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dorisdaynyc says:

Somehow, SOME WAY, the powers that be in this country will keep that man from becoming president. Be it via assassination, diebold brand voting machine trickery or just plain old electoral college bullshit... PROVE ME WRONG, America.
I think I might actually vote in this one.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Oldmanchas says:

Doris. You posted "I think I might actually vote in this one" So in other words Doris you're saying that you have not voted in past elections? Maybe what you call "trickery" is just people like you not voting?

People who don't vote have no business bitching about election results.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

NashvilleFiles says:

Interesting. This mural looks like it came from a dictatorship where the leader's face is plastered everywhere. Just an observation.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Thus far, I think this election is waking a lot of people up. I'm glad that Doris might vote. If she didn't vote in the past, I won't hold it against her. We live in this moment, not the past. At this moment, the government is upside down and people are starting to notice. That's a good thing. I don't think she was bitching so much as voicing her fears. The election process is tainted. Recent history proves this to be true. Doris not voting is the least of the actual trickery in play. I vote and I've been voting. In 2000 my absentee vote was not counted in Florida. In 2004, I watched record turn out at voting polls... people standing in line waiting for change and still George Bush is in office. Voter supression, intimidation, and out right voting scams are and have been out of control. We all should be bitching. At least it means we're awake.
Dictators commission or demand that their image be displayed prominently at every turn because they are afraid "they're people" will forget them. This mural exists because a street artist felt inspired by the words of a man who happens to be running for President. We need more inspiration. We need more hope. We need voters. Lets not discourage change. In this election, I'm looking for transformation and for that we need everybody.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

dorisdaynyc says:

oooh... good dialog going on here... First off, I never voted before for several reasons... 1. Avoiding selective service... 2. Electoral college invalidates the popular vote... 3. C'mon, kids, the florida shit was FUCKED UP. if that didn't hamper your faith in democracy, then maybe a few noam chomsky books and the New Yorker will do the trick....

And as for the dictatorship thing, I think you're right aesthetically, but wrong about the intention... I'm GUESSING this is Tats Cru, and they would do a piece like this outta love. the parallels with che, abacha, kim jong il or hussein are there, but hip hop plays off of multiple cultural touchpoints like that... shit, i'm too out if it to explain.

I.S. You know what i'm saying...

and they are already playing games with the voters.... this shit is fucked and if obama doesn't make it (i think we all feel his momentum right now, he HAS the popular vote) then some shit is gonna go down in this nation, and i'm gonna be hiding in my basement with a twelve guage whilst the streets are torn to pieces.

Please god, give me/us a black prez in our lifetime.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

The Prizefighter says:

Superb mural. Yes we can!
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Oldmanchas says:

Dois. Senator Obama does not have the "popular vote" as you claim. McCain is leading in the polls right now.

www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN182 479122008031...
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Oldmanchas, beware. Selective reading can be hazardous to your intelligence. No one, in this thread, implied that Obama was leading the popular vote. Doris did discuss the validity of the electoral college and it's effect on the popular vote... But since you brought it up... the election hasn't actually started.. The polls are still projections of what will come once the primary process closes. Obama is not our candidate yet. I personally hope that he will be. At this point McCain is running around talking to himself. There is no discourse, no dialogue, and no comparisons. Don't be consoled that McCain is up in the poles. The Democrats haven't even begun to focus their attentions on his viability as a candidate. When they do, It will quickly be apparent that McCain has nothing more to offer this country than a further extension of of the misery that GWB has already accosted us with thus far. 81% of the country thinks we are on the wrong track. McCain thinks we are on the right track. That's a poll I believe in. Revel in McCain's fleeting success now, while you can.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Oldmanchas says:

Irony. You're the one doing the "selective reading". Doris clearly states that Obama "Has the the popular vote". He does not. If you would read my link you would see that.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Point taken...She did. Apologies. I read your article. I have more statistics for you: www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/preside nt/democrati...
Clearly Obama does have the popular vote at this point.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

dorisdaynyc says:

okay kids, what I mean is that we all feel his
MOMENTUM

dude has a large popular consensus, everywhere I go I see home made obama signs, and fer chrissakes give us this man as president!
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

dorisdaynyc says:

oh shit... just read those stats... dAMN!

he DOES have popular vote!!!
Yessssss....
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Oldmanchas says:

Irony. The Realclear info you provide only shows that Obama is ahead of Clinton among Democrats. It does not show that Obama is more popular than McCain right now.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

dorisdaynyc says:

Oh, come on, chas, like ANYONE in america is gonna vote republican again after the last 8 year debacle?

it's between hillary and obama and that's it. McCain is a fucking placeholder, nothing more. once the primaries are over, the election is too. Bush fucked the republicans for decades to come.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Oldmanchas says:

Doris. The polls say that it will be a very close election as always. So about half of all the voters in U.S. will vote Republican.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Hold on to your polls Chas. The election hasn't even begun. You obviously fall in to the part of the population who is elated by the direction the country is headed. There is nothing Doris or I can do to make you want more for yourself. For your sake, I hope you are wrong. For the record, I don't care what your precious polls have to say. The country is tired. I think that will show in the election results. The country has been subject to republican rule for almost a decade and we have nothing to show for it but despair. Maybe you don't feel it Chas and that's okay because 81% of the country does feel it and we plan to stand up for you even if you won't stand