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No way, no how, no bailout.

This eye means it more than the other one.
*sniff*

It's kind of like when The Cosby Show brought in the new kid.
If it's not a Sox cap, at least it's a baseball cap. Bonus points for buying it at the stadium.
kthx!
I want to photoshop Kilroy here.
Ikea futon we used to have
invisible sheep.
Do not bail this man out!
extra bonus points for paying it with your credit card
True Dat!
Paulson, don't make him angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry.
no doomsday scare tactics
*whispers sweet nothings*
*whispers sweet everythings*
puppy dog face....
nice wallpaper
classic
Seriously, you have GOT to hire an interior decorator. Or you can just have me do it.
needs more notes
Please do not look at through a florescent light.
good god, man. get some sleep.
Mandy chew toy...
Cool picture
I know times are bad, but surely you can afford an iron?
Tufty hair
invisible bat! mwa hahahaha!
What, no kittens?
wow
Yes.
I said YES!!
Some people also put greed and personal interest over common sense
and prudence .. let's smile as well though
Smart thinker: Vote jakerome
definitely not a kitten
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No way, no how, no bailout. by jakerome.
No way, no how, no bailout.

Please Digg.

I'm calling my congresswomen and telling them I do not support this bail out. I'm a registered Democrat, but I think this is the rare issue that truly crosses the party line. There are many reasons I oppose the bailout, and I'll hit them one-by-one.

1) It rewards the bad actors who got us into the mess in the first place.
First, the people who bought houses that they knew they could not afford. Second, the lenders who made these bad loans without caring about the likelihood that they could not be repaid. Third, the insurers who bribed the government to not call credit default swaps (CDS's or mortgage insurance) insurance, thus relieving them of the obligation to keep cash on hand in case they had to pay the off the insurance policy.

2) The government will undoubtedly overpay for this debt.
The problem is two-fold right now: these loans are worth somewhere between $0.30 and $0.80 on the dollar, and no one wants to buy them at any price. So now the government will come in and rescue these irresponsible lenders. Guarantee you that the feds pay 50% more than anyone else would be willing to pay for this debt.

3) It doesn't solve the root problem.
Are they going to require oversight of CDS's? Will we start regulation & oversight of the shadow banking system? If not, this problem will just repeat itself in 5 or 10 or 20 years.

4) We're rushing into a solution
Good solutions aren't developed over a weekend or two weeks. Whatever band-aid bail out they come up with will be loaded with unintended consequences and will lead to hundreds of billions in extra spending beyond what anyone anticipates. You can take that to the bank.

5) Scare tactics are being used by the administration to coerce congress into giving the president massive new powers
I'm sorry, but didn't we just leave that party?

6) Once the government owns the debt, borrowers will be much less likely to pay if off.
Think about it-- all these problem borrowers are from the people who overpaid for their houses and borrowed more than they could ever afford. And the government has been going on for over a year about how we can't kick people out of "their" homes and onto the street. Now, all of a sudden these people are going to be stiffing the government & we'll own the houses. Any bets on whether we ever evict ANYBODY? This is a giant signal to the borrowers that they can STOP paying their mortgages immediately, because the government is coming to rescue them. The solution will probably be to write off the debt 100% and give the houses to the current occupants.

Seen on the web:
www.fernyreyes.com/?p=18
ballotvox.prx.org/archives/645/trying-to-understand-the-b...
www.npr.org/blogs/money/2008/09/take_picture_post_online_...
www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/09/29/700-billion-c...
mortgage-buy-home.com/2008/09/29/700-billion-can-we-handl...
unpostoaparte.blogspot.com/2008/10/pagare-i-mutui-o-compr...
trouble.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/2008/09/i_often_h...
news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10091189-71.html
www.wisebread.com/when-will-the-bailouts-stop-a-summation...
www.thumbjockey.com/blog/2008/10/desperate-times.html
germaine.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/my-day-in-pictures/
globaldenny.livejournal.com/89663.html
rarestnews.com/bailout_banks
svmomblog.typepad.com/new_jersey_moms_blog/2008/12/rtp-th...
www.rickety.us/2009/02/paul-on-politics-market-versus-gov...
yinvsyang.com/what-do-you-think-of-the-bailout/1219/
www.northbynorthwestern.com/2009/02/20237/why-you-should-...
www.allthebs.com/2009/04/your-outraged-yet-teabagging-pic...
www.quietthethunder.com/2008/10/people-you-need-to-start-...
www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2009/09/09/world-order-g... 
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

No way, no how, no bailout.
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phoneyman [deleted] says:

OK

- save

Pierre
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Mr. Wizzard  Pro User  says:

-Voted "save2" (by the DEL*TE ME! Uncensored Group)
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sbaracchina  Pro User  says:

save the US economy
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'SeraphimC  Pro User  says:

What Washington needs is a big ol' punch in its proto-fascist corpocratic kisser.
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Dustlake  Pro User  says:

Nooooo.

