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anyone installed a sea-toilet?

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Chattinglil says:

Ok, so I am still getting used to having downsized to the Achilles, but I spent my first night aboard on Monday. I REALLY missed not having a toilet!! I know, the cold and snow probably put me off making the trip to the marina facilities, but even on a sunny day I just can't see myself being happy to use a portipoti. Perhaps I am just being a prima donna.

Anyway, it did occur to me that maybe I could take out the bunks in the forepeak and install a sea-toilet and use the rest of the space for stowage. After all, there is never going to be more than 2 of us staying on board and we can sleep in the quarter berths.

Is this a really dumb idea?
5:57AM, 23 January 2013 PDT (permalink)

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blueachilles says:

We looked at this a while ago. We sleep in the forepeak, so we wanted to keep the bunks. Blue has the original bucket with a lid between the bunks.

This works for us, apart from having to wake each other up to use it.

We looked quite hard for a sea toilet that would fit the current toilet space, without much success; we also tried to find a portapotti that would fit, but they are all too deep.

Removing the bunks altogether would be a solution, but on a cold night huddling together in the forepeak has its advantages!

There are Achilles with seatoilets in the forepeak, and someone will no doubt direct you to some photos in due course; I know Ron's "Merlin" has one.

Rod
79 months ago (permalink)

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Super Snoopy 050 says:

Snoopy (463) had a sea toilet for many years but we never used it in earnest. Why? Because it's not the most elegant thing to do - perched on porcelain looking down the cabin, albeit with a curtain available to keep your modesty. In addition, if you are approaching six feet, you have to open the fore hatch and stick your head out - and then everyone knows what you are doing. We tended to use the good old bucket which was also good for bailing, swilling the decks and cleaning the spuds. We removed the sea toilet during one of the refits. I have found a photo which I'll post.
79 months ago (permalink)

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pjbharrison says:

www.flickr.com/photos/35044698@N05/7444101610/in/photostream

You can just see the porta potti in this photo. The panel that goes over it is the table between the 2 lockers with the pots on it in the photo!
I got it in Aldi, €35, and its low enough to fit under the infill between the bunks.
Its made by Thetford and the model is "Mobil toilet eng"
Never used it myself but daughters found it a godsend. Didn't like the idea of holes in the hull and all the problems associated with seatoilets. Its easy to remove and empty bottom cartridge. The seals are very good and there are no odours at all.
79 months ago (permalink)

busy home [deleted] says:

Chille has an original fitted toilet ,, totally usless.. Much to far foreward.
Goskar has a chemical one not a porta... It s shorter and fits usable , just .. No smells
Snow goose had a new tetford ,, just fitted when I got her ..
Merlin has an original ..
Point to remember ,, Toilet £100 Fittings £ 100 .. Bronze seacocks
White pipe syphon break ETC ETC -
I put a new one in Carrie ..
79 months ago (permalink)

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Amrum 9171Y says:

www.flickr.com/photos/32058683@N02/3220971770/in/photostream
This is the one on Snifter from my photo stream
79 months ago (permalink)

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NormanKlipspringer is a group administrator NormanKlipspringer says:

I have removed the sea toilet from Klipspringer. The seacocks failed and they are too expensive to replace. I have bought a portable toilet from Palm Springs (10 litre version) which fits in the same space (29.5cms ht). They were available from Amazon, but I see that they have sold out - cost less than £40. Big advantage is that since there are two compartments, upto 10 flushes cvan be made without emptying which makes it useable inside harbours and marinas which a sea toilet would not be. Sometimes the loos are a fair distant from the boat.
I am 6ft 2" and over 18st and find that I can use the toilet in its forward position - yes you have to lean forward so that your head is under the hatch but I have not found it a problem. If it is then of course with a portable toilet you can move it to a more comfortable position.The old sea toilet from Klipspringer could be yours if wanted and you are either prepared to pick it up or pay postage. I cannot guarantee that it is working. You can see the toilet in situ in the following photograph www.flickr.com/photos/achilles24/4881641251/in/set-721576.... Good luck.
Norman
79 months ago (permalink)

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Mike A1 says:

Amare has a sea toilet between the forward berths which I think is the same model as in Norman's picture - an SL400. It works fine when needed but there isn't a lot of room to manoeuvre so it's worth doing a "dry run" before deciding to fit one.
Mike
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Slycat777 says:

There's also a lot to be said for:

1. Buy a bucket
2. Buy a toilet set from a regular toilet
3. Scoop water in bucket put toilet seat on top

Depends what kind of company you keep of course!
79 months ago (permalink)

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Chattinglil says:

thanks everyone. I think my problem is that I have become a pampered prima donna and I have never actually used a portapotty before! The idea of it gives me the heebyjeebies. I'd be happier just using a bucket. The problem this week was that I was in St Katherines, so couldn't use use a bucket... my exposed cockpit is in direct view of about 100 residential flats and the walk way with a constant stream of commuters :-) It will be a different prospect entirely when at anchor in a quiet creek ...
79 months ago (permalink)

busy home [deleted] says:

I happen to have a moulding which fits into the first space in the forecabin to accept a porta potty .... Stops it moving about,, Pukka job .. Available
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Skykomish E29 says:

We managed to find a porta poti that fitted the space in an Achilles, just! but headroom is always going to be an issue, we never used ours and I am afraid to say the black builder's bucket was the most successful option used in the centre of the main cabin then discreetly slipped over the side.. By the way a useful way to gauge the speed of current as the contents depart! Even my wife was happy with this arrangement.
Another issue with the POrta Potti can be the emptying of the tank. Not the most pleasant item to be seen wheeling along the pontoon in those natty trolleys.
We have a sea toilet on Skykomish and even with her much larger size the qualities of a contortionist are needed to do the works
Of course being a guy I can get by using a cut down 4 pint milk carton.
for "number 1's"
79 months ago (permalink)

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Daddsie says:

I am lucky, constipation sets in for three days at sea.

If you are day sailing, then jump over the side hang on and grit your teeth.

If not, a piece of 4 X 2 across the lockers into a bucket. 6 x 2 if of a delicate nature.

We are sailing boats of the 70's, the 1870's that is
79 months ago (permalink)

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pjbharrison says:

Take the outboard out of the well.........
79 months ago (permalink)

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BERT A24 says:

Palm Springs 20 Litre Portable Toilet . £44.99 and is 15.5 inches high.
Gets good reviews. Steer clear of the kampa portaflush as apparently it is rubbish.
79 months ago (permalink)

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Vidwatts says:

There's the TravelJohn range of products designed for campers which provide an alternative, though expensive compared to a bucket.
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NormanKlipspringer is a group administrator NormanKlipspringer says:

The Palm Springs 20 litre is too high you need the 10 Litre as I suggested above which is 29.5cms and will fit.
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Amrum 9171Y says:

My father described to me once how Uffa Fox managed when he sailed with him. Uffa would put a loo roll on a loop of rope round his neck, step over the pushpit, and crouch down over the transom, all the while holding a conversation with the helm and whichever other crew members were in the cockpit! I'm not sure if it cleared the cockpit quickly!! Not sure how well it worked in a big following sea!
79 months ago (permalink)

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