banned

Cayce T. says:

I think it is interesting that it is possible for Linden Labs to ban your account permanently and with that erase your identity/you business/your hard work/your art/your "self"? for however long they choose to for whatever reason they like. I also think that eventually this will change, once people are more aware of what this means to their virtual identity and once they start pressing for more participation.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Selavy Oh    says:

thanks, cayce, for your comment. the issue of 'ownership' and 'identity' is really very important, and it is basically unacceptable that a company providing a platform can erase all the work you've done using the platform. in terms of the good old medium, it is as if a company selling a canvas could take back the canvas together with the painting on it, just because the painting violates some guidelines of this company.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

kumi kuhr    says:

oh FFS :-/

Can you get a Linden over to observe the breakage?

Love the chain btw.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Klink Epsilon    says:

I don't think it was your chain they had a problem with, I think it was the previous work you did there. The tractor beam as Jay calls it, it was probbley someone who came to brooklyn is watching, just didn't get what the work was about and abuse reported you. I supect this may have been more than one abuse report, I think Jay did meantion on the podcast that some people had complained about it. I really hate the fact that someone who doesn't understand your art work can just AR you and it can be removed or you yourself can suspended or removed from second life itself.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Selavy Oh    says:

ty, kumi, glad you like it! unfortunately, i don't know any lindens so far, and if it goes on like this, i don't know whether that'll ever happen.
@klink: the "attractive object" was sent back by auto-return about 6 hours before i was suspended. 40 minutes before being suspended, i got an IM by a resident asking: "is there some reason you hit me with scripted objects?"
that's why i think that, ironically, it was not the previous work.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Klink Epsilon    says:

Well I won't disgree with you there the Lindens do make some stupid decisions regarding abuse.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Selavy Oh    says:

they certainly do. it was the chain, i know now for sure. it simply fell on someone's head, that gave about 20 hits from a scripted object. reason enough to be banned.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Dekka Raymaker says:

Sadly in reality the Lindens can't check all abuse reports so their solution is to shot first, which is plainly wrong. A few Lindens understand the purpose of Brooklyn Is Watching and maybe someone attached to 'Brooklyn' with more clout can say something to them!

Sorry you got banned, bad, bad move.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Gita Rau says:

Artist Attack! :(
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Selavy Oh    says:

thanks dekka and gita. jay knows, and he wanted to take some action (see blog post at BiW). the problem is that this really threatens artists who work like me. in this case, it was a big misunderstanding. but if there are enough complaints about "aggressive" artwork (take gazira babeli's soup can!), they easily can ban me for ever, and erase all my work (see cayce's comment).
time to do some good documentation ...
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Eli Schlegal says:

Redic.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

N I M I L [is] loved!    says:

people are so stupid! i can't believe that happened...
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Glyph Graves    says:

Griefer!!!

oh that's both funny and absurd in a Kafkaesque sort of way. A real pain that you were banned for a day. It makes you wonder how knowledgeable some Lindens are about SL.

Gazira babeli's soup can is a treasure and would it would be sad day if people were dissuaded from creating objects like that or your work.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

kumi kuhr    says:

ok Gazira babeli's soup can has been mentioned several times now and I'm curious! is there any place where this marvelous soup can can be experienced? Or can anyone provide a vivid description?
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Selavy Oh    says:

case closed. linden lab's response below.

Hi there,

Thank you for the additional information relating to the recent incident. I've noted the details on your account. I've made a correction to your account so the suspension will not count against you in the future.

We now consider this matter closed.

Best regards,

Linden Lab and the Second Life Community team

Selavy Oh    says:

kumi, gazira's soup can was shown at BiW for some time, but i'm pretty sure that you still can see it at her sim (locusolus). for a documentation, check gazira's web site here: www.gazirababeli.com/secondsoup.php.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

kumi kuhr    says:

thanks Selavy!

and congrats on the human response to you ban/suspension.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Gita Rau says:

Good to hear! ^__^
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Ze Moo says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Second Life - is REAL!, and we'd love to have this added to the group!
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Selavy Oh    says:

thanks ze, and i definitely agree with you on reality :)
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Pandora Wrigglesworth    says:

Selavy, just for the record: I realize that this isn't your usual fare but I would be honored to be hit in the head by an object scripted by you.
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

Selavy Oh    says:

pandora, thanks so much, your comment is an honor for me!
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )