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Iron Builder 3.0 - Round 14 - Disco86 vs. Pepa Quin

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Nannan Z. is a group administrator Nannan Z. says:

Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the season finale of Iron Builder 3.0! On behalf of the co-chairman we thank you for tuning in to the most exiting Lego duel on the internet. This round is once again sponsored by LEGO Mixels, and each builder has received a generous batch sent by LEGO to aid them in battle. Without further ado, let's introduce our builders and start the show!

When former Iron Builder pasukaru76 fell from the throne almost two years ago, his ashes birthed a young hero who quietly entered the scene on Flickr, hoping to one day claim victory in the legendary Iron Builder arena and reinstate the crown for Germany. Having mastered time travel, our challenger has learned techniques for building both the past and the future. His creations reign from an era of dragons to the unexplored frontiers of space. When asked who is this challenger, look no further past the man who owns the title of Master Builder of CCCXI who simultaneous launched a SHIP into space. Please welcome Disco86!

"Master what?" says our Iron Builder, who builds creatures large enough to eat a ship. Not big enough? Try being larger than a town or city. When this Iron Builder is unleashed, he aims to deliver crushing blows. He is the heavy-weight of the arena. He is here to prove that the Iron Builder crown is not meant to be passed onto small-timers. He is... Pepa Quin!

And now I present the mystery piece of this round. Prepare to embrace...

Iron Builder 3.0 - Round 14 - PepaQuin vs. Disco86 by V&A Steamworks - Guy HImber


Red inverted domes!

So who will it be? David or Goliath? I saw onto you the words of my uncle: Allez brick!
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SpearralSquid says:

Awesome!!! This is gonna be a good one.
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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

Welcome to this round of Iron Builder and good luck to you Mister De Lanoy ! Unfortunately I am no native english speaking, so that I am not able to do the necessary trash talk. Making nasty jokes in a foreign language could be complicated and may sound rude, so I try to avoid that. Whatever...

Here is my first build, the City of Dale from the Hobbit movies:

City of Dale
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pasukaru76 is a group moderator pasukaru76 says:

Hah, this rounds I know who to root for! You can do it, Paul! First the world cup, now Iron Builder.
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Gilcélio is a group moderator Gilcélio says:

pasukaru76:

World Cup, My god, why you say that!! Let's change the conversation, please, please... 7x1 no, no, no.
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Bert.VR says:

Germany vs. France... this is going to be an explosive round! Especially with such a nice piece. Good luck to both ABS builders! And Disco, let the bricks do the trash talk!
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

No trash talk? Well, I'll just have to talk in my own native language then.

BZZZZRRRNRNNZZZZZNZNZZZNNRRRRRRRNNNNNNN

Cicada by Pepa Quin

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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

The brotherhood of NOD is joining my side.

NOD Tiberium Harvester
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Dodge... says:

Stellar match-up, and great stuff so far!

I have a feeling the next four years will be peppered with this topic won't it?
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Mark of Falworth is a group moderator Mark of Falworth says:

Nice part! Looking forward to this round! :D

And nothing against Pepa here, but us castle builders support each other. Go Paul! :)
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Castle? Made of easily broken up rock and stone? Hmmm...

Always Use Protection by Pepa Quin

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Siercon and Coral is a group moderator Siercon and Coral says:

Is this round back to 1 month or is 3 weeks going to be the norm?
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SpearralSquid says:

Pepa Quin:

Ooh, I think I'm going to have to side with Disco. As Mark of Falworth:

Said, castle builders should support each other, we Mus defend against our favorite theme. However, both builders are fantastic, and I'll gladly cheer them on.
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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

Protection really is important, but ear-protection won't help against gonorrhea...

Always use protection
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Protection? You'll need a full suit to defend against that!

Exo-Fruit by Pepa Quin

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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

No need to suit up, if getting hatched with armor... but my special attack is going to knock you off your feet !

Ankylosaurus
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Dead Frog inc. says:

I like how the last 4 MOCs were about all kinds of protection. Get creative, guys! :D
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~Erathor Pridenar~ says:

I'm so rooting for Paul here. Sorry Matt, but you should always support a Master Builder. Come on!
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Whoa... you went too far back! Lets move up a few eons.

Diabolo by Pepa Quin

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V&A Steamworks - Guy HImber is a group administrator V&A Steamworks - Guy HImber says:

Coming late to the party!

