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zenera 11:53pm, 16 October 2004
Do blurry photographs emulate the motion in film and how we really see?
jurvetson PRO 14 years ago
Sometimes, after few glasses of wine.
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zenera 14 years ago
and sometimes even without!
Guerito 13 years ago
Thanks for the invitation!
cjonthehudson 13 years ago
Thanks for the invite. My blurs are usually because I just refuse to use flash . . . it may be the objects moving, or it may be my handheld skills, since I'm perfectly willing to handheld below 1/8 if that's what it takes to get the shot. Blurring ensues.
mightymis 13 years ago
thanks for inviting me!
abiding swim [deleted] 13 years ago
Thanks for the invite, I´ll keep my shutter open longer for this one
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zenera 13 years ago
Thank you all for joining, do post to the "Tell your stories" topic too!
*ivo* PRO 13 years ago
Thanks for the invite zenera! I just love blurvision. To me a world in total focus is not interesting at all and neither is an image.
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zenera 13 years ago
...yes iv0, you are one of the people who make the world more interesting, thank you for being here!
elite channel [deleted] 13 years ago
thanks for the invitation, zenera. A very fascinating theme. Sometimes I love fotos just for the blurry effect, bringing motions or something strange or magic into it.
Whatknot PRO 13 years ago
photographic classwork always taught me to focus, depth of field etc. for emphasis but lately a blured image uncovers a view that is unfocused in its focus ... perhaps it is my aging eyes and the reality of things looking the way I see them unaided
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zenera 13 years ago
Thanks for joining:)

Blurry pictures lure one into their magic dimension...
Thanks zenera for your invitation!
cudmore 13 years ago
The abstract expressionist filmmaker Stan Brackage was obsessed with this idea. In an interview circa the 1960's, he said he was trying to represent the world as we really see it. So yes, Stan (and I) thought so.
rick_deckard 13 years ago
i think that sometimes blurry photo represent in a better way the image we have in our mind rather than the real "still" image

thanks zenera for your invitation :)
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zenera 13 years ago
Yes rick and cudmore exactly!
naftalina007 13 years ago
Hi guys and thanks for the invite LIFE AS A HAINT! You have selected the right group for me - prefer my blurry ones over the 'perfect' pics... they just seem to have more soul, conveying what i want to express far better
Sparrows' Friend PRO 13 years ago
Hi y'all, and thanks Z
Thank you for invitation, zenera!
I should have known this group earlier...

When I use manual camera, some of them become blurry image.
The reason is manual,old(older than my age) and no flush(actually, I lost my camera's strobe...that cause me to use natural light or room's light).
And I also took photo, blurry on purpuse...the objective is stable and I move and take photo with slow shutter.

I was hesitate to put them on my website though I like blurry image personaly. But I will try to upload some of them next month. Unfortunately, my upload limit was already over this month. I am a beginner of Flickr and I didn't know how many time I can uproad in one month (only one week, the limit already was over...).
So, I will enjoy to see everyone's nice blurry image!
few partner [deleted]
Well here it is, hope you like it. more to come.
rfin 13 years ago
Thanks for helping me see the beauty value in what I've sometimes thought were flaws, both photographic and otherwise.
burwell 13 years ago
Well...(and I accept your invitation..thankyou)as we understand images in the brain whether perfect or otherwise does our brain care about the technical niceties..I don`t think so, What I like is probably conditioned by my life`s experiences...and I like a lot of what I see on here.
alfarman 13 years ago
thanks for the invite zenera....
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zenera 13 years ago
Thank so much for joining, it is a great pity that I and I guess some of you, have discarded pictures because we thought they would be scorned for thier blurriness.

There is beauty and mystery in so many pictures that turn out like that, that can't be manufactured easily. Having said that, since creating this group I have made efforts to conciously get a "blurry image", it's fun and quite exhilirating when it works!
eager nest [deleted] 13 years ago
To me, timing it's the key, the photo with blurry shot is like opening a hole to peak into TIME through the forzen moment, it moves all the time after all.
mrselsmore PRO 13 years ago
Thanks for the invite zenera. I've been thinking about those images that don't 'make the grade' and why they don't. I now see the beauty in those which are blurry.
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greentea flute 13 years ago
we see in a blur until we stop and stare, it is only becuase of the limitation of out media that we look at sharp focused pictures, one day all we will see is blur visoines
My opinion is that the blur effect creates an opportunity to really "see" the moment.

