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Dumb - Garbage

The last lap of 35+ 4 Wente Criterium.

I went to the front for too long, got gapped, then managed to work up to twentieth? The headwind was so strong that the pack just stalled there, no one on the front able or willing to advance much.

Then there's an accident and I slow and move to the right a little bit, make it past the rolling bicycles and feel like I won - www.flickr.com/photos/swoo/3417798725/, but then someone comes sprinting from about 70th, rubbernecks the accident and manages to hook his handlebars into mine.

Dumb is

a.) Not looking towards the front or where you're headed during the final sprint
b.) looking only about ten feet ahead instead of adjusting the sight range with speed (I'm guessing by the way he's swerving )
c.) riding in a crowd on the tops? - about a sixth of the field favors this position...

One is not safe until one has gotten off the bike and into the car! This happened so quick I just got flipped onto my shoulders and my legs didn't get scraped up at all. 

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Steve.Anderson  Pro User  says:

Two things.
1. I hope you and your shoulder are ok.
2. that rear mounted camera is the best. I would love to see some track footage with it.
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Garrett Lau  Pro User  says:

Yeah, the rear view is great!
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kwc  Pro User  says:

ouch, hope you're ok
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Phil Aaronson  Pro User  says:

Wow, I stand corrected, that which is behind you does matter :)
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richardmasoner  Pro User  says:

Glad you're okay (apparently?), but awesome video. What's your camera?
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richardmasoner  Pro User  says:

Never mind -- I see it in the tags. GoPro wide angle hero cam.
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aeng  Pro User  says:

Ouch. The 4 race wasn't much better. 4 crashes in that one, but I only saw one. Did hear another behind me with a couple laps to go. Freaked me out and jumped to the front and starting pulling to try to get it safe. Used my matches, but stayed upright at the end.
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teamwelliver  Pro User  says:

Oh man Steve! Hope you're okay! Cool footage, but I don't like knowing the folks who go down. Heal fast.
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samomichel says:

Super bummer, Steve =(
I can't believe that the initial crash could have been completely avoided if the guy leaning had kept pedaling!

And I'm glad we don't have eyes in the back of our heads. That back-cam is totally freaky with the guy coming up on you so fast!
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cornerstonelife  Pro User  says:

That just sucks. What a jerk!
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otbphoto  Pro User  says:

A+, way to take one for the team Woo! Great footage. I rewound it a couple times before I saw the rear view, I thought you flatted and imploded.
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plattyjo  Pro User  says:

Is it terrible to admit that we giggled when we saw your ankle kick up into the frame after your crash? It totally was a Crit Cartoon with that yardsale happening in the last lap! We hope you're all right and thanks for sharing your awesome footage, as always. The rear vantage point is fantastic.
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jelway_1997 says:

I'm trying to figure out exactly how the crash started in the first place. Certainly the two guys on the left are bumping but the guy on the right - what caused him to go down (and start the dominos falling...)
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kh-photos - Kurt  Pro User  says:

major mayhem, glad you avoided major injury !
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mnorri  Pro User  says:

Wow. I've always wanted to see what my crashes looked like. Yours will have to do! Thanks, I hope you and your bike recover fully and quickly!
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djconnel says:

It seems White Shorts tried to move into a small gap. The guy to his right was moving slightly left (watch his trajectory relative to the Bott's dots) and there was contact. So the guy to the left leans into the contact (as we're all taught to do. White Shorts, instead of returning the lean, moves left with the pressure, into the guy to his left. At this point, it's all over.

But what surprises me is the sheer magnitude of the ensuing carnage. How many guys went down?

I wonder if you'd have been better off not slowing so much. But whether or not this is true, there's no excuse for the guy behind you to have plowed into like that. That's totally insane. It's like he forgot where his brakes were.
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phoebemum  Pro User  says:

I thought it looked like the guy from behind wasn't looking at SWoo, rather did the classic blunder and was too busy looking at the crash. By the time he looked up, he was flying up SWoo's arse and couldn't move aside fast enough?

I'm just cracking up that you had both front and rear view cameras going on. Is that a regular occurrence?
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axellrose00  Pro User  says:

Glad you're okay Steve... total garbage with that guy that side swiped you post crash - get better soon!
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Garrett Lau  Pro User  says:

Wow! This has over 1000 hits already, and it isn't even on ncncaracing.com. The publicity must be coming from norcalcyclingnews.com
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fenlandsnapper  Pro User  says:

Apart from the sheer idiocy of the guy that hit you, that is amazing footage. Hope you got off lightly.

Impressive but hard to watch without wincing :-)
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saeedi says:

Did you do any post video stabilization? The footage is very smooth and dampened well.
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Blacknell  Pro User  says:

Oi.