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sweet pea. [deleted] says:

i agree, jake.

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sam j rollo  Pro User  says:

bail out what?
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*omnia*  Pro User  says:

you've really made this - the placard holding sad face - your genre. And I agree with your sentiment. But I think you could use more imagination in presentation. Anyway, good luck

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Canon Camera  Pro User  says:

some American thing?


-Voted "delete4" (by the Delete Me Uncensored Group)
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daveish182  Pro User  says:

property is theft

flag

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₱layful kitty says:

Reading hurts my eyes.



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gagilas  Pro User  says:

as kitty said
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Michael Shakes  Pro User  says:

Save!!! 4
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Michael Shakes  Pro User  says:

As you were.
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graffiti*is*your*friend says:

appears on the surface to be political, therefore i didn't read any of it, also would have been at least funny if the note was in comic sans and not the hand of a toddler

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SurfDaddy  Pro User  says:

True Dat!~
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SurfDaddy  Pro User  says:

save19
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TrEjAcK  Pro User  says:

Not the same with the new cap. How could you lose it!?

-Voted "delete9" (by the Delete Me Uncensored Group)
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bluest_girl  Pro User  says:

Good luck with that!

save5
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oddsock  Pro User  says:

I'm a sucker for a good protest

save6
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Dshalock® the Libertarian Emperor of America  Pro User  says:

Hell no, we won't bail!

save7
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

It be at 9-9 folks!
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calanan  Pro User  says:

Go Sox!

-Voted "save10" (by the Delete Me Uncensored Group)
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Patrizia Burra  Pro User  says:

save11
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Pacdog  Pro User  says:

save.. 12?
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gagilas  Pro User  says:

I can see that from now on we don't need to vote in order, we can write save 19 after 4, or 10 after 7, or like I recently discovered: delete 10 after del6, who cares.
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tiffanyjbt... Joint Balaclava Taskforce  Pro User  says:

I love you Jaker!
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Phantom_snapper  Pro User  says:

you do good Basett Hound impressions
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JordyR  Pro User  says:

Save 15

Great post Jake!!
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no answers 2  Pro User  says:

Did you see Jon Stewart's interview with President Clinton last night? They were discussing this issue, and Clinton had something sensible to say about it.
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Chiapetta [deleted] says:

Crap! I thought the Daily Show was a re-run last night!
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

No one Dugg it yet. We need a concerted action to make that happen.
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oddsock  Pro User  says:

No way, no how, no bailout.
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aaataxconsultants says:

I have been watching C-Span for two days!
Folks, this is really very serious.
Tomorrow will never be the same.
Obama & McCain are postponing the debate to head back to DC to handle this crisis. The Prez at 9PM ET will address the nation.
Cash is almost frozen worldwide. The vendors are reporting that many companies around the world are not ordering American products. The world is afraid to lend us money...and please recall that our entire economy relies on borrowing cash. We in America don't have enough cash!
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graffiti*is*your*friend says:

Ok you made me do it, it's not an election for leader/party we need, it's an election for a system we need! Democracy does not work because 90% of the population are stupid and can't work the system out! Forget the leader, it's time to consider other options for the overall structure. Those cheesy women who spout on the news about loving some person's speech or other.... idiots.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Here come the fear mongers! I knew you guys would show up.

Lies, lies, lies. Paulson admitted yesterday that the point of the $700 billion gift to Wall St. is to decrease the likelihood of recession. I'm sorry, but that's just stupid.
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aaataxconsultants says:

The fear mongers are saying that we must restore their confidence to lend us money.
I SAY, "Yell at them saying we will no longer pay our credit cards, forgo the mortgage payment and claim 12 exemptions on our W-4 at work {that will reduce federal withholding to almost zero}!"
BANKRUPT THE BANKS! We will then be debt free, and all of you get to keep all of your pay! [except social security]. Refuse to pay your taxes!" What would happen if I said that, you said that & all of us said that?
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Nice try AAA, but "The vendors are reporting that many companies around the world are not ordering American products." is fear mongering. Any facts to back that up, or would you like to retract your bullshit statement.
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itspiv says:

saveamundo - sheer brilliance!!!!!!
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aaataxconsultants says:

