Why Your Camera Does Not Matter

love this..kinda like the red..wild side..but love also the b n w...your just fab

I know it is very long, but very interesting
So read it with more convenience, click here
www.kenrockwell.com/tech/notcamera.htm

Sé que es muy largo , pero vale la pena. Su traducción en castellano acá--> www.kenrockwell.com/tech/notcamera-es.htm

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.SANCHEZ. says:

interesting
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

B℮n says:

Woh,,, long scroll :)

Yeah why? Camera's are still primitive!
GRTZ,BEN
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

ignacio toccalino otero says:

linda foto..
y muy interesante lo qe escribiste..por suerte en castellano porqe mi ingles es malisimo:P
Las fotos de Ansel son buenisimas!!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Perfect Line says:

ves por que te digo maestra, gracias y linda foto.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Flickrawi says:

Wonderful photography
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

birdbath says:

nice words. enjoyed reading this.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

deeplydubbed [deleted] says:

thanks for the post, i totally agree! i think that mentality is across the board on all types of art, be it drawing, fashion, film, etc.

i tend to separate photographers into two categories, those who are the technical gadget types, and those who use the lens to achieve their creative idea. and i guess those in between. personally, i prefer those who only use the lends as a tool, i think they make for a more passionate photograph.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

ALFONSO SANCHEZ says:

Wowww increiblee tus trabajoss .
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

J.T.R. says:

I could not agree more. My Leica broke in Venice, Italy. Yes, I got some great, great stuff from that. My Holga soldiered on, and it was much easier to make something original with the Holga than it was with the Leica. Because the Holga is hard to work with.

So my show in 2008 will be mostly the Holga stuff. I did not bother to fix the Leica for a year.

But good old humans made the staircase at Loretto Chapel in Santa Fe.

;-)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Dan Lilly says:

I saw an exhibit of some of Ansel's work at the Center For Creative Photography last month in Tucson, Arizona. (my home town)

He has a famous picture of the moon over a small New Mexico town. Ansel shot the photo in the 40's but did not get the final version of the print that we all know until the 70's.

Ansel was HUMAN photoshop. He came up with the zone system of printing.

In his will, Ansel left all of his negatives to the Center For Creative Photography where serious, and talented, students are actually able to use them to make prints on rare occasion.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Christopher Greenwood says:

This is common knowledge for the true imagineer. Unfortunately it still must be said. Thanks V
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

tshane says:

True. This is exactly what makes photography an art.

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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Lars WWW says:

Thank you.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

J.T.R. says:

Dan-when in Santa Fe, at a gallery on San Fransisco street, there was a vintage print of what you describe: "Moonrise Hernandez". About $100k.

The guy selectively selenium toned the NEGATIVE for that. And then making that print is as much ballet in the darkroom as chemistry.

You are right-he was Human Photoshop!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

MadmàT says:

i couldn't read it all, but i loved the words ! great "huge" quote !
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

mici_angora says:

didn't read the whole thing, but I got the point. I shot everything with one lens. There are numerous people here with "the best" equipment and tens of lenses, but their pictures simply suck :D
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

dailyinvention says:

I've read that article before and very much agree. I used to be part of that same school of thought that believed that it was all about the camera, but after seeing people making beautiful works of art here on Flickr using a point-and-shoot camera changed my mind.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

ANOXLOU says:

ansel adams had and 8 X 10 camera that's why
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

[Ligeia] says:

Wow! Totalmente de acuerdo con el texto
Sin imaginacion no hay foto.
Mis fotos no son una maravilla, pero teniendo una camara bastante sencillita hago cosas que parecen gustar :)

por cierto, me encanta la exprisividad de tus ojos

gracias por compratir este articulo
xxx
Eva
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Monku ! says:

amen sistah
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Monku ! says:

cept I cant stand Rockwell
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Carlos Sillero says:

Si jo estoi de acuerdo tambiem!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Kary Reef says:

que genial!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Miss Polly Poker says:

que hermosa que eres
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

CiaoChessa says:

sisi, definitivamente vale la pena leerlo.
ademas, preciosa foto.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

darrenstone says:

Amen amen amen!!!!!!! Great art is what you do!!!!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Saga says:

This article is so great.
I remember first when I began photographing I was obsessed to get the best and the " right" equipment and improve my photoshopskills, now I just photograph what I think is beautiful and I don't care if it hasn't the most perfect photoshop or shot with the greatest camera or lenses, I want my photographs to show my personality and have their own identity. This is a great article, thank you for posting it Vorfas. And keep on posting your wonderful photos.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Nick Hoffman says:

funny i forgot about this. but its a great read. Ken has a good site.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

S.A. Young says:

Thank you for posting this, Salomé. I take photos with a Holga and a old Yashica. As much as I want a Leica or Hasselblad, I know they won't make me a better photographer. I'll just be a photographer with a different tool that I can use.
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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

deSouzaLima says:

Thank you, thanks Ken!!!
Great both!!!
Kss
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

mensaka says:

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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Chris28mm says:

Ken Rockwell stated that very well.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Rob Boudon says:

Finally, that's the best chunk of text I've read in a long time. The picture is nice too.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

ecamcito says:

Fabulosa y un texto realmente muy interesante.

MENAGERIE gothic statements

Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

KaptainKaveman says:

You looks so very beautiful here my love, lol. And it's so very unfair that you do so far away, lol.

(and now that I have "shamelessly" manipulated your attention, lol) ~
It astounds me that a Canon Mark III, 85mm EOS L series lens and photoshopped image of an offside frame, sidewalk vanishing to a sunset horizon will get more views and comments THAN a cheap "tourists" Walmart film camera shot of the exact same image on flickr, lol. So many artistic streams out there and hardly a peep in them from the flickr nation. I have a lot of work hidden from view because this trend. Afterall, I like the weird angle, cheap camera, washed out shots. I keep it for me and that's all that matters. Flick is photo storage for me cus I don't own a home computer right now.

It's true that I am goal oriented myself toward a Canon 5D Mark II and the updated 85mm L series prime lens (when they both come out next year). And a Mac computer with Photoshop programs, studio lights, blah, blah, lol. Dream on, lol.

HOWEVER! It is my hope that I don't depend on those things too heavily. For now I rather enjoy the discovery of trying to figure out how to trick my humble little 2MP IXY and 6MP Canons into conveying my abstract mind of twisted colors, light, angles and realities as I want it seen. Because I've lost the the ability to draw it all 20 years ago.

Sadly, I think the more technically tuned images get closer to what the human eye sees and it's natural human instinct to be drawn into that somehow. Anything outside of that is "usually" more of an artistic venue. And unfortunatley in the time consuming practicality of just living, working and surviving~ many artistic compositional images from cheaper/older technology tends to get a back seat in a LONG senior citizen bus.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

sicoactiva says:

De acuerdo con el texto. Y al leerlo se fortalece en mí la idea de lo talentosa que sos y la gran admiración que siento por tu trabajo.

Saludos.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

ale.giagnoni says:

Lo ví en tu fotolog, y como no tenía espacio para firmar me lo encontré aca. :)

La verdad 10 puntos el texto, es muy de verdad...

A mi me molesta bastante cuando dicen: ''Qué buena cámara!", "Qué cámara tenés?" o "Amo tu cámara!!!"

Pero nadie se da cuenta que si prendés la cámara y la dejas quieta, no va a hacer nada, sino que el que funcionar la cámara es uno...

