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HBRstudios 4:09pm, 31 July 2008
Place: ????
Time: after 1:30 am
Date: Tuesday, August 12th

science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/22jul_perseiddawn.htm?li...
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Akatzmarkphotography 10 years ago
only if your there lol.. JK
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N. Lindstrom Photo 10 years ago
Possibly. What kind of lens would one require for an excellent image?
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Probably wide to "normal" (like 12mm up to 35mm on the 1.5x sensors) and a reasonable tripod. It will be like shooting star trails, but with meteors mixed in.
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Oh, I will be there, Ariel.
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Hmm. I have my 17-40 and I have a 28 mm coming today. Would either of those work? Oh, but I suppose I would need a cable shutter release with a timer?
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I am guessing something with a Wide aperture would be helpful as well depending on your exposure lengths?
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
If you want star trails with it, you will have to have a cable release of some sort to get longer exposures. If not, you can still get images at 30 seconds with meteors in them, you just have to take a lot and you won't get the star trails.

Cameras with noise control are an added bonus, too. Otherwise there is the possibility of looking at www.startrails.de where you can merge 30 second exposures to get trails, but I don't know how it would work with meteor trails.

Yes, a 1.4 to 2.8 lens is nice, but not necessary --- you can get it up to ISO400 and shoot stars with a 5.6, I would bet.
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Ok, yeah I see now, you are going to do long exposures. I was thinking shorter exposures for some reason. I have shot successful 30 minute star trails at F/8 28mm 30 minutes, so Yeah it shouldn't be a problem with any wide to semi-wide angle lens.
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My 17-40mm is a 4.0, but the 28mm is a 2.8, so I am guessing I could make either of them work, especially the 28mm.
I will be in town that night. My current equipment isn't good enough for this type of shoot, but I was gonna be up to watch the Perseid shower anyway. Got the time, will wait for an update on the place.
NorthernMinnesotaPhoto 10 years ago
I was looking through my crystal ball and that night their will be some Excellent Northern Lights (maybe). What a great combination. You can bet i'll be set up with three tripods for optimal pleasure (and frustration). Oh yeah and my Sigma 10-20 will be one one.
Sadly, my current equipment will probably be no good for this type of shoot, but the combination of the Perseid Shower and Aurora Borealis??

I'll be happy just to watch the light show, and of course bug the hell out of you guys with technical questions...
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Brian, where are you thinking of doing this? I'd like to show up for part of it at least.
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AMS, either of your lenses will work great

CityGuyPrairieGirl - what are you shooting with? If you are using a P&S and it has manual mode, you can do this assuming you have a tripod.
It's the FujiFilm 10 megapixel I just "upgraded" to. It's one of the glorified P&S models that looks sorta like a DSLR. I haven't had the opportunity to take it out of the box yet since my concert schedule has been a little hectic the last few weeks.

It does indeed have a manual mode, I should play with it tonight and see what transpires. I do have a tripod, but I'm not sure if I'll be bringing it on this trip, since the friggin' airlines want to charge me for checked baggage now... I may buy an inexpensive (yeah, right) one when I get to Minneapolis next Sunday.
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Shana et al -- I am up for suggestions on a place to do this, especially if there will be the chance of northern lights.

Any suggestions?
I've only been there once, but from what I saw, aren't there a myriad of options along the lakeshore going north without going too far out of the city?

I remember last year on the way to Two Harbors we stopped briefly at this little park area with a small bay that it didn't look like it would have much in the way of light pollution at night... I remember there was a small parking area, and an outhouse about 70-80 yards from said parking area... It had a name, but of course I can't remember it.

I took these two photos there:
www.flickr.com/photos/cityguyprairiegirl/2425232703/in/se...
www.flickr.com/photos/cityguyprairiegirl/2425233277/in/se...

Does it look familiar to any of you? I seem to remember it wasn't more than a 15-20 drive... But you guys would know if there's anyplace closer that would be better...
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Looks Like Flood Bay to me. There would be light pollution there.
Scratch that one... NEXT!!!
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pH foto 10 years ago
The sports fields on Jean Duluth Rd would offer wide open horizons. The quality of the darkness would need to be scouted.

