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Barack Obama - Santa Fe Art District

Barack Obama - Santa Fe Art District by Seetwist.
Barack Obama by Koolhats. "I'm asking you to believe not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington. I'm asking you to believe in yours." 

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tiguh  Pro User  says:

I'm fave'ing this photo...I love the art, but I like the message even more. :)
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

Fuck Yeah
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f o t o b e t t y  Pro User  says:

word.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Toyman's TOY ROOM [deleted] says:

The Truth will be seen, in the voters... remember America voted for BUSH too. Look what we got. So be careful with your vote here. See through the speech to the man...do we know him?
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blackdiamondgraphix says:

i love it
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Seetwist says:

the majority of people in this culture don't even utilize their ability to vote. How the hell do you expect them to make lasting changes?

More people have gone out to their primaries and caucuses this year than in the last few presidential elections. Every single state has seen a surge of people getting involved with politics this year. You can blame voter apathy on the bullshit that has happened over the last 8 years. When people become disenfranchised, they don't want to vote. Especially for a bunch of immature shit-slingers and vote-stealers.

Hey, does John McCain still have that illegitimate black baby?

FACT: More people voted for the next American Idol than they did in the 2004 elections.

No, more votes were CAST for American Idol... I'm tired of this comparison being made. It's incredibly intellectually dishonest. Since you could vote for American Idol contestants by text message and you could vote as many times as you wanted to, it's not really fair to compare the two. You don't even have to be a US citizen to vote for these bubblegum-pop singers. Completely different systems, completely different methods (not to mention a completely different age demographic). Do you see many 12 year old girls voting for President, or many 70 year old men voting for Jordin Sparks?

If all you had to do was pick up your phone and punch 68861 for Obama, 66862 for Clinton or 66863 for McCain, I guarantee you'd see an enormous turnout at the polls.

Research his voting record and you will see Globalist ideals, NOT american.

Not American according to...? Anything in particular you don't particularly like, or are you just parroting this idea that so many others are spewing? Can you list off a few of the votes that scare you so much? Here's the list, feel free to point them out: (http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php ?can_id=9490)

I'm honestly interested, because the whole thing reeks of being a partisan hit-job.

And what exactly do you dislike about regaining a positive world image amongst all these countries that hate us right now? You might not want to leave the States to travel around, but I certainly do, and not being universally despised is an important quality that I look for in a leader. Being able to properly enunciate is just a nice little bonus, but maybe I'm just sick of 7 years of "New-Q-Lar" and "The War on Terrrrrr."

Also research his connection to Zbigniew Brzezinski. (Progenitor of Al Quaeda, I mean, Al CIAda)

Since you seem to know so much about this connection, how about you help to enlighten the uninformed masses? It's not my job to research your claims for you. This guy has had a position of power since the Carter administration, why is he such a threat now? Is it simply because he worked in the Carter administration (an administration that preferred to talk things out rather than resort to partisan politics)? It seems that he is a vociferous opponent when it comes to foreign intervention (Serbia when Bill Clinton was in office, Iraq during the second Bush administration), and he's very much against the USA becoming isolated from the rest of the world....

Am I missing something here? Is there actually genuine concern about this guy having a position of power, or is this just more right-wing muck-raking and swift-boating? The "radicalized preacher" angle didn't work out, so now this is the new angle to go for?
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

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Seetwist says:

FINALLY! Some fucking action!
I've been furious the past couple months over this Obama art crap and have been drilling dozens of people, mostly artists about it.
Believe it or not, this is only the SECOND legitimate response I've gotten.


Yeah, Flickr isn't really the place to engage in open and honest debate. I run into the same issues as you, people (on all sides of the political spectrum) don't like to explore opinions that don't coincide with their own. It's a shame that 99% of debates end up as screaming matches.

This conversation from earlier today is a prime example of the bullshit responses I've been receiving:
flickr.com/photos/elishacookjr/2306888851/


Thanks for linking that, I'm a fan of Billikid's work and didn't know he had a Flickr account.

However, what makes you place so much faith in OUR voting system? Hell, In "Orwell rolls over in his grave" you can see diebold programmers and engineers admitting faults in the system they were told to design so that they could be easily manipulated.

Oh, dont misunderstand me. I have little to no faith in our voting system, especially electronic voting. I'm happy that my state decided to use 100% paper ballots this November, but that only makes me feel a tiny bit better than I did when Diebold was running things.

Since you seem hip to the game, you probably are well aware of all the reported fraud during the primaries, even fraud against Obama. All I'm trying to say is that neither numbers are truley accurate.

Hey, no argument from me here.

But when you see the numbers for crap like american Idol and then see that not even a quarter of registered voters voted in the primaries, it shows you what people care about more.

Yeah, we're still pretty apathetic as a country when it comes to voting. However, we haven't had a brutal regime suppressing the female vote and rigging elections for decades like some of the recently "democratized" countries have. I'm sure if we were threatened with physical harm and death for 30+ years, we'd all be running to the polls as soon as we possibly could. But as it is, people are just annoyed with the obvious corruption within the system and most people feel like their votes don't matter anyway (if the Democratic nominee is decided by Super-delegates, I'm sure voter turnout will drop off severely). Personally, I prefer to vote in local and state elections because my vote actually DOES mean something. National elections are just a joke.

I think a better option would be to extend the voting period from 1 day to 1 week. Either that or the 1 day should be a holiday so that no one has an excuse for not showing up.

I've always thought that elections should be held on a weekend, that way people aren't rushing to get from work to the voting booth. But that's just common sense, and elected officials and government workers are notoriously short on that.

"It's not my job to research your claims for you."
That's got to be one of the most outrageous remarks I've ever read.
If you really mean that then you might as well believe everything everyone tells you or nothing at all and be a complete ignoramus.


I stand by my statement. If you have something to prove to me, if you have a claim that needs backing up, it is YOUR responsibility to bring those facts to the table. I do plenty of research on my own, but saying "Google Zbigniew Brzezinski" - which brings up 548,000 results - is pointless. If I do that, I get a wikipedia article, both left-wing and right-wing sites that are biased in one way or another, and news articles that give little information. If you have some sort of special and important information about this guy, and you're trying to educate the uninformed, it is YOUR JOB to do so. Having someone search for their own results will do nothing. If they're a fan of this guy, I can guarantee that they'll overlook the bad stuff and focus on the good (and vice versa). Besides, if you are as informed about Mr. Brzezinski's business as you claim you are, you should have no problems quickly citing your sources.

If I say "The moon landing was faked", it is my responsibility to back that claim up. The same thing applies in this situation. Sharing information should be done freely and as often as possible. I can't join a debate team and tell the other side "It's true, look it up", I need to cite sources as often as possible.

Whether I detail my claims for you or not it's still your responsibility to question and confirm them (or ignore them). I mean seriously, How do you make it through life without finding things out on your own or teaching yourself something?

I make it a point to research as much as possible, whether it hurts my candidate or not. I'm not a blind supporter of anyone. If Jesus returned last Sunday, I'd make him show me the holes in his palms before I listened to anything he had to say. But as I said before, if you have some sort of special information that (obviously) not many people know about, it is YOUR responsibility to back up these claims and make a believer out of me. After you do so, it is my duty to either respond to these claims with facts that prove otherwise, or to rescind and admit that your facts stand up to scrutiny. Unlike politicians, I am completely capable of admitting that I am wrong.

