Excellent question Espressobuzz. The answer
is likely because it's a steam ship. There
is not much interest in steam technology for
cruise ships any longer, largely because of
the potential for
explosions/accidents/pandemonium.
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I wanted to make you aware that the SSI was
recently sold and is to leave the US under
tow to be scrapped in India- I might add
illegally by NCL- Here is the information on
this important piece of US maritime History.
One of the United States last 2 Trans
Atlantic Ships one the SS
INDEPENDENCE/OCEANIC- the other The SS UNITED
STATES- are both owned by NCL/Star Cruise
Line.
The reason I am emailing you is the SS
INDEPENDENCE/OCEANIC is currently at Mare
Island, is to be removed from there in the
next 2 weeks- possibly sooner to go to India-
NCL says she "Will be reused as a Casino
Ship"- This information was given to a
group I belong to online- I can give you the
name- but do not want it published is this
will jeopardize our bid to save the other
ship the SS UNITED STATES.
The information could be confirmed through
the US Coast Guard- as they have to know when
a (dead ship)- one that has to towed- will
have a clear channel to be removed.
They do not have casino ships in India- she
is going there to be scrapped- thus it will
be illegal as she currently full of toxic
asbestos- and the Basil Convention prohibits
ships to leave a country without the prior
removal of said waste. NCL/STAR has done this
with the famous SS NORWAY/BLUE LADY- she has
been illegally removed from the US, Germany
and Malaysia and has broken many
international laws and is currently being
scrapped without the Courts of India's
approval.
The workers of Alang do not have the proper
safety equipment- and are without the basic
necessities- shoes, gloves etc... They pull
asbestos and other toxic chemicals into the
open and drop them onto the beach.
The SS INDEPENDENCE is a very historic ship
in her own rite- not to be compared to the SS
UNITED STATES- she has taken numerous
celebrities and royalty across the Atlantic.
Here is a website that has a lot of
excellent information on the SS INDEPENDENCE,
SS UNITED STATES, SS NORWAY-as well as what
NCL has been getting away with- www.ssmaritime.com
It would be nice to get this Historic ship
saved and keep her in the US where she
belongs.
THIS IS TO TAKE PLACE THIS WEEK COMING UP
FEBRUARY 7 2008. If anyone is interested in
stopping this contact everyone you know-
email me for contacts.
Absolutely! I just ask that everyone who
becomes a contact of mine promise not to use
the high-res images for any profit or claim
that it is their photo. Other than that.
Welcome to the world of high-def :-)
Posted 22 months ago.
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I've been following, and been partially
obsessed with the Indy, for the last five
years ever since I saw it tied up at Mare
Island and recognized it from a cruise I went
on when I was a kid back in '96 with my
parents. I've been hoping a long time to
somehow be able to get a look inside the ship
and i'm incredibly grateful that you were
able to take these and share with us. I'd
love to see the large versions if you'd
permit? Thanks again...
Posted 21 months ago.
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thanks, Jon - indeed, wouldn't dream of using
your images 8in any way* without your
permission. enjoying the greater res very
much.
Posted 21 months ago.
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Jon, Id also be very greatfull for access to
the full images.
The time I lived on this ship was a such a
great time in my life.
Your photos have brought back some very
profound fond memories. As sad as it is,it
would be fascinating to have its
deconstruction documented.
The video and images of the ships at the
breakers from the film Manufactured
Landscapes comes to mind.
I have a few really nice prints of the ship
taken at the time of its 1000 voyage with
American Hawaii Cruises given to me by one of
the ships photographers who was a friend at
the time.
I'll try and get some good scans and post
them up.
I used to think about how if I was a
millionaire I would buy the ship and worry
about it later.
Where have all the eccentric millionaires
and billionaires gone anyway? Theres never
one around when you need one.
Such a shame.
Posted 21 months ago.
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You were just added to my contact list,
taho1, so now you can view the full-size
images. I can't wait to see those scans you
plan on making!
Posted 21 months ago.
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Many thanks!
I was happy with the pics before now Im
ecstatic.
Didnt realize what I was missing.
I will cherish these.
I'll work on those scans and get them up
ASAP.
If youre ever on Oahu let me know. I owe
you a beer.
bounty4117 ,I might have been your waiter.
And I thought I was a kid back in 96. lol
Posted 21 months ago.
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Hi Jon.....I'm new to this site since I got
the original San Francisco Chronicle article
regarding the demise of the SSI. If viewing
the large images involves more than just
viewing as a "slideshow", could I
too, be granted the access? Not sure how to
reach you other than this "comment"
box. Thanks, Tom
Posted 21 months ago.
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Hi TunnelBug -
These photos are absolutely beautiful!
Would you mind adding me to your contacts
list? I would LOVE to see the high quality
versions. Thanks very much for your time.
Larry
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iseemooi
says:
Holy crap! you guys made it!
That is awesome. Congratulations! Really nice pictures. Can't wait to see more.
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