Looking particularly awesome so far guys! I am looking forward to all the sweet surprises in the weeks to come!
: )
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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

So you are up for a time travel ? Lets travel to Germany 9 a.m. - Breakfast time !

Cranberry Cereal
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Sorry, no time for breakfast, have to get some practice in.

Archery Range by Pepa Quin

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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

No time for practice anymore, the battle already has begun !

Battle of Eisenschlucht
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

No time for battle, the game has begun!

Wrong turtle by Pepa Quin

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GustSil says:

This IB is looking great! One of my favorite parts are the subtitles you guys get on the pics :)
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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

We really need to relax...

Mos Eisley Cantina

Mos Eisley Cantina
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Relax? No! We DANCE!

Dancing is life. by Pepa Quin

This will look a bit better if you watch the video, though. :)
Dancing Groot
Warning: This is a minor spoiler for a post-credit scene from Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

I prefer the Engineers of the Galaxy...

M-Tron Base

M-Tron Rover
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

M-Tron has got nothing on Oc-Tron

George says hello by Pepa Quin

George is hiding by Pepa Quin

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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Cherry picking ideas isn't always easy...

You Picked the Wrong Cherry Tree, George. by Pepa Quin

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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Really, the foliage is getting deadly around here...

Plants vs Everyone by Pepa Quin

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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

Sorry for being not that active the last days, but I got a new job !

Better Call Paul !

(True story, even if my office is not looking like this)
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

New job? EVERYTHING IS AWESOME.

Comrade Benny's Mini Космический корабль! Космический корабль! КОСМИЧЕСКИЙ КОРАБЛЬ! by Pepa Quin

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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

You are getting into space ? Don't visit Felucia, it's really dangerous out there...

Searching on Felucia
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Love is equally dangerous...

A Simple Valentine by Pepa Quin

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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

In Case of Emergency, Break Glass

In Case of Emergency, Break Glass by Pepa Quin

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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

I am slowing down, so maybe I should fill up the gas ?

Octan Gas Station
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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

Filling up the gas tank wasn't enough, what I really needed was my air tank !

Jellyfish Reef
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Nannan Z. is a group administrator Nannan Z. says:

Great job so far, I forgot to mention that the deadline is September 1st
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Tanks but no tanks, I'll just get some bugs instead.

Red-eyed Tree Frog by Pepa Quin

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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

I have finished this month, so let's have a party !!!

Islander Party

Thanks for a great competition Matt, good luck to you. And also thanks for the organisatiors and spectators !
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

It's been a great month, but as everyone knows - when the end comes, you head to the Bastion.

When the end comes, you head for the Bastion. by Pepa Quin

The Kid and some gasfellas by Pepa Quin


Whew. Great competition, Paul, and thanks to everyone for tuning in. This was a far more difficult piece to use then one might think!
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Nannan Z. is a group administrator Nannan Z. says:

The judges for this round will be Brickthing, cmaddison, and rack911. Stay tuned for the verdict!
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V&A Steamworks - Guy HImber is a group administrator V&A Steamworks - Guy HImber says:

PepaQuin VS Disco86 FINAL

The results for the Season Finale of the latest round of Iron Builder are in!

To begin, let us thank our judges for this latest battle of brick warriors. We have an International cast of talented brick-folk who have taken seats high up in the stadium to best watch the ensuing slug-fest. Scores have been tabulated, wounds and bruises have been noted, and one noble warrior has been judged the victor.

Judge #1 - CMaddison – ( USA ) former Iron Builder competitor
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Judge #2 – BrickThing ( New Zealand ) – former Iron Builder competitor
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Judge #3 – Rack911 ( Taiwan ) - talented and clever builder
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From Judge #1

Paul, you had some of my favorite builds this round. The City of Dale, the Ankylosaurus, and Better Call Paul were great examples of really inspired builds. There were some beautiful presentations, like the Mos Eisley Cantina, The Battle of Eisenschlucht and the M-Tron Base. I'm a sucker for brick built settings, and you had that in spades. Overall, I felt like your builds were more polished, but the seed parts weren't used as cleverly, or were repeated uses (the drums from the Cantina, and the island party come to mind), and sometimes I had to really look to find them. If this weren't a contest relying on the seed part, you'd have my vote, but it just barely swung the other way.