Debate isn't about winning, it's about changing minds.

As for the Brzezinski connection it is up to the readers to research this man and come up with their own conclusions.

I did, and I couldn't find anything that was horribly wrong with the guy. Yes, he has done some things that I don't agree with politically, but I have yet to meet a candidate that I agree with 100%. You made it sound like you're privy to some secret revelations that the public doesn't know about. If so, please post them. Again, I am not afraid of information that might make Barack look bad. I'd rather know as much as possible about someone before I vote for them.

I would gladly lay it all out for them here but it would too easily be ignored or pushed aside after reading and that would be the end of it.

Sorry, but I call BS. That sort of claim doesn't hold water with me or most other people. If you have information that is relevant to the debate, then YOU need to let people know. Sure, 99% of people will just gloss over the text (like I'm sure most people are doing to our conversation right now), but that 1% who will listen shouldn't be discounted. Remember, it was only 534 votes in Florida that decided that 2000 election. Florida has a population of 18,089,888. Convincing less than .01% of those people could have changed the outcome of the election.

When people come to their own discoveries it has a more profound and lasting effect, in my opinion. Kind of like the philosophy, people wont take action until it affects them personally.

Is asking questions of other not taking action? How do you suggest we inform people who have no idea how to use Google (and yes, there are LOTS of these people still out there). John McCain just admitted that he's completely clueless when it comes to computers. The majority of people get their information from 10 second sound bytes that are replayed ad nauseum on the news. How many people do you think saw Barack Obama's entire 40 minute speech about his pastor? Shit, how many people even know that the President has a weekly radio address?

The man has been propelling New World Order concepts since getting into power and your comments on him are evidence of it.

[Citation Needed]. And Obama is not MY senator, he doesn't represent any states that are even close to mine. What exactly do you know about me and how I vote, or how he has influenced my thoughts. For Christ's sake, I dropped my independent voting status this year and registered as a Republican (ugh), just so I could vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

BTW, Try not to get isolationism and sovereignty mixed with each other. These are 2 entirely different ways of living.

I'm aware of the difference, but I fear that other's aren't. Bush 2 doesn't even know what the word sovereign means, and he's running things.

Oh, and thanks for the voting record link. I'll spend some time with it and get back to you with examples. I prefer looking at his own website for the info though. Globalists aren't shy.

No problem. But as I am sure you are aware, his personal site will be biased towards him, and his opposition will be biased against him. Voting records are strictly fact, and cannot be manipulated (or mis-remembered... right, Mrs. Hillary-I-had-to-run-from-snipers-while-in-Bo snia-Clinton?)

Anyway, my hat's off to you for having enough passion to speak your mind.

Cheers to you for replying to my post, I thought it'd just be blown off or met with profanity and insults like usual.

'm an american citizen with legitimate concerns about my government.

I haven't trusted a political candidate in a loooooong time, and think that Republicans and Democrats are just two slightly different flavors of the same shit-sandwich. Partisan politics are for idiots like Bill Kristol and Michael Moore.

I'm also an artist who is fed up with his peers blindly supporting someone they don't know anything about.

I as well, and I feel the same pain that you do when I see college kids walking around with a Che Guevara t-shirt and no idea who he really is or what he stood for.

YOU may be aware of some issues presented here but many don't and are making decisions based upon what's presented to them on television.

And that final sentence sums up exactly what is wrong with our political system, and our voting public.
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Seetwist says:

I haven't forgotten to reply, I've just been extremely busy. I'll address your post sometime today (hopefully). Thanks for posting all that info, BTW.
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

hhaha
no, sorry, my tin foil hat is too strong for this bullshit...
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

So, whats your point?
www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/5775
"I have reservations about Obama's qualifications and his ties to shady political dealmakers and the angry words of Rev. Wright. He has also played fast and loose with his resume."
Sorry, what youve posted is mostly bullshit compared to clintons lies and ties to evil.
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

LOL
Yeah, Ron Who?
tell him to run next time...
and you may consider that the democrats were hogtied by bush who wouldnt let them give him anything less...
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Seetwist says:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NDr1tmNkFXA

Ugh, that video reminds me why I hate YouTube. I long for the days when I could just read someone's diatribe and not have to listen to their thespian rage.

Cue Jon Lovitz: "It's ACT-IIING!"

Quotes:
"Not to mention the fact that of course terrorists hate freedom. I think they do hate. But believe me, I don't think they sit there abstractly hating freedom. "

What's so wrong with this statement? I'm sure some people out there do hate us because of our gluttony and massive amount of sinful freedoms. I also highly doubt that people just sit there and stew in their own juices about "our freedoms", when there are so many other reasons to hate us.

Why are these people trying to scare us into submission? Could it be that old philosophy of creating a common enemy to unite people? (The world)

Every politician since the beginning of time has done this.

The only candidate I see proposing REAL solutions is RON PAUL.

How soon we forget Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich...

Obama is saying we need to change this, change that and move forward, etc. But He is severely lacking in practical solutions.

What specifically worries you? What do YOU have a solution for that he doesn't?

Brzezinski chillin' with the hommies:

Insert pictures of Rumsfeld with Saddam, Nixon with Mao, Clinton with Arafat, etc. Yes, people who the USA was friendly to many years ago are no longer our friends, and in some cases, our enemies. I can drag up photos of myself from 20, 10, even 5 years ago with people who I despise now. Show me footage of him hanging out with Osama a bit more recently than the 1970's and I'll change my tune.

From the first video.
"I don't think the country needs to go back to what we had 8 years ago. I think there is the need for a fundamental rethinking of how we conduct world affairs."


I couldn't agree more.

Obama & the New World Order Connection:

Oh boy, here we go. Pardon me if I don't take a video like that seriously. Edited clips, ominous background music and it comes from someone named "Conspiracy Hunter" who has "No New World Order" as his avatar. Like I said much earlier, the people who don't like Barack are going to come up with all sorts of "information" that is biased towards their agenda, and vice versa.

Gore Vidal on the Election & Corruption in America:

I have great respect for Mr. Vidal, and great respect for Henry Rollins as well, but nowhere in that video is Obama or Brzezinski mentioned. Good video, I just don't know what your underlying point is...



So far, everything I have seen makes Barack Obama out to be a horrible person because he has associated himself with Brzezinski. I hear the same thing about Obama and Rev. Wright. So I must ask, why are you so afraid of Obama? I've been hearing this New World Order shit for years and years and years now, no matter who is president. I've been out to the Denver International Airport and seen the spooky NWO symbols and murals... I've read articles in poorly-xeroxed newsletters and seen them on Loose-Change-esque websites. I try to keep an open mind about a lot of things, but this type of talk is, I have to say, tinfoil hat chatter.

Turns out, Brzezinski's son AND daughter both keep in contact and advise Obama while at the same time publicly supporting him.

Again, do you have anything against Obama personally? Or is it just this connection that frightens you?