Y te dejo un excelentísimo ejemplo: tenemos la misma cámara, pero tus fotos y tu creatividad le llevan años luz a la mía. :)

Así que FUCKOFF a los que piensan que la cámara lo es todo! :P jajaj

besote salo!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Dario Maurelli says:

yo siempre lo digo:
no es lo que tienes ..........es como lo usas!
sino con un par de billetes todos seriamos unos fotografos excelentes
o no?
Ahora bien........si debo ser realista...aunque las mejores fotos las he hecho con un telefono movil de apenas 2 megapixeles eso es solamente porque no tenia mi camara conmigo......la foto es la oportunidad de hacerla , y despues se esfumo el momento....no hay mas foto, la luz no es la misma, la gente se fue,el sol se escondio , o lo que sea..........el tema es que una foto es el tiempo que tardo el diafragma en dejar pasar la luz y despues ...nada
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

beebe_gzb says:

Hey...that was Great!

I love it when someone tells me their cell phone has better resolution than my camera. My answer..."This old camera talks to me and I listen". After this fabulous read, I'll add that "Photoshop is my Southern accent".

Serious thanks for a righteously compelling statement.

Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

gary isaacs' photos says:

at the risk of stating the obvious let's keep in mind that as we tear down one set of "false idols" we don't unconsciously or righteously errect another set - plasics cameras and cell phones and lomos etc. don't make better images or better photographers either. best case an artist is able to work with the tools that they feel give them the most ability to express themselves and to create their vision - some artists "have" to get buy with what they have available and if their vision is strong the results seem to be just fine - other artist like ansel adams are lucky enough to be able to use whatever they feel like and their work seems to be just fine too . . . .

correct. the camera doesn't make the photographer whether it's expensive or cheap . . . . . . crap and brilliance come out of both.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Barrybar says:

Amen!

Here's the staircase, in a church in Santa Fe, built by Jesus's dad. The rail was added later because the nuns were nervous to climb the stairs. Actually, nobody seems to know, except Ken Rockwell, who built it.

Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

CHAD COOMBS [deleted] says:

word up. ha

nice, i couldnt agree more, i prefer my holga and polaroid images anyday.

im totally posting this on mine, hope you dont mind.
hopefully all the people that buy cameras from me at the shop i work at will get my drift when i say this at work, the company owner feels other wise, ha
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

heather-joy says:

that's been one of my favorite articles for a long time. i'd glad you posted it here!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

kevindooley says:

Thank you so much for posting this. This is the best essay I have read on Flickr in a long time.

To me what so exciting about your message was not that technology does or doesn't matter, but that it's all about creativity. And from viewing your portfolio for the first time, I can see that you certainly practice what your preach.

Digital matters to me simply because of cost. I like to take shots without "viewfinding" them, and digital technology allows me to take 49 awful shots and 1 hopeful one.

Keep up the good ideas Ken!

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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

OuroborosX says:

ansel adams didn't have eyes like yours... you are really the most amazing woman i've ever seen... and an unmatched talent... the jewel of flickr in my opinion... :)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

London.J [deleted] says:

Hermosisimo y muy original autoretrato!!
excelente!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

★MARICE★ says:

well said, gary isaacs' photos you stated exactly what I was thinking and feeling, only you wrote it better.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

.Donkeykong. says:

Vorfas, thanks for positng this....essay. I find myself being one who loves gadgets, and I do fall into the trap of bigger, better, more modern, and it has cost me a pretty penny along the way.

I wouldn't have found this article/narrative had you not incorporated it into your photostream, and for that I am grateful. You just helped me keep $500+ in my pocket for the time being. Thanks, and please, as usual, keep up the brilliant work.
-Mark
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Vichi . says:

por supuesto, y que linda que andas !
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

na.trash says:

Hey, beautiful txt.
exactisimo.
y vos preciosa!

saludos! (L)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Alpozzi Alberto says:

WOW Explore! Congrats!
Fantastic capture! Istant fave!