I suggest there is a parallel / dialogue here with the Impressionists whom concentrated on the general impression produced by a scene or object and the use of unmixed primary colors and small strokes to simulate actual reflected light - perhaps influenced by the emergence of photography in that era. The quote that follows is from www.wliw.org/productions/french.html - 2005.06.05

"Coming on the heels of the advent of black and white photography in the late 1800s, these artists had to compete with images even the realistic masters of the period could not render as accurately. With Impressionism ­ whether in paintings or sculptures ­ they sought to achieve something a camera could not create ­ a subjective view, or an impression. ")

Somehow by the denial of the "sharp details" you are forced to fill them in - in your mind's eye - to reconstruct the image. Maybe it's just atmosphere or mood, but somehow I feel more engaged in viewing the image. I have to "imagine more"...

For the motion blurs or long exposures /subject blurs - I like the effect of being reminded of the "myth of the instant". For me a photo is only a (particular) slice of a continuum. For me, it heightens my awareness of the (apparent) photographic instant.

(Thinking about the Impressionists) Lately, I've been interested in taking digital pinholes of which mine are lensless images that have an inherent "blur" because of the imperfect pinhole (and the electronics I suppose) - I don't really have any control on the blur. I liken the outcome to more like "RAW impressions" with certain irony intended.

Here's a link to my collection on flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/mniebuhr/sets/374811/
All motion created by living things has intent behind it, and stripping everything else away an interesting insight into that intent for me. I find the motion of humans engaged in somewhat focused activities (walking, brushing their teeth, talking, etc.) to be particularly revealing as it [somewhat non-traditionally] tells a lot about the subject's personality in a different, but no less expressive, way than traditional portraits.

mniebuhr, I completely agree: "instantaneous" captures are a myth. Even if you're shooting at 1/4000th, it's still a slice of time that has a duration in which a lot can happen. An incomprehensible amount of activity can happen in that amount of time... the total distance that people have moved is probably hundreds of miles. Billions of chemical interactions can happen in a very small amount of material. Every photon that hasn't been absorbed has travelled over 74,948 meters while the ones that have been have altered the energy of hundreds of quintillions of atoms!

There is no wrong way to divide time, only different ways.
brianjinx PRO 13 years ago
one of my favorite ways to shoot...
long exposures handheld,
dragging the shutter.
oh yeah!
thanks.
nicholai - you articulate alot of the things I think make up the "instantaneous myth" - what amazes me is how a particular photo can become such a powerful recording of a moment - so much so that all other moments around it are forgotten so to speak, as the selected moment takes over and becomes a sort of memory. The blur seems to me to negate a bit of that specificity - and invites imagination back. For me it's a little like the difference between looking back at a photo and remembering and seeing an image from memory and remembering...
nicolai_g 13 years ago
I guess we're filling in each other's blanks here, because "For me it's a little like the difference between looking back at a photo and remembering and seeing an image from memory and remembering..." is just perfect. Well said!
wit PRO 13 years ago
Whenever we look out at things its not as a camera views. Our focus shifts along with our attention (and occasional along with our state of inebriation or level of consciousness!) Blur can capture our sense of failure to freeze the moving moment but also out fuzzy relaxed state of the after glow of a plesant glass of wine and occasionally the sense of just catching sight of something as or vision skims the surface but fails to hook on to the glistening fish before it sinks back out of sight.
*Ariel* PRO 13 years ago
Pardon the pun, but a blurred image forces us to focus on information our brains are usually too busy processing and deleting.

A blurred still is unlike motion pictures, where our brains are kept busy deleting "blur" from the visuals and telling us "movement" instead.

A blurred still is unlike a frozen shot, in that a frozen shot allows our brains to explore a virtual reality; nothing that moves is so focussed when we observe with our eyes. Hence, perhaps, our fascination with photos.

A blurred shot is in between the frozen and the action; it's the moment Alice goes through the looking glass. It's telling us that we can't completely trust our eyes or our brains.

The ultimate joy of blurred images is how we literally have to be open-minded about what we see.

But that may also just be my brain working overtime. Drinks, anyone ?
Thanx for the invitation! Being a freak of control myself, I struggle to have my shots in perfect focus and clarity... This group is both, a challenge, and far more than that, one more attempt to learn to leave and let go :)
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