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Why It Was Okay to Fornicate With Your Sister Back in the Day

Why It Was Okay to Fornicate With Your Sister Back in the Day by John Scalzi.
Possibly the most squick-inducing placard of the whole Creation Museum. 

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Jaime Lee  Pro User  says:

Wow. Who knew incest was okay back in the day?

And the lengths they go to justify it are...amazing. That's the word, amazing.

Or stupid. Take your pick.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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sjunsk3 says:

I do not think the writer of this placard has ever read a popular article on population genetics.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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demoncrat says:

So mutations are accumulating over time. Good to know. At this rate, in another thousand years or two, people won't be allowed to marry anyone of the same color for fear of giving birth to Morlocks. Given the other beliefs of this particular subset of people, that's going to put them in quite the pickle.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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aliasadsum says:

Thats good, because I was kind of worried about how Lot's 2 daughters got him drunk and slept with him to produce his sons. I was worried that might be wrong. (in genesis 19:30-38)
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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Nina Surr says:

Logical follow-along - so if a modern person is particularly 'pure' and comes from a long line of Gawd-fearing folks, it's perfectly all right for him to...

Urgh. Ick with a side order of yuck.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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Draconus7 says:

o.0

Christ on a crutch.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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Blue Cockatoo  Pro User  says:

oh man, I wish you'd gotten the full text on that one. I think it would have been about as close as I've ever been to an LSD trip to follow that path of logic and come back out again.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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jazzmodeus  Pro User  says:

I'd just like to say that they clearly thought about this too much.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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outlanderssc says:

Nina Surr -

I'm guessing you haven't been following the Warren Jeffs trial very closely
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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ahecht says:

You cut off the best line on that poster, which has one of the most logically inconsistant statements in the whole museum. The paragraph marked 4 ends with:

At the time of Adam and Eve's childred, there would have been very few mutations in the human genome--thus close relatives could marry, and provided it was one man for one woman (the biblical doctine of marriage).
Emphasis there is mine. This conveniently chooses to ignore the many polygamous figures in the bible, such as Abraham (3+ wives), David (18+ wives), Esau (3 wives), Jacob (4 wives), Moses (2 wives), Saul (2 wives), Solomon (700 wives + 300 concubines), etc.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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knomenomi says:

They just acknowledged the basis of evolution. If you have mutations animals have to evolve, because if there is diversity then successful animals get to pass their traits on. Eat that Jerry. You fuckers just dropped your whole argument down the drain.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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Unity Gain  Pro User  says:

Ugh. I swore I wasn't looking at this any longer.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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blackbear88  Pro User  says:

Bluegrass Roots did a blog entry when the museum first opened which contains a pretty readable shot of this entire panel; it blew my mind. See it here: i127.photobucket.com/albums/p125/cubswin39/Cr eation%20Mus...
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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mavra_chang  Pro User  says:

I got a shot of the text when I went, because, yeah, it was too insane not to document...

www.flickr.com/photos/mavra_chang/897966183/i n/set-721576...
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www.flickr.com/photos/mavra_chang/897968189/i n/set-721576...
www.flickr.com/photos/mavra_chang/897969255/i n/set-721576...

I like how it gets all self-rightious and pissy at the end.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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cabri  Pro User  says:

People who do not accept the Bible as their absolute authority have no basis for condemning someone like Cain marrying his sister.

Whoa.

Just ... whoa.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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snackmaster2007 says:

I love the pissy part!

I'm sure the explanation of what counts as incest will be invaluable to the museum's visitors, though I'm sure some will be wishing it were a little more detailed (e.g. does 'close relatives' include aunts, uncles, and cousins too? What about half-sisters?).
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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bobtiki  Pro User  says:

So, wait. The sign says that "sexual activity outside of the bounds of marriage ... has been wrong from the beginning" (point #5).

So, where does the Bible say that Adam and Eve were married? As far as I can tell, marriage isn't even mentioned until Genesis 19:14. But, I'm no biblical scholar-- Just a dude who was raised in a Baptist private school whose parents later converted to Seventh-Day Adventism, and then came to his senses and turned atheist once he got out of the house.

Also, I second the "whoa," re: "People who do not accept the Bible as their absolute authority have no basis for condemning someone like Cain marrying his sister. " Seems like that pretty much boils down to "It's a [insert minority here] thing, you wouldn't understand!"
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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miss_delirium says:

...and to think my Sunday School teacher complained to my parents because I asked that exact same question.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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godfry says:

Geez...I thought he picked up his wife over in Nod, where another creation was going on. Maybe even with some other god.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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CJH / esper  Pro User  says:

Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod [...]

Oh, crap – Cain was a junkie hooked on smack.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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nekura_ca says:

Ooooohhhhhh..... I get it now.

Some photo's back, there was an acknowledgment in the placards that mutation existed, and that "survival of the fittest" existed, leading readers to assume that meant that they [the creationist museum] admitted that evolution was real. But here we see the "truth":

1. All mutations are "EVIL" (because anything coming from Adam's sin is evil.)
2. The "Fittest" are just the ones with the fewest mutations.
3. "Evolution" is a one way course, downhill.

You know, selfishness was introduced to genes because of Adam's sin.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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linnaeaariel  Pro User  says:

I think we can see now while Bible thumping and sibling humping are so closely intertwined in some geographic regions of our fair land. "The Bible says its okay!"
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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Respen says:

Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod [...]

Cain was a member of the GDI?
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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Wrenn__ says:

This in Kentucky, right? not West Virginia?
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∂racoNian solo on C says:

silly...
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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hyperhaggis19  Pro User  says:

@Respen. LOLZ! Made funnier by the existence of Kane as the leader of the Nod faction...*geek*

My first thought though was that here in the UK there's a small village called the Land of Nod not too far from the seaside resort Scarborough...
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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cujonz says:

So because I hold morals which differ from those set in the bible, namely that a dude shouldn't bone his sister, I have no right to say that's wrong.

Well I say that sex ouside of marriage is perfectly ok if it's consentual, and people who do accept the bible as their absolute authority have no basis for condemning someone like me not being married when I get my freak on.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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[Soren] says:

You know, they probably could have skated right past the whole issue. That they chose to emphasize it is... telling.
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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jenesys says:

And the next placard reads:

People who do not accept the Bible as their absolute authority have no basis for condemning someone like a man of the cloth for molesting children.
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

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i know things says:

"sexual activity between close relatives who are not married" so having sex with your half-brother is ok if you are married?

ahecht says:
This conveniently chooses to ignore the many polygamous figures in the bible, such as Abraham (3+ wives), David (18+ wives), Esau (3 wives), Jacob (4 wives), Moses (2 wives), Saul (2 wives), Solomon (700 wives + 300 concubines), etc.

"people who do not accept the bible as their absolute authority have no basis for condemning..." weird, oh Flying Spaghetti Monster! help my hed explody!
Posted 24 months ago. ( permalink )

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Probably Harmless says:

> Logical follow-along - so if a modern person is particularly 'pure' and comes from a long line of Gawd-fearing folks, it's perfectly all right for him to...

You know, I could have lived happily without reading that. :P

But it does explain a few things...
Posted 6 months ago. ( permalink )

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