If you think Obama is any different than clinton you're in for a BIG surprise.

Obama's last name isn't Clinton. This Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton bullshit has to stop, we don't need an entire generation knowing only 2 presidential families. Monarchy is one of the reasons we fled King George to begin with.

The only one with a clean record is RON PAUL. He practices what he preaches.

Yeah, that would have been nice, but it ain't gonna happen. In a choice between Clinton, Obama and McCain, I'm gonna have to go with Obama. And I won't feel the least bit compromised in doing so.
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Seetwist says:

I have a lot to say about this stuff but I'm going to refrain from commenting any further

Well, thanks for the comments and info, I enjoy trying to see things from someone else's POV. You're more than welcome to keep posting if you like, and if you do, I'll (eventually, heh) respond.

no one has been able to give me reasons why Obama SHOULD be president other than the fact that he's "better than the other options".

Isn't "Being the best option" the reason you vote for a candidate anyway? Sometimes it sucks, but that's the way it is in politics. Vote for the best candidate, protest by not voting, or vote your conscience and select a write-in candidate.

You can call me crazy or a tin-foil-hat-wearing-nutjob or whatever you want

I didn't mean to imply that YOU were some sort of kook, I merely said that about some of those videos and made a comparison to the kooks of old... Sorry if it came across as an attack, it was not meant to be.

I'm not the one getting hung up on issues that should be decided locally, not nationally.

Again, Ron Paul woulda been nice, but woulda/coulda/shoulda doesn't mean shit when it comes to elections.

but I'm not the one ignoring the real problems we face.

I think you and I just have different ideas of what constitutes a severe problem. I am concerned about the economy tanking, the dollar deflating, nation after nation hopping on the "Hate The US" bandwagon, the thought of us pre-emptively bombing Iran, and more pressing matters like these. I've heard about this North American Union for a while now (the whole deal with combining the peso, dollar and loonie, the 10-lane superhighway from Mexico to Canada, all that...) and I just don't see it as a REAL possibility. Even if it was, nobody has shown me why exactly it would be so terrible. But then again, I'm one of those strange people who is in favor of demolishing ALL borders between countries. Why people are so intent on building a fucking FENCE is just beyond me. Buncha Xenophobes, if you ask me.

NAU = NO MORE USA, make sense yet?

Let me ask: What part of American culture/society are they trying to destroy, and what part are you trying to save?

I spent a long time defining why Obama is NOT a viable candidate and don't feel the need to elaborate anymore until someone can give me an equal amount of positive things Obama is doing or has done that makes him so great.

Fair enough.

For starters (and this is HUGE for me seeing as how I am someone who could benefit from stem-cell research), he has pledged to overturn this retarded presidential veto that Bush keeps giving to stem-cell research bills. That may not be big for most people, but for me, it's HUGE.

He would be (and I'm basing this statement off of MANY news articles from Europe, Asia, Africa and South America) a much better foreign diplomat than Hillary Clinton or John McCain. Like I mentioned before, I want to be able to travel without pretending like I'm Canadian. When people in Tanzania line the roads during President Bush's trip there and hold up signs that say "Go Barack!", I am filled with a sense of relief that perhaps we can be forgiven for being a nation of morons since September 11th, 2001. Show me one other country that says they would benefit from having John McCain as president. He's another war president and everyone else knows it.

Those are just a few of the many reasons that I would support Obama.

Unfortunately his voting record and past actions don't back up or prove his worth.

I disagree. The best way to see if a candidate is worth voting for is to look through their past voting record. As we've learned before, campaign trail promises are worth less than the airwaves they're sent out across.

As for Barack's voting record... Just take time to go through this site:
www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id= 9490

It'll take you a while, but this is something every voter should look at, as well as the records for McCain and Clinton.

Just looking at his record, I agree with probably 80% of his votes. FAR better than theother two candidates fare.

...agendas such as socialized healthcare (forced vaccination/sterilization)

Careful, you're straying into Alex Jones territory with statements like that. Forced sterilization? Really?

...the first ever Global Tax on carbon emissions

The first ever HERE.

suppressing technologies such as cars that run on electricity or water.

[Citation Needed]. Seriously. That's a statement that definitely needs some backing up.

Shouldn't Obama be listening to what the American people want and not some foreigner?

Wow. Ok, that's where you completely lost me. "Some Foreigner?" At least in order to gain citizenship here, you have to LEARN about the political process, the nation's history and all sorts of other things. The majority of natural-born Americans couldn't do that if they tried. My father is "some foreigner" from Germany, and he knows more about politics than some of my old school teachers did. This country is made up of "some foreigners." California is RUN by "some foreigner." How fucking long have you been here, and what makes your opinion so much more valid than anyone else's?

Sorry, but that last little line just overshadows the rest of your argument.
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Seetwist says:

People hate us because of (necessary) actions like Iraq & Iran. I say 'necessary' because these are strategic moves that were made by the globalists to secure the middle east region prior to what's to come. It's no accident that we're in Iraq even though they had nothing to do with 911 and are currently building permanent bases.

I agree 100%

I truly believe the only way to regain face is to pull out of the 300+ countries we currently occupy.

Again, I agree 100%. I think it's ridiculous that we're still in places like Japan and Germany. Those wars are LONG over.

Obama may be talking about the POSSIBILITY of withdrawing troops from IRAQ

As opposed to McCain who says we'll be there for another 100 years, or Hillary who voted for the war to begin with. At least Obama can honestly say that he didn't believe we should have gone in there in the first place.

he says nothing about these other occupations aside from sending a troop surge to Afghanistan.

That's what we should have done in the first place instead of going into Iraq. If we had just focused on Afghanistan to begin with, we'd be out of there by now. Unfortunately, the next president has to clean up the mess that Dubya has made, and that's not going to be an easy task.

didn't mean what you implied with my last statement. Agreed it was brash and uncalled for but I was thinking something else in my head and it didn't come out right.

Understood, no offense taken.

BTW, Are you saying Arnold was a good choice for California?

God, no. From a comedic standpoint, he's the best thing since Jesse Ventura. That's about it though...

oh, and for the car comment, just watch the documentary: "Who killed the electric car?"

I not only watched it, I own it. Great movie.

I think you and I have a lot in common politically. But from what I can tell, you're still stumping for a candidate who would be wonderful but has no chance of winning, whereas I am stumping for a candidate who is wonderful compared to the competition, and DOES have a chance of winning. And if I'm wrong and President Obama brings about the end of the world as we know it due to his connections with these "globalists", then I'll have nobody to blame but myself.
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Vox Massive says:

"I'll admit, My distaste for Obama started with his martin-luther-king jr.-jocking speeches." : DerekShumate

thank you.
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farlane  Pro User  says:

Hello there, I blogged your photo to Cast my vote on my blog.

Hope that's all right by you!
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Seetwist says:

Sure is, thanks for letting me know!
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Zlatko Unger  Pro User  says:

nice find
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blakie says:

yes we can
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Seetwist says:

Cool, well it looks like someone submitted this to Reddit, and it's currently sitting at the top of the page, which would account for the 23,000 hits. Thanks to whoever uploaded this, I appreciate it.

reddit.com/info/6gzp5/comments/

Update
It has now made it's way to Digg, Jimmyr.com, Wired.com and Popurls.com. Viewed almost 65,000 times. Thanks to everyone who favorited or commented!

digg.com/2008_us_elections/I_am_asking_you_to _believe_pic
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kropfjw says:

You want to know why Obama should be president DerekShumate?

