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P081809PS-0469 by The White House.
President Barack Obama meets with former President Bill Clinton in the Situation Room of the White House, including (from left ) NSC Senior Director for Asian Affairs Ambassador Jeff Bader, Deputy National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, NSC Advisor General Jim Jones and Vice President Joe Biden, August 18, 2009. The former President briefed President Obama on his recent trip to North Korea.

(Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)


This official White House photograph is being made available for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way or used in materials, advertisements, products, or promotions that in any way suggest approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House. 

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mausi310551  Pro User  says:

Superb photo !!!
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cglovesdogs(Way behind)  Pro User  says:

I love seeing these two work together......
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fPat  Pro User  says:

good expression on Clinton!

Protect your home...
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A.C.Thamer  Pro User  says:

It's fantastic to be able to see the collaboration and openness of the meeting going on, this photostream is a wonderful idea.
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antolozaZD  Pro User  says:

Muy bonita!
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joecrowaz  Pro User  says:

great shot as always Pete!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

They all look like they are bored to death....
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kennynsf says:

I love the expressions on Clinton, Obama and Biden's faces. A picture tells a thousand words. Let's hope it was a productive meeting.
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Tuturro says:

Would have loved to have been in that room!
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Richard-  Pro User  says:

Great image Pete. A historic trip for Clinton and I'm delighted these two are talking, even for a photo op alone.
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brookgarden says:

Who woulda thunk it -- Bill Clinton as elder statesman?
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Jacks Towne says:

Why are there no women? Is it not 2009?

Anyway, considering Obama felt the GOP of Gingrinch was the party of "ideas," I sure hope he doesn't continue the "triangulation" path that Clinton took. It's not 1994 anymore.
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scottwharden says:

Pure business. Great photo.
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edjane obama says:

Great,the dream team with the dream President!
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Digital Agent  Pro User  says:

excellent capture, love your work my friend, I appreciate being able to see these...:-))
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Food Fascist Flickr says:

Stop z balonie says Clinton to Barack. The Resurrected Clinton is just the man we need here. Barack is becoming too much the nerdy boy scout. We need a giant Eagle Scout at the command. Fortunately Barack is smart enough to seek mentorship.

The Republicans are 4 years olds with temper tantrums. You won't ever satisfy them, so forget them and pass the agenda everyone worked so hard to see passed. Clinton has the thick skin we need here.
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Food Fascist Flickr says:

test
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-fCh- says:

While Bill is around, why not ask him how he'd go for public option/single payer in healthcare?

Otherwise, beware Bill's worldwide speaking engagements!
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kunjoy says:

hehehe,,,,temu muka orang penting di AS
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Mike (a.k.a. Capt. Slow) says:

So that's what hard work and meaningful dialog look like. Nice!
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lady_and_lover69 says:

Just awesome pics so glad to see two pesidents in the sme room and on the same side GO OMBAMA
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geertfotografeert  Pro User  says:

It look if Bill is thé president...
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walshnurse says:

Hasn't someone thought about getting rid of those plastic water bottles in the white house? Come on guys!!! Be an example.
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soulsurvivorla says:

Amazing photo! It's amazing to see the brain trust in action. Thank God those a-holes of the past eight years are gone.
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Ahmed Awad Ellaban says:

Great Shot, Pete
www.facebook.com/pages/PETE-SOUZA-Chief-Offic ial-White-Ho...
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

ZZZZZZZZZZZZ Biden and the one sitting next to himZZZZZZZZZZZ ........I see a lot of yawning going on in this roomZZZZZzzzzzz

Early Alzheimer?
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Sumi-L  Pro User  says:

Looks like the president has on a new pair of kicks. Pete isn't it great just to sit back and take pictures of the president all over the world while hearing some of the most gruesome tales from around the world? Your stomach must be strong...nice shot
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GMH28 says:

If the topic is a briefing on the trip to NKorea, where is the Secretary of State? I mean, obviously she's probably heard all about it, but the optics of this "official" photo seem to undermine her official capacity. IMHO
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mrb0244  Pro User  says:

