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Silos by scriptingnews.
When people talk about silos in computers, they're thinking about piles of data that are used by one application that can't be used by others. 

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ambimb says:

Responding to your post on Scripting News that iApps=lock-in: It's easy to get your photos out of iPhoto -- it's actually great b/c it saves originals of all files that you can then use anywhere in any other program. Plus it's easy to email your photos, publish them to the web, publish them on flickr (via a plugin), etc. Lockin? How do you figure?

iTunes is similar, so long as you don't buy music from the iTMS or convert your mp3s to AAC files. If you buy Apple's DRM files, yeah, you're locked in. If you just use mp3s, there's zero lockin b/c iTunes is then using a very open and nearly universal format.

iWeb? It still has issues, but they're working on it. iCal uses some pretty standard formats, too, so you can share your calendars online, export them to other software, etc.

I'm just a user and I could complain about Apple all day, but I can find bigger problems than lockin to complain about.
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Pete Prodoehl  Pro User  says:

Almost every iApp has an Export or Share or Burn command that actually makes it pretty simple to get your data out. I use most of them, and none of my data is locked up in some format I can't get at.
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jamielnathan says:

I respect your work Dave but the comment on lock-in is ridiculous.

I agree with everything said in this rebuttal:
homepage.mac.com/lesposen/blogwavestudio/LH20 040820224513...
Posted 43 months ago. ( permalink )

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sben  Pro User  says:

Dude. iApps == lockin only in the sense that they're so pleasant to use that I don't care to try any alternative.

Re planned obsolescence: My six-year-old Cube, which wasn't particularly powerful when it was brand new, runs OS X 10.4 perfectly well. (Granted, I won't try installing 10.4 on a five-year-old iBook which has 384MB ... but that's not too different from the Windows world, either.)
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Pete Prodoehl  Pro User  says:

6 year old cube eh? Yeah, my 8 year old PowerBook can only run 10.1.5, but my 5 year old G4 is running 10.4 ok. (Though I did drop in a 1.6 gig upgrade card.)
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Nollind [deleted] says:

I added this question to the blogwavestudio comments but I thought someone here might know as well.

How do you export Mail messages so they can be imported into another email client (i.e. Thunderbird, Outlook Express, Outlook, etc). And how do you export Safari bookmarks so that they can be imported into another browser. (Hmm, actually I think I couldn't export the Address Book either but that should have vcard support right?) I tried this a while back and saw no way to do it, yet I thought this would be simple to do. Any tips on how to do this easily would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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hejazzman says:

How do you export Mail messages so they can be imported into another email client (i.e. Thunderbird, Outlook Express, Outlook, etc).

Checkout this program:
www.mailsteward.com/

Alternatively, there exist Applescripts etc that do the exporting from the individual mails store in your /Library/Mail

And how do you export Safari bookmarks so that they can be imported into another browser.

How about File -> Export Bookmarks ?

There are also dedicated programs for that, freeware et al.

Doh!
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