Simple. I am what John Dean terms a process voter. What has happened to the political process in this country since 1980, and especially since 1994 is maddening. It is no longer about compromise and debate--essential features of a well functioning political process--but about scare tactics, and authoritarian imposition of wills. This is no way to run a country.

The fundamental checks and balances written into the constitution require that the executive and legislative branches be distinct entities from one another. But today, this is no longer the case. Republicans (and to a lesser extent, Democrats) set the most important entity as the party, not the institution itself, or the people. This is the prime reason for the congressional fealty of the last 8 years.

Obama is the only presidential candidate who seems to see anything wrong with this. And he has said so many times. He has proposed sunlight initiatives to take government dealings out of the back rooms and into the public square. He wants to televise negotiations between the administration and insurance companies about his health plan. He wants to put legislation online for comment by the public before he signs it. In essence, these policies are designed to encourage scrutiny of and involvement with the public sector. And that is desperately needed.

Obama is the candidate for those of us who think the political process is poisoned. He is the only remaining (viable) candidate who has addressed these issues in any real way. No good legislation can be made without a functioning political process, and Obama is the only candidate for whom that seems to be a priority. This is why I voted for him, and why I want him to win.
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kropfjw says:

@DerekShumate

I was originally for Gravel. I gave Gravel money. I hoped Ron Paul would win the Republican nomination. But he didn't. And the Republican nomination is over now; they've nominated John McCain. So what am I to do? Sit around and pine for a candidate that won't be on the ballot? Or switch my vote to one of the three candidates who still have a chance to be on the ballot, choosing the one who seems closest to my positions on the issues most important to me?

It seems that you're living in a fantasy land in which it is possible for Ron Paul to become President. The current electorate just don't seem to want him. I find that regrettable, but it is never-the-less true. To refuse to even acknowledge the merit in the candidacy of Obama, because he doesn't agree with you on everything, is childish, and a perfect example of what's wrong with this country's political process. Politics is all about compromise, but the politicians aren't the only ones who have to make them. We, the electorate, must do as well. I am ready to embrace that fact. It seems as if you're running from it.
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spattergroit says:

Vox that's really tasteless.

I just came to say that I love what you did with the art. I'm not coming to dispute you on Flick'r (of all places) but say I liked it.
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Seetwist says:

Yeah, there is no need for picture spamming the comments. I have no problem with open debate (as you can plainly see), but if you're going to promote Hillary, at least back your statement up with words and not a home-made campaign poster.

Flickr-spam is about as tasteless as blog-spam, and that's why I deleted your comment.
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billikidbrand  Pro User  says:

BilliKidBrand—Buzz
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

haha nice try
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Stolen Jo says:

I hate how people take politics so personally, like the world is trying to insult them. I love the mural!
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Seetwist says:

ROFL. You and I may not see eye to eye on politics my friend, but you can sure give me a good laugh.
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Missouri Freight Bench  Pro User  says:

no graffiti writers should vote for hillary clinton.. she has some kind of anti graffiti plan or some shit...


bros before hos


vote for obama
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FastFoward says:

Obama's ties to the Islamic world are disturbing at the least. He's been a long time friend of many radical Muslim extremists, yet nowhere can I find any evidence of him being friends with any moderate Muslims. He has gone on trips to visit some of America's worst enemies with Louis Farrakhan, a rabidly anti American and pro-Islam extremist. Farrakhan believes that the terrorists SHOULD kill all Christians, and that they (Muslims) are the supreme beings. He also believes that the nation of Islam should exterminate all atheists. In fact, he believes that anybody refusing to convert to Islam should be exterminated. He also openly advocates violence against white people. Obama has been tight with Farrakhan for many years.

Obama has a long record of racist votes and he lies about the so-called legislation he has done. He claims 851 pieces of legislation to his credit - a blatant lie. He HAS sponsored a few hundred bills, and he HAS authored a handful of bills. But of everything, only 2 of all of those 851 have ever passed into law. So it's clear that he's on the wrong side of every major issue.

I wonder why it is that democrats and republicans alike include educated, intelligent and compassionate people, while the liberal extremists seem to be only the most uneducated, insecure and hateful people.
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CK'sPhoto says:

Obama is a fraud. he has no answers... HOPE HOPE HOPE.. I'm tired of hearing of HOPE I want answers! He is not the right person for the job. He is just another Liberal trying to enlarge government... more government = more power. sadly I believe all politicians are moving to this... we need a true conservative leader. I'm tired of politicians telling us what they're going to do for us.. We don't need handouts.. freebies are making us weak. Americans are forgetting what we were founded upon.. The govt. doesn't owe us anything.. leave us the heck alone.
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Seetwist says:

Show me a TRUE conservative who won't inflate the government, who will cut spending drastically and who isn't a warhawk. All you need to do is name ONE.

Ron Paul does not count. I dig the guy, but it just isn't going to happen. And it isn't going to happen in 2012 either, the guy is a year older than McCain...

Perhaps if Republicans got their shit together and nominated a decent candidate, then there wouldn't be all this talk about Obama H. Christ.

Enjoy John McCain. He's the John Kerry for 2008. Bitch about Obama as much as you want, but I don't see conservatives suggesting anyone except war presidents and bible thumpers (as usual).
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Seetwist says:

"...while the liberal extremists seem to be only the most uneducated, insecure and hateful people..."

Would you like a larger brush? I don't think you're painting with broad enough strokes. Then again, people like you (the folks who make wild assumptions and only get 10% of the facts before making a decision) tend to have a sub-average level of intelligence, and usually don't listen to reason. They just know that "them damn libruhls is screwin' up this country!"



...oh wait, did I just do the same thing? Blame it on my insecure, hateful nature.
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Groovacious - Lisa-RC says:

Right on! There may yet be hope for America.
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CK'sPhoto says:

I'm still waiting on my conservative hero.. I have my eye on Bobby Jindal! Gov. of Louisiana.. he is friggin awesome!

