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Over the back or in the well?

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rothwell_neil says:

Hopefully this is not too thorny an issue but I would like to get some views on where to put the engine.

Presently Emily has a Honda 5HP 4 stroke with charging socket. this is a legacy of the old Hurley and a nice motor. The charger is always good as when the solar panel hasn't worked hard enough (I live in the North you know!) you can always get some juice for electrics. I am happy with the motor and have no desire and certainly not the patience to install an inboard, although I am a fan of inboards.

The question I have is what is the real advantage of the well over hanging it on the back with a winch to pull it out of the water? In the well it gives prop wash over the rudder in forward, but surely over the back you get some wash in reverse which may be even better? In the well it gets in the way of the feet and takes a bit off your speed. I guess that in a tight manouver it is easier to reach and turn in the well and it also looks nicer from the side as it looks like a bigger boat with no outbaord. Also I guess there is less chance of theft as it is not obvious. A decent lock should help this.

In summary how do people feel about well versus bracket on the back and if you have gone the bracket way and recommend it any preferences for a bracket type and where to source one?
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Skykomish E29 says:

Hi and welcome.
I think you will find an overwhelming support for the well option, for the very reason that that is where the outboard is designed to go. The prop is located in the correct position to deliver efficient power across the rudder, and the obvious advantage is that you do not have to climb onto the stern deck to use the outboard. I know many have fitted outboards to the stern but this is usually as a back up for the inboard, or they have converted from inboard to outboard and this is by far the easiest option.
I agree that in reverse an Achilles is not the most responsive beast to rudder control under power, but this can be overcome by turning the outboard in the well to act as a stern thruster.
Speaking as one who through necessity has to leave the outboard in situ I find the cockpit well a godsend when it comes to manouvering around the Marina as you have the combined rudder steerage and engine control at hand this would not be anywhere near as easy if it was mounted on the stern.
Love to see some pictures of your boat some time.
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busy home [deleted] says:

The big advantage of the well is that the motor does not come out of the water when its rough ..This is a really important issue as you only get 1/2 power when its really need it.
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Skykomish E29 says:

Nice pictures of Goskar Ron!
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NormanKlipspringer is a group administrator NormanKlipspringer says:

Neil,
I agree with Malcolm and Ron, that is unless inboard is an option. I think the best configuration is inboard with auxiliary on the transom - but then I would say that wouldn't I. Outboard on transom is more difficult to use but ok for ocassional use and much better for reversing in confined spaces, which is where I tend to use it.. I have not had problems with the OB prop coming out of the water but I then I am probably using the inboard in those sort of conditions. Having inboard means cockpit is uncluttered. If you don't already have a well then 'on the transom' must seem like an easy option. Not sure about the relative problems and costs of creating a well from scratch and fitting an inboard.
Norman
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Skykomish E29 says:

mm I believe Snoopy can enlighten us on that one, but I believe it is more than the market value of the boat by the time you have finished, from what he implies in his excellant narrative about fitting an inboard
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Super Snoopy 050 says:

I purpously didn't keep track of the expenditure as I'm sure it would have been more than the boat was originally worth. Two and a half grand for a new Beta 10; about five hundred for the sterngear and prop; several hundred for the exhaust tubing and waterlock, silencer and gooseneck. The bits and pieces added up over the eighteen months I took to do the job. That being said as an exercise it was satisfying, Snoopy now has an engine that will last the life of the hull, I'm no longer gassed every time that I start the engine and I have as much quiet power as I need. I've also been given a calorifier so may be fitting a hot water system ...... but that's for another day.
I am glad that I have installed the inboard and would probably do it half the time knowing what I leaned during the process.
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Skykomish E29 says:

Oh Right .. Ok chaps Snoopy has just volunteered to fit inboard engines to the entire Achilles Fleet!!!..........
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