Indeed it seems, "they" (the people
that use your product or service) are the
message. Their life and interests will shape
your business, if you're doing things right.
I'm wanting to be with you. I like the look
of your commune but as someone who works in
marketing for a range of clients - some big
and with end users who frankly don't know
what a PC is - the oppoortunity to engage in
a conversation even a distributed one - with
their audience is very very limited. for
many of these companies what you're aspiring
to isn't even idealistic, it's just not not
logical.
My other query is 'does it scale'. I buy
'creating passionate users' but trying to
hold conversations with lots of people and
organise that feedback into a big
organisation is nigh impossible. It doesn't
mean you shouldn't try of course - and with
trials and 'edge' products and services that
approach makes sense - but 'push' marketing
like advertising is inevitably going to be
better ns such circumstances. And Dan Hills post on 'ripples' shows how push / broadcast media can be part
of a wider 'experience' that incorporates
your pinko stuff ;-)
So what happens if Riya blows wide open [as I
hope it does!]? what happens when you want to
extend the service beyond the 'edge', to a
more mainstream audience? Do you rely on
'mavens', does the business strategy support
that kind of 'organic'/WOM approach?
And what happens if Roya doesn't blow open?
do you 'resort' to more traditional
approaches to try and communicate your
message rather than try and [re]convince the
people who won;t say nice things about you...
sorry to push the point, only I'm curious and
want to move beyond 'markets as
conversations' for web 2.0 to see what the
learning is for larger organisations... or
maybe that's the pinko point... that the
future is just for fragmented groups of
people in on the conversation?
Well...in scenario A (which I hope happens,
too!), I like the strategy of continuing to
support the mavens.
In scenario B (doesn't happen), well, there
is something wrong with the product IMO. Like
the Threadless guys say, "If our
community kills us, maybe we deserve to
die" (metaphorically, of course). I have
pretty good faith this isn't the case. ;)
I think Pinko Marketing works in a broader,
more mainstream market. I just have to start
to investigate how. No real precedents have
been set up.
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luxuryluke (87 months ago | reply)
In PinkoMarketing, the marketing owns YOU.
miss_rogue (87 months ago | reply)
...or more like the people that you used to market "to" turn that communication around...Totally. Relinquish all control and enjoy the ride. ;)
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quadmod (87 months ago | reply)
Indeed it seems, "they" (the people that use your product or service) are the message. Their life and interests will shape your business, if you're doing things right.
Love Pinko Marketing, keep it coming.
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JamesB (87 months ago | reply)
Hey Miss,
I'm wanting to be with you. I like the look of your commune but as someone who works in marketing for a range of clients - some big and with end users who frankly don't know what a PC is - the oppoortunity to engage in a conversation even a distributed one - with their audience is very very limited. for many of these companies what you're aspiring to isn't even idealistic, it's just not not logical.
My other query is 'does it scale'. I buy 'creating passionate users' but trying to hold conversations with lots of people and organise that feedback into a big organisation is nigh impossible. It doesn't mean you shouldn't try of course - and with trials and 'edge' products and services that approach makes sense - but 'push' marketing like advertising is inevitably going to be better ns such circumstances. And Dan Hills post on 'ripples' shows how push / broadcast media can be part of a wider 'experience' that incorporates your pinko stuff ;-)
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miss_rogue (87 months ago | reply)
@JamesB,
I don't know if it scales and if it should. I still believe that 'one size does not fit all'. I mostly appeal to new companies doing niche work.
I'd like to think that this could be applied, but correctly, in a larger context, though. Maybe we'll find examples. ;)
JamesB (87 months ago | reply)
HI,
So what happens if Riya blows wide open [as I hope it does!]? what happens when you want to extend the service beyond the 'edge', to a more mainstream audience? Do you rely on 'mavens', does the business strategy support that kind of 'organic'/WOM approach?
And what happens if Roya doesn't blow open? do you 'resort' to more traditional approaches to try and communicate your message rather than try and [re]convince the people who won;t say nice things about you...
sorry to push the point, only I'm curious and want to move beyond 'markets as conversations' for web 2.0 to see what the learning is for larger organisations... or maybe that's the pinko point... that the future is just for fragmented groups of people in on the conversation?
miss_rogue (87 months ago | reply)
Hey James,
Well...in scenario A (which I hope happens, too!), I like the strategy of continuing to support the mavens.
In scenario B (doesn't happen), well, there is something wrong with the product IMO. Like the Threadless guys say, "If our community kills us, maybe we deserve to die" (metaphorically, of course). I have pretty good faith this isn't the case. ;)
I think Pinko Marketing works in a broader, more mainstream market. I just have to start to investigate how. No real precedents have been set up.
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