Pretty awesome Barack has such support!!! Unfortunately W did not have such support ;)
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Thatsanotherdory  Pro User  says:

Why does President Clinton require a name plate. Surely everyone sitting at the table know who he is?
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dianemariet: having computer problems :(  Pro User  says:

My two faves .... I am so proud of what he accomplished in N. Korea!
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dik Holidae  Pro User  says:

I have rarely been inspired by the bigger picture but here it is. The honeymoon is over I still am sending good vibes toward my men up on the Hill. Keep it going good men and women guiding this nation.
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Jordan Brock  Pro User  says:

BillC: "I once caught a fish this big"
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danfauchier says:

Why does President Clinton require a name plate? So he will know where to sit. He might just accidentally sit in the head chair and then how awkward would that be?
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Luke Dukem says:

hahaha, president Clinton is the only one in the room with a name plate, he always has to feel special. I would have loved to hear there conversation.
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wfm29588 says:

seems like most posting comments r drinking koolaid.
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clickeddy click says:

y is it called the situation room? is it as obvious as i think?
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jorge peidro  Pro User  says:

Good photo, they perfectly know how to pose.
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vtpeacenik  Pro User  says:

Clinton didn't accomplish anything in N. Korea.......he just went there for the photo op and to scoop up the credit. The real work was done behind the scenes by other people. That's how the story was first reported and I never hear Clinton correcting the misconception that HE did it.
The biggest reason why he went is because N.Korea is a male oriented society and that's who they wanted.
I don't blame Hilary for being insulted.
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prepress_monkey  Pro User  says:

Settle down everyone, plenty of Kool-Aid to go around.
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

Ho-Bo caught with his head WAY up his backside. Typical arrogance.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article /2009/08/18/...

Flippity flop, flippity flop...what's it going to be?

www.nypost.com/seven/08192009/news/nationalne ws/public_hu...

Keep it up...AARP loses 60,000 members!!! I guess they are all un-american and "evil mongers" as harry 'dumbass' reid refers to protesters.

www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-08-17-a arp-health-o...
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allr1  Pro User  says:

WOW, GOTTA LOVE THIS SHOT. sUPERIOR!
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

I am impressed by the higly expressive, and thus, interesting faces here.
Looks like former pres. Bill Clinton is briefing the boss indeed.
And president Barack Obama looks like the American Eagle himself listening...

;-)

Cheers from Belgium to all
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jdog1063 says:

Obama:
Yo, Bill!
Do you think we can use the vast right wing conspiracy rhetoric against the blue dog Democrats that won't vote for my health care bill?
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gina's view  Pro User  says:

thanks for sharing, great shot!
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mnm1505  Pro User  says:

great capture. well done!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Is this the U.S. or Afghanistan Taliban ?

www.pjtv.com/v/2332
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banksterbill says:

Obama is just a front man for the bankers who are robbing the USA blind.

The bailouts began as $700 billion and are now up to $23 trillion.

No transparency, no accountability.
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

Banksterbill; you may have your own experiences and reasons to think like you do, but may I just point out to that contradiction :
you say there is no transparency in today's American politics, and the next thing you are able to do is to name an exact amount of money used by the government...!

You should inform yourself how the country of the Russians for instance, was lead in the post war decades... it would clear your image of Barack Obama's America a lot.
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MrCanada says:

Christophe SHS,

Barack Obama is no more open than any other administration. And Barack Obama looks like an American Eagle? LOL. You really need to get your head out of the idealist sand you're trapped in. This photostream and the comments seen often "Oh Obama he's such a great leader" is a prime example of how uninformed the public is and how easily impressed they are with a smooth talking politician who in reality has done nothing special of note. George Bush was a horrible president, but Barack Obama is not much better. He promised no lobbyists=broke that promise. He promised to allow access to the White House visitor logs=broke that promise. Failing to end income tax for seniors making less than $50,000=broken promise. Now allowing five days of public comment before signing bills=broken promise. Not creating a $3,000 tax credit for companies that add jobs=broken promise. Not allowing penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009=broken promise. Not recognize the Armenian genocide=broken promise. Failing to negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN=broken promise. He promised to stop torture, but his own new CIA Director said he could not make such a promise=broken promise. Failed to close Guantanamo=Broken Promise
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jayvincent says:

Wonderful photo!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Obama tells you what he wants you to know.....and that is all you get.