Statistic: Barack Obama missed 252 of 1221 votes (21%) since Jan 6, 2005 (Exceedingly Poor relative to peers).
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

CK spreading misinformation again...
Here's the attendance record (the percentage represents votes missed):
John McCain: 58.4%
Barack Obama: 40.2%
Hillary Clinton: 29.7%

and as far as demopcratic senators go...
it is not Obama who's missed the most, but Senator Biden, then Dodd, and Obama comes in third.
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CK'sPhoto says:

hey I never said I like mcCain.. but I do agree with him on a few things.. Obama what the heck does he stand for? Iran is a threat it isn't the next day? please inform me on what his policies are?
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Seetwist says:

Sorry, you can't pull that "what does he stand for" crap anymore. Links have been posted that help explain exactly what he stands for, if you still don't know at this time, then you are just being willfully ignorant in order to further your anti-Obama agenda.
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Jennifer Esperanza {Mahita}  Pro User  says:

≈ Go Obama ≈

≈ Obama The Hope ≈
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print.magazine  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called 2008 Election Graphics, and we'd love to have this added to the group!
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eddyjustine888 says:

hey seetwist, i absolutley love this picture. can i use this image on my webpage? and if i can how do i get the url? like to save it to my photobucket. btw all your artwork is great! :)
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Marcello del Bono says:

I love the picture, can I use it on my blog ottovas.blogspot.com/?
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staramaze  Pro User  says:

rock the vote!
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Seetwist says:

eddyjustine888 & otto_vask:

Not a problem! Thanks for checking out my other photos as well!
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STACY RU  Pro User  says:

Did Barack actually say that? I know he doesn't have a plan. But he admitted he doesn't have the ability to run this country, and people still voted for him?!! I don't get it!
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Seetwist says:

STACY RU: Perhaps you don't understand the quote as well as you think you do. That's not what he said at all.

People need to stop with this "Doesn't have a plan" nonsense. That's what Hillary wanted you to think about Barack before she lost to him (over a month ago).
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btsteed says:

Great artwork. Here is some other Obama artwork on Flickr:


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onejamephilly says:

I love this.
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davidwatts1978  Pro User  says:

innit
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jcarwil  Pro User  says:

Haha, he kinda looks like Will Smith. Nice street art design.

Barack Obama EBONY
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Chuck Foxen  Pro User  says:

Great piece. I am a huge supporter.
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Seetwist says:

Obama hates the U.S. Flag, refuses to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance, and hates the words to our Star Spangled Banner.

Bullshit. What do you call this?

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This link debunks your claim about the Star Spangled Banner. Sorry son, you fell you something called "satire." Fell hard, too.

As for you claim about how he "hates the flag"... care to let us know where you heard such a retarded claim? Sean Hannity? Rush Limbaugh? Michelle Malkin? Step up and cite your sources, or shut the fuck up.



He even removed the U.S. Flag from his aircraft.

Also bullshit. He took the large North American Airlines logo (which happens to be a flag) off the tail to add his Obama logo (in the same way that McCain repainted his plane as the Straight Talk Express.) The American flag still remains on the side. See for yourself:

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This was not an act of disrespect towards the flag, this was no different than covering up a Delta or United Airlines logo before repainting it for his campaign travels.


Eloquent speaker my butt. What a brainwashed crowd he has... I wonder if it will be above his 'pay grade' to answer to some of you who are mesmerized by his 'big' words.

Oh, so you preferred a president who spoke about New-q-lar weapons, tearists, misunderestimations and putting food on his family? Or maybe you want a president who doesn't even know how many fucking houses he owns? I rather enjoy the thought of a president who doesn't need a teleprompter to help him out with words that are longer than 2 syllables. But intelligence frightens some people, as you have demonstrated.


I pray to God that we have not gone down so far in this country to vote for this inexperienced newcomer.

You obviously have been in a coma these last 8 years.

PROTIP: Try researching these claims in the future, instead of just repeating the drivel that you receive in your forwarded Talking Points emails. Not just for the sake of your country, but in order to keep from looking and sounding like a complete moron. Honestly, do you still believe that he's a SEKRUT MOOSLIM who terrorist fist-jabs his extremist wife? If you do, then I'm sorry to inform you that John McCain fathered an illegitimate black child.

:facepalm:
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

Hahahaha looks like you scared Mr Jacoby off of flickr alltogether!
thats some funny shit!
Seetwist, I love you man!
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Seetwist says:

Damn, I knew I put him in his place, but I didn't think I spanked him THAT hard. LOL.
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billikidbrand  Pro User  says:

BilliKid_ObamaStencil—RI
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Martin G. Conde  Pro User  says:

Sen. Obama - Integrity, Hard Work & Self-Reliance etc., vs. Sen. McCain & Rowe's Republican Party – To Win, If Worse Comes to Worse: Sex Sells...Even in the U.S. Presidential Election!

www.flickr.com/photos/imperial_fora_of_rome/2 808280269/in...

Thank you
Martin G. Conde
Washington DC, USA
“…yes we can…”
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bandit2009 says:

barack obama sucks and should never be in the offic because he will git us all killed
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bandit2009 says:

he dosen't belive in his own country
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

yeah, bandit totally changed my mind!....hahaha not...

Oh and im still laughing at McCains running mate choice
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

lol no offence you guys as americans are fucking idiots barrack obama will bring change but go along with new world order plans

www.youtube.com/watch?v=apqtqp7EKgM link this
and anyone that calls this out as conspiracy bullshit, whatever do your fucking research straight up take a look fucking around you
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

secret societys now that just sounds like a conspiracy how else can you explain everyone being related
its obviously planned
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Seetwist says:

Bombei

That link is the weakest evidence of a New World Order that I have ever seen. Go look up how to spell "Barack", and when you get to the dictionary, look up "context" as well. Some of the speeches will make more sense to you.


However, just the other day I was reading the new TIME magazine where it has a 'Family Tree' of sorts for Obama and in the bottom left hand corner it shows some ancient connection with bush & cheney dating back to the 1600's saying he's part of the same gene pool or some shit.

I have connections with lots of interesting people in my family tree, which I traced back to 1531.

WTF is going on?!?!?!?!

Coincidence. A noteworthy alignment of two or more events or circumstances without obvious causal connection.

secret societys now that just sounds like a conspiracy how else can you explain everyone being related

Ever heard of 6 degrees of separation? Bombei is a user on Flickr, which is owned by Jerry Yang, who worked with Tom Lantos (a secular jew AND a holocaust survivor!) who is cousin to Zsa Zsa Gabor who married Conrad Hilton, who has a grand-daughter named Paris Hilton. I connected you to Paris in 5 steps. I can probably do it to Bush, Obama and Clinton in just as many.

its obviously planned

WHAT is being planned? Everyone freaks out but nobody can explain exactly what will happen during this New World Order. What the hell is supposed to happen? Is this a biblical thing? Should I be looking on the horizon for 4 horsemen? Are the dead going to rise from the grave when CNN announces Obama as the winner? And what if McCain is elected? Is he not a part of the NWO elite? He's very chummy with Bush and everyone else, are you telling me that if he's elected then the crisis has been averted?

Conspiracy theories are great and all, but believing that George Bush, Dick Cheney and Barack Obama are in a secret club together, planning false-flag attacks in order to restrict our freedom and make us more agreeable so they can take over the world and turn us all into slaves of the Jews is something that not even L. Ron Hubbard could have thought up.
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

wow man ok try to bash idea's just because you don't know exactly what is going on... have you heard of the candidate named ron paul? your making it sound like their are only three choice's just because of the media's control over who they want to see on tv and have the most exposure man isnt it obvious????
do you seriously think they don't already have NWO idea's already put into play. and don't try to use that phony relation bullshit just cause i go on flickr their related by blood!! like are you serious?? man as an american you really don't think outside the box now do you...?
wow and buddy i never said anything about the apocalypses don't try to compare New World Order to the apocalypse... i'm talking about the one world government....!
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

go to youtube watch a film called "zeitgeist" learn about real history
then search "end game" by alex jones
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Seetwist says:

wow man ok try to bash idea's just because you don't know exactly what is going on...

