Slycat777 10:44am, 4 July 2012
Managed to lose my spinny halyard down the mast the other day.

Really cant face taking the mast down again so considering scaling the mast. I can get to within a few feet of the spinny box with my regular ladders so only need hoisted the last few feet.

I assume the Achilles (mast/cabin roof) can take the strain of a lightweight (10 stone) being hoisted up?
pjbharrison Posted 6 years ago. Edited by pjbharrison (member) 6 years ago
Got any kids?
Might be in Ballycastle on Friday afternoon.
Slycat777 6 years ago
Hmm Finn is 3.... ;)

Would be no problem getting a hoist up, just wondering if the boat would be happy with the load.
NormanKlipspringer 6 years ago
I have seen many go up the mast much heavier than 10st. I have been up to the spreader on a ladder and I am close on 19st. In all cases make sure you have double protection. If on ladder then still have harness and strong halyard. If in bosuns chair then also have harness on another halyard. I don't think there is any problem about the mast, but the quality of the rigging is very much up to you. When was the standing rigging replaced and what is the condition of the halyards. Also any winch that you are using should be up to it. Why would the deck be an issue, after all you walk on it all the time with no problems? N B harness built into life jackets are not designed to hold your weight, just to stop you falling overboard.
Slycat777 6 years ago
Was just assuming the main points of strain are:

Main halyard block at top of mast
Section of deck that mast sits on

I've had my house ladders at full extension and been up the mast on those but I'm still 4 ft short of the spinny block! Hence the need for a bit of a winch up.
Skykomish E29 6 years ago
When you consider the forces put through the mast foot when under sail I would imagine that 10 stone will not be too much of an issue, as Norman says make sure that the halyards are in good condition. I have to say that when Linda went up our mast she had no problem and it was fairly easy to hoist her up, I was a little concerned however when it dawned on me that the winch is only held onto the mast by 8 large pop rivets, by that time she was up on the cross trees.
Be warned a proper bosuns chair type harness is quite dear (around £50) however once you have it you have got iit for all those other jobs.
NormanKlipspringer 6 years ago
The halyards at the top of the mast for main, genoa and spinnaker, if standard all go up and over onto the mast and down inside so even if the block were to fail the halyard cannot come down unless it breaks. The compressive loads on the deck at the mast step are very large. Just working out the static loads from the shrouds when set up for racing at 20% of breaking strain, amounts to over 2681kgs. When sailing this could easily be exceeded by a considerable amount. Your 10st (64kgs) is small when compared to this. To bear these loads the deck needs to be in good condition (no water penetration ino the balsa core and the supporting beam underneath also needs to be good with no rot, and the same applies to the main bulkhead which supports this beam.
Hope this helps.
MickLock 6 years ago
only recently came across your question - I've been up the mast of Emily II twice this year in a bosuns chair with no problems. I used the Main halyard led to a coach roof winch, and used the Spinnaker halyard as a safety line. I'm about 9 1/2st and my 17yr old son was quite capable of working the winch without too much effort. The mast on the Achilles is not very tall, but be aware anyone stepping onto the side deck heels the boat, and this is massively amplified if you're anywhere near the top.

(both times having lost the Gib halyard when the snap shackle opened due to the twisting force created when unfurling).
jendave1 6 years ago
Climbed up the halyard on Shurig using a prussian loop more than once, 13 stone, no problems.
seabird192 6 years ago
Agree with many of the comments already made. Was enjoying a birds eye view of her only last week, though before my lofty adventure, I was given the advice to climb up, rather than be hoisted - the weight is then taken up by the winch operator. Seemed to work for me and the winchwoman got a better deal,
Two things I would suggest
1. Same as Mick, prepare all down below to stay put and not wander around on deck whilst you are aloft. The added sway to the already akward position can be an arse.
2. Don't forget to use lanyards. As one is at the mercy of the winch operator, dropping the pliers on their head is a bad idea.
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