Comments from judge for Pepa Quin:

Matt, your Cicada brought on horrible flashbacks of earlier this summer in the best way, and that is one awesome Octopus. Your building style is a touch less refined than Paul's, but your really used the seed part in creative ways, like the Diabolo, the Archery Range (my favorite parts usage of the round, just because of it's different-ness), and in Plants vs Everyone. Your presentations were fairly consistent throughout, clean and simple, but even a few builds I thought fell kind of flat (In Case of Emergency, Break Glass, for example) were very nice to look at. At the end of the day though, the seed parts felt more front and center, and that gave you the narrow win in my book.

Disco86
Building skill: 20/20
Presentation: 18/20
Use of mystery part: 16/20
Total: 54/60

Pepa Quin
Building skill: 19/20
Presentation: 18/20
Use of mystery part: 18/20
Total: 55/60


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Judge #2

For my judging, both players will start with a base level of 10/20 points representing a respectable standard performance, adding points for where I was impressed or entertained. I will be focusing more on quality over quantity, since Iron Builder is expected to bring about a spectacle of fantastic builds that jump out at you from your photostream updates.

Building Skill - Disco86 : 14/20

When Disco's name was announced as the Iron Builder challenger, I knew that we'd be in for a treat. Disco has built everything from grand historic battles to futuristic Star Wars scenes, and always with a high level of technical skill. In terms of building skill, a few of Disco's builds really stood out to me:

City of Dale - Hitting the ground running, this first build is a treat to look at. The city has wonderful curved walls and a wide variety of intricate buildings, while the mountain face wall has lovely textures such as the 1x2 grilled bricks behind the arched window and the stone minifigure statues. Every brick has purpose and thought, even the border, which uses brick-bricks to help sell the micro-scale feel.

M-Tron Base - Part of being an AFOL is having a nostalgic soft-spot for classic space themes, so it's great to see a well-executed Neo-M-Tron scene. It's easy to get carried away with detailed greebles, but there's just the right amount here to let the focus reside on the rover while not being overly simple. I particularly love the inset domes in the wall, the attention to the orientation of the flick-fire missiles, and the brick-brick textured door. There's also serious skill in building a floor so shiny and scuff free!

Overall Disco's builds never get truly complicated, but they're executed so well that you don't seem to miss it. Especially in a time-limited contest, there's no reason for using elaborate brick-math or chaotic rock work every-time, when it's not the focus or point of the MOC. There are a few instances in Disco's smaller one-shot entries where I would have hoped for more complicated builds to give me more to look at, such as in Better Call Saul (excluding the lovely floor) and Jellyfish Reef.

One reason I value Iron Builder is for the pressure it puts on builders to expand past their usual genres. It was fantastic to see Disco try out some other styles and scales, which led to some of his best builds. I really hope he continues to expand and challenge his building style in the future! : D

Building Skill - Pepa Quin : 11/20

Defending Iron Builder champion Pepa Quin is a building force to be reckoned with, who has built projects of every scale, scope and style. It comes as no surprise that his Iron Builder entries range from minifigure and miniland scales to larger than life animals and comically microscale spaceships. Of Pepa's entries, highlights for me included:

Red-Eyed Tree Frog - Sculpting organic forms and curves with LEGO is never easy, but Pepa pulls it off to create an immediately recognizable creature. Considering lime isn't the easiest colour to work with, the clear lines and crisp colour blocking on the torso and legs is incredibly impressive!

Bastion - My initial reaction to this build was sceptical, because the colours and details seemed unfamiliar to how I remembered the game from playing it. However, after jogging my memory with the inspiration image Pepa used, I was immediately able to appreciate the amount of detail he managed to replicate, which is no easy feat at minifigure scale. Bastion is an incredibly beautiful game, but its style can sometimes be overloaded with detail. I applaud Pepa for having the courage to tackle it, and the skill to pull it off convincingly!

With the exception of his miniland expertise, Pepa's building style is less conventional than Disco's, and he isn't adverse building upside down or throwing in the odd Technic element when needed. This can work to his advantage by letting him tackle more difficult and unique subjects such as Bastion or Cicadas which wouldn't work with pure System.

However, this messier style can also leave a MOC looking slightly unfinished, which unnecessary detail that makes it more difficult to understand. For example the anti-studs and plate-lines in Comrade Benny's Mini Spaceship and the tube-side base of "Always use Protection" distract you from other details in the MOC, and could have easily been avoided by building slightly differently.

Overall, Pepa delivered a more impressive range of MOCs, but I felt that they lacked that extra level of polish and refinement to get an immediate "wow" factor. Builds such as Archery Range, "You Picked the Wrong Cherry Tree" and "Plants vs Everyone" didn't expand upon the initial idea in relation to building skill.


Presentation is a fairly broad category, covering photography, composition, lighting, and even the build description. It plays a strong part in your initial reaction to seeing a build, and can transform an excellent MOC into truly memorable one. Presentation is particularly important for Iron Builders, because everything you build that isn't visible in the final photo is wasted time and effort.

Presentation - Disco86 : 16/20

Disco86 is no stranger to the art of presentation, choosing to use clean cut backgrounds or scenic dioramas wherever appropriate. City of Dale and Islander Party are good examples of crisp clean backgrounds letting the MOC do the talking.

Building scenery can uplift vehicle or character builds by adding context and mood in true LEGO fashion. This is especially valuable for small builds that might otherwise not contain enough "build" to stand as the sole subject of a photo. The Tiberium Harvester and Octan Gas Station are excellent examples of scenery adding valuable context and build to the vehicle MOCs. Conversely I felt that the messy scenery in "Always use Protection"* and the Ankylosaurus detracted from the quality of the overall photo.

*Smack-talk credit using Pepa's base, but you could have improved it as part of the smack! D:

The shadowed skies are suspect, but the shallow focus in "The Battle of Eisenschlucht" is integral to the forced perspective trick. The reflections and logo in the M-Tron Rover's photo are inexpensive and classy tricks that similarly enhance the presentation of a MOC.

Finally, the Mos Eisley Cantina is definitely the standout build for presentation, utilizing a range of lighting effects along with depth of field and very impressive reflections to fully immerse the viewer into the scene. It looks like the cantina was designed with the lighting and viewing angle in mind, and built accordingly.

Throughout Disco's entries he's consistently had solid presentation skills, but with glimpses of amazing presentation that uplift creations such as the Mos Eisley Cantina and Octan Gas Station to higher levels. I'm disappointed that more of Disco's builds didn't shine like those two.


Presentation - Pepa Quin : 10/20

Pepa's photography always communicates his builds clearly, which is the most essential element of presentation. However, the dividing line between oddly coloured posterboards often reminds you that you're looking at regular plastic bricks instead of the scene they're intended to create. I would have loved to have seen a (brick-built or otherwise) bustling Victorian street for "Diabolo" or a fruity space base for the Exo-Fruit.

"Wrong Cherry Tree", "Dancing is Life" and "Archery Range" all depicted environments that had the potential to be filled with an expanse of interesting details, but instead ended very nearly in the foreground with space filling bricks. Instead there could have been a dramatic forested and cloud-dotted microscale backdrop for the "Wrong Cherry Tree" or "Archery Range".


"In Case of Emergency" is a standout example of excellent presentation, where color is used selectively to clearly communicate the inner thoughts of an office worker. It's a restrictive technique that can only work in certain situations, but it lets this photo convey the meaning of an entire paragraph.


While Iron Builder is often thought about as a grueling endurance and building skill test, it's also a seed part challenge, and the judging points breakdown indicates that that is at least one third important. The Brick Round 2x2 Dome Bottom is an interesting piece released at the start of this year as a plunger in a LEGO Movie set. That's a highly innovative use already, setting the bar high for the use of the mystery part in this round.

Use of Mystery Part - Disco86 : 7/20

Overall I was disappointed with Disco's use of the mystery part. The piece was used as the inspiration for the MOCs, but it often felt forced or unnecessary to the final product. In MOCs such as the Cantina and Better Call Paul, the piece would've been better in a different colour, causing the seed part to work against the build.

In "Always use protection"'s fire hydrant and "The Battle of Eisenschlucht"'s shields, I personally think regular 2x2 domed bricks and 2x2 dishes respectively would've worked better than the seed part for the MOCs they were in.

There were a few MOCs where the piece was used excellently, which couldn't have been pulled off as well with regular red 2x2 dome bricks; roofs in the City of Dale, retro gas tanks at the Octan Gas Station, and jellyfish in the Jellyfish Reef. The layered rings of a jellyfish is an excellent Iron Builder caliber use of the part, which I felt went under-appreciated in the reef MOC. Really excellent, but I wished there were more uses like that!


Use of Mystery Part - Pepa Quin : 18/20

Pepa definitely excelled in using the Mystery part. That his builds cover such a wide range of topics and yet all place the part in the centre of attention is a testimony to this. Almost every build used the piece in an original way, and only a few felt contrived. My favourite applications include:

Diabolo - The piece perfectly suits the classic toy at a miniland scale, and couldn't have been achieved with other parts as well. The matching red flick-fire missiles complete the build.

In Case of Emergency - Pepa uses both the piece and its color to create the storytelling effect of this photo. It's a well suited use made perfect by the environment the piece is placed in.

Red-Eyed Tree Frog - While the red suction cups of George didn't make much sense, here they are a far closer match, and combo excellently with the seed-part eyes.

Scores and Summary

Disco86
Building skill: 14/20
Presentation: 16/20
Use of mystery part: 7/20
Total: 37/60

Pepa Quin
Building skill: 11/20
Presentation: 10/20
Use of mystery part: 18/20
Total: 39/60

Apologies for the large amount of text and harsh scoring! I wanted to give specific feedback, since as Iron Builders you can definitely take it. : D It was a tough seed part and a long month, but you both put on an exemplary show! While Disco had a higher standard of build quality and presentation, in the end I need to give the lead to Pepa for the skill he showed at embracing the mystery part in true Iron Builder fashion.

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Judge #3

Disco86
Building skill: 17/20
Presentation: 18/20
Use of mystery part: 16/20
Total: 51/60

Pepa Quin
Building skill: 19/20
Presentation: 17/20
Use of mystery part: 17/20
Total: 53/60


Comments from judge for Disco86:
very well on the presentation,there are interesting and surprise on his works, I really like them.

Comments from judge for Pepa Quin:
very impressive on his works, a lot of wonder skill, and the color is perfect. of course , the trash talk make me laugh.

( NOTE from the Chairmen – English is not Rack’s mother language so we appreciate his efforts to express his thoughts for us here today!)

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The Coliseum is filled with thunderous applause as we congratulate our Iron Builder’s successful defense of his title, Pepa Quin remains our Champion!

After a long and challenging battle Disco86 takes off his bloodied armor and looks at the impressive array of MOCs he has thrown at the Iron Builder. Excellent work Disco but now you, as the defeated, must NOW build a trophy in tribute to the victor!

NOTE FROM the CHAIRMEN

We hope you have all enjoyed the season finale of Iron Builder 3.0. The skills and talents of everyone involved have left us breathless with admiration and anticipation.

Iron Builder 4.0 should start in the beginning of November and we look forward to seeing what delicious creations and plastic delicacies out Iron Builders and their worthy foes will cook up for us in the year to come. We have some fantastic surprises and adventures planned to keep things as entertaining as possible.

As always, we thank all of the builders for being so generous with their time and taltents and a big THANKS to the audience cheering from the stands.

ALLEZ BRICK! – are you not entertained!?!??

Chairman Nannan and Chairman Guy
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pasukaru76 is a group moderator pasukaru76 says:

So Germany does not regain an Iron Builder throne, oh well, it was still a very fun round to watch!
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~Erathor Pridenar~ says:

Congratulations, Pepa Quin! It was a very enjoyable battle, thanks to both of you for that.
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Disco86 is a group moderator Disco86 says:

Congrats Matt !
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Mark of Falworth is a group moderator Mark of Falworth says:

Congratulations Matt! Great round both of you! :)
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enigmabadger says:

Congrats to Matt, but great building all around!
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SpearralSquid says:

Congrats Matt! I thought it was going to be Disco, but you really stole the show with that frog!
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brick.spartan says:

Well done both of you and congrats to peppa, now you can both have a well earned rest!
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Ian Spacek says:

Well fought gents! And congratulations on holding your ground Matt.
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CeciΙie is a group moderator CeciΙie says:

Congrats Matt :)
And well done to both contestants, it was a fun round to watch.
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Pepa Quin is a group moderator Pepa Quin says:

Wow, whew. :)
Thanks, everyone, and again thanks to Paul for a great competition. Now it's time for relaxing, sorting, and dreading the time where I once again have to Brewster Million another piece...
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Karf Oohlu is a group moderator Karf Oohlu says:

Cheers guys, another very entertaining round of brickfulness : ))
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David FNJ says:

Great round guys! Congratulations on keeping your spot (for now) Matt!
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Bert.VR says:

Excellent work guys! I always find it incredible how you make such great creations in so little time (and then considering Disco made some other builds in between!). Ejoy your rest, and in case of Pepa, enjoy your victory!
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Siercon and Coral is a group moderator Siercon and Coral says:

Twas a wonderful showing. Both of you created really impressive stuff and made it a joy for all of us to watch :D Great job guys!
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Hammerstein NWC says:

Another classic! Thanks Gents!
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