This is the finest collection of tart cards I've seen for a long time.
Just spent the day walking from Oxford Circus over to the East End. Saw many things and places including Tavistock Square, Kings Cross, The London Hospital and Aldgate. I photographed none of it - it just didn't seem right. Wretched, wretched times ...
I took a photo of one of 'missing' people on monday (sad to say she's just been confirmed killed). Can't bring myself to look at it, never mind 'think' of putting it up on Flickr, it would be too sick.
I think everyone has gone..."oh christ not suicide bombers!"...but would it make any difference if they weren't?...would the threat be less?...don't think so.
I'll be f****d if I'm going to do anything different (not sure whether that makes me stupid or stubborn...probably the former).
Spot on. Joe Public is a 'soft' target and not protected by barricades or security, whether a bomber is a suicide case or not is 100% irrelevant.
Not that the newspapers seem to think so.
Agree about putting the pictures up. I'll be in Kings Cross again on Sunday and might take a few then. Things like this should be recorded. The tricky part is not being ghoulish or exploitative.
Not that the newspapers seem to think so.
I too will not do anything different. It's the right way to respond. Somebody should remind the government of that fact
...totally agree mate, but I'll leave it to others to post this stuff.
Going off on a tangent: I often think of the war photographer Don McCullen and think how 'haunted' he looked by what he saw and photographed. He's one of the few photographers I admire, and yet...there's more enough horror in the world. What if we were near one of the bombs? would you run towards the aftermath...thinking, which f-stop, shutter speed, i must get the gore in focus etc?. I think it might have been Don that said that looking through the viewfinder gave him a 'distance', so that he could look into a scene and look beyond the horror...and yet, he still helped (there's one photo of him carrying a wounded woman or child). This is just one of the thoughts that when through my head when I saw the 'missing' leaflets.
Mixed emotions...and yet whatever happens London will go on, 'nothing' will change it.
I actually had to deal with those thoughts years ago when the Marchioness went down in the Thames. Walking home drunk from a mate's one night, I actually saw people being dragged out of the River by Blackfriars Bridge. The boat had only just gone down. I went to see if I could help but there were enough people on hand. Then I thought 'Mmmmm, my camera gear is at home less than three minutes from here and Fleet Street is only 5 minutes from here. Why not?'
I bailed.
Well, at least I found out that I couldn't muster the necessary distance relatively early on in life. The really annoying thing is that it was late at night and no other photographers turned up until it was all over. I had my chance to capture unique images and I choked.
I also missed an opportunity to grab some shots of Roberto Calvi hanging from Blackfriars Bridge a few years before that
perhaps you can be hardened to images, if you just think of them as abstract shapes...filter the emotions, the screams and cries? I don't know, obviously nobody knows how they would react. But to choose to do it is another matter, yeah like you said to be a witness to events as 'one off' is 'perhaps' another matter. But to choose 'the horror'...to run to it, to seek it out and get paid for composing and turning carnage into art gallery images...I don't know, it's a level of separation I can barely think of of, never mind choose to do.
Yes, I think people should and they have the means to do so now.
That's one of the interesting aspects of the rise of digital photography.
A lot more people are taking a lot more pictures. Gone are the days of one roll of film being good enough for one Christmas, one holiday, one birthday, then off to the chemists.
The downside is that there's a lot more to wade through and there's a lot more thoughtless and intrusive photography going on.
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24db 96 months ago | reply
It warms my heart to know that all the printers in London are getting so much work :)
StefZ 96 months ago | reply
This is the finest collection of tart cards I've seen for a long time.
Just spent the day walking from Oxford Circus over to the East End. Saw many things and places including Tavistock Square, Kings Cross, The London Hospital and Aldgate. I photographed none of it - it just didn't seem right. Wretched, wretched times ...
24db 96 months ago | reply
And everyone of them looks like her photo! ;)
I took a photo of one of 'missing' people on monday (sad to say she's just been confirmed killed). Can't bring myself to look at it, never mind 'think' of putting it up on Flickr, it would be too sick.
I think everyone has gone..."oh christ not suicide bombers!"...but would it make any difference if they weren't?...would the threat be less?...don't think so.
I'll be f****d if I'm going to do anything different (not sure whether that makes me stupid or stubborn...probably the former).
StefZ 96 months ago | reply
Spot on. Joe Public is a 'soft' target and not protected by barricades or security, whether a bomber is a suicide case or not is 100% irrelevant.
Not that the newspapers seem to think so.
Agree about putting the pictures up. I'll be in Kings Cross again on Sunday and might take a few then. Things like this should be recorded. The tricky part is not being ghoulish or exploitative.
Not that the newspapers seem to think so.
I too will not do anything different. It's the right way to respond. Somebody should remind the government of that fact
Not that the newspapers seem to think so.
24db 96 months ago | reply
...totally agree mate, but I'll leave it to others to post this stuff.
Going off on a tangent: I often think of the war photographer Don McCullen and think how 'haunted' he looked by what he saw and photographed. He's one of the few photographers I admire, and yet...there's more enough horror in the world.
What if we were near one of the bombs? would you run towards the aftermath...thinking, which f-stop, shutter speed, i must get the gore in focus etc?. I think it might have been Don that said that looking through the viewfinder gave him a 'distance', so that he could look into a scene and look beyond the horror...and yet, he still helped (there's one photo of him carrying a wounded woman or child). This is just one of the thoughts that when through my head when I saw the 'missing' leaflets.
Mixed emotions...and yet whatever happens London will go on, 'nothing' will change it.
StefZ 96 months ago | reply
I actually had to deal with those thoughts years ago when the Marchioness went down in the Thames. Walking home drunk from a mate's one night, I actually saw people being dragged out of the River by Blackfriars Bridge. The boat had only just gone down. I went to see if I could help but there were enough people on hand. Then I thought 'Mmmmm, my camera gear is at home less than three minutes from here and Fleet Street is only 5 minutes from here. Why not?'
I bailed.
Well, at least I found out that I couldn't muster the necessary distance relatively early on in life. The really annoying thing is that it was late at night and no other photographers turned up until it was all over. I had my chance to capture unique images and I choked.
I also missed an opportunity to grab some shots of Roberto Calvi hanging from Blackfriars Bridge a few years before that
I tell you, a lot goes on underneath that bridge
24db 96 months ago | reply
God's banker!
perhaps you can be hardened to images, if you just think of them as abstract shapes...filter the emotions, the screams and cries? I don't know, obviously nobody knows how they would react. But to choose to do it is another matter, yeah like you said to be a witness to events as 'one off' is 'perhaps' another matter. But to choose 'the horror'...to run to it, to seek it out and get paid for composing and turning carnage into art gallery images...I don't know, it's a level of separation I can barely think of of, never mind choose to do.
StefZ 96 months ago | reply
nah, it's not me, that's for sure
Cadigan 96 months ago | reply
I think that sometimes there is a need to bear witness in a lasting way--i.e., via photographs.
StefZ 96 months ago | reply
Yes, I think people should and they have the means to do so now.
That's one of the interesting aspects of the rise of digital photography.
A lot more people are taking a lot more pictures. Gone are the days of one roll of film being good enough for one Christmas, one holiday, one birthday, then off to the chemists.
The downside is that there's a lot more to wade through and there's a lot more thoughtless and intrusive photography going on.