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Arun's advice

poor little creature...here - let me scratch it...
Arun's advice by Pandiyan.
Indian Rock Python
Python molorus

Here is an instance, for a change, Arun cautioned me against going closer to his face! I wanted to get down to get to see if I could catch the heat sensing pits of this python but was told it can charge if irritated. So I had to contend with a top down shot.

Pythons are not venomous but can deliver a painful bite. Along with reticulates and boas these are very popular in giant pet trade. And their skin too fetches a good price. So they are becoming rarer in the wild and their current status is near threatened.

These pythons are smaller than Reticulated Pythons and also their cousins African Rock pythons. They grow upto 18 feet. Unlike us they don't spend much time finding and eating food. If they eat a good meal, say, their own weight they can go on for a full year before the next meal! Imagine if we had it like that.

I have talked to experts and searched all over the net. There has been no authentic record of pythons killing humans. Biggest meal they have taken is a small mammal and nothing more. But still the myth of pythons crushing humans and cows and such persists.

And they don't actually crush their prey. They constrict them to suffocate. Then they swallow the prey whole. Unlike many other snakes they move in a straight line. Snake scholars call it rectilinear progression.

You might have seen her baby here. 
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shivanayak  Pro User  says:

Wow, only skin texture makes me feel a kind of feeling !

Nice capture. Angle and expsoure are nice.
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stellarremix says:

WOW!!
awesome capture!!
verycool
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mutbka says:

What a beautiful snake! I know the snake's beauty can be deadly, but I have been always fascinated by these creatures. I doubt I that would ever consider it as a pet though.
Still this is interesting how these animals are balancing between ultimate admiration and ultimate fear in human consciousness.
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Reciprocity  Pro User  says:

That's close enough for me too Pandiyan. Good job you've got Arun around as your 'minder'. A wonderful shot and a beautiful crop. The refections are excellent at showing up the skin texture. Once again thanks for the information.
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Loutron Glouton  Pro User  says:

Wonderful ! What a fantastic creature !
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Matt McGee  Pro User  says:

Snakes scare the hell out of me, but this is an amazing photo! Wow!

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Kaushik says:

Chilling shot!
Reminded me of being mesmerized by Kaa in the movie "The Jungle Book" which I saw as a kid.
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silviaON  Pro User  says:

cool shot!

(1-2-3 Nature)
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annabellafranc [deleted] says:

fantastic shot !!!
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lanier67  Pro User  says:

i hate snakes, fantastic shot
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks everyone for the visit. It is really heartening that many people take interest in snakes.

mutbka, I loved that satement on balancing the ultimate admiration and ultimate fear in our consciousness.

Kaushik, not many writers portray snakes in a positive light. Kipling's original Kaa is a great character, very powerful and wise. He was friendly to Mowgli. Unfortunately, Disney made him a negative character. Commerce and marketing thrive by perpetuating irrational fears and insecurities. Thanks for pointing out the connection.
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Supriya O says:

Great shot and info, Pandiyan..
It's kinda scary in large size..
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langkawi  Pro User  says:

Great photo. Thanks for getting so close so we don't have to...
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Jimmy_Joe  Pro User  says:

Cool looing snake! Nice photo!
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bill.fu  Pro User  says:

Great shot and I would say you were close enough.
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vsz says:

What a gorgeous snake, awesome shot man!
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Rahul Sadagopan  Pro User  says:

What a creature!!!
love the texture on the skin.
Thanks Pandiyan for sharing & the info.
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yeimaya  Pro User  says:

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Just realized I could do this too.... so I am hunting around my favorite images and people.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks everyone for this wonderful response.

Thanks Gale for the invite. I am submitting it to the pool. Looks very good,
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frogmuseum2  Pro User  says:

Beautiful shot, Pandiyan! I've never seen one of these before. I've known many folks who have had 6foot Ball Pythons for pets (amazingly gentle the ones I knew) but they did not have such colors! The Pet Shop here in this tiny town still sells the Ball Pythons. A bit pricey they are, but I know the owner well. She lets me handle all the new creatures (for instance, she will not pick up a tarantula unless I've checked it out first! :-O).

It's amazing how so many people, here too, have a great fear of reptiles and all manner of creatures. I dunno why nothing bothers me. The biggest snake I've ever seen was probably 20ft. long, if not more. Anaconda. Part of a show called "Snakes Alive" meant to show people that snakes are really beautiful, and not "evil." Very informative, and I got to be one of the handlers. The anaconda was dangerous. We had to hold it side by side, all of us lined up, and the 12in. section I held made my arms ache for days. I felt sorry for it, out of its natural habitat, though it was treated with great care and love.

ah, sorry for the morning ramble. I need coffee! :-)
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks Mike. You are amazing. That expression 'been there, done that' has been coined especially for you, I guess. US is big market for exotic pets I am told.

I have never seen an anoconda and the silly movies of that name does not count. Said to be the heaviest snake and almost double the weight of a Reticulated python, the length champion. The ret we have here is grown so big that even the keepers can't handle it alone. So I can imagine how much must an anaconda weigh. Arun's job in this farm is similar to your snakeshow. But still there is deep fear in most people. It is a primal fear, I guess. But it is okay as long it does not degenerate into hate.