Buy the mortgages and rent the houses to the former owners if they never lied on the application. If they did then allow upstat poor people to rent them. Revise Federal Reserve Notes' statement to read "THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL PRIVATE DEBT". Issue the New Treasury Note as the the United States' official currency. Guarantee Social Security payments. Replace employee pension funds with an equal value of NTNs. Enact a new minimum wage encouraging all persons to work instead of collecting transfer payments. Finance alternative energy applications immediately. Close the ports which import foreign oil. Drop out of the WTO and similar non-democratic organizations. Place tariffs on foreign products. Employ every able-bodied person. Provide universal health care to every citizen or legal resident with a small deductible. Offer high wages in the agricultural sector providing incentives to Americans and LPRs to work in the fields and orchards. Implement immediate alternatives to energy. {Case in point: use an extensive Spanish model.} Provide cash credits to individuals car pooling. Temporarily permit free public transportation, thus, filling all of our trains, buses, and trolleys. Pay workers to bike to work. Build more trains and passenger cars. Discourage air travel until the airlines replace their antiquated equipment.
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aaataxconsultants says:

Response to Jakeome:
It's actually happening. Research what is happening to the dollar. Research what is happening to confidence in America as seen by foreigners. Even Treasuries are shaky.Check it out. Fear mongering or relaying a message? It's obvious you have a stake in the corrupt system. It's only a matter of time that the dollar will fall...so, prepare for its drop!
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

AAA: It's amazing, this World Wide Web. You can post links, from anywhere to anywhere!

But whatever. Every post seems uniquely bizarre, the newer ones typically unrelated to the earlier rants. Have fun with that!
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SurfDaddy  Pro User  says:

aaa is a govt robot.
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Lawrie M  Pro User  says:

Congratulations, Jake!

Feel free to move this over to The FOLIO.

Be sure to add it to the DM Gallery as well and choose one photo to remove.
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elswatchoboracho  Pro User  says:

www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/22/dirty-secre t-of-the-bai...

A critical - and radical - component of the bailout package proposed by the Bush administration has thus far failed to garner the serious attention of anyone in the press. Section 8 (which ironically reminds one of the popular name of the portion of the 1937 Housing Act that paved the way for subsidized affordable housing ) of this legislation is just a single sentence of thirty-two words, but it represents a significant consolidation of power and an abdication of oversight authority that's so flat-out astounding that it ought to set one's hair on fire. It reads, in its entirety:

Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.
In short, the so-called "mother of all bailouts," which will transfer $700 billion taxpayer dollars to purchase the distressed assets of several failed financial institutions, will be conducted in a manner unchallengeable by courts and ungovernable by the People's duly sworn representatives. All decision-making power will be consolidated into the Executive Branch - who, we remind you, will have the incentive to act upon this privilege as quickly as possible, before they leave office. The measure will run up the budget deficit by a significant amount, with no guarantee of recouping the outlay, and no fundamental means of holding those who fail to do so accountable.
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purplewon2000  Pro User  says:

I have the feeling I'd do better with $700 billion then Wall Street. So would groups like Habitat for Humanity. A little "sweat Equity" never killed anyone, except for those that never did manual labour. I washed dishes for 18 years, and I'm still alive.
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tomswift46  Pro User  says:

I agree!
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ⓅⒶⓎⓅⒶⓊⓁ  Pro User  says:

Bailout?
Man the lifeboats!!

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rafallano  Pro User  says:

Congrats on the explore, really great job
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BillyWarhol  Pro User  says:

yeah when is the last time the Banks Bailed any of us out??

Fuckerz*


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BillyWarhol  Pro User  says:

Alexander Braun said "We Are Rich!" to you
and showered you with $1,000,000 dollars!
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Randy Shelton  Pro User  says:

Here's my take:

Congressional banking committee is just as guilty a the CEO's. Take there family to an average middle class income, take the remainder of the money and pump it into the failed bank. Take the Congressional committee members and the CEO's and through their fat over size @$$ in hard federal prison, not sissy fed prison.
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Joshua Dorkin aka BiggerPockets.com says:

We loved your pic and used it in our article about the bailout with attribution and a linkback:
www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2008/09/29/7 00-billion-c...
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FREDDYN [deleted] says:

There are some things about the Bail Out that are / could be positive.