And you do? Please enlighten me, because I keep asking, and nobody will tell me.

have you heard of the candidate named ron paul?

Yep. Changed my registration from a lifetime of being an independent to Republican just so I could vote for him in the primaries. Great guy, shame he lost.

your making it sound like their are only three choice's just because of the media's control over who they want to see on tv and have the most exposure man isnt it obvious????

Three?? Shit, I thought we only had two. Since when do the Green, Libertarian and Constitution parties get anything more than a token nod? Bob Barr goes on Colbert, whoop-de-doo... Nader will take away 2% of independents who might have voted for Obama otherwise, Oh Noes! These third party choices are a joke this time around.

As for exposure, McCain has gotten WAAAY more positive coverage then Obama has. Why do you think that is? Most of the media outlets are run by corporations that have a stake in making weapons and continuing the WAR ON TERRRRR. You think they're going to give favorable coverage to the candidate that wants to end the WAR ON TERRRRR? If you're still afraid of the Liberal Media and using them as a scapegoat, then you're waaaay behind on your talking points.

do you seriously think they don't already have NWO idea's already put into play.

Again, like what? Don't link me to a video, don't tell me to go read Alex Jones' new book, tell me what YOU think these nefarious ideas are.

don't try to use that phony relation bullshit just cause i go on flickr their related by blood!!

[citation needed]

wow and buddy i never said anything about the apocalypses don't try to compare New World Order to the apocalypse

Then what IS it?

i'm talking about the one world government....!

Oh, you mean like the U.N.? Or more like a police squad, like INTERPOL?

OK, here's what I want you to do. Give me a list of the people who are part of this NWO. It doesn't have to be all of them, just the people that YOU know about, like Bush, Cheney, Obama, Brzezinski, Michelle Malkin (according to A.J., anyway). Lemme know who's a part of this evil world government, and I'll be happy to continue the conversation. I won't even insult you, which I apologise for doing in my previous message.

go to youtube watch a film called "zeitgeist" learn about real history

Interesting movie, I'm looking forward to the sequel next month. Not fact, however. Well produced and slick, but please don't tell me you take that movie as 100% truth.

then search "end game" by alex jones

Alex Jones is a sensationalist douchebag. He's also very intelligent, witty and occasionally correct. Unfortunately, his undesirable qualities overshadow his positive ones.
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tsevis  Pro User  says:

Cool graffiti with a great statement!
Barack Obama made out of US flags
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Paul.McGee  Pro User  says:

Seeing this image and reading its message gave me goosebumps and I am British
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fabfunkydiva says:

Thanks for your amazing art. O'BAMA 08!
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[-Sherri-]  Pro User  says:

awesome!!!
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ticklemethu1 says:

hahaha, go seetwist!
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wander aimlessly says:

Obama is amazing. Lovely art as well. The fact that someone would even do that painting of Obama shows what an inspiration he is to America and the world. What a fanstastic day it will be when he becomes our President.

:)

And if he doesn't, he still wins. He will go down in history, either way. I am glad my children will have someone like him to look up to.
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

i actually cant believe how dumb you people are
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

hmmmm post theres a difference between hitler and and obama one's a puppet one isnt
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momishere91910  Pro User  says:

Obama 08
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mariah_stancil says:

obama u is the man u belive in your self an we need
a change an 08an 09 we dnt need another george bush
4 real make a diffrence if u win
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farlane  Pro User  says:

WIRED has a cool article about Shephard Fairey who created the Obama Hope artwork. That lead me to his obeygiant.com where you can download this art for free and where Shephard writes:

I don’t think I’m being overly dramatic when I say that this great country is in danger of remaining in the hands of lunatics who have shrewdly manipulated the bewildered herd into thinking the Republicans are the “populist” or “family values” party. McCain has nine houses and he calls Obama an “elitist”. I’m so disheartened that people are falling for that crap. Let’s push things forward.


And Derek, you ask why folks are supporting Obama. For me, it's because he's the first politician on the national stage in decades who has called on this country to live up to its lofty ideals and not treat the world like a giant pinata, to be smacked brutally with a bat and then to squabble over the candy.

I choose to vote (and work) for peace and hope and the future, not for fear and hatred.
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sapien1982 says:

good luck with the elections , it seems as great your country is you still cant get a decent person to run it!
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Seetwist says:

And Derek, you ask why folks are supporting Obama. For me, it's because he's the first politician on the national stage in decades who has called on this country to live up to its lofty ideals and not treat the world like a giant pinata, to be smacked brutally with a bat and then to squabble over the candy.

Prepare yourself for the deluge of poorly-edited Youtube video links, pictures of dictators/mass murderers and lots of use of the phrase "New World Order"...

A recent study proved that the more you try to change a person like that's mind, the more committed they are to retaining their beliefs. By debating, you are only hurting your cause and strengthening theirs. Just like Creationists, 911 Troofers and Scientologists, they should not be taken seriously. Every person that listens to them just makes them believe that they are changing minds, and those who disagree are just stupid sheeple, regardless of facts, logic or common sense.


Interesting that nobody has answered my questions about McCain and the NWO... I guess someone like Obama, who opposes nearly everything GWB and Cheney do (and is a secret Muslim/Nazi???) is more likely to be a galactic super-villain than McCain, who voted with GWB over 90% of the time.


Have you ever heard about the Georgia Guidestones? If not I suggest reading the whole page. Wiki does a good job here because to this day no one knows who funded the project, who built them there or what they REALLY represent. Also note it's connection to outer space. One thing Wiki doesn't point out is that there is a hole drilled into one of the stones which allows you to view the north star through.

Sigh.... The only people supporting this idea are nutjobs and - once again - hardcore conspiracy theorists and troofers. The Free Press is the number 1 reference point for information about the Guidestones, and the person who seems to have started this whole conspiracy bullshit is "John Connor", and he's only promoting his "Resistance Manifesto". Yeah, nice and reliable sources there, a moron who thinks he's part of the Terminator series, and fleeting (and completely inaccurate) references to Thomas Paine and Freemasonry.

If you look through that Wikipedia history, you'll notice that the entire entry is bullshit. If you believe in this, then chances are you believe that Denver International Airport is the home base for the New World Order, because of the masonic symbols and time capsule displayed there. Oh, and the murals on the walls are NWO-ish too... Don't forget about the runways slightly resembling a swastika! Oh noes!


Meanwhile, our economy is in the shitter, or currency is on it's way to becoming the new Peso, we're all $9,000 in the hole thanks to the buyouts of Freddie, Fannie and the others, and we're still spending trillions of dollars in order to bomb brown people spread democracy.


But electing Obama will bring about the end of times.... *cough*
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

i had to Un fave this so i could fave it again...
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

alright you guys if you see the same bullshit going on and mistakes made the governemnt meant to be covered up
then you know there's nothing actually being changed about the way the government is being run...
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

www.restoretherepublic.com
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Seetwist says:

Seetwist, I actually had a bit of respect for you until reading your last comment.

About Freddie/Fannie? What is there to dispute about that whole fiasco?

