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myblackboxrocks PRO 11:19am, 21 November 2008
Hi everyone, I'm new to the group but have been messing around with bushcraft skills for years, mostly to make longer backpacking trips more comfy.

My question is - for years all I've used is a trusty opinel number 8 pocket folder as my knife. It's light, cheap and easy to carry without needing a sheath etc... However, I'm thinking of getting a fixed blade and something a bit more heavy duty like a fallkniven nl4 frej...

What knives do you use for common tasks and would you justify the weight of a bigger knife on a backpacking trip?

Thanks for any advice,

Sam
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Howling Dingo Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Howling Dingo (admin) 10 years ago
Why not look at getting a forst clipper it's amazing vale for the money. It's light weight,good thing if you carrying it for a long time amazing value for money a bit like a opinel.You can do all sorts stuff with that cheap little knife food prep wood carving I use mine in the garden a lot.

I have not used the fallkniven It looks like a good knife but costs a lot more and the weight will be a lot more.What if that canoe of yours overturn and you lose it?
myblackboxrocks PRO 10 years ago
: ozhaggishead - thanks for the advice, you're right that is a BIG difference in price. Just always admired the stacked leather handles on Scandinavian knives - probably just get something like you suggested for more common use though.
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Howling Dingo 10 years ago
Have a look at this guys shop on ebay I got a few things from him.......http://stores.ebay.com/BENS-BACKWOODS_W0QQfrsrcZ1QQfsubZ2QQtZkm
damp bead [deleted] 10 years ago
I would hate to go very far into the woods without my K-BAR. I've had it for over 20 yrs. It has seen duty in some of the worst conditions and performed flawlessly. I've skinned dinner, made shelters, chopped fire wood, plus many other tasks. It just never fails me. It's about the best 20 bucks I ever spent!!!

BWM
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Sespe! 10 years ago
I got my knife for 100 bucks. That is a lot to me but I think that it was worth it. You dont need to spend that much money to get a good knife though. But I keep mine with me at all times and use it for a bunch of stuff. Its The blade is about an inch longer then my middle finger. I also have a big knife but I find its just a pain in the ass to use. I never do use it. Keep the size small while knife shopping but dont make it to small.


Sespe
I've come to like 3-5" blades for small fixed blades, but never leave home without one of my modified 12" machetes.

I don't like the clipper, as the handle just doesn't do it for me, but they offer several others that are great, and all go for around the same price.

The F1 is fantastic, but starts to get pricey. Jeff Randall's RC-3 and RC-4 are a little better in price and of the same quality. Lord, there are bunches, but yes- if you are new to fixed blades Mora and Frosts and a fine place to start. or you could just go to your local flea market, and modify your own.

I have a couple of articles here:

briarpatchoutdoors.educationforthesoul.com/

if you want to check them out. Some of the information may be helpful and some may be old hat. Some may not even be agreeable to how you feel, but such is life! I have an F1 article submitted and should be posted up soon, as well.

This is fun.

KAW.
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Howling Dingo 10 years ago
Cool link!Liked the tutorial were you modify the old butchers knife into a bushcraft knife,makes a lot of sense.
RockScout PRO 10 years ago
Knives by mora are in the $20 dollar range and are made of excellent steel. I recommend them. A falkniven is VERY nice, but for that price you could have a custom or a whole selection of mora type blades.

I believe a camping knife shouldn't be a chopper or pryer, but a thin, light stainless blade, with a huge scandanavian grind (bevel) for ease of sharpening. The sheath is just as important as the blade. I like a sheath that fits in the tool pocket of my carharts and holds the blade in via friction. -no straps or flaps.

Carving triggers, taking apart animals, skinning, cutting cordage, harvesting and preparing plants are what I want my camping knife to excel at. Like Keith above- I prefer a 3-5 incher. I'd leave the chopping to a chopping tool like a small axe, kukri, or machete. I very very rarely have the occasion to chop things though. I prefer a hacksaw if I'm going to be doing heavy duty woodcrafting.
orionz51 9 years ago
cant go wrong with frost mora knives i have several and they are at great prices.
British Red 9 years ago
I have a number of mora and clippers. Love them.

The NL4 is a a heavy and somewhat "clunky" knife but far, far better than the F1 which many like but I truly dislike (to the point of giving my evaluation one away as I couldn't bear to accept money for such a bad knife).

I notice someone else here likes it.

