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Shana Jo/A Mother's Soul 7:08pm, 24 September 2008
Can I sell "used" offical versions of software? I mean, I don't see why not, but I am wondering if the license will work for someone else if I registered with it?
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
The idea that you can sell stuff that you've purchased is called the Doctrine of First Sale.

The jury's still out on computer software -- look at the section of the wikipedia article on that topic.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-sale_doctrine

Jason
brandonransom Posted 10 years ago. Edited by brandonransom (member) 10 years ago
I'm pretty sure it's legal, so long as you understand that once you sell your license, you technically have to uninstall the program. Also, the license should transfer to someone else just fine, so long as you don't try and download updates on the same license that someone else is. This of course depends on the software manufacturer, but you should be pretty safe.

EDIT: I posted this before I refreshed and saw Jason's response. I suppose he's right, but it doesn't really explain the existence of video game resale shops. (Seeing as video games are technically software.)
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
"I suppose he's right, but it doesn't really explain the existence of video game resale shops."

I think that the legal question only applies to computer software. You don't agree to a EULA with video games.

Jason
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Hmmm. Not sure what to do then. I am going to have two copies of Adobe Elements 6 and I really don't need two copies.
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Akatzmarkphotography 10 years ago
Why do you have 2? sell I on ebay...
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JustinSinks 10 years ago
That would be fine. Nothing to worry about. People sell software all the time.
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I have one that I bought a few months ago, but I am also getting it for free on my new computer.

I'll offer it up here and if no one wants it I'll put it up on eBay.
brandonransom 10 years ago
What platform is it for?
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Windows.
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
how much are you asking? i'm interested.
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$40. I think it is selling for $72 new now .
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that is a good deal, Elements 6 will do pretty much everything you would want to do.
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You know what is funny? I have had Elements for ~8 months and I just figured out how to use it about 2 weeks ago. I had to force myself to figure it out when I was setting up my website. Now I have no idea how I managed to work without it. It is such a great program.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Does PS Elements have a "curves" tool? Last I heard, it didn't. I couldn't imagine digital editing of photos w/o curves. I think it would be actually impossible.

Jason
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No, it doesn't have the curves tool, but I adjust curves in Lightroom before I take my photos in Elements.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Ah, got it. Curious: what does PS E have that Lightroom doesn't give you?

Jason
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The ability to make more specific local adjustments and one off images.
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Hambone Lewinski Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Hambone Lewinski (admin) 10 years ago
You mean like selections and stuff? I'm just curious because I've never used either tool. I was under the impression that Lightroom was designed to be "enough" for photography. I'm not trying to be a snob or anything :-).

Jason
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What do you mean by "enough"?

The new Lightroom (which I don't yet have) will actually allow you to burn and dodge, and do specific local adjustments. However, what I can't do in Lightroom is work in layers and do things like applying textures. I also cannot create photo documents such as business card designs or photo products that I might offer in my business.

Lightroom is a fantastic program. I know a lot of photographers who do the majority of their editing in Lightroom and then take their photos into Elements or Photoshop for minor tweaking, which is what I have also started doing. It works well.
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
"What do you mean by "enough"? "

I should qualify that. Lightroom is marketed as the equivalent of the "digital" darkroom. So I imagine it being everything that you need to go from RAW images (that is, digital "negatives) to prints -- adjusting contrast levels, correcting color casts, cleaning up dust, etc. Is that true?

We're starting to nudge oftopic, here, and I really don't want to hijack your thread... maybe I should spawn this into a different conversation?

Jason
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
shana i would love to purchase that from you but will be broke for the next few weeks. would you be willing to hold onto it and i'll pay and take it from you at October's monthly meeting?
if that's too long, then go ahead and sell it to someone else.
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Jason, go ahead and start a new thread, I'd love to talk about this more. I'm not processing anything in my head right now, so I'd be better to talk about this tomorrow or early next week.

Natalie, that is not a problem at all. I'll bring to for you at the Oct. meeting. :-)
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
Thanks Shana! and just to make sure- this is a full edition of Adobe Elements photoshop correct?
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fallfaceforward 10 years ago
Shana- turns out that i have a friend who has a copy of a photoshop program that i can have for free so i'm no longer needing to purchase the copy you have. Sorry for any inconvenience, i hope this is okay.
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No problem, Natalie! :-)
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