He is trying to sell us socialism NOT health care. Health care is a Trojan horse. His purpose is CONTROL over you.

The health care you receive will not be the health care you think he is pushing.
The U.S. government is broke.
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A.C.Thamer  Pro User  says:

Yeah that's right Obama is evil! He want's to take care of the sick and tell everyone how much the the war in Iraq actually cost! EVIL!!! he's making death panels! EVIL! OH WAIT A MINUTE every time I say what he's doing it doesn't really sound all that evil. It sounds like the reasoned thinking of an educated man. Where were all these Idiots when the last administration was running this country into the ground? Oh that's right they were watching fox and getting the real truth from the people that got it all wrong for 8 long years. and six months into the new administration they're calling Obama evil. Obama is my President! For the people that think he is trying to kill you with healthcare wait till you get sick and your insurance let's you down then you'll wonder why we don't have reform.
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AndyFitz  Pro User  says:

Dear flickr, please un-censor all uploads of the joker/obama photo. its clearly parody.

www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/3834570613/

As a customer, I do not appreciate the denial of service to other members of your network
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

So, A.C.Thamer...you are saying that Ho-Bo is so smart that he does NOT realize that the health systems in the U.K. and Canada are imploding? I'm not sure if you are drunk on kool aid or just a complete moron.

Funny how you put ALL blame on the Bush administration for what has transpired of the past three years. This crap has been building for the past 30 plus years and yet in your short sight you lay complete blame on the last administration...hmm, who ran congress the last two years of that admin? I'm NOT defending Bush because I would love to kick his ass as well but I will not drink the kool aid and put all blame on him...there are PLENTY politicians on BOTH sides to hang.

Ho-Bo will be known in history as the worst president ever.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Obama Team: David Axelrod

Money from pharmaceutical firms and health care companies is dirty, evil, and corrupting – except when key members of Team Obama are pocketing it. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs derides grass-roots opponents of socialized health care as industry-funded lackeys with questionable motives and conflicts of interest. But what about the corporate shills at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

Two weeks ago, the White House embraced $150 million in drug industry ads supporting Obamacare. This week, Bloomberg News reported that White House senior adviser and chief campaign strategist David Axelrod’s former public relations firm, AKPD Message and Media, has raked in some $24 million in ad contracts supporting Obamacare – along with another p.r. firm, GMMB, run by other Obama strategists.

The ads are funded by Big Pharma, the AARP, AMA, and the powerhouse Services Employees International Union (whose Purple Shirts dumped $80 million in independent expenditures to get Obama and the Democrat
For more, go here: michellemalkin.com/
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MrCanada says:

LOL. Umm Hey AC THamer. I have the universal health care in my country and it has let me down. Don't be fooled into thinking it's the answer. It really sucks to need surgery and have to wait years for it.
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fcu2009 says:

这个不错，给人看到奥巴马平民的一面，非常自由和自然。在中国这是不可能的，特别他在克林顿面前 翘起二郎腿。
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Goldenboi24k  Pro User  says:

so serious !
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A.C.Thamer  Pro User  says:

Your right it does suck to have to wait for it. It sucks more to be insured and pay your families premiums for years and years and them when your mother needs surgery to save her life you find out that it's not covered and the false sense of security you have had all those years was just that false. So you basically paid these people for services that they do not render when called upon to do so because you had a pre-existing condition that went undiagnosed because there aren't any symptoms until it reaches stage fucking four and then by that time it's almost too late to do anything and the private insurance death panel decides that you are not covered so good luck. WHEW!

I don't blame president stupid for everything that went wrong just the things that he did. When the people that were banging the drum for all the fabulous things he did to get us where we are turn around and start calling the new guy the devil for things he didn't do and had no choice but to try and correct I find it disingenuous. If you are in a car and the driver is heading for a cliff and every one is telling him to turn the wheel, and at the last second he jumps out and somebody else grabs the wheel don't complain if he turns the wheel to late, or say you could have done a better job if you were sitting in the back seat the entire time telling the first driver to step on the gas!

