fallfaceforward 7:23pm, 22 January 2008
with my tax refund i'm planning on buying a new digital camera. i'd like to stay below $800 if possible. i'm not that experience with photography so the things that are currently important to me:

- good flash- some flashes tend to white out your subject
- quality autofocus- i'm not too skilled yet at setting my own focus
- is able to shoot subjects that are in motion, or has a stabilizer in case the camera is moving a little while the photo is taken
- easy to read and learn instructions- for when i want to expand my knowledge! lol

i mostly just take canidid photos of friends and family while out.

okay so send me ideas. i know the guys at Qwest are full of opinions.

natalie
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So are you looking for a point and shoot or a DSLR (camera with interchangable lenses?)

For a point and shoot I'd recommend something like the Canon Powershot S3 IS . I have some friends who take great pictures with theirs, including:
www.flickr.com/photos/92937885@N00/
www.flickr.com/photos/lorifranz/2205822167/
www.flickr.com/photos/teardrops2/
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
dslr- i have a point and shoot and i hate it. i'd rather shoot film with my 35mm then use a point and shoot.
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Well this group will tell you a million different things. 3 being.. Nikon, Canon, and Pentex.. All good cameras.. You will find more lenses with the Nikon and Canon... You will find more support with the Nikon and Canon locally in my opinion. DP review is a good place to get side by side results and compare prices. www.dpreview.com/ B&H www.bhphotovideo.com/ offer good prices and are trustworthy but don't count out the helpful folks at 1st photo www.firstphoto.biz/
Hope this helps sort and start you one your way. Go Nikon!!! www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/484235-REG/Nikon_9425_D80_... or www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/486469-REG/Nikon_9424_D40x... Had to do that ,, Sorry...
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Natalie,

First of all, what's wrong with 35mm film? :-) I shoot film exclusively -- it is a lot of fun... don't sell it short!

A P&S isn't so bad if it is a high quality "Prosumer" P&S. There are many that are very similar to DSLRs minus interchangeable lenses for just a bit less. If you aren't looking to build up a serious collection of lenses, they are an option.

As for me, if I were to go for a DSLR, I would go for a Pentax K10D or K100D. Pentax K DSLRs are backwards compatible with all the Pentax lenses that have come out since the 1970s, the K100D is small, cheap (but high quality!), no-frills camera.

Jason
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Hambone Lewinski 10 years ago
Aaron,

You are forgetting about the "vocal minority" of film lovers.

Jason
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I know but you have to realize that it is going to be a hard sell. I love film but digital sells. Plus I think you film guys are a bit touched in the head with chemical fumes ; )
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Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer (admin) 10 years ago
The most affordable DSLR's on the market are the Pentax K100D and the Nikon D40 and canon rebel.

Pentax K100d with 18-55mm lens $599
www.amazon.com/Pentax-Digital-Reduction-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/d...

Nikon D40 with 18-55mm lens $549
www.amazon.com/Nikon-Digital-18-55mm-3-5-5-6G-Zoom-Nikkor...

Canon rebel 10.1mp with 18-55mm lens $595
www.amazon.com/Canon-Digital-10-1MP-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/dp/B0...

I believe to use Autofocus with the d40, the lens has to have the AF motor witch makes the lenses allot more expensive.

These are all entry level DSLR's and are well capable of what you want to do.
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Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer (admin) 10 years ago
I still say this is the best bang for your buck. Especially for the price range you are looking for.
www.amazon.com/Pentax-Digital-Reduction-18-55mm-3-5-5-6/d...

Pentax K10D 10.2MP Digital SLR Camera with Shake Reduction and 18-55mm $756 and free shipping.
Oh yeah and there is still a $100 pentax rebate available if purchased before january 31st.
I just bought this camera and absolutely love it.

So for $656 you get a great camera with tons of features and money left over to buy a tripod or some memory cards and other accessories.

P.S. this is not meant to say pentax is supreme over any other brand. You just aren't going to get another camera with a feature set like this for the money.
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For $800 or less you could go with something like the Canon XTi and still be able to get a memory card and one, maybe two lenses. Keep in mind that most built in flashes on any camera will white out your subject unless you keep a good distance from whatever you are shooting and/or unless you diffuse the light somehow. And with a DSLR quality auto focus will be dependent on what lenses you buy, not necessarily the camera body itself.

Oh, and I just have to agree with Jason that there is nothing wrong with a good point and shoot. I shot with a "prosumer" p&s for quite awhile, the Panasonic DMC-FZ50, and it really took good pictures. The only reason I didn't recommend it here is because it has manual focus. If you think you will want to add more lenses to your collection down the road, then definitely go the DSLR route, but if you don't see yourself needing or wanting to spend the money on more lenses then a good prosumer p&s would be a good option for you.
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I forgot about the Pentax K10D, Shawn. Definitely for her price range that will give her the most bang for her buck.
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Randall Cottrell 10 years ago
hold and handle each camera to see how it feels in your hands and get the one that feels best

there's really no difference what make/model it is
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Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer Posted 10 years ago. Edited by Shawn Thompson - Lake Superior Photographer (admin) 10 years ago
P.S. You can dial your on board flash's power values up or down to control your flash output.


Randall said "there's really no difference what make/model it is "

I will disagree, especially if you want in camera shake reduction, in camera sensor cleaning and noise reduction (aka dark frame subtraction."
You can't get in camera shake reduction in Canon or Nikon bodies

Oh yeah, Canon rebel bodies and Nikon d40 bodies are made of plastic.
Something to keep in mind.

Decent article to read. www.cameralabs.com/reviews/PentaxK10D/page6.shtml

I will say that the pentax suffers when shooting in JPG mode, but is amazing when shooting RAW. I never shoot jpg so it doesn't matter to me.

Where are the canon people. I know that the canon's and Nikon's have their strong points as well.
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Randall Cottrell 10 years ago
troy danger 10 years ago
canon
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Karl W. 10 years ago
canon has hand shake reduction stuff? Or the s3 is does at least?
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manley.josh 10 years ago
i remember these talks...seems like only yesterday we were....


::Cough:: CANON!!!
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maxcaven 10 years ago
nikon
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K. Praslowicz 10 years ago
Graflex
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Karl W. 10 years ago
"Graflex?" I think he means canon
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K. Praslowicz 10 years ago
If by canon, you mean Graflex. Then yes. Canon.
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Karl W. 10 years ago
I think it's more like the other way. Sorry that your mistaken. Its okay
fallfaceforward 10 years ago
sigh, what have i started.
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Honestly. Read some reviews on potential DSLRs in your budget. Weigh the pros and cons and see which one fits you best and buy it,

If you come to the meeting tomorrow night you will be able to see almost every camera listed in this thread and can look at them all and try them out.
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manley.josh 10 years ago
I hate to agree with Shawn (pentax user) ::cringe:: but you can see pretty much everything at the meeting.

Shawn I will leave you alone as soon as you convert to the good side... :-)
fallfaceforward Posted 10 years ago. Edited by fallfaceforward (member) 10 years ago
i will be unable to attend the meeting as i have ceramics class on Wed. nights.
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