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Predjamski

Old part (Gothic age)
Newest wing (Romanticism)
Oldest part (well, duh :) )
Erazem's Cave
Tournament grounds
Entrance to the stables and the huge cave system behind them
Outhouse - and Erazem's last stand
(see description under the photo)
Lookout
connected with the castle with a steep tunnel with stairs carved in stone
Extended in Rennaisance
Predjamski by JumpinJack.
Every castle in the world is unique in some way. No two are the same.

But this one - even though it's rather small and humble compared to some - is unique in more than one way. Probably the only one in the world, really integrated in a cave system - actually the second largest cave system in Slovenia.

It's located 9km from Postojna (where another cave is located - world-famous Postojnska jama - one of the largest in the world).

Its name Predjamski grad literally means Castle in Front of the Cave. And the village in front of it is also named Predjama.

This castle wasn't built in one go. First written records exist from 13th century, though the first part (left wing) was probably built in the first half of 12th century. Middle part was added in renaissance, and the right wing was build around 1570. Some things were added and changed later, but since 1990 renovation work is in progress, restoring it to the original 16th century look.

A medieval knight's tournament is held each summer in front of the castle and it's really worth a visit (though it's quite crowded then - as far as I heard).

Castle changed quite a few owners, but probably the best known was notorious rogue knight Erasmus Lueger, aka Erazem Predjamski. In 15th century, when he lived, only the first part of the castle existed. And it more resembled a robber's den than a castle. Wasn't very large or comfortable - but virtually impregnable.

Erazem was once a guest of Austrian emperor Friederich III. When one of emperor's friends (or relatives, as some sources state) insulted one of Erazem's good friends, Erazem drew the sword and killed him. For this, he was sentenced to death, but managed to escape and made it back to his stronghold.

Then he started attacking caravans, robbing whomever and whenever he seemed fit and generally acting as a major pain in emperor's behind. Therefore Triest's governor Ravbar was ordered to find and kill him.

Legend says that none of Ravbar's men knew where Erazem's stronghold was. So Erazem himself, cheeky as he was, put on a diguise and offered to lead them to it. Be as it may, as they found out the location, they laid the siege to the castle for months. When they froze their bums off in the middle of winter, Erazem mocked them and allegedly even catapulted a roasted ox from the castle and wished them good appetite. (Could be that the Monty Python crew borrowed this legend for their French Taunting sketch - or perhaps it's just a funny coincidence.)

When the next spring arrived, Erazem started to send them freshly picked cherries. Ravbar was thoroughly puzzled by this. There were rumours among his men, that there was a sort of paradise land in the caves behind the castle, that yields all sorts of crop throughout the year...

Little did they know, that there's a passage through the cave, which exits on the other side of the hill. Probably this passage and the elaborate cave system were the main reason why the castle was built there in the first place.

Though Ravbar received these fruity gifts from Erazem, the siege itself proved fruitless - until the summer of 1484, when Ravbar managed to bribe one of Erazem's servants. This servant told him, that though castle's walls can easily withstand cannon fire, the walls of the outhouse (see notes on the photo) are quite another matter. A well aimed cannonball could penetrate its wall and kill whomever is using it at the moment.

So, when Erazem was relieving himself, the servant gave Ravbar's men a signal and they fired at the outhouse. The cannonball passed right through and missed Erazem. But when it hit the back wall, an avalanche of rocks buried Erazem beneath it, ending his rebellion.

Legend says that Erazem is buried under a huge (and really weird looking) lime tree, beside the village church.

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Best viewed large.
Here is the night view.
And here all my pix of this place.

Oh, and BTW: On May 7th, 2009 Oddee placed this castle third among
"10 Most Fascinating Castles and Palaces" in the world.
They even borrowed the first part of my text above in their description.
LOL I'm flattered! :-)
(And very grateful they didn't "borrow" my photo as well.) 
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pericoterrades  Pro User  says:

¿Donde? es un lugar merecedor de esta preciosa foto
Posted 38 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Gracias.