(posted this over at PodiumCafe.com, as the footage is pretty cool, even if the crash is utterly stupid.)
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mysale51 says:

what do you use for your cameras? awesome video by the way.
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richardmasoner  Pro User  says:

@saeedi & @mysale51 -- GoPro HERO cam has built in (digital) stabilization. The wide angle view also goes a long ways to reduce apparent camera motion.
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

,, , ,,, , , , , Thanks, feel like I have a hangover without any of the benefits, also I have some new scars about six inches below my belly button where I hit either the handlebars (core sample!) or my headset cap. planning on doing some track racing, the one problem is the lights at Hellyer are so weak that anything after dark footage may be useless.
, congrats on your race!
, good guess at what happened, not sure, it looks like both riders are going for the same hole and are oblivious of the other's presence, and the third rider unaware of the other two isn't helping matters by riding in straight path :), and I think the rider in white hooks his handlebars into the rider on the orange bike - that is why he stopped pedaling. Yeah, I sort of jumped away from the screen the first time I viewed that, keep in mind everything is much closer than it appears in the video.
, The one thing you are discounting is I have no idea where the bikes are going to fly or stop flying, we now have the benefit of knowing where they were going to come to rest, so of course I wish I had done things differently! Also, things are much closer than they appear in the video.
, I can see most of the sources for traffic in stats and norcalcyclingnews is way down the list for direct traffic at least.
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richardmasoner  Pro User  says:

So you're a little beat up, Steve, but what about the bike and wheels? How'd they fare? :-)
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kjane1 says:

Wow, Steve, that is some incredible footage! It sort of reminds me of this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfs55TB9srg (check out the genius move at 12 sec).

Glad you are basically OK, and hope you feel better soon!
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jimgskoop  Pro User  says:

It looked to me like the guy who caused the initial crash had his left foot come out of his pedal...?
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Cyclocross Magazine  Pro User  says:

ouch - sorry to see that steve. that sucks. makes me remember why i stick to dirt. not that i stay upright, but it's usually my fault.
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L. Christmas says:

hey Woo-man.. glad you're ok.. and were able to race the next race too. btw.. camera in front AND back!! you've out-done yourself :-)

I hope everyone recovers ok.. cuz there were a few guys who didn't look so good at the end of that.

Well, I was the unaware 'third' rider on the left who was 'holding his straight line' (and luckily stayed up.. because my rear wheel is bent outta shape from poor white-shorts landing into me).

I know white shorts was trying to get into that gap as his bars tapped my hip once or twice before the crash. And although he maybe should not have been there.. he would have been fine until orange bike the tangle up with orange bike. (I deleted anything that may came off too harsh... bunch sprints are too crazy to over analyze :-)

Dumb is (continued):
d) Hold your line when you sprint unless totally necessary to avoid a problem. (or your a Pro Tour Rider that gets paid to do this s@#$!)
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andrew_hsu  Pro User  says:

Woo-ster,

Isn't this like the second video you've done in which you crashed? If I were superstitious, I'd think that the cameras were causing the crashes...

Seriously though, I'm glad to hear that you're ok...
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woo me. says:

I'm so glad I have a such an awesome stunt double! From one swoo to another I hope you are ok!
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, ha, I looked the bike over and it's good to go again, I took the brunt of the damage.
, thanks, probably just a little more brain damaged but no one will notice. That video is pretty infamous, I'd rather be famous for something good, though!
, it's really hard to identify the issue, even with the original video
, my worst crashes are on the dirt, but I still do the dirt!
, it's your fault! :) just kidding.
, thanks
, you're supposed to be mine! Speaking of which, this cute girl thinks I'm you. How far can I take this? :)
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smadness  Pro User  says:

Great footage. I'm really interested what kind of camera / setup you have going there. Is it entirely custom, or built easily from stock parts, hopefully?
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, it's around $200 US for each one

Saving the economy one impulse buy at a time by SWoo

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Ed Matthews  Pro User  says:

Wow Steve. Glad your unharmed, the rear cam really explained why you went down.....now get me a picture of some food!
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plattyjo  Pro User  says:

Steve - you're our Helmet Hero!
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fnagrom  Pro User  says:

Steve, that sucks. Glad you're OK.
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, thx. mmm food. must find something new to eat...
, it looks way too dorky on the helmet imo
, thx, hope every else gets well soon
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phoebemum  Pro User  says:

You raced the next race? Sheesh, man of steel... or something. :-P

Sorry to hear about the aches and scars. Ibuprofen is your friend. Hope it's just the typical "two days and done" soreness...
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, Lloyd means the next race on the calendar cause I sure didn't race twice yesterday, I did ride to Los Gatos and do Cat's Hill a few times.

Those drugs never work on me, but might have to try again in day!
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velogirls  Pro User  says:

orange bike hit the bots dots and freaked. his technique kinda sucked. he was all over the bike and his weight wasn't in the right place, setting him up for the crash.
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Phil Aaronson  Pro User  says:

I'm not so sure I completely agree with the all orange bike fault theory. Look at this frame:

www.flickr.com/photos/swoo/3480244266/

At this point orange bike is crossing the botts dots, he's significantly ahead of white bike. Everybody is looking for a wheel to suck, orange bike has decided to go for the wheel on the left. white is in a bad spot, he's behind orange, and worse doesn't appear to see him coming.

www.flickr.com/photos/swoo/3479437355/

In the next picture several frames later, well after orange crosses the dots, white finally realizes that orange is coming in from the right. Unfortunately his bars are still behind orange, even after the dots, and he gives ground sliding left. Bad choice.

www.flickr.com/photos/swoo/3480245466/

Unfortunately white's also a little behind the rider on his left as well who doesn't give ground. And at this point white bike has shifted so far left it looks like he bumps the rider on his left. But note that as white bike shifted left, orange bike took all the ground white was giving coming more and more left.