That shows one thing - its a very personal choice. I like slim, accurate blades - zero ground and drop pointed. Others like thick heavy choppers (I use an axe in that space or a purpose built chopper).

A lot of what makes a "good" knife is the purpose you intend to put it to. The convex grind of a Falkie is optimised for chopping. A flat ground knife (like a mora) is optimsed for slicing, carving and push cuts.

Both work - but are optimised differently.

Red
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Howling Dingo 9 years ago
Just found the frost website... www.swedishknives.com/ ...I have three of there knifes and must confess to being a bit of a fan.
Timbo37 9 years ago
I must admit I prefer a bigger more powerful general purpose knife myself. Over the past four years I've taught myself to make knives so I have got about 50 different ones to choose from.
Lawheadonflickr 9 years ago
Wholly agree with Red's penultimate paragraph above & for that reason I've a couple of moras & clippers & for day to day "bang it & break it" functionality they can't be beaten for the money. I tend to carry 2 or 3 knives when I go camping.

1) a frosts mora clipper or a 740/760, used for anything from food prep to elementary whittling. These have been around for a good long while & I understand these are the knives bushcraft schools tend to hand out to course participants;

2) my Fallkniven TK4 folding knife as its gorgeous, handmade, light, extremely sharp, retains its edge well & UK legal without needing justification to the boys in blue (www.fallkniven.com/bilder/stora/tk4-sky.jpg) . Perhaps a lot to pay for an everyday carry knife however at around £100;

3) a Woodlore/ Ray Mears style knife hand made to my spec by Stephen Cox at www.swc-handmade-knives.com in Kent. I'm no knife afficionado or collector - I just appreciate well-designed and functional objects - but I have to say I've found his knives and leatherwork are both of superb quality. The quality is superb but has a price to match - mine set me back around £300 (but would have been cheaper without all the bells and whisltes). This is the knife I enjoy most but use least because of the cost.

If you've used an Opinel no. 8 happily for years, a bespoke bushcrafter would probably be an extreme leap. For under a tenner you could grab a Frosts Mora 760 (stainless steel) or 740 (carbon steel) or a clipper & have a workhorse of a knife that would last for years with the right sharpening stone & wouldn't cause any sleepless nights if you lost it. Better jump fast though as I believe production of the 740 & 760 ended last year & stocks are disappearing.
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kmakinen 9 years ago
If you like look of that fällkniven knife, but don´t want to pay that much finnish brand Iisakki Järvenpää have quite nice leather handled knives: models 3445, 3447 and 3449

www.iisakkijarvenpaa.fi/prod02.htm
resolute twist [deleted] 9 years ago
Oh one of my fav subjects to talk about - knives.
I have been a confirmed nut about knives for nearly all my lifetime. I carry regularly a fixed blade with blade length about 4inches. When I head into the woods, I up that to a model by DHRussell/Grohmann of Nova Scotia, Canada.
I have nothing against the "scandinavian knives", I just want have a full-tang. Hence my love affair with the Boat knife and Survival model by DHRussell in carbonsteel.
Jean&Vic PRO 9 years ago
knives are a very fun subject, and always bring forth a variety of enthusiastic responses. I have a preference for my buck knife, and wear it every where. but I think, and this is something I have been given correction on, the need for the knife should reflect in why you carry it. where I live, I use my knife no less that 8-10 times a day. I am also capable of throwing it and sticking things I throw at within 35-50 feet with fair consistency. I also like to use other knives for other reasons, and have them just for such (this does include throwing, filleting, cutting twine, collecting herbs, and processing game I am fast enough or smart enough to catch). so when asked what knife would be preferred for a long trip to the woods, vs. a short one of a day or less, my answer may vary. It is also different in some other places that will affect what you can and cannot carry, such as certain counties will stop you if you are carrying a knife and it is partially concealed (still visible, but not clearly visible just ask, there is a story here). Other places make allowances for people to carry anything up to a 12 inch blade (which is more than I like to carry, as it tends to draw too much attention to myself). That being said, I have to confess I like the blades made from stock reduction that I have seen over the years, and a few very pretty knives I have seen that were hand forged (some to die for Damascus steel, and a couple of others with some very fine work etched into the blades were so eye catching, and of course the price tag usually heart stopping).
I guess summing it up, look at what you need it for, and then find the knife that is best suited to what you are going to do with it. do what has been done here and ask around and find the best you can, for the money you have to spend on it. and remember if your life depends on this blade surviving, the warrantee given will not save you if it breaks when you most need it.
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