This is located near Postojna, Slovenia.
I have added some description if you're interested.
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Son of Groucho  Pro User  says:

Fascinating stuff. Thanks for the extensive notes. Oh yea, the picture's great!
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks for visiting and reading my lengthy babble SoG :-)
Posted 38 months ago. ( permalink )

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lawatha  Pro User  says:

I got a chuckle out of picturing the roasted ox being catapulted through the air.

Interesting bit of history there!
Posted 38 months ago. ( permalink )

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Chrazerer says:

When did this location become a Fortification. There are less devolped locations in the Alps with 50,000 years of history. Truly old. A good photo and what a fabluous subject. I have a question about the castle. The round cave well above and to the left of the castle, it looks like a early gun emplacement
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

LaWatha: Yeah, and no matter how delicious it might have been, I wouldn't want to find myself in its trajectory. :-)

BTW: There's more history attached to it of course (the castle, not the ox ;) ), but I just can't squeeze it all here...

Chrazerer: As I wrote above, first fortification was probably built in 12th century. Might be that it was used even before that as a natural fortress.

I don't know about the round hole. Maybe it's connected with Erazem's cave, but the "secret passage" behind the cave was closed for visitors, so I couldn't explore it (and also found no such detailed description on the web).

But there is a sort of natural balcony (see note, marked Lookout) beneath the round hole. There's a steep staircase, through another passage, which connects it with the castle.

Few bowmen placed there, could control the whole valley.

Plus there was a cannon placed at the middle section of the castle. I'll post some pics, showing the view from battlements.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Related (in the Power of Positive Relationships group)
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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~Cecilia~*  Pro User  says:

amazing place! (seen on PoPR group)
and thanks for the info... can it be visited?, i mean the inside
By the way, i just realized that you speak spanish.... ¿es cierto?
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

¡Gracias Cecilia!
Pero ciertamente no - yo no hablo Español. :-)

I understand just a few Spanish words and have great problems when I have to make a whole sentence. I learned English and German, but not Spanish. (Sometimes I use Babelfish, but it almost always produces horrible results, that don't sound right even to me, so I avoid making whole sentences at all :) )

About the castle: Yes it can certainly be visited - the shots following this one are from inside it. And some more to come.
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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jacki-dee  Pro User  says:

Love the photo: information too. ((Seen in POP).
This would be fine addition to visit the world-the travel guide.
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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bmw328driver  Pro User  says:

Great photo and interesting history. The outhouse story gives all new meaning to the phrase "[stuff] happens". Keeping the language family-friendly... :-)

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Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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userid_unavailable says:

what an amazing looking castle!
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks people.

Driver: Yeah, it happens - esp. when one is just sitting on the "throne". :-)
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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Grzesiek: says:

this is a spectacular place. thank you for giving so much information on it. it's there on my wish list of places to see!
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thank you Grzesiek. Long time no see! :-)

If you decide to visit, make sure you get there early, and don't miss the Postojna Cave as well.

(Or, if too many people in Postojna put you off, there are lots of other caves in the vicinity - some accessible only with special equipment, some only by boat. Though you can visit most of these only in summer.)
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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Grzesiek: says:

Hi! Yes, I was checking in on flickr less often recently, but I'm enjoying all these photos back again!
Thank you for your hints on the visit!
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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DaveSinclair  Pro User  says:

what a truely amazing place!
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

It is. Perhaps you too should stop by here on one of your trips Dave :-)
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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Coolnamestaken says:

i like the fusion of the structure and the cave, do you have anymore interior shots to post?
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Well, this entire set is about this castle. Have you seen it?

I have some more shots on the disk, but probably people would get fed up with them if I upload them all...
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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aMyth! says:

wow! beautiful place... would have loved to live in one like that!!
Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Um, yeah. I like it too, but the living conditions inside vary from:

Life in the Castle excellent,

through, um,
Hallway interesting,

to somewhat ...
Hang in there buddy, we'll be right back... less than pleasant...