For you to deny the existence of the guide stones is straight up ridiculous. Might as well say that stonehenge doesn't exist either. Also, I never even mentioned John Conner and you're putting words in my mouth. I know this is your page but I wasn't even directing my post to you. Lighten up. Where's the PEACE you speak of?

I never denied the existence of the guidestones. I just said that the supposed hidden meaning behind them is bullshit. It's a nice spooky story to tell people, kind of like the Jersey Devil, or Foo Lights in New Mexico, or even the NWO stuff out at DIA that I mentioned before, but it's nothing sinister. Just a goofy project that someone put together in order to ruffle some feathers and give the CTs something to rack their brains over.

I mentioned John Connor because it's an important detail that people either overlook or conveniently leave out. Remember John Titor? That's the internet equivalent of The Georgia Guidestones. Bullshit. Impressive, well-thought-out, oddball bullshit, but bullshit all the same.

I know this is your page but I wasn't even directing my post to you. Lighten up

Doesn't matter, I'd be replying even if this was someone else's page. Sometimes I see things that I am compelled to respond to. Don't take it personally, I've replied to other people's posts on here as well.

As for the pictures of dictators it was more of a joke that I guess you didn't see the same humor in as I did. Delete them if it's that bothersome.

See, it's not though. I see shit like this all the time. People put up an over-the-top comparison or comment about something, intentionally trying to get a rise out of the people they are debating. As soon as someone gets pissed off, then it's suddenly "I wuz jus kiddin u guise lulz!!1!"

It pisses me off, because nobody wants to actually debate, they just want to piss off their opponents so they can claim victory. Proof?

Is the hot topic in this thread still whether or not Obama and Cheney are related by blood? Hey, I never got a link from you NonStopInspiration. Just snide little comments thrown in here and there, nothing of substance. All that talk about sheeple, and yet you're just parroting the ideas of others yourself. Anything substantial you want to add, or are you just going to continue to troll?

As for deleting comments, I'm of the belief that once it's written, it stays. Deleting or altering comments is too Orwellian for me, even if it is just a Flickr page.

We have always been at war with Eastasia...

Funny that you care about this all of a sudden. You know, kucinich, paul, nader and others (all part of the presidential race) had warned you about this for years and have had detailed plans to correct many of these prominent financial problems we are now faced with today. Those same people are all for ending these wars and dismantling this military industrial complex that has taken control of our government with the help of major corporations.

Don't give me this "all of a sudden" bullshit. As I mentioned earlier, I registered as a republican for the first time in my life in order to vote for Paul in the primaries. I donated money to Kucinich's campaign early on. I voted for Nader in 2000, (I guess I am responsible for GWB being elected, so sorry) and for a short time, I even liked Gravel. But Nader is a guaranteed losing vote, Barr is a neocon, and as much as I like the ganj, you'll never catch me voting Green (dislike for Cynthia McKinney aside).

But I guess you'd rather elect a smooth talker that has connections with these same people and mingles within elite globalist organizations who openly write about this agenda you insist on referring to as the "New World Order".

List some of these elite global organizations and their agendas if you don't mind. Not rumors and heresay from some unknown blog, but hard evidence that these cabals exist and are out to destroy the world. PLEASE. I keep asking for them, but nobody comes through.

And a smooth talker as opposed to what? Look, there are 2 choices in November. Here's what we've got:

Obama: Tax cuts for lower and middle class
McCain: Tax cuts for upper class

Obama: Out of Iraq, more focus on Afghanistan
McCain: 100 years in Iraq, bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.

Obama: Eloquent
McCain: Cranky and senile

Obama: Well traveled and intelligent
McCain: Thinks Pakistan and Iraq are neighbors, "Well, I was in a cage for 5 1/2 years and didn't have a chance to travel"...

Obama: Liked by other nations
McCain: VP who hasn't even been to any other nations

Obama: Young, healthy and a smart VP in case something happens
McCain: Old, cancer (twice now), soccer-mom VP in case something happens.


I could go on and on explaining their differences. I am a huge advocate of 3rd party voting, but NOT THIS TIME AROUND. The past few elections have been the two same jerkoffs running against each other. This time around, the country is on the verge of destroying itself from the inside. There are no ifs, ands or buts about this: Obama or McCain will be elected in November. Sorry, that's how it's gonna be. 3rd party voters may shift things one way or another, or finally get that percentage they need to be included on the ballots in 2012, but our president this time around will either be a democrat or a republican. It's just that simple. Looking at the choices between the two, Obama is by FAR a better choice for America.


Anyway, I'm done here. This is getting crazy and I'd rather spend my time & energy elsewhere.

Weren't we talking about this towards the top of the thread? How you were pissed that nobody was debating you and how people were running you out? I believe your comment started with "Finally! Some fucking action!!"

No fair running away now, here's the action you wanted so badly.
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sapien1982 says:

i so hope obama gets voted in , if you ask the rest of the world they want him and not mcain !

if i was american id vote obama.
there are people all over scotland who put posters up about him.

america could be great if you finally get a government not controlled by its military or big companies (ie oil)

all of you americans do the right thing .your country has the power to change the world for good , so do something about it.

oh and ask for the release of nikola teslas papers on free energy, did you know about them????
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sapien1982 says:

dude those people are real!

tooth fairy santa claus and the bunny !
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Grominate.  Pro User  says:

united states have no right to be in iran at all why doesnt obama apose it from the start??
here's your proof that obama isnt FoR THE PEOPLE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJH2n4aFEhA
obama having fun with bill o reilly ?? this ASSHOLE?
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wouldpkr  Pro User  says:

What the hell are you ranting about?
First of all, the precedent of Iran only says what his people want to hear, Tells them one thing and does nothing behind the scenes, hes not going to want to cause any trouble with America, so theres no reason to send the military.
Thats not to say that we shouldn't be talking to them or watching what their doing... (keep your friends close and your enemies closer)
There is nowhere in that vid that he says hes for invading Iran, so you have no point to your post other than Obama is man enough not to fall for OhReally's plays at making him angry and laughs him off....
i don't get it...
How is he an asshole for actually wanting to think any sort of plan through before making a decision that would be world changing?
Furthermore, why would he tell bill fucking OhReally what his plan is, i dont need to know Now what he maybe possibly could be thinking about doing 3 years from now, im more concerned with the economy and what hes going to have to do to fix it.
And on another note, why are you bothering posting at all? who do you support anyway? Ron Paul? heh, seriously, hes not going to win, so why don't you actually start thinking of Your Plan "B" and support the guy that actually has the chance to make a difference?
Ron Paul had some good ideas, unfortunately they were overshadowed by some completely crazy ideas. Hes also nearly as old as McCain and is not a very good public speaker....
The Ability Of Good Public Speech Is Actually Important!
Looking like a retired Keebler Elf is also not good.
Bottom line is, hes not going to win, so, who are you stumping for? are you a McCain supporter? or are you just racist and cant stand to see a black man become president?
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Seetwist says:

Looking like a retired Keebler Elf is also not good.