And then some, as white comes back right quickly off the bounce, orange is still thinking everything is moving left. You've now got white coming right quickly and orange sliding left and they hit. Because orange is out of the saddle, he goes down.

Definitely orange is being overly aggressive for a crappy position. White however doesn't appear to be aware of where he is relative to the other riders.
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misterlump says:

So glad I broke to the inside...
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shawndoggy says:

gah, that sux. Great footage with the dual gopros though! Wonder if there's any editing software that would let you to PinP or splitscreen? That would REALLY give a great perspective.
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, there is plenty of commercial software that has that feature as a bulletpoint, and it can be done with the free software that comes with Windows with the investment of some time but since I am not making money with this I don't want to put that much into it.
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fluckduffy  Pro User  says:

Oh man. incredible footage, incredibly boneheaded move by the guy that plowed into you. Why in the hell would you rubber neck in the middle of a pack on the final sprint?

That must have been a killer headwind.
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, thanks, headwind, yes, this is close to where the hills have a lot of power generating windmills
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giovannirey2 says:

dude!! cool video... ah, sort of... :(

crashing sucks. makes you want to slap some people. starting with the first guy 'orange' who fell for NO reason. A little jostle, and a tiny rub of elbows and he went down like a house of cards. booooooo.

then the guy that ran you over.... BOOOOOOO

oh the shame in being caught on video f'n up. ;)

cool video though, and good riding by you, as always.
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, thanks, you're the man!
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jvolsansky says:

Looks like the guy in white though doesn't have much room is holding a decent line for where he was...not much space. The guy on the orange ride is totally looking for trouble. outta the saddle over the dots, slightly touchs if at all the guy in white. Looks like he was expecting more contact and leaned into something that wasn't there. BANG! The rearender what was up with that? Rubbernecking, going into a bunch finish on his hoods?!?! Hope everybody is all right. one of our teammates went home with a new set of taillights, OUCH!
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hippster  Pro User  says:

I wish I had bought one of these for the NRC crit last weekend in Dana Point. I thought about it, but never got around to ordering. Would've been some great footage for sure. How long do your batteries last?

Hipp Ster
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, that sounds like a pretty good recreation. I saw the shredded shorts, ouch!
, supposedly about two hours but I've never recorded that long. I have one of the newer model ones that takes the 4G (two hours recording time) card and an older one that uses the 2G (one hour recording time) card. It looks like some places are selling the older one.
www.goprocamera.com/index.php?area=2&prod uctid=4

I saw this link on 's photo :http://helmetcameracentral.com/2009/04/27/vh oldr-contourhd-the-worlds-first-hd-wearable-c amcorder/
for possibly a more convenient and higher quality solution.
It's also more aerodynamic. But it would not be useful for the chest mount that I would want to use on the dirt. :)
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obra3 says:

Another option is the Blackeye 2

www.blackeyeusa.com/

I've been pondering the countourhd but battery life for me is the problem.
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, thanks! That is an interesting option, too.
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Stephen Butler says:

Sorry to see this! The link also made its way to www.chicagobikeracing.com, where it got labeled as "crash porn."
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Ŋιcκ says:

that's really fantastic!!!!! it's exactly the same of the race! i never imagined that someone would have filmed a bicycle race, because of the risk of fall!! i hope you and your camera are ok! keep on with this incredible videos!
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daroy says:

Sucks
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, thanks, but I'm famous for the wrong reasons...
, I have a lot more videos here:

and here:http://www.vimeo.com/user734015/videos but not a lot of crashes. The cameras are probably in a more protected place than anything else on the bike, just start and forget.
, yep, oh well, hopefully we all learn something and move on
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samoreno20 says:

I know it's been 5 months since this race, but I was looking at it and thought I would comment, however, nobody will probably read..hah..I was racing in that and I was the rider just up front of the two guys who locked handlebars. Unfortunately their crash took me out hard, I was the one who got knocked out and eventually carted off by ambulance. Damage - broken pelvic bone, two broken ribs, broken collarbone and subdural hematoma (blood and swelling of the brain) spent two days in the hospital over there and a month in bed. However, I am back on bike and training for next year...
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plattyjo  Pro User  says:

Gosh - glad you're back on the bike and I'm so sorry the crash was so horrific for you!
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SWoo  Pro User  says:

, 2x on what wrote. My neck still hurts from the secondary accident I was in...
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samoreno20 says:

yeah, I'll have to deal with the collarbone aches for awhile but otherwise fine..see you on the circuit next season...
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