1) No more "golden parachutes" for losers on wall street. I don't know about your job, but in mine there is no bonus given if I completely screw up and am forced to leave the company. Why should Wall street by any different? Those blokes should be happy to keep their jobs.

2) The Feds could regulate the financial system. I don't know exactly what that entails, but I am sure there will be more protections for us common folks.

3) There is a provision that will allow for a home owner about to go into foreclosure to renegotiate there mortgage to something more reasonable (although the details are sketchy). Image you fell for one of those mortgage schemes, where you paid 5% for the first couple of years, then get bumped up to 12% or higher. Wouldn't it be nice if you could go to court to renegotiate back down to 5% or 6%?

I don't know what the right answer is. But with a stock market plumeting hundreds a day (500 + today alone), something MUST be done. Doint nothing is only making things worse.

For those still reading, invest in yourself, your family, and the kingdom of God, the only investments that you can truely profit from.
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FREDDYN [deleted] says:

Here's a Financial Bail Out Plan that can Work!

From the "Non-financial" world:

I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.

Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in
a We Deserve It Dividend.

To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000
bonafide U.S. Citizens 18+.

Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman
and child. So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up.

So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals
$425,000.00.

My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a
We Deserve It Dividend.

Of course, it would NOT be tax free.

So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.

Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.

That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.

But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.

What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage -- housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college - it'll be there
Save in a bank -- create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car - create jobs
Invest in the market - capital drives growth
Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else

Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed
Forces.

If we're going to redistribute wealth let's really do it...instead of
trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( "vote buy" ) economic incentive that is being proposed
by one of our candidates for President.

If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult
U. S. Citizen 18+!

As for AIG - liquidate it.

Sell off its parts.

Let American General go back to being American General.

Sell off the real estate.

Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.


Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.

Sure it's a crazy idea that can "never work."

But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!

How do you spell Economic Boom?

I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in
Washington DC .

And remember, this plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam as tax.

Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
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elswatchoboracho  Pro User  says:

www.michaelmoore.com/words/message/index.php? id=235

i cant find the other link, but in a nutshell if you gave every single citizen $400K to spend, then a can of soda would be $20...get it...

still no bailout,
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

You need to do your own math. Those numbers are off by a factor of 1000. It would be $425 each.

Maybe the confusion is people think it's the British billion? Still that doesn't excuse the repeating of this failure in mathematics for my American brethren.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

What I wrote above still stands, but I'd like to clarify my remarks. I am not in favor of no action-- I am just opposed to bad action. This is a comment to a blog elsewhere.

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Hmmm... have I expressed my opinion on this yet? I think that while there may be a need for some sort of injection of capital into the banking system, that this bill is the wrong. Not everyone opposed to the Bailout Bill wants the government to just watch the carnage. There were several huge problems with the original bill:

1) The government was going to substantially overpay for assets and get nothing additional in return;
2) The amount of money was huge;
3) All the power was concentrated in the Treasury Secretary with no oversight.


The solutions?

1a) Allow companies to abandon mark-to-market and set their own valuation for assets, thus trying to deflect the uproar of the government overpaying;
1b) The Treasury Secretary has the option of receiving stock warrants in exchange for overpaying for some of this toxic debt, at his discretion;
2) The bill was broken up into 3 parts-- the $250 billion, another $100 billion with the snap of the fingers & another $350 billion unless congress blocked it with a veto-proof majority;
3) All the power was concentrated in the Treasury Secretary with limited oversight.

The phrase "lipstick on a pig" seems about right. I think something like the Soros plan (recapitalizing the companies by buying stock, like Buffett did with Goldman Sachs) is a much, much, much better idea. The taxpayer takes on risk, but the expected loss is $0. We could lose or gain hundreds of billions, and I don't mind taking on the risk. I can't stand the outright giveaway. The only way a Soros-type bill passes is if this one is killed first. Loading it up with marginally related tax cuts just makes the bill worse, since it puts us even deeper into debt.

I think Congress is letting themselves get bullied, and at this point just want to pass ANY bill and get rid of the hot potato, and never touch it again. This bill represents a dereliction of their duty to be in charge of government spending.