Coincidentally, that's why Kucinich lost as well... Too bad, his wife is fucking HOT! Say what you will about the presidential runoff this year, but there were tons of smoking hot potential first ladies. =)

Hey, I just thought of a way to get people interested in voting. Have a Playboy (or at least Maxim) spread with the wives of Kucinich, Thompson and Obama. Maybe even Palin, she's an idiot, but she's got that sexy librarian look going on... Lol.


or are you just racist and cant stand to see a black man become presedent?

Ding ding ding! Although they might not admit it, that's definitely an underlying reason for McCain support this time around. McCain is gonna get the racist and the vagina vote this year.


Bottom line is, hes not going to win, so, who are you stumping for?

Doesn't really matter, he's Canadian.


The Ability Of Good Public Speech Is Actually Important!

Yeah, the last 8 years have been proof positive of that!
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Seetwist says:

united states have no right to be in iran at all why doesnt obama apose it from the start??

Obama is all for talks with Iran, Cuba and Venezuela. Bush just wants to launch missiles. Perhaps you should re-study his positions. You seem to be operating off of rumors, lies and fear-mongering.

Do you still believe that he's a secret Muslim, like this week's National Examiner put on the cover? Is your information so scrambled that now you're agreeing with the retarded tabloid newspaper headlines that you see in the grocery store checkout line? Be careful what you read, you're one step away from treating "Bat Boy Found In Cave" as fact.


here's your proof that obama isnt FoR THE PEOPLE
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJH2n4aFEhA
obama having fun with bill o reilly ?? this ASSHOLE?


Are you serious? REALLY?? Good god man! Since when did going on Fox News make you a conservative?? I do find it telling that Obama will go on a very conservative network like FOX in order to be heard by a demographic that he normally wouldn't reach while McCain and Palin run from every interviewer that doesn't lob softball questions at them. I'd LOVE to see Amy Goodman or Keith Olberman rip those two to shreds.

Speaking of videos, is this someone you really want as your possible commander in chief?:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP12aNzocSc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVnhCG2_39w

Scary shit... She still believes that being able to see Russia gives her foreign experience.

Man, the VP debate next week is going to be a barrel full of laughs. If a lightweight like Katie Couric can fluster her and make her completely lose her train of thought, imagine what Biden will do to her. Hell, stick her up against Ron Paul! Even better!
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markeviusjoh says:

Obama-------obama-------where u at---------in office 2008 remember----------obama 08


------a change will come
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leeannatweed says:

yal listen up!!! he says that he is gonna do all this crap 4 our country but he never says how he is going to do it!!! so next time you decide to vote someone b/c of their COLOR remember what they are talking about! i am 12 years old and i already make such good point maybe ill be your president one day!!!
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ONE/MILLION  Pro User  says:

WE NEED MORE CUB SCOUTS

The Cub Scout Promise


I ________ promise to do my best
To do my duty to God and my country,
To help other people, and
To obey the Law of the Pack.

This promise helps Cub Scouts develop a sense of spiritual awareness, loyalty, unselfishness, self-discipline, and service to others.

I ________ promise: A promise is a commitment. To make a promise and then fail to keep it is to break one's word.

To do my best: One person's best is not the same as someone else's best. A Cub Scout should try to better his own record, rather than merely trying to do better than someone else.

To do my duty to God: This phrase means to remember to thank God for good friends, good health, our well-being, our family, and all others who love and help us. Going to worship services is another way of doing our duty to God. We should respect other people's religious beliefs even if they are different from our own.

And my country: Duty to country starts with being a good citizen. This means caring about the people in our communities and helping those in need. Good citizenship also means obeying the law and using our country's resources carefully. We show love for our country by respecting and saluting the U.S. flag and standing at attention when our national anthem is played.

To help other people: For Cub Scouts, helping other people may mean helping at home by taking out the garbage or making their bed without grumbling. A Cub Scout can also help others by befriending a new student in school, making holiday cards for older people, raking leaves or clearing snow for a neighbor, providing games for children living in shelters, or collecting food for people who don't have enough to eat. Helping others is not always easy to do. We must think about other people instead of ourselves—even when it might be inconvenient.

And to obey the Law of the Pack: A Cub Scout should follow the laws of the land, the rules in his school, the rules in his home, and the rules in his den and pack.
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Hoeski says:

Yeah obama!
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Jimbo112857 [deleted] says:

Please view pictures I posted in a folder under my user name,

The Sign is Racialy Offensive towards Senator Barack Obama. The pictures are posted on a sign in this mans front yard in Illinois. He says he is protected under the law by free speech. I think he went to far, let me know what you think.

www.flickr.com/photos/28490332@N05/2936152263 /
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Rebel 2008 [deleted] says:

word just words,

AMERICAN PRIDE !

VOTE - McCAIN - PAILIN

Bring America back the way it use to be before BUSH !


Now if you want the other guy I guess you want what he stands for , Which is . in short !


Vote Obama :

If you want young innocent children thought SEX education !

If you want high taxes .

If you want free speech taken away from you !

If you want your entire freedom taken away from you !

If you want to live with terrorists and radicals
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billikidbrand  Pro User  says:

He's dancing as fast as he can:
I'mDancin'BilliKid!—CT
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farlane  Pro User  says:

I'm thinking of a new tax to develop ways to explain to people that even if you repeat a lie 10,000 times, it's still a lie.

Sex education: to help kindergarteners guard against molestation. Are you telling me McCain is in favor of child molestation?

High taxes: News flash, Champ - unless you're pulling down serious coin, you'll pay more taxes under McCain. And you'll pay taxes on health care.

The party of Free Speech Theft is the party that also took away Habeus corpus. Don't worry if you don't know what that is ... it's gone.

On second thought, DO look up Habeus corpus.

I'm not a fan of terrorists, and don't want my son to be called to fight in another country, creating more terrorists, all because some people can't be bothered to take the time to do the hard work to address the issues that makes people act in such terrible ways.

Dance, John, dance.
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Rebel 2008 [deleted] says:

Farlane guess your part of the Obama damage control team HA HA HA .

www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/07/obamas_r adical_ideas...

This video confirms

abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=3386492

He said Alan Keys used it against him in another campaign . He shakes his head and say I don't know what to tell him. Uh yea because Obama knows it was true. Another thing he said towards the end of this vid. is American people are decent , but get confused a lot . Uh excuse me Obama we wouldn't get so confused if you would tell the truth instead of , lies all the time Barack !!! You speak well have a golden tongue but you are not fooling me, lot of Americans Do not beleave you. Only ones beleaving your golden lies are the young and the ill informed . No thanks Obama I have made my choice and its NOT YOU !
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alicea90 says:

nice
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alex_english2000 says:

wow rebel mccain is a rabiit ow do u like that? only rabbit his arms are always on his chess his dumb he is just guna make the econonmy worst obama u got my vote
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CK'sPhoto says:

you think it's a good idea to tax the rich more? You do realize it is the rich who employ everyone else.. it is the rich who buy most of the goods we make.. we tax the rich to death then we hurt everyone... I'm not saying I'm against tax cuts of the middle class. I'm for the lowest possible taxes across the board... I believe really low taxes for everyone brings in bussiness.. why do you think companies are leaving the US.. it's because it's so much cheaper to be elsewhere.. our tax system sucks.
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