I apologize for going on a rant this is not the place. I'm a photographer this is flickr you are all my flickr friends So peace out and think whatever you like. It's what makes our country great.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Americans don't have the money to pay for socialist health care but we do have a kind of socialist health care for those over 65 and for the poor.
Medicare and Medicaid, which needs to be run more efficiently. It would cost a lot less to overhaul what we have now than to create a whole new system of health care.
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Peeceful says:

This picture is embematic of how collaboration is the smart way to get things done. If you're a smart person (like Bill Clinton), know how to get stuff done (like Bill Clinton), and have a heart for the American people (like Bill Clinton), President Obama wants you on his team.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

PEECEFUL, you are being sold a phony piece of propaganda by the best "snake oil salesmen" in the world, Clinton and Obama
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banksterbill says:

USA = police state, run by military-industrial complex.

The transformation to fascism started long ago, was expanded under Bush due to 9/11 (which was an inside job), and now Obama is expanding it further.
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MrCanada says:

What's interesting AC Thamer is that you think somehow Obama is "turning the wheel away from the cliff". He isn't.
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

Peeceful = moron w/head burried in sand
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Senator DeMint on "We the People vs. "I won" mentality of Obama.

In 2001, when Obama called the U.S. Constitution “a charter of negative liberties,” he didn’t mean it as a compliment. “It says what the states can’t do to you, says what the federal government can’t do to you. But it doesn’t say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf.”

Obama was wrong on that last point. Article IV of the Constitution lays out in very specific terms exactly what the federal government and state government “must do on your behalf”: for instance, the federal government must protect the states from foreign invasion or violent insurrection.

What President Obama meant is not that the Constitution fails to mandate government action, but that it fails to mandate enough, to satisfy his gargantuan ambitions. And so he daily goes about his business of rewriting America’s social contract, not by amending the Constitution, but by ignoring it all together.
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S. Middlebrook  Pro User  says:

AGAIN the community rules, that we must ALL follow:

Do play nice.
We're a community of many types of people, who all have the right to feel comfortable and who may not think what you think, believe what you believe or see what you see. So, be polite and respectful in your interactions with other members.

Don’t
vent your frustrations, rant, or bore the brains out of other members.
Flickr is not a venue for you to harass, abuse, impersonate, or intimidate others. If we receive a valid complaint about your conduct, we’ll send you a warning or terminate your account.
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

S. diddlebrook: ever heard of 'fascism?' Here, since you find it necessary to post the community rules yet again, I will post the description of fascism:

1. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

2. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.

3. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Ho-Bo and his ilk most likely seen flickr as a great way to push their propaganda while the dissenting opinions would be deleted/removed which would equal fascism. I believe, those who oversee what is posted on flickr realize this and have made an exception to this particular photostream. I, personally, applaud yahoo/flickr if this is the case.

Plus, it is really easy to NOT read something that is posted here. Now go enjoy the weekend. :)
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

middlebrook, you should pay more attention to "Do not BORE" I guess as long as the comments are full of flowery words and pro Obama, it's not boring to you. Well, I got news for you...it's very BORING.
So please do not bore those who are not falling at the feet of the Obama's. You will be breaking flickr rules.
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

Mr Canada; thank you for responding to my impressions of the photo. Please visit my stream too, for White House photo's and my comments and extracts. I must say, thank you, you listed a series of decisions by president Barack Obama that you don't like. I like concrete information like that. Now I can see what you mean, what are your motives. I am sorry, but don't you underestimate the load of being president to a country like the US of A? HAve you ever tried to imagine yourself in the President's shoes? To look through his eyes? Hear through his ears... And have you, and a few people with you, not been all to naive, to expect that some measures that Barack Obama has planned to make when running for the Oval Office, would be possible immediately, easlily? Don't you realize the White House has Home Rules, that even a new president cannot just change like he would want? (Like on the Log and on admitting five days comments on new laws). Should'nt you look at the general picture, the intentions, the direction of the new policies? Then I presume you will have to agree that CHANGE HAS COME. This man is so much more honest than the former presidents. I am sure he has a much sharper intellegence. A far better listening ear. A hugely higher emotional intelligence... Just give the president time. His talents will work for the US of A. It is too easy, to decline attention from domestic problems by starting two wars somewhere in the world, like others have chosen to do before him.
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

