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Siercon and Coral PRO 10:12pm, 21 January 2012
Lego Dragons Contest by Siercon and Coral

Mini Trophies (Dragons Contest) by Siercon and Coral

Lego Dragons Contest
January 22nd - February 29th, 2012
By Siercon and Coral

Create a Dragon! You can build a futuristic robotic, fantasy elemental, classic, anime, piñata, hardsuit or any type of dragon you so desire. Be inventive, creative, and most of all detailed. It simply needs to be a quality recognizable dragon. We are very flexible, please don’t bother to ask if something’s ok if it’s obviously a dragon. However, all entries must be appropriate, nothing crude or vulgar etc will be tolerated. Also, spend quality time on it and make it count! We’d rather everyone start now and enter one quality build at the end of Jan.

Deadline: End of February. FSOE time (if it is February 2012 Somewhere On Earth, you can still enter.)

Restrictions: No clone brands, broken, melted, or mutilated Lego. Cut Lego flex tubing and stickers are fine. Limited Bionicle is fine, but it should be a majority Lego. Belville, Clickits, Friends, and lego lines like these are all game.

Size Min/Max: There is no minimum size constraint. Just remember that this is not a mini build competition. The maximum size is 2 green baseplates or 1 large grey baseplate. Reasonable overhang is accepted as well as different shape baseplates as long as the stud count is similar to the above specs.

Judges: Siercon, Coral, and two other highly experienced builders the internet has yet to know. We will be mainly judging the dragon himself, though there are significant considerations for the scene and atmosphere. Additional things you might want to consider is using unique connections and parts usage.

Posting questions and entries:
Questions: Please ask all questions on this thread or the contest thread at the “LCN” (or both).
Entry Thread: Please enter your MOC on the entry threads of the Lego Dragons group or the “LCN” (Preferably both).
You can also post your picture in this group (this is currently a great place to find quality inspiration!).

Prizes: There will be a standard 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Above and beyond that, we will add more prizes like, unique takes, cutest, chubbiest, various colors, who knows… But those are mini trophies and should not be aimed for, merely given at a joyful whim :)
Also any of the additional trophies or mini prizes are also attainable by the top three winners (shoot for double prizes!).
1st: Lightning Dragon Battle (NIB)
2nd: Earth Dragon Defense (NIB)
3rd: Ice Dragon Attack (NIB)

If you would like to spread the word and post this picture thats perfectly fine :) Just be sure to send them to the photo link.
brickmack 4 years ago
Are multiple entries allowed?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^ Sure. Multiple entries are allowed, I would in general discourage it if it will decrease the quality of the two entries. But, if it means your bringing two awesome dragons to the table, the more the better! :D
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Deus "Big D." Otiosus (moderator) 4 years ago
MOCoff entries cool too?

Can I use a bit older MOC (like a few weeks old)?
Julandrius 4 years ago
I might have overlooked but are multiple entries allowed?
brickmack 4 years ago
^Look up about 2 inches.
AceBricks 4 years ago
Am I allowed to post a private WIP photo, showing only a couple of my closest friends to see what they think about it?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
@ Deus Otiosus: We are perfectly fine with builds that are being used for another contest. This contest was originally designed to work hand in hand with the CCC at classic-castle. So yes. That being said, you might want to check that it is ok with the other contest/MOCoff. And you can use older MOCs as long as they are new to the internet. So as long as the first picture of the creation or WIP appeared after/on the 22nd of Jan. If it was built in your closet for the last decade and no one knew, thats fine by me. Just be honorable :)

@Julandrius: Yes you can :) for a more in depth answer look up :P

@AceBricks: since it is past Jan 21st you can post as much as you want to whoever, just make sure the final version is in the appropriate place at the deadline :) A lot of people find peer edits and critiques to be very helpful, so go for it, friends can verbally help. :D And we are open to help/offer suggestions to. Nothing in particular about "what will win" but we are always available for people if they would like some MOC input :)