Posted 37 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lynn Morag  Pro User  says:

Fascinating - love your notes on this. This would be a perfect addition to WorldWalkers
Posted 36 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks Lynn. I've posted in the group
Posted 36 months ago. ( permalink )

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Indyblue  Pro User  says:

Beautiful place, the castle built right into the caves? I hope I can be there one day, seems a lovely place..

Thank you for posting on WorldWalkers
Posted 36 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Quite strange Isn't it? :-)
Do visit if you can. Like Lynn said above, It's really a fascinating place.
Posted 36 months ago. ( permalink )

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vasi v  Pro User  says:

stunning picture, amazing places!
I would like to visit this some day!
Posted 35 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks Vasi.
If you visit, don't miss the nearby caves as well!
Posted 35 months ago. ( permalink )

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Hans_Ztz  Pro User  says:

fantastic picture and great story - wow
Posted 35 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thank you Hans
Posted 35 months ago. ( permalink )

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Padawan_1970 says:

Great castle.
Posted 35 months ago. ( permalink )

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mandolin davis  Pro User  says:

amazing...u are one lucky duck to be so well traveled :)
Posted 34 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thank you all!

mandolin davis: I wish (I was well travelled)!

I just happen to live in a small country, which hides a few gems that the rest of the world doesn't know much about... :-)
Posted 34 months ago. ( permalink )

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mellowmark says:

Amazing place - I really want to go there one day...... excellent notes and info too! Cheers,
Posted 34 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks mellowmark :-)
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csteelatgburg  Pro User  says:

Thank you for sharing these incredible pictures.
Posted 34 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Glad you like 'em csteelatgburg :-)
Posted 34 months ago. ( permalink )

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

In the last few days, this photo (and some other in the set) suddenly got thousands of views and lots of favourites.

I appreciate the interest and would like to thank you all for the faves.

Still, I'm quite perplexed what caused such dramatic boost of interest. Would you people care to tell me, where did you find this shot?

Thank you!
Posted 34 months ago. ( permalink )

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mellowmark says:

I was just searching on the keyword Slovenia and then sorted by 'most interesting' to find the best pictures. I own a .co.uk domain name with slovenia in the title and I was thinking of adding some content to it to make a website giving info for people in the UK (or anywhere) who want to visit Slovenia. But first I need to visit there and find the good places to write about. :) Or even better if some Slovenians want to write good information about their country, articles about good places to visit (with photos) then I can pay them for these articles.. Let me know if you would be interested or anybody else.....

So thats how I found it - but as for the 7,400 views - maybe Flickr featured it on one of their popular pages or it was in a very poular group or somebody blogged about it? I don't know for sure -sorry!
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks for explanation mellowmark. I believe it was blogged.

About writing articles: sounds interesting. Can you tell me (in a flickrmail message) some details what kind of article would interest you? Thanks.
Posted 34 months ago. ( permalink )

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chughtai  Pro User  says:

cool castle!

via BoingBoing
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Philippe Sainte-Laudy  Pro User  says:

Really impressive! Faved!

Found at GreatPixGallery50+ Group!
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@rno says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Castles / Châteaux / Schlösser / Castillos / Castelli, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.

incroyable castle in the rock !
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marielaura  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Villages and small towns of the world, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks chughtai, Pilou@ttitude, @rno & marielaura!
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nick_ayres  Pro User  says:

Very interesting and unusual setting.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Agree. Thanks for the visit Nick
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roarpett says:

Well, I found this from your "shameless plug" about having 10.000 views on this photo - so you see, advertisment works! :-)

interesting photo, and interesting story too.

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Haha, thanks :-)
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yingyangyodel says:

Ok, I think that is now officially my dream home.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Heh, as I mentioned above, living in it might not be so pleasant as looking at it. ;-)
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filmwolf  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Looks Like A Scene From A Movie (But Isn't...), and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks Filmwolf
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LA Lassie  Pro User  says:

#1 - Most interesting information.......thanks
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selecshine  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Kras, and we'd love to have your photos added to the group.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks for the invite LA Lassie. But like I asked already I believe: how would a castle photo fit in the group, devoted to birds and nature?