PS. I love America very much. Your culture comes over here (Europe) with so many good stuff, from Holllywood stories to Sinatra and Miles Davis. My father has lived and died the last twenty one years of his life in Washington DC. And: as an ornithologist I know all about birds, especially those of the genus Haliaethus…! ;-)
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S. Middlebrook  Pro User  says:

cplphot and vitalissue, I do not call you out for your boring misinformation and obvious ignorance. I call you out for insulting people who have different viewpoints than your own.

Name calling is what the uneducated to to get attention.

AND to both of you, let me use your words.....

"It is really easy to NOT read something that is posted here. Now go enjoy the weekend. :) "

If you don't like the folks that come here to comment on these pictures or the president, you too can go away.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Well middlebrook, Look who is calling the kettle black

I can't count how many insults I have been called on this photostream...All because I disagree and nothing more. Just telling the truth.
Are you blind and see only what you want to see?
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Ah, I see S Chris knows all about America from watching Hollywood movies....Now I understand.
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S. Middlebrook  Pro User  says:

Vitalissue, I did not call you any names, I just asked for people to follow the rules.

For me its not because you disagree, its because you call people koolaid drinkers, idiots, stupid, moron, un-american, facist, socialist, communist, the list goes on......

State your point without insults, people might actually listen.

And for the record, I am disgusted by eveyone insulting each other.
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Richard-  Pro User  says:

Please people. Learn. Don't feed trolls. Period.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

un-American, and swastikas, middlebrook, you are now speaking of Obama and Palosie...just as I said...you are blind.

Kool aid drinkers? yes I plead guilty. You will know what I mean one day.
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

@Richard: thank you for your advise; I like you view on things... Last week I was in Ostend, a port at our Belgian Court; I visited a boat museum, and then bought some fresh fish lunch; a gull game to me, wishing to share in the meal; I threw the animal some scraps that it took eagerly; I noticed though, that some people looked at me with some wonder; a minute later, I discovered the first of many big boards with a pic of a gull eating aggressively, crossed by a red line; there was an explanation: "Don't feed the Birds" "the text read: "When you feed them, there come to many; they are sea and shore animals, they find enough food there; they can become aggressive when people start feeding them"; then they feel spoiled, and want more and more... & will not accept a 'no'..
Speaking of Gulls, speaking of Trolls...
So thank you, Richard, for your sound advice. But my mother has thought me to love and respect animals, those funny and cute Lower Creatures… I tend to believe they are inhabited by a Soul too! And I remember so well how Mother used to listened to my myriads of naïve toddler questions, which she answered with endless patience :D ' Guess we have the Didactical Gene in our Family. – After all, on the other hand, in the future I might wish to receive the Trolls presence just like that, and answer it with silence; I guess Peace of Mind is such a Treasure; like you prove in your photostream, profile and artistic work.
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WinaVD  Pro User  says:

Excellent shot!!
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ـــاريAlAmmariالعـمـــ  Pro User  says:

Great shot

I like this guy ...
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mar11ia says:

Bill Clinton = greatest president ever
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MrCanada says:

Christophe SHS
"HAve you ever tried to imagine yourself in the President's shoes? To look through his eyes? Hear through his ears... "

Sure I have. Like I said, I never liked Bush either, but not a whole lot of people did NOT put themselves in his shoes when he was making the decision to go to war. Did you? Why do you get so trusting and teary-eyed when it comes to Obama?

"Don't you realize the White House has Home Rules, that even a new president cannot just change like he would want? (Like on the Log and on admitting five days comments on new laws). "

Obama could have easily started such a comment program right away. His website was put into effect the moment he took the oath.