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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

kgaeke says:

I am so glad I read this. Thank you.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Tangent~Artifact, here sometimes :) says:

Yes, thanks for posting this text. It seems obvious, could be edited to be shorter (thanks god he's not a writer :) but give so many good examples... I was stunned by the Haas quote "Best wide-angle lens? 'Two steps backward' and 'look for the ah-ha'." Almost word for word, this is what popped into my mind rather recently, when I definitely couldn't get the right angle I had in mind. And I found it so stupid of me not having immediately thought about it... :)

Now, there are quite a lot of little things new cameras allows us to do and experiment, than the older ones lacked. Just one example, street photography with the ability to shoot 10 pictures in one second - it's convenient, but also a real tool to some. But then, if none of the 10 shots is good, you're more to blame than if you hadn't this feature available to you. So, actually, I think these new features represent an even greater challenge. Same thing with Photoshop. Now we can do more, go deeper, experiment more easily. Well, if we don't...

You image: The right illustration of the words. Now what that could mean, hehe? :) Kidding. I like it.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

MAZme❥DreAmY says:

WOW
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

８−ＢｉｔＦｕｊｉｋｏｎ。 says:

great shot!! stay TRUE TO FILM!!!! AHAHA
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

vkvarma_00001 says:

You are looking very dangour.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Erick Loitière (OQP | Busy) says:

It's always a problem of point of view and difference in sensitivity between the photographer and the viewer. Good gears help you to spend less time in post processing and have a technically clean shot but not an artistic picture which is depend of angle of view, composition, .... and so much things that's personnal to everyone.

Anyway, I'm a big fan of your pictures, they are very good technically and have that "things" that make them art.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

jaciii (off&on) says:

Happily seen in Explore at 7:00 a.m. CST TEXAS U.S.A. on 12-09-07
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

just for fun ^^ says:

this is an amazing shot!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

A.Denomay says:

what a stunning post-processing! :]
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

MrClean1982 says:

I agree with the commentary 100%
Gorgeous shot too!
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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

schneiderlotte says:

Yeah your in explore and the whole flickerers can read it now
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

♦kth♦ says:

Couldn't agree more with those words...
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

boyita says:

Cool. Teach me.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Proverbs 31:10 says:

Cool shot, congrats on Explore front page!!! ;)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

//Reeve\\ says:

I agree! but!!!...Ansel(as the other artist at this time) didn't used digital imagin. So he didn't needed to have such things. The most problem today is that everybody can have "cameras". So everybody can be photoartist:( The most important things are lossing from todays potographers(mostly from the amatures) the seeing, the feeling the pitcure. The true vision of beeing an artist is geting lost in the numbers!
Megapixels, optical range, Photoshopp(the black chamber of today photographer).
We can say that just the equipment style has changed(turned into digital as everything today) but the people on the othet side(side of the viewfinder) of a camera changed the most! And I think here is the biggest problem.
The camera doesn't mater. Its just a piece of plastic that helps YOU to make your image. The photographer counts! Not the camera.
And Ken Rockwell...he's got a really intressting style:)
but I love his writings
(sorry, when I wrote something wrong! My english is not perfect!)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

lunαs|YongXin| says:

I agree.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Ms.Antiorder says:

Vorfas, you kick ass.

Well said.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

BathtubJunkie [deleted] says:

Love it. Thank you *so* much for writing this. I really enjoyed reading it. You rock.

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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

underflo says:

love the rant. probably more than the image. i think the most important thing is to be passionate about what you do.

the camera is just the boundaries in which we must work in.

not sure about the ken rockwell part at the end. is this a quote from him? all or just part?
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

PeQño TucHo's says:

Seeee nena!!!!!!
Amen!!!!!!
PD: Esa foto es exelente!!!!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

achuka says:

cool sp and extract
especially as I eschew nikon & canon ;)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

jassal1989 says:

Jag
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

[ K a y ] [deleted] says:

GENIAL!!! NENA SOS UNA IDOLA :D
me encanta como te kedan los colores oscuros, o mas malignos ^^
besos hermosa
KAYLA
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Justin Fyk'd says:

amen.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

i'm so pale, goddamn says:

siempre le das en el tema de mi semana.. si, escribi sobre eso hace unos dias pero no fui tan certera, precisa y justa como el/la que escribió eso.
verdaderamente, aplausos..(muchos)
me enferman todos aquellos que dejan mensajes como "uuuh, no cualquiera tiene una d80/una xti", o "te envidio la camara" y demas idioteces, porque es verdad, cada vez que veo imagenes de ansel adams me hago pis y no entiendo como es que cada vezmas gente adquiere mejores equipos que no sabe usar de modo artistico, si bien saben todas las funciones, no lo aprovechan. una verdadera lastima.

