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Greek Schengen Visa

Greek Schengen Visa by Paul Watson.
For the Passport group. My Schengen visa for Greece in 2003. 

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Pissy  Pro User  says:

What in the world is 'Etats Schengen'? I realize it's French, but 'Shengen'? The Shengen States?
Posted 52 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Watson  Pro User  says:

It is the name of an agreement between several EU countries. You can read more about it here.
Posted 52 months ago. ( permalink )

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Pissy  Pro User  says:

And yet.... South Africa is not a member of the European Union... never mind - I'm not prying. If you're an undercover intelligence agent, your secret's safe with me!
Posted 52 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Watson  Pro User  says:

hehe. Not being a citizen of the EU I have to get a Schengen Visa to visit most of the countries in the EU.

4 more years in Ireland and I'll be able to visit without visas.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

mikicam [deleted] says:

Etat is French for State, so Etats Schengen means nothing else but the "Schengen States", These include old EU members, excluding UK and Eire, but include Norway and Iceland, who are not in the EU yet. The EU newcomer States are still far from being the part of the Agreement.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andreas who has left [deleted] says:

"mikicam" was not right about the new members of the EU and their joining Schengen agreement. This week, exactly on December 21st, 2007 at 0:00 most of 10 countries who joined EU in 2004 are opening their borders and become part of the "Schengen Zone". Thus if one gets a Schengen visa, may come to Estonia, start the journey here and go to Portugal with no border posts, with no passport or visa checking. The same - may start journey in Sicily and go to north of Norway and omit the country borders. The latests new EU memebers (joined EU on January 1st 2007) will join Schengen agreement in few years, but before Switzerland (who is not a part of the European Union) will.
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Watson  Pro User  says:

You still have to plan your entire trip, Königsdorff. The authorities don't appreciate Schengen visa holders going into countries that they didn't list in their initial itinerary. And if you do encounter an official in a non-planned country then they are allowed to chuck you out.
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andreas who has left [deleted] says:

Oh, this is new to me. In fact I need no visa since I live in Poland - "Schengen Zone" member in 35 hours from now (it will be Dec. 21st 2007, 0:00). But all media here claim that if one gets a Schengen visa then is allowed to take a journey anywhere wants in the area. And there are to be 2 major types of visas:
1. Schengen visa for up to 3 months of validity - covering entire Schengen Zone.
2. Long term national visa which allows to stay for 6 months in particular country, but with no permition to go to another country despite being in Schengen Zone.
Maybe the journalists simplify the description too much? If so, I believe it would be better to list each Schengen Zone country on the visa form.

You ain't got Irish passport and need a visa to go to the continent?
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Watson  Pro User  says:

I am on a South African passport and I live in Ireland. To visit any Schengen country I have to get a visa from the embassy of the country I am visiting. If my trip includes two or more countries then I go to the embassy of the country I am staying the longest in. But I have to list to which countries I will be going e.g. I went skiing in Austria but landed in Germany so I got an Austrian Schengen Visa with a trip itinerary including Germany.
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andreas who has left [deleted] says:

I see. It seems Schengen Zone is more focused on the people who live there (here), which is good to us - we can travel with no restrictions and with no controls, but obvioulsy it is not that good for non-Schengen people. Still it is enough if you get one visa - as in your example with Germany and Austria - instead of few ones, which is a kind of profit for the guests too.
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andreas who has left [deleted] says:

One more question regarding the visa you display on the photo above. It is from the Greek consulate and is valid for Schengen States. Do they issue an additional document with listed those countries you applied to go to?
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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Paul Watson  Pro User  says:

They don't but if they find out, either while you are on your trip or later on when you apply for another Schengen visa, then they can refuse you entry.

Part of the Schengen Visa process involves listing your entry and exit points and then where you are staying each and every night (hotels, camp sites, B&B etc.)

For outsiders the Schengen process is a pain in the arse and is used by some countries like Switzerland to strictly regulate "undesired" tourists/foreigners (basically high-risk tourists who may never leave once in.)

The USA on the other hand gave me a 10 year multi-entry visa. Thanks Europe :)
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andreas who has left [deleted] says:

I see. If you were a Pole (Poland's citizen) you wouldn't get any USA visa, I suppose. They say they have too many Poles there already and they prefer not to let in any Poles (except artist, journalists, etc. of course). They don't realise it is not worth to go to the States in the way most Poles did - for a few years of hard working and then to come back. USD is too cheap...

I generally know what you mean about Switzerland, but they are not in Schengen Zone yet! Recently some part of te people there do not want ANY foreigner. They believe they are still World's Leading Power in economy. I am afraid they are not anyway.

Because of Schengen rules several thousands of people from Ukraine, Kazakstan and Belaruss search their documents, roots, and national archives to proof they have Polish origin (circa half of Poland was cut off in 1945 and given to Ukraine and Belaruss, tremendous number of people from Poland were kidnapped by the Soviets and settled in Kazakstan or Siberia if not killed). Thus they will be eligible to get a special status and be treated nearly as those with Polish passport in the Schengen Zone.

What a stir!

These days the border fences are being disassembled in Central Europe. Finally.
Posted 19 months ago. ( permalink )

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xjessie007 says:

"If you were a Pole (Poland's citizen) you wouldn't get any USA visa, I suppose."

It is correct. Poles do not need Schengen visa as they are part of the Schengen zone. See here for a list of countries whose citizens need schengen visa:
Who needs Schengen visa

"I generally know what you mean about Switzerland, but they are not in Schengen Zone yet!"

Switzerland joined the Schengen zone last December. See here for a complete list of Schengen zone countries:

Schengen zone countries
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Andreas who has left [deleted] says:

I am familair with those information you provided. Notice, my previous comment was from December of year 2007!
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