Hvala za vabilo selecshine, ampak se mi zdi, da je ta slika že itak v preveč grupah naenkrat (do pred nekaj dnevi je bila še v večih, a sem jo vzel ven). Sploh pa sem včlanjen v mnogo preveč grup in ga skušam ta seznam skrajšati, ne še povečati...
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selecshine  Pro User  says:

Ni panike. Če si premisliš, si dobrodošel s katerokoli fotko na to temo.
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she's gone fishin' says:

Not only an interesting pic but a history lesson as well.

Thanks.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

selecshine: Kul. :-)

Big Fish3: And thank you for your kind words
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bugsinthefield says:

What a great photo. Thanks for the history background too. Made the pic that much more interesting. :)
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Euforbio  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Architettura carsica, Kraška Arhitektura, Karst Architecture,, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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pulsewareau says:

I would love to see this one day...
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thank you all for the visit and friendly comments
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DeadManTalking  Pro User  says:

How come I've never seen a picture of this place before? It's incredible. Tusen tak, ja.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Dunno, why you never seen it. Perhaps the place isn't advertised as much as it deserves.

But then again, it gets its fair share of visitors already. I'm not sure it can take much more, without them being forced to queue outside. :-)
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mararie  Pro User  says:

what a strange castle. i like it! the picture is also nicely balanced

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks mararie
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*HSF* Photography  Pro User  says:

very cool! looks like an awesome palce to be at.
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Chris (archi3d)  Pro User  says:


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NatashaP  Pro User  says:

Superb capture!


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bekahpaige  Pro User  says:

wow this is incredible! i've never seen this castle before, so thanks for sharing

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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thank you all
Appreciated!
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Bachspics  Pro User  says:

I'm the Admin of the Bachspics Gallery / By Invitation
This is an exceptional photo. I hope you will consider it an honor to place your photo in my “invitation only” gallery. Please add it to Bachspics Gallery/By Invitation Group Feel free to tag your photo BachspicsGallery
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks Bachspics & monmst
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Christiaan L  Pro User  says:

Wow, what an interesting story! :) Great castle and photo!

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Dr_Beaner  Pro User  says:

Very cool castle and cave.

We would love your cave image posted in Cavers, Caves & Caving
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thank you Christiaan L & Dr_Beaner
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Ushlambad says:

Beautiful picture. I've been there and knew where it was instantly, once I saw the thumbnail! Thanks for rekindling fond memories!
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Glad you like it. :-)
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AORHUN says:

very nice

sumela
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks.
I browsed those Sumela monastery photos - it looks indeed quite similar from outside, but very different up close...
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rainy6 says:

wheres this its niice
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Like the description says, it's near Postojna, Slovenia
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Don César  Pro User  says:

Amazing view of a place I didn't known, thanks for the explanation, that is a plus!
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thank you
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Sakanta Running Wolf says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called GLOBAL PEACE GLOBAL HEALING, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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Lisa-S  Pro User  says:

What an incredible place beautfiully photographed.

Found in a search. (?)
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livetowander  Pro User  says:

Fascinating. Thanks for the including all that info. First time I've ever been ineterested in seeing what Slovenia might have to offer.
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Rodrigo_Soldon  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Wonderful photos for the world - Please comment on two (2), and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

Thanks very much Sakanta, Lisa, livetowander & Soldon

livetowander: Believe me, Slovenia has to offer much more than this. It's quite an unique country. Check out these or this group if you're interested.
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Andreas Helke says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Stories, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.

An interesting castle.
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JumpinJack  Pro User  says:

That it is. Even moreso on the inside.
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Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Intelligent Travel, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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Símon  Pro User  says:

Wow! What a building!
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