And if I remember right, contrary to popular belief, tarantulas are not that dangerous to humans.
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waɪ.tiː  Pro User  says:

I always remember a visit at school from a man with a boa - a wonderful creature - it dispelled any illusions I had had about cold and slimy creatures. Mind you I prefer the non-poisonous varieties.

Personally though - not a pet. Esp if I had to feed it. Eew.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Snakes are not slimy at all. Literally and figuratively. And I too go with the no-pets approach. Not because I have to feed it. You feed the snakes once in a while but you have to feed the children fourtimes a day and we are doing it!
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waɪ.tiː  Pro User  says:

Kids eh!
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satosphere  Pro User  says:

Pythons like these are better left off in the wild, so that they dont forget their wild instincts, which are quite necessary to survive.

I love the closeup shot of the python. I havent gotten that close to any snake, apart from a harmless egg-eating snakes
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.krissy. [deleted] says:

Great shot, Pandiyan! You're brave to get as clos as you did! This is rather interesting, and I'm glad you shared it! :-D
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks friends.

Kris, I was brave as my other angel, Arun was nearby!

Sathish, sentiments I agree with totally.
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jinxmcc  Pro User  says:

What a fine shot of this beautiful creature!
The question of our fears of animals is one that fascinates me too. It seems that for most people there's one kind of creature that causes the skin to crawl and the tummy to flutter. Spiders, snakes, and rats seem to be the most common, and of course each of those can be dangerous in certain circumstances. But why one and not the other? the rational explanations fall a bit short.
For me, spiders are the terrifying creatures, and that makes sense because black widow spiders were common where I grew up. But I have only a healthy respect and much admiration for snakes, yet rattlesnakes were also fairly common around my childhood home.
I'd guess it's a combination of "instinct" (ingrained aversion) plus what one is taught as a young child. Which brings me to a question: in my part of the world crocodiles and alligators exist only in zoos, and I can't remember encountering anyone who had that beyond-rational fear of them. What about in areas where they do exist wild? are there people who are crocodile-phobic?
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks Jinx. You are very right insaying that fear has two aspects to it. The instinct which probably has a survival value and comes as part of a collective legacy and what we pick up and internalise as we grow up and get exposed to events and interpretations. So perhaps our fears may be the window to our past!

I for one who is all for animals is actually very aversive to cuddling them or handling them be they birds, snakes or dogs.

On crocs, yes, they are feared. Whereever crocs and humans have coexisted there is bound to be some stories of someone getting mauled and that becomes so ingrained in the minds. Folktales, stories, 'expert' accounts are born and the picture gets set in the collective imagination. Yes, people here very afraid of crocs. More than necessary just as they are afraid of tigers.
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Calovi  Pro User  says:

amazing shot! perfect light, detail and so sharp!
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digitaleye81 says:

Wonderful photograph, but ......

Creepy when viewed in larger sizes. I really really hate snakes, they have been an anathema since my childhood. Snake as a pet ........ ewwwww.....
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John Suler  Pro User  says:

Wow. What a shot... Snakes in particular conjur up all sorts of primitive, archetypic fears. They are very powerful (and usually negative) symbols in dreams and myths.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks Calovi.

Thanks Murali. Are you sure you 'hate' snakes? Not just 'dislike' them or be afraid of them. I too am afraid of them so is my son who is braver than I am! They are unpredictable and they are powerful. But I am yet to meet anyone who is harmed by a snake. But I have met many people who have killed one.

In fact, I too killed a snake once when I was around 20 or so. We had gone to a forest reserve and stayed in the remote guesthouse. At midnight the dog started barking intermittently. When we plucked up the courage to investigate we went out and switched on the verandah light. There in the lawn was a snake, reasonably long. Everyone panicked and I did too. We were sort of stood transfixed. I don't know what came over me, I picked up a big stone nearby and dropped it on the snake's head, from a reasonable distance of course. It couldn't survive that. One of my friends said that snakes had many lives and hence we threw more stones.

Momentarily I felt like a hero, acting so bravely when others could not. After a while I came out of the trance. And I never felt so miserable in my life. Ever. Till today. I realised to my horror I was nowhere as brave and nowhere as reasonable as thought I was. I was so savage acting out an instinctive response without any thinking whatsoever. The snake of course was identified later as extremely harmless. Even during event it was just confused and trying to escape the dog which was circling it from a safe distance.

The snake must have been very afraid and very justifiably so. And we will never know whether snake hated us or the dog.

Sorry for the long ramble but I couldn't help it.

John, I know, psychologists have a lot to say on this. I suppose the reason could be the relatively puny look most snakes have and the shock that people around the victim get when they see the person succumb and convulse to death because of that creature. Poisonous deaths must have been so perplexing and appeared almost magical to them. This must have been a common scene in the earlier times of human history. And the humankind is yet to forget those early memories.
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photo fiddler  Pro User  says:

Your photostream provides so many double features - super image and information.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks photo-fiddler for the appreciation.
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Monika N.  Pro User  says:

A beauty!
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yeimaya  Pro User  says:

(((Pandiyan)))) I am convinced these kinds of personal stories can do more than just about anything else to increase awareness and empathy. Thank you. Another Pandiyan quote I don't want to lose.