(estoy muy drormida querida jajaj)
sigo leyendo (me quede por lamitad)
y mi comentario es muy estupido asique ignoralo
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

nicola cipriani says:

very nice portrait indeed. really artistic and nice compo!

Your fantastic portrait picture is my winner!
Please add this photo to
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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

fenryswlf says:

Wonderful essay.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

shadowbox says:

amen!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

alexfel says:

Sos grande! Vorfas!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

sarafaus says:

preciosa chica y muy buena foto
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

aRISSa* says:

"Leica, schmeica. The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE." esto es lo mejor.

gracias por compartir el texto y tus imágenes.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

.Luc. says:

muy buen post
esto aplica a casi todas las actividades humanas...
pero nos seguimos maravillando con cada cosita nueva que sale, olvidandonos de lo importante...
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

KaurFlicks says:

Brilliant. Very well put!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

patricio33_mdp says:

divina ..me encantan tus fotos ¡¡ segui asi miles de besos¡¡¡
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maximorgana says:

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maximorgana says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called reflected self portraits, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

sayzey says:

Wow I read all that, just about the longest comment I have seen on Flickr, it made sense, and made me think a bit about that new camera I've just bought!

One thing though, the links dont work, I would have liked to visit some of them.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Ana Santos says:

I agree with you on Ansel Adams. I went to Yosemite and learned all about him. He's amazing. Explore Front Page.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

racingsquirrel says:

The monotone and the colour sides of this are brilliant. Love the activity in the background that complements the many layers of the dress and the painted face. Dramatic. As seen on Explore Front Page.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

queenjane1235 says:

This is an absolutely marvelous photograph! (One hell of a long post though.)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

.: sandman says:

Great shot!

Oh... and Ken Rockwell speaks truth.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

blue_i's says:

well, I was going to write a really long comment............but then thought ......why? I enjoyed the reading and of course this recent post! As with much of your work, I enjoy the element of surprise that you offer more times than not. Really love the sides on this one!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

lechecondensada says:

muchacha te vengo siguiendo de hace tiempo largo, y cada dia sos mas grosa.. realmente mis felicitaciones, vas a llegar lejos (L)
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

entOptic says:

Ansel used a negative the size of a sheet of paper and often did not carry his own equipment....at oxbow bend he had a 40 foot tower built (did not build himself).. He was an ICON, possibly the best ever! I think what he had was the best eye, and patience no longer available in this day and age because you can't buy it in a store, online, and they definitely don't accept American Express.

Great capture i guess.......the subject is why it came out well.
if that Cannon is giving you any trouble, I'd be glad to take it off your hands!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

MOVED TO PIXELENS FOLLOW ME THERE! says:

Interesting photo - very interesting read as well!

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Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Philippe S says:

Gorgeous portrait and VERY PERFECT COMMENTS. Thank you Salomé for these very necessary words.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

Noli & Provoste says:

Me encanta la actutid en la foto!!! te ves tan pero tan malaaaaaa!!! la edicion te quedo preciosa... ese pelo rojo es la mas!!!

Y el texto es increible, mas verdadero imposible... lastima que la gente no tienda a pensar asi, pero por suerte mas de una vez hemos hablado de este tema y coincidimos plenamente.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

boom.kill says:

Lep fotoaparat
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

angel pastor says:

bravo!

I will copy your entire caption and will learn it by heart!

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