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I have the perfect place to do this, but it is a bit of a drive. There is a spot on the South Shore where the Amnicon river goes into Lake Superior and there is an excellent beach there. There is no light pollution and no trees blocking the view of the sky. I would say from Superior it would take 30-40 minutes to get there.
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
This might not be the same beach, but have you been to that beach lately? I went in the spring and there was no beach left! We have been going to this beach for a number of years and it was more than just a shock to see it all gone (and this was when the lake was at a lower level than now, too.)

Some scouting must be done!
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
Crap! Last night would have been so perfect, but it wasn't even on my radar with all the other things going on that day.

And tonight is forecast cloudy and chance of thunderstorms.

It may be clear earlier, maybe.............
NorthernMinnesotaPhoto 10 years ago
I was out last night till 1230, not much going on up here. And yeah, todays overcast.
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Saturday Night was clear and there was an awesome Northern Lights display with a ton of meteors. I had a beer in my hand and my camera was left at home. It was bitter sweet.....
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Brian, we were just at the beach I mentioned today and it is there as usual. It is on Amnicon River road, is that the one you are thinking of? It didn't take as long to get there as I thought.......maybe 20 minutes outside of Superior.
We're in town... just got in this afternoon... We are at Fitger's and I have internet in the room, but I'm obviously not in there all the time.

If someone could call us and update me on the location I will be your bestest friend!!! 716-803-4877. (Yeah... I still have a New York phone... sorry!)
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HBRstudios Posted 10 years ago. Edited by HBRstudios (admin) 10 years ago
Sorry, I thought my post kinda said that I wasn't going to be there if there were clouds (and the possible storms moving in.) My apologies for any confusion!

Shana -- it is a different beach than I have been to.

The meteor shower lasts many days, tonight is the peak, but if it clears in the next day or so, I am still game!
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HBRstudios 10 years ago
All right, it is supposed to be clearing tonight!

I am game for attempting another shot at this -- and the meteors should still be fairly frequent.

But....... the moon does not set until 2:30 AM. I am up for trying night shots before with the moonlight, and getting star trails with the meteors later on.

Shana, did the Amnicon river beach look promising? Were there areas of still, pooled water to add to the foreground?

Anybody else interested this time around???
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I personally think that the Amnicon beach looks very promising. You would have many different good vantage points, from shooting over the river, the lake, the beach, and the woods. I only hiked part of the beach, but I did see one small pooled bit of water, although I am sure there are others heading the other way. This is what the one I saw looked like:

puddle

I might be up for it tonight. Let me see how the next few hours ago here at home.
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weather.com shows Isolated T-Storms tonight.
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HBRstudios Posted 10 years ago. Edited by HBRstudios (admin) 10 years ago
NOAA doesn't agree and has light cloud cover by 4 am. But it does have fog in the forecast!
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Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer (admin) 10 years ago
Which means you should maybe pick up some hand warmers to rubber band to your lens to keep them from fogging in case of Heavy dew.
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Akatzmarkphotography 10 years ago
so whats the plan
Oh sure...

We're back in Minneapolis, NOW the weather clears up...

Ah well... at least we got to have dinner with noreeyay and her daughter last night... We'll be back up that way in about three weeks I think.
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HBRstudios Posted 10 years ago. Edited by HBRstudios (admin) 10 years ago
Well, if anybody is checking this, I think that the chances of the clouds moving out are slim and my desire to stay up at this point and time has faded.

If I really wanted to, I could set the alarm for 2:00 and see what conditions are like at that point.

But I don't feel like it.

Oh, well.
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Akatzmarkphotography 10 years ago
nah my throat hurt and i have had a terrible day
I don't feel like I'm missing anything now... I suppose that's a good thing...

Next year perhaps?

Of course, here in Minneapolis, the land of light pollution the skies are currently pretty clear... go figure.
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