No way, no how, no bailout.
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

Did this campaign work? ;)
I found this in a search for "1", by the way. It was second on the list. :/
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rickthatcanadianguy says:

I agree with you on all counts. This is just digging a deeper grave.
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Nicolas Valentin  Pro User  says:

too late !they'r offThe Bank Manager Sweet escape..$$$
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l.traube says:

Ciao, sono amministratore di un gruppo chiamato Write me!. Ci farebbe piacere aggiungere l’elemento al gruppo.
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democrats or not, is a political act, flickr is more open and free space for us, no religion , no left or right, boundaries set by people love only oneself ,set his own room, I SALUTE YOU BY EXPRESSING SELF IN THIS WAY OF COMMUNICATION, but in my opinion AND PERSONAL SUGGESTION, we need to be honest to ourself and feel free to express our thoughts no matter what, AND FEEL FREE TO ACCEPT COMMENTARIES, again keep FLICKER MORE ALIVE , im new in this way , but I SALUTE FLICKER TOO.
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

Keep the Woodstock spirit alive! ;)
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Now blogged on at least 9 sites, not including my own.
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bmorrisdavies  Pro User  says:

How did you get the ideas? I seriously need to widen my range of photographical genres.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

@bmorrisdavies none of these series start off that way... usually just a lark, and a joke that doesn't end. I rarely look for new genres, they seem to find me.
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bdcalaway says:

delete
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TrEjAcK  Pro User  says:

Heh, I love it when that happens months later |=-)
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Sierra Echo Alpha Av8r ---=.O.=--- ...Graham  Pro User  says:

I am completely cracking up on the comments.

As for the bailouts, the stockholders are the ones who really know all about it - that comes firsthand.

You've heard the expression losing your shirt? I'm typing this wearing a fig leaf - just kidding but you get the idea.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Now spotted on 11 different blogs, not including my own.

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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

Those blogs have really made the politicians pause and rethink their policies. ;)
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Double_Nickel  Pro User  says:

The government who forced banks to make bad loans. The radicals who intimidated bankers and their families. The Community Reinvestment Act which the Clinton administration used to batter banks into making bad loans. Congress who ignored the problem. Democrats who headed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It is a problem created by government and the only way out is for government to let the free market work.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Yes. If not for George Bush rejecting tighter standards for mortgages, imagine how much worse it would have been!

Now, if we all work together, we can pull out of this.

Yes we can!
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Double_Nickel  Pro User  says:

Not with the Democratic Congress set to take over the auto industry. Can you believe the idiots that caused this mess think they can run it any better. Barack Hussein Obama is set to create a depression with his record proposed deficit spending. The only solution is for government to cut spending and taxes and let the free market resolve this.
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

I love it when people who have no idea how the economic system works start saying "Leave it all to the free market". How many Nobel Prizes for economics have you got, jim031956? Last time I checked, there wasn't a single Nobel prizewinner who didn't agree that a bail-out of some sort was necessary.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Barack Obama will lead us out of the Great Recession created by George W. Bush and his Republican cronies.

A new president in 42 days. Change you can believe in.
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Double_Nickel  Pro User  says:

Arty Smokes
How has the bailout made anything better? How does borrowing money make things better? I am afraid it is you who has no idea how the economic system works. I have run a small business for years and taken economics courses. There are many economists who would disagree with the bailouts
justgetthere.us/blog/archives/Prestigious-Gro up-of-192-Ec...

jakerone
Tthe recession was not created by President Bush. He had plenty of help from the Democrats and it started many years ago with President Clinton and the Community Reinvestment Act which was passed in the Carter administration but was relatively harmless until President Clinton put it on steroids forcing banks to make bad loans. Barack Hussein Obama's deficit spending will only make things worse siphoning off money from the private sector.
townhall.com/Columnists/ThomasSowell/2008/09/ 30/bailout_p...
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

365-173
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

jim031956 "How has the bailout made anything better?"
I'm of the opinion that it will prevent things getting much worse than they would if nothing was done. Mistakes have been made by politicians of all colours, but leaving it all to the free market would mean the whole system would collapse, causing small businesses like your own to go under.
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Michael.Redfall  Pro User  says:

jim031956 i agree wholeheartedly.

this isn't just a republican or Democratic problem its a whole governmental problem. no one walks away blameless. bush has been in power for almost 8 years now. and the Democrats have had majority over the house for over two years now. [so much for their promise to be the most balanced spending house in history ] whats also interesting is how bush and the house had a lot in conman. bush and the house were both under 25% approval, 18% house approval and 23% bush approval .....like i said...no one walks away blameless.

its funny how only thing that kept the bailout from passing for the three major car companies was the union's unwillingness to cut union workers pay to keep the company's from crumbling...a large part of the problem has been the unions...and this just shows where their priorities truly lie. they don't care about sustaining a company for the future benefit of the workers. they care more about keeping the strangle hold on companies..all while the corporations bleed out do to their own neglect.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

My favorite bit about the various bailouts has been its stunning exposure of Republican hypocrisy. Republicans were adamantly opposed to any limits on pay and bonuses given to incompetent bank employees and executives that "earn" millions of dollars a year, yet they resoundingly support limiting the pay of Joe Autoworker, even going beyond what the car companies themselves had proposed.