As a matter of fact I hope you don't mind that I have put a link to this whole dialogue in Voices and in Indigenous eyes.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

That was a dark episode in my life, Gale. One I am ashamed of even today. But I hope my kids make up for it and I shall help them in any way I can.
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yeimaya  Pro User  says:

Hello morning here... evening there? Internet magic!

I've set up a place for this picture in Voices check it out!!

Also I can't seem to get the HTML code for your pictures even though you have a creative commons and we are friends.... any idea why? I wanted to put that in for you
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Good morning, Gale. The pictures are in both the places. Gini posted one of them. So I really don't know why you couldn't get the code. Has your browser been disabled for scripts? I really don't know.

Thanks for starting the discussions in those fora. Should be interesting.
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yeimaya  Pro User  says:

Pandiyan I could get it for a couple other of your pictures, just not the python. Very mysterious.

If you wish feel free to delete all this technical discussion so the important python discussion gets full attention.

It seems this discussion is at the heart of many human/animal problems... very important.
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kikikiliii says:

You know, about snakes and spiders in particular...

There was cross-cultural study done sometime recently (and I wish I could recall the source) that concluded that there are actually cross-cultural 'fears' of certain animals. They made a strong case that this is not necessarily biological or innate, though there is a significant possibility of there being 'template' for fear of spiders and snakes.

Spiders and snakes evoke particularly strong specific reactions across Asian and European cultures for potentially different reasons (fear of disease vs fear of predation). Is it cultural? Probably to some degree. But our wild ancestors would likely have done the same-- thrown the snake out of the house were it not dangerous, and killed it were it dangerous.

The thing is, our wild ancestors knew the difference, and knew about the world in a very different way. The zoo tourist reaction to the python is another story altogether.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

That was interesting kikiiliii. Let me look up more on this.

Yes, zoos are not things to have in the ideal world. Better for animals to be free. At best they serve as a means of education in the interim.
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Sparky2*  Pro User  says:

This is a wondrous image - and dialogue, Pandiyan...I'm so glad I found it (thanks, Gale).

I tried to read all, and if I read correctly this beauty (shiverrrring, in spite of) was not in the wild, but some sort of show?
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Gale Franey  Pro User  says:

Wow !! Fave !!
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks Sparky and Gale.

Sparky, this is not a wild one. This is from a crocodile farm which is a Herpetology Research Centre. It is a non-commercial organisation engaged in studies and programs on conservation, education etc. They work mostly on crocodiles, snakes and turtles and tortoises. They breed them and release them in the wild or exchange them with zoos and parks.

They are also a recognised gene pool centre and they have 16 of the 23 crocodilian species. They do allow visitors in their farm and have no organised shows as such. It is usually the keepers or the volunteers (like my son) explaining things to the visitors.
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PARS says:

Great shot!
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tawfique says:

scratch?? this guys head? no thanks! very nice shot pandiyan..:)
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks PARS.

Tawfique, nice seeing you after a long time. Must be neck deep in your research. It is Ravages who wants to scratch his head. Not me :)
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Sweetu_chennai says:

I hate snakes.. But nice shot..
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Rahul Sadagopan  Pro User  says:

pandiyan,
I love snakes... but from a distance.

just read your story in ravages stream & thought i'd say hello.
"hello my firend"
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks Rahul. One small news. My son who has work experience as one of his subjects in school has chosen to work in the snake park. So expect more snake pictures.
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Rahul Sadagopan  Pro User  says:

I'm coming over to spend a week at your house Pandiyan. :-p!!!
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

You are welcome. But we have no snakes at home!
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Gandolfo says:

Arun was right snakes can charge if provoked, luckilly it's not poisonous. Disable your flash if you decide to do that again; they treat that as a threat sometimes.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks Gandolfo (I am pretty quick, aren't I !) and Moggiedog.
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Mrs. Raven says:

Lovely photo of this snake. His patterning is beautiful. You were right not to get too close to his face, though. They are attracted by exhaling breath, and could strike at your face. I think that snakes are the most fascinating creatures on earth.
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Pandiyan  Pro User  says:

Thanks, Mrs Raven.
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HGHjim  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Herpetology / Everything REPTILE & AMPHIBIAN, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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gehmflor says:

Hi, Nice Shot! I've always liked snakes, but thought this pic fit well in my blog: We have reason to be nervous.
blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.vi ew&frien...
If you'd like me to remove it, let me know. It does link back to your page.

Thanks!
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OldUncleMe  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Boidae, and we'd love to have this added to the group!

Great photo and article. Beautiful animal too!
Please gather up all of your boidae and come join us in Boidae.

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tcondit82 says:

Hello,

I've just found your beautiful photograph and wanted to ask your permission about using it.

My email is tcondit82@gmail.com I would love to give you credit and a link on my website once it's up but please contact me for details.

Thank you,
Tom
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callista78539 says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Wild Biology, and we'd love to have this added to the group!

fantastic!
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