"Should'nt you look at the general picture, the intentions, the direction of the new policies? Then I presume you will have to agree that CHANGE HAS COME. "

What change?


"This man is so much more honest than the former presidents."

He is? He lied about not allowing lobbyists. He lied about closing Guantanamo Bay. He lied about not wanting a single payer health care system. And you watch, he will have lied about not raising taxes as well.

"I am sure he has a much sharper intellegence. "

So what? I've known very well educated people who couldn't make decent leadership decisions because they lacked other qualities.

"It is too easy, to decline attention from domestic problems by starting two wars somewhere in the world, like others have chosen to do before him. "

George Bush didn't start 2 wars. He started one - - Iraq. The other war was started by someone else. Bin Laden declared war on the US and attacked us. So we entered the war and invaded Afghanistan.
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MrCanada says:

Richard,

Kool Aid drinkers and trolls are equally as bad.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Liberman suggest the health care bill be discontinued until the economy is in better shape.

I agree with that because it will give all of us more time to rewrite the 1018 page health bill to a more reader friendly way of understanding exactly what is in the Bill.
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「Zealot」  Pro User  says:

像看美国大片（独立日？ 变形金刚2？）
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

Here's the number one comeback: "It's Bush's fault." No matter what the problem is or how long it had been building up, "Its Bush's fault." And Ho-Bo makes statement after statement on "What he inherited." "the previous administration" "we didn't realize it was so bad" WTF? YOU are the president A-hole!!! Pull your head from you ass and do what is RIGHT and GOOD for the country!!!

What the heck happened to COMMON SENSE?!!!
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Sumi-L  Pro User  says:

I wish you ignorant ass hats would keep your political pains out of the comments. If I want to hear your political BS I would read huffpo or faux snooze. Enjoy the art and shut the F**k up! I bet most of you hacks probably sit on your arse and complain eating bom boms and sh1t...boo whoooo! This is about Pete's work not if you like or dislike the president and his policies...ever hear of whitehouse.gov?
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MrCanada says:

Dearest Sumi,

Then why don't you say the same to people who post stuff like "This man is a true leader!!!!" . . . . and . . . "Obama is looking into this situation unlike the last president" and crap like that.

Seriously, people only get upset when people say bad things about Obama, yet when they post their idealistic supportive political comments, all of the sudden it's OK? I think not.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Big Brother will punish you for not having" Health Insurance"

Taxing Your Mere Existence
August 17, 2009, by Legal Insurrection

As set forth in my prior post, IRS The New Health Care Enforcer, the new tax provisions in the Senate and House draft health care bills tax people for failing to obtain acceptable health coverage. These taxes are crucial to implementing a health care mandate (which Barack Obama said during the primary he was against) whereby the power to tax compels people to obtain coverage. (YOU MUST OBEY) So this is why he wants our bank account numbers!

www.frugal-cafe.com/public_html/frugal-blog/f rugal-cafe-b...
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

Sumi the fascist. This account is NOT about some photographer's art. This is politics pure and simple. Perhaps with all that hatred you have for those who dissent you may want to seek councelling to help you get through it.

Here's another a-hole politician making an ass of herself:

www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/healt hcare/la-me-...

And these are our elected officials...pathetic.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

Maxine Waters....She and Barney Frank said in 2003...NOTHING IS WRONG with Fannie Mae and Freddie MAC, when Bush was trying to regulate the subprime mortgage give away to people who didn't have a pot to piss in. Maxine and Barney knew this. Those are two evil people and the reason we are in this economic downturn
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

Sumi: thank you for coming in; I also sometimes almost loose my temper here, or my hope!
@mr. Canada:
You ask if I have put myself in the shoes of president Bush when he had to make the decision on starting a (revenge) war ? Yes, actually I did; the proof of that is to be found in the boxes that where taken out of the White House on Inauguration day, January 20 of this year: I have written several letters to president Bush junior. I have tried to be with him when he was in those dire days.

For the rest I cannot see what you mean: how can you see lies in what president Barack Obama does? How can you not see and feel the Change that has come?