Happy building everyone!!
Julandrius 4 years ago
Oh, sorry. I'm ill :3
Bad is excuse is bad, but I only read the main thing.
Thanks for your time though (:
Hayden, 4 years ago
What's the mark scheme/ How will the entries be judged?
Titolian 4 years ago
I've been wanting to build a dragon for some time. Might give this a try :)
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
You told me to "slide it onto a baseplate". Was that meant as a mean of measuring (48x48) or...?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^ it looked as though the MOC was already the perfect size (48x48studs or smaller) but the dragon was off of the base plate to the side (suspended by clear pieces). I simply meant put him on the baseplate and then it would all fit within the max size. :)
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
Then I'll enter him now!
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
Check out the new mini trophies! :D
Metaphyz 4 years ago
"Limited Bionicle is fine, but it should be a majority Lego. Belville, Clickits, Friends, and lego lines like these are all game."

"Absolutely! Think outside of the box on this one... I mean if you want to take apart a lego watch and throw in some of those pieces then go for it. Must be a "Lego made this" product. "

I'd like to confirm that I can't enter a Bionicle dragon, I know it says I can't in the rules, but I have this awesome dragon head that's been lying around for a couple months and Bionicle is my modus operandi.

Either way, best of luck with your contest.
JWbricks 4 years ago
hey can I upload ldd pics and can an eleven year old enter from the u.k.?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
@ Five X Five. We would love you to enter. If there's too much Bionicle then yeah it would be disqualified. I know its hard to measure what "too much is" but basically the general feel of the creation should be lego. I usually use a max of 10 Bionicles in a creation or just use them for joints and stuff. And by 'disqualify' we mean from the running of the top three prizes. Who knows you may end up with a mini trophy? Regardless we would love to see you participate!

@Juju9999. Yes and Yes! :)
The Deathly Halliwell 4 years ago
By two green baseplates do you mean 64 studs? Also, is overhang allowed for wings and tail? i started a dragon, and it is growing much faster than I expected. I'm going to need all of the size leeway I can get. I really hope that it will still be okay to enter. Right now, the final length is about 68 studs, but wings will be extended off the sides. I'm scared it may be too big.
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^ there is lots of flexibility here. Two green baseplates ,or one grey baseplate essentially means when looking down from above he shouldn't go much past either of these two rectangles. 32x64 or 48x48. The entire borders of both are the same length. If you follow the logic then 60x36 would be ok.
With overhang. 4 studs would be fine. The only thing you've mentioned that I would see disqualifying you is the wings. By extending off the sides do you mean 4 more studs? or like 20... Perhaps a different pose, or folded wings. Hard to say without looking at it. If you want to just email a WIP I could lyk?

^ To all, we dont mind being tagged in photos to offer suggestions/advice, but that limits the length and directness of the response. Also we personally dont like ever posting WIPs, but rather email them to a close few for input rather than show/ask the world. Our gmail is on our profile if you'd like us to do the same for you. (dont do this if your only gonna do it for this contest lol) You want to find people you respect in maturity/suggestions for all the ways you build to critique your work consistently. The same goes for builders block... find someone creative for ideas :)
The Deathly Halliwell 4 years ago
I'll fold the wings or something. Maybe a wingless dragon... Thanks for the quick reply!
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^ obviously you know better (as you are looking at the actual moc.) But couldn't read this without saying, wings are awesome... even if they are tiny. I'd be hard pressed to forgo them, unless its chinese. :)
The Deathly Halliwell 4 years ago
I've taken care of it. They fold enough to give the dragon a 30x68-ish stud foorprint. Now it is time for some polishing!
The Deathly Halliwell 4 years ago
I feel like such a pain, asking all of these questions, but does the size constraint apply just to the dragon, or a diorama too? Also, if one grossly exceeds said size restraint, are they just disqualified from the main prizes or from all prizes?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
Not a pain at all! :D

^ The diorama needs to fit the sizes. So one cannot make a said two baseplate dragon on a 20 baseplate scene. the whole moc is encompassed in the size restriction. (there is no height restriction)

^ Disqualification applies to the top three prizes only. The mini prizes (the ones we've shared and ones we may still make/give are up to our own happy generosity and can be given to anyone :) That being said, they still will be generally predictable and follow their own specific category and best quality. :)
The Deathly Halliwell 4 years ago
Alrighty. Thanks!
Glory_Forever Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Glory_Forever (member) 4 years ago
Can I collaborate with my brother an entry? Thanks :)
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Siercon and Coral PRO Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Siercon and Coral (admin) 4 years ago
^ Yes but that will take you out of the running for the top three prizes. the others though are fair game! :) Im assuming you meant a single entry, not like two entries with a collaborative storyline?
Glory_Forever 4 years ago
Unfortunately yes, I mean a single entry. That stinks :( Thanks for hosting the contest tho, its great looking at all these awesome entries :)
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
Does heavy gold accent count as gold?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^^ terribly sorry :( still hope you can participate! :)

^ yeah, it will be generally decided through weighted comparison, not just color brilliancy. ie. if you build a slightly gold dragon and no one else builds one, then great, you will likely get a gold mini trophy. If someone else builds a MAJORLY/over the top gold dragon and you build an awesome higher quality chrome gold accented bio-mech.. your likely gonna win.
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
What about rebuilding an entry into different-ish colour?
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Stormbringer. PRO 4 years ago
Hey I've got a question for you. Am I allowed to have more than one dragon in an entry? I'm currently finishing up a 48x32 diorama that has 2 dragons in it.
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Siercon and Coral PRO Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Siercon and Coral (admin) 4 years ago
^^ I don't mind people editing their entries or swapping out photos up until the deadline. Just don't get caught without your entry entered :P
If your talking about, basically building the same guy in a different color as a new separate entry, then i'm guessing your just fighting against judges personal opinions in regards to creativity. You wouldn't be disqualified at all. I would personally judge one entry slightly higher than the other.

^ Yeah! More dragons great!
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
Hmm. How about, if theoreticaly, there would not be a green dragon and a gold dragon entered, and someone made a green/gold one? I'm sorry, these mini-trophies are too cool...
Grant W. 4 years ago
How many pics of the dragon can we enter because my main pic doesn't get a good shot of the legs. (The wings cover most of the legs up)
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^^ Theoretically (especially since both a green dragon and a gold dragon have been entered) I would give you both of them :) haha but again not trophies to be shot for, just to make the contest more fun! And thanks! glad you like'm :D

^ Just one needs to be entered here. We as judges will do our HW ;) and if you have multiple different angle/useful photos posted on your own photostream we will see them :)
We will do our best to judge the actual dragon, not just what is shown. That said presentation is a lot, so make that one photo good!
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
Also, if I have pictures mainly on brickshelf or in video form on Youtube, is it good to just have one picture and a link to see more or will you be hardcore FlickRists and only look at my photostream?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^if it's easy to follow/find we'll look at the other stuff :) A link would be great.
Calculus3.14 4 years ago
I am building a "Necro" Dragon, and I want to use LEGO skeletons, are they considered to be "vulgar"? Also am I allowed to make a custom leathery part for my dragon's wings? Thanks!
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^ An undead dragon would be awesome. Skeletons are not what we were thinking about deterring when we made that statement. :)
As far as wing parts usage... I would avoid using non products in the moc. This may be unavoidable, but you might want to think slightly harder and outside of the box. maybe flame webbing? capes? red plates? For a necropolis skeleton dragon... here are some more kosher ideas :)
Paper (good for printing designs on), cloth (starched sheets mimic greatly lego sails), even possibly lego plastic bags... If you have to use leather and such we wouldn't disqualify you, but those who worked hard to build "lego pure" wings will be judged more favorably.

:) hope this helped!
Calculus3.14 4 years ago
Thanks for the suggestions!
Dr. Phoenix 4 years ago
So I can build my dragon on a 48x48 green baseplate and have like 4 dot overhang for the wings?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^ yup thats fine :)
Calculus3.14 Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Calculus3.14 (member) 4 years ago
I am trying to make wings for my dragon, but they are way too heavy, and I don't know if I have the time to perfect them. I was wondering if I would be deducted points for the prizes if I decide not to make my dragon with with wings? Like, if my dragon doesn't have wings, would it be less likely to win a prize than a dragon that does have wings?
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
But if you try to connect the wings with a string and balance them... Or make it like having wings on the ground...
The Deathly Halliwell Posted 4 years ago. Edited by The Deathly Halliwell (member) 4 years ago
You could also give it little vestigial wings. Those sometimes look cool.
Calculus3.14 4 years ago
About how long after February 29 until we will know who wins the prizes?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
We'll do our best to be fast :) We know how much of a pain it is to wait :(
Just be aware that the day this contest ends I start the MOCathalon lol

Regardless, it should be soon afterwards, all the judges are within the same real world bubble, so communication should be easy.
Glory_Forever 4 years ago
Can I make just the head and neck of a dragon, or do you have to make the whole dragon?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
Partial is fine :)
Typically if its a bust then its more detailed kinda like this:
Cole Bl♠q's Dragon
: VolumeX : 4 years ago
Mine's in, did a robotic version, has body, tail, neck and some dragon like features. Great this was alot of fun guys!
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
So is the end when there's still 29th anywhere in the world?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
Yup, we'll basically check on 1st/2nd and if there's any possibility that the person entered it in february (even if they have had to be on a ship at the international date line.) its good. :)
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Deus "Big D." Otiosus (moderator) 4 years ago
The sad thing about contests with multiple entries allowed is that they end.

I hope I'll still have enough motivation to build dragons when this is over, or maybe I'll return to sci-fi for a month.
Angeli ¥ 4 years ago
Damn :) I still few more hours ;)
How many? Quickly :) I have few more things I must do before I can play with lego :) How much more time?:))))
Blake's Baericks 4 years ago
Dunzo.
Angeli ¥ 4 years ago
...ahaha what that means?:)
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^^^ if you can prove that it was february 29th somewhere on the planet when you submitted your entry. then your golden. I will assume you took a ship to the international dateline and finished your moc there :) But when all of earth is completely in march, entries are close :(
: VolumeX : 4 years ago
^This has been a blast, I love the creations in here. Thanks again for allowing the creative juices to flow!
George G - 4 years ago
Whoops, I never added my entry to the LCN group :( Does this matter? Everyone else seems to have theirs there too.
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
If it's linked to in the entries thread, it should be fine. I didn't notice anything about adding to the group in the rules.
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^^^ So glad you had a blast :D now it's deep breath before the judging plunge :P
^^ Your good. I just encouraged people to add it to both, but if you posted it to either entry thread your fine :)
Calculus3.14 4 years ago
On what site will you post the winners of the contest?
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
I trust it will be announced here?
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
^ Yes indeed :) as well as at the LCN.

**Judges are meeting in person on this saturday and sunday** Hopefully the results can be given early next week. Thanks!
George G - 4 years ago
Oooo, the anticipation! ;)
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
Curse you, George! I was so excited to see the results and the only thing that is here is a comment on anticipation.
: VolumeX : 4 years ago
^^ yes George, now I blame D.O., and the next person in the firing line will be me..... LOL
This had a big turn out and I'm sure the judges are having a field day.
(not).
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
That next person is me.
: VolumeX : 4 years ago
.. There were so many hot dragons, they 'fried' the judges. LOL.
^ sorry the next person is now me.
George G - 4 years ago
@erth&fiya - ah man, I really thought your comment was going to be 'the one' :(
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
Stop it, now!
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Magma guy 4 years ago
Yeah! He's right stop it!
: VolumeX : 4 years ago
... LOL, the three musker's trying to train a dragon...LOL
George G
Dues Otiosus
erth&fiya
Dr. Phoenix Posted 4 years ago. Edited by Dr. Phoenix (member) 4 years ago
You know...the judges might have meant THIS Saturday and Sunday as in March 10th and 11th. So maybe the beginning of next week?
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Deus "Big D." Otiosus 4 years ago
That would only be logical if they sent a message from the future. And if they were at it, they could just send the results from the future in the moment the contest ended.
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Siercon and Coral PRO 4 years ago
@ All:
True true, we are almost done! Sorry for the wait. I think you all can expect the results before tomorrow/after i get home from work :) You all built so well it made it hard ;) lol
: VolumeX : 4 years ago
Congrats to all the winners, this was great fun!
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