The Republican party has declared class warfare. They support billion-dollar bank executives and oppose autoworkers making 1/100 of a typical CEO.
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

jakerome Totally agree with you on that. The bank bailout was difficult to stomach for everyone who struggles to pay their mortgage, but attempting to block salvation for the auto industry is indicative of the Republicans' true colours. They only look after their own.
Fortunately, the financial help for the motor trade will come along somehow, as that is truly the backbone of the American economy, not the hedge funds and bad loans that bankers have profited from for so long. It's all a big mess, but if a government can afford to bail out the banks, it can afford to bail out the auto industry. Letting it die is unthinkable. (Except for Republicans).
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SurfDaddy  Pro User  says:

Arty,
With death comes rebirth, Chapter 11 would let the auto makers streamline their industry a bailout would only keep a sick patient plugged in.
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

SurfDaddy Point taken. I wonder if the banking/credit/mortgage industry could be "streamlined".
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Slava V.  Pro User  says:

Thank you for releasing this shot under CC license. Just wanted to let you know I've selected to display this image at 'Bailout Banks' news page (it's my hobby site), full attribution and link to you is provided. Thank you once again.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

No problem! I am the face of the bailout opposition.
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

And I'm the arse. ;)
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Now blogged in over 14 places across the internet!

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Seen on rickety.us (?)
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Arty Smokes  Pro User  says:

And now there are serious questions being asked about the billion pounds in bonus payments to the "bailed out" RBS executives in the UK. All thanks to Jake. :D
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Just sent this to Barack Obama. I'm expecting a personal response.
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I think the $75 billion "homeowner" rescue plan is a colossal waste of money that represents a massive transfer of wealth from responsible renters & homeowners to irresponsible banks and borrowers whose speculation caused the financial crisis. This sums it up pretty good, www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/02/comments-o n-housing-pl... and this, www.flickr.com/photos/jakerome/2884641572/ .

Basically, it's $11,000 to subsidize bad decisions. The money would be better spent on improving financial literacy and better regulating the financial markets. And the alleged "benefit" of stabilizing house prices is both illusory and not a benefit. Renters like myself have been priced out of the housing market due to rampant speculation. And now our tax money is going to artificially prop-up housing prices for a couple years making it more difficult for people to buy their first home. And eventually housing prices will fall to normal levels. Prices are still at historical highs compared to incomes-- the problem isn't that housing prices are coming down too fast, it's that they went up too much.

I donated to your campaign and I support most of your policies, but the family of bailout proposals has been mess-upon-mess, seemingly intent on rewarding the bad actors that created the mess at the expense of those who were prudent in the face of excesses around them.

No way, no how, no bailout.
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oddsock  Pro User  says:

No answer yet ?
this one made me think of you : )
Speech Bubbles Contest #014 - Going Down Again
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

No, Barack hasn't gotten back to me. Must have gotten lost in the mail.
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saxby chambliss.  Pro User  says:

FAIL
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Darren Alexander says:

There are those like George Mobiot who might figure that rather than bail out people in banks a different economic system is in order based on green energy as it would stopMan Made Global Warming from getting worse.

There are manuals for electric motors for cars ready so all that required is 500 dollars or less in cash to buy them.

Also lots of talk about recession but again we agree the system has to change anyway so a person can puzzle on what the problem is. In addition to the above no big box stores or exporting food abroad helps environment. I think scientists agree on the new system and
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iBrittnee  Pro User  says:

wait a minute this has nothing to do with kittens!
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shanty5 says:

How i sign out
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parkand8th says:

We've elected a looter. Say goodbye to our nation. It's amazin' to watch the obama voters in all their glee... They have no clue what awaits them...(all of us actually)
I would love to see the look on oprahs face when she gets this years tax bill.
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Nuragic Man  Pro User  says:

Very fine shot!
Hi, I'm an admin for a group called People, costumes & customs no limits., and we'd love to have this added to the group!
Thanks.
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