I can feel and see it even in the streets here, in Europe, on the other shore of the Atlantic. For instance in the attention that goes to emotional intelligence, to ethics, to respect for colored people. I can see it in the new pride the people with African roots take in themselves; and that is a good thing. They are genetically the craddle of Mankind, but have not received the due honor. On the contrary! Obama's honest attitude is an inspiration for millions of people that have the honor and pleasure to live in the same historic era as he does.
Wishing you a good day, and much fun with photo's on Flickr.
Stefaan
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

@AC. Thamer: thank you for your testimonial how it sometimes (often?) goes completely wrong with health care in your country,the US. I appreciate your indignation. I am sure a Word of Truth like yours makes a difference; it helps to shift the rudder of the culture, the steerwheel of the Ship of Society. Let us continue to display that great combination of human talents that 'our' president Barack Obama embodies: keeping a cool head and a warm heart! ! !
Kind Regards from Belgium, a small country with a great past and an even greater future.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 2009 says:

2004 when Bush was trying to regulate Fannie and Freddie:

Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA): I think it is clear that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are sufficiently secure so they are in no great danger... I don't think we face a crisis; I don't think that we have an impending disaster. ...Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac do very good work, and they are not endangering the fiscal health of this country.

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA): I have sat through nearly a dozen hearings where, frankly, we were trying to fix something that wasn't broke. [sic] ...These GSEs have more than adequate capital for the business they are in: providing affordable housing. As I mentioned, we should not be making radical or fundamental change... If there is anything to fix or improve, it is the [regulators].
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Sumi-L  Pro User  says:

"Sumi is fascist." LMAO!

CPL you are miserable and YOU don't know me. I'm far from a politician, as a matter of fact I had come to erase my message, but I decided against it. I tell you what... since your choice word is ass how bout you KISS MINE!

Mr. Canada I'm not upset that people are saying bad things about President Obama that is the nature of politics...some love you and others despise you. I don't come here for the 'comments' and I didn't take any of the photos here... However, I got your attention and few others. My job is done.
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

Straight from Ho-Bo's crap spewer that were actually full out lies, half truths and/or flip flops:

www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opini on/columnist...

www.nelsonguirado.com/index.php/asymmetric/20 08/07/09/com...

hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/obama-presser- does-obama-p...

michellemalkin.com/2008/08/18/lies-damned-abo rtion-lies-a...

www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLies.htm

Just do a google search or some other type of search on "Obama lies" or "Obama flip flops" and you tell me he doesn't lie or blur the truth and flip flop.

He's going to go down in flames and he will drag the rest of those A-hole dems with him...hopefully, many of the repubs will go as well.
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cplphoto  Pro User  says:

Sumi:
LOL...hmm, that kind of sounds tempting. ;) The reason why I refered to you as a 'fascist' is because you want EVERYONE that has a dissenting opinion to shut up and go away...that's simply not right which I'm sure you know. I do have to thank you for making me laugh, greatly appreciated. I would prefer that we were all wrong and that our president was doing what is best for our country but those of us on here with a dissenting opinion truly do not believe he is doing right by any of America's citizens.
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S. Middlebrook  Pro User  says:

CPL AGAIN with the name calling? Is this all you know to do? Do I need to post the rules again?

How about this- BULLY, which is what you are. Your name calling only shows your lack of education. This is not a political site, paid for b y the government this is Flickr. And yes to many Photography is art.

REAL men discuss thing in a civil manner. ADULTS with good breeding do not lower themselves to name calling.

So again with the rules:

Do play nice.
We're a community of many types of people, who all have the right to feel comfortable and who may not think what you think, believe what you believe or see what you see. So, be polite and respectful in your interactions with other members.

Don’t
vent your frustrations, rant, or bore the brains out of other members.
Flickr is not a venue for you to harass, abuse, impersonate, or intimidate others. If we receive a valid complaint about your conduct, we’ll send you a warning or terminate your account.
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Scot Patrijspoort  Pro User  says:

... This is an awe inspiring photo; let us not forget to view it in large, in between the "talking" ;p
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