No Mans Land, Flanders Field, France, 1919
1919.
1 photographic print : gelatin silver ; 9.5 x 43 in.
Notes:
Title transcribed from item.
On front: "Photo by W. L. King, Millersberg, Ohio; by courtesy of
Military Intelligence Div., General Staff, U.S. Army."
No. 58.
Copyright deposit, W. L. King, October 19, 1921 (DLC/PP-1921:46432).
Subjects:
World War, 1914-1918--Battlefields.
France--Flanders.
Format: Landscape photographs.
Panoramic photographs.
Gelatin silver prints.
Rights Info: No known restrictions on publication. No renewal found in Copyright Office.
Repository: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, Washington, D.C. 20540 USA, hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print
Part Of: Panoramic photographs (Library of Congress) (DLC) 93845487
More information about the Panoramic Photographs Collection is available at hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.pan
Persistent URL: hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pan.6a22784
hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/cph.3c24516
Call Number: PAN FOR GEOG - France no. 10
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passengercis 56 months ago | reply
Flanders is in Belgium not France. Just as Fries, they are Belgian, not French!!!
FlungingPictures 56 months ago | reply
passengercis,
That information came from the fotog, not me. It's written on the foto. Perhaps you should take that up with the fotog. You are asserting tht the fotog didn't know where he was.
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This is what Wikipedia say:
"Flanders (Dutch: Vlaanderen, French: Flandre, German: Flandern) is a geographical region located in parts of present day Belgium, France, and the Netherlands. Over the course of history, the geographical territory that was called "Flanders" has varied."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanders - 125k - Cached - Similar pages"
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Thanks,
PK
corrieb 56 months ago | reply
Thank you for sharing this wonderfully powerful image. I borrowed it for a blog post over at CherryFingers Dynasty. Thank you...
nickelvd 56 months ago | reply
Unbelievable.
The Library of Congress 55 months ago | reply
Thanks to all for the comments and observations! The title of the image is taken directly from the original photograph, as is our cataloging practice. It seems there is some debate over the location of this field in Flanders, since there is a portion of Belgium called Flanders as well as 'French Flanders', in the north of France. Without more definitive landmarks in the photograph, it is difficult to say, so we will likely defer to the original title for now. Thanks again for the lively discussion!
FlungingPictures 55 months ago | reply
The original fotog was there, afterall, and should know where he was.
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Definitive landmark none as you can see... all churned up by the incessant vollies of shells from both sides.
doggettmeister 55 months ago | reply
Circumstantial evidence from the 1920 U.S. census:
Millersburg village, Hardy township, Holmes County, Ohio
King William, roomer, male, white, 41, married, born in North Carolina, occupation: photographer, employed: commercial
HarveNYC 54 months ago | reply
Well, The Cemetary is in Belgium (or it was last time I was there) and that's the location I think of when I think of it,
dlundber64 54 months ago | reply
Judging from condition of the ground and the foliage, the photo was probably taken in the late spring of 1919. The landscape is rolling and hilly, unlike the terrain in northern France or Belgium -- "flanders" -- and more like the areas where US troops fought in the last days of the war in the Meuse Argonne
FlungingPictures 54 months ago | reply
OK people, click on the "ALL SIZES" tab then you can clearly see in the middle of the foto the fotog wrote "No Mans Land, Flanders Field, France, 1919". If you want to dispute that assertion, then you're assuming that the fotog didn't know where he was standing in order to take the foto.That, my friends, to me, is disrespectful of the fotog.
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Please cease and desist from debating the location of where this foto shows and was taken. He knew better than you. You weren't there. He was, and more than likely died there.
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doggettmeister 54 months ago | reply
Umm. The First World War ended on November 11th, 1918 which is the date of the armistice. Given that the photo is Spring of 1919, I find it hardly believable that W.L. King died there especially since he copyrighted the photo in 1921 from Ohio.
jakdoom AKA sPam 53 months ago | reply
wow that truely is hell
smokeonit 49 months ago | reply
i noticed the problem with wrong location info in many databases of U.S. photographers in europe, also with photos from/after WWII, the LIFE magazine DB on google has many photos of germany after the war, and the ones i looked @ had many wrong locations attached to them!
ssgmoore1369 48 months ago | reply
I just found this image while checking out copyright facts and figures. What possible difference does the location make to all those who died there, on both sides, and in all of the trenches and bomb craters. Once you are dead, topography makes little difference to you. And that is the one true fact about all of this. Ask Dalton Trumbo.
pix-l 44 months ago | reply
It would be nice to get the panoramas geo-tagged, as well, so a person could visit the spot the camera stood - either in person, or by online proxy (satellite view). I've seen a traveling exhibit of USA Civil War photos "then and now" that is very eye-opening, for example.
jmt-29 44 months ago | reply
Here you can find a map of the battlefield in 1917:
www.atlas-historique.net/1914-1945/cartes_popups/FrontOue...
For the most, it's in France. But, in the north, in the Flandre, Ypres is in Belgium.... just at the frontier between France and Belgium.
conory 39 months ago | reply
Very moving.
I can't imagine the horrors of war which happened it this field.
mchervinko 15 months ago | reply
I just finished the Movie "War Horse" last night, and I think this battle field was depicted in it. The soldiers kept calling it no man's land. What a coincidence!
corrieb 15 months ago | reply
i was taught that no man's land was the land between the two front line trenches that was being fought over. it was literally land belonging to no man - at least until either side managed to push back their opponent and capture it.
ComputerHotline 8 months ago | reply
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