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Hambone Lewinski 6:32pm, 14 November 2008
This thought was spurred by an absurd thread on photo.net.
photo.net/film-and-processing-forum/00ROOo

This is possibly the longest thread in P.N history, and as usual it has devolved into the most asinine type of conversation -- discussing minutia such as the analog nature of grain, comparing anecdotal images (look, this shot was done on film and it looks GREAT!), general bickering and name-calling.

What I wonder is: who cares?

Clearly, people who use digital cameras sometimes take nice pictures with them and sometimes take awful pictures with them.

Clearly, people who use film cameras sometimes take nice pictures with them and sometimes take awful pictures with them.

Film photographers have something to gain by convincing more people to buy film because this helps guarantee that their media continues on. However, it takes two to tango... and film doesn't threaten digital at all.

So why can't people just be happy that other people are choosing the media that they prefer and be done with it? Is it simply petty "my thing is better than your thing"?

Jason
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Because people like to bicker.
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pH foto 10 years ago
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maxcaven 10 years ago
I find it happens when someone of the other preferred format (of anything, film/digital, nikon/pentax/canon/whathaveyou) makes a snarky comment about 'your' preferred format. It sets people off, when it really doesn't need to happen.
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
I am offended by "whathaveyou". I love my "whathaveyou". Just kidding.

Because some people like to be close minded, other have to always be right, some like to argue. It's all a headache I say.
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maxcaven 10 years ago
I came really close to including sony, but I figured having pentax was silly enough...




:-)
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
"but I figured having pentax was silly enough"

BZZZZT. You've been tazed. Now go sit in the corner until you're sorry.

Jason
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Jason, you look at it like you are comparing an image taken with film to a completely different image taken digitally -- Yes, who really cares in this case. The debate is which will give you more options and better results if you take each of exactly the same thing.

Personally, I have done these tests using MY system of scanning and printing and found that the results are surprizingly similar, even looking at large format (though I still have to test large prints where the film is printed totally in a chemical process.)
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
I think they are BOTH FUN! : )
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
"I have done these tests using MY system of scanning and printing and found that the results are surprizingly similar, even looking at large format"

That is the big result that's important to this debate. The difference is negligible. At that point it's a matter of discussing minutia, which (I think) makes people lose focus on the important stuff. Like, what makes great photos great.

I tend to think that it has everything to do with people needing to feel like their chosen way of doing a thing is the BEST way. Also, as Shawn put it, people like to bicker :-).

But, that's my opinion.

Jason
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
jason- you're starting another "which is better debate" just by opening this thread.

end it. end it now. : )
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JustinSinks Posted 10 years ago. Edited by JustinSinks (admin) 10 years ago
I myself think Nintendo Wii is the best. Though sometimes I wish I had an Xbox or PS3 so I could interact with friends that I have not seen in a long time... But Wii is by far the best. The rest can eat a bag of....
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
I disagree, Nintendo wii is fun, but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever......
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
"jason- you're starting another "which is better debate" just by opening this thread."

There hasn't been a problem so far. And if there is, I'll just taze Max again.

Also, Legend of Zelda FTW!

Jason
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manley.josh 10 years ago

Because people like to bicker.


Shawn, I disagree people don't like to bicker.
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JustinSinks 10 years ago
I have donkey Kong on my wii, so there! Well, Donkey Kong Country, I could have the original DK, but I havnt got around to downloading it yet.

What would the world be without Nintendo? Zelda, DK, Metroid, Mario!
brandonransom 10 years ago
My GM is way better than any of your foreign cars!
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maxcaven Posted 10 years ago. Edited by maxcaven (moderator) 10 years ago
Chevy no ford.


but you can't make that argument about cars anymore anyway, all cars are Frankenstein, of parts from all over the place. even the 'domestic' cars.


not to debate btw. lol I know that post was in good taste
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Bacon is better than ham!

Jason
whitejade85 10 years ago
mmmm bacon
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Atari
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
Pogs.
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
ms. pac man!!!!!!
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maxcaven 10 years ago
diet doctor pepper.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
"Pogs."

Pogs wins. Nate gets to start the next thread.

Jason
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manley.josh 10 years ago
OK Soda??
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Randall Cottrell 10 years ago
RC Cola
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JustinSinks 10 years ago
A L8 1 is by far the best soda!
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
Josh are you kidding me?! I thought I imagined OK Soda as a kid, because no one else remembers it.......

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Soda

Josh wins.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
I'm pretty sure OK Soda was just canned "swamp water". You know, when you mixed soda from every nozzle at the restaurant or gas station?

Jason
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
I heard rumors of leather boot + bald eagle.

Or maybe that was a secret hot dog recipe..........?
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Soylent Green in a can!
It's people!
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
people????? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
Golden Grahams S'mores Cereal. any takers?
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
No. Life Cereal "Where's Waldo" Edition for me.
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Dude, Cinnamon LIFE is the best!!
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Sorry, but Grape Nuts is beer turned in to cereal.

Jason
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JustinSinks 10 years ago
The best is a little bit of Jack in the morning. Yum!
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
I know I missed it by a couple of years, but anyone play "Crazy Bones"?

I bet Randy did.
whitejade85 10 years ago
"Sorry, but Grape Nuts is beer turned in to cereal"

could there be any better reason to eat grape nuts ???
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
Beer = Porkchop in a can
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Ever eat a pine tree? Some parts are edible.
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
My sister claims that some kid ate part of a Nintendo during her math class.......
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I have consumed pine trees via Gin and Juice.........LOL

I have heard of pine needle tea, I believe Bear Grylls whipped some up on man vs. Wild.
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Look up Euell Gibbons, if you will.
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I will.
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I did, interesting stuff.
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manley.josh 10 years ago
Pine needles and Juice...wasn't that a song once??
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
sippin' on gin and juice. la da dee da
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HBRstudios Posted 10 years ago. Edited by HBRstudios (admin) 10 years ago
Were any of you alive in the mid-70s???? Grape Nuts.........Euell Gibbons.......... Ever eat a pine tree?????

Oh, I give up.
whitejade85 10 years ago
Pine needle tea is an excellent source of vitamin C.

In case you get lost in the woods and are worried about rickets.
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Randall Cottrell 10 years ago
hahaha nate i did play crazy bones
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Mid-70s? I had Grape Nuts for breakfast today. I told you -- it's beer made into food. A most holy feast.

What I've been wondering is, what would I get if I poured beer ON my Grape Nuts? I tremble with anticipation.

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tina_p0608 10 years ago
The lyrics are "rollin' down the streets, smoking endo, sippin' on Gin and Juice, laid back with my mind on my money and my money on my mind"

Just to clarify that.
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N. Lindstrom Photo Posted 10 years ago. Edited by N. Lindstrom Photo (admin) 10 years ago
Randall-

1) Do you still have them?

If answer to #1 is yes please continue to #2. If the answer to #1 is no, your may move on to the next post.

2) How much do you want for them?
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Randall Cottrell 10 years ago
they may be at my parent's house...i will check today
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
In the 1960's, NASA experimented with Jackie Gleason punching people in to space.....
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
One of these days, Alice...

Nuthin' like some good domestic violence humor!

Jason
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