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leafy says:

... yeah, but as a weak loser, he doesn't have the power to make any change at all ... better some than the GOP ...
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Laser Burners says:

nader got most of his change in long before he dabbled in politics...
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Luna Park says:

i'd like to see a strong third party enter the fray of american politics, but don't think nader is the one to lead it.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

MonkyArtyPrints says:

this is fantastic!
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Reid Harris Cooper says:

I didn't notice this on Jake's photo that I saw first.

What's a Demacrat?!?!
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

SReed99342 says:

As I said on Jake's photo, it's nice art, but it 's a fatally flawed message. Basically a huge cop out.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

What a great artist to capture this portrait the way it shows Nader. Thank you for sharing this image. I am a huge Obama fan, not because he was my first choice, but because he can win and has some good ideas. Am counting on his positive trait of being able to collect a wide variety of advisers from many sources. I too wish that third parties would have a way to be more viable. The Electoral College eliminates any real challenges from a Third Party.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Adam Lawrence says:

i think that a "legitimate" third party has to gain traction first at a local level, like the green party has tried to do at times, rather than the ego stunts that nader has been engaged with at the national level the last several elections....
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Runaway Wind says:

I think Obama is going to mean change in the fact that he is going to be elected in the first place!! But I also believe he will be enough of a change that things may actually "feel" different in this country... Nader change, I think, would be too drastic. (and he creeps me out a little.) I think Obama's a man who listens. Who watches. Who is in touch. Who thinks. Who is "reasonable" and positive... Who CARES! I think he wants to be President for the right reasons, and I agree with Cobalt - he will surround himself with people and advisors (esp. BIDEN!) to assist and direct him along the way. And I think his Presidency will slowly eat away at Dick Cheney until his heartless heart finally gives out. (Bush will just smirk his way back to Texas and remain the butt of jokes, and Laura will leave him after telling him she voted for Obama.)

I am excited. Very excited to see what is ahead.

and yes... when you write "demacrats" while you're trying to make a political statement, you're really hurting your message.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

otherthings says:

We definitely need a strong third party in this country, and I believe the Green Party could be it. But Ralph Nader running for president is the worst possible way to accomplish the Green Party's goals. Greens should be running for every small, local office all over the country, showing people from the ground up how their policies differ from the two other parties. Only then will they have the base of support they need to have a real shot at the presidency. Until then, any third party candidate running for president will be a spoiler.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

BOTROS!BOTROS! says:

This is true. Anyone that thinks we'll see any major changes after the election can only compare their delusions of grandeur to those of Nader's.

I also think that the word democrat was spelled wrong intentionally.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

augfw says:

In 2000 Nader talked about creating a viable 3rd Party, then abandoned the Greens ,disappeared for 4 years and like a vampire rose again from the dead to run again and now in 2008 yet again. Someone please get a stake !He's the new version of the EverReady Rabbitt. He keeps going and going but in this case without substance.
Adam and Otherthings among others hit it on the head, a grassroots organization is needed to develop a base from which a national party can grow from the bottom up and not from the top down.
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C215 says:

pepsi ? coca ? :)
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

[/\Z|-|.4 says:

this is on point.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Blue Poppy says:

Ralph Nader is right. We need a leader for the progressive wing of the Democratic party, not the invertebrate Pelosi-Reid-Hoyer trio. How about Bernie Sanders.

We've been betrayed by rats
By Clinton DemocRATS!
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

Laser Burners says:

i really think the republican party should run a pro-ufo candidate again. like barry goldwater.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

guero: says:

the only way that a third party can legitimately function in this country is if a major party was to split, as happened with the bull-moose. due to the way the government is set up a third party is not going to happen. having said that i would consider myself green before democrat, but ralph nader is just silly. i will admit that i voted for him in 2000, but I did so because I thought he was trying to promote a green party from the grass roots level. dude is a hoser like everyone else. he did do some good shit in his time. but that was long ago.
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

guero: says:

republicans would never vote for a graf writer like UFO
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

michaeljamespinto says:

Third parties work great in Europe where you have a parliamentarian system where the party that owns the house has an executive leader for the nation. If this were the case the Democrats would have taken the executive branch in 2006 and Nancy Pelosi would be President — or Prime Minister of the united States.

If third parties are serious (and most are frankly too fringe) they should aim for local elections first and then slowly build themselves up. In New York State there was a Liberal and Conservative party which did do this to a certain degree, but they weren't national parties so they couldn't do what a Green party would do in a European country.

My own thinking more and more is that if you're unhappy with a political party the only one you can point a finger at is yourself. It's the unpaid roots (and now netroots) that are making the difference and what put Obama in place. Obama wouldn't be there if it weren't for those folks who worked on the Dean and Clark campaigns in 2004.

What Nader should have done was to run as Democrat in 2004. Maybe he would have failed like Dennis Kuchich - but it would have helped he party and the nation over the long run. And example of someone who did his before was Jesse Jackson in the 80s who also changed the party for the better. By the way this isn't limited to Democrats, you could say the same thing about Ron Paul on the other side.

But frankly I don't want the United States to go to war with Iran because the President feels macho and I also don't want Roe overturned. And that's why I can't respect Nader for his current Presidential run - but if he did run for the Senate in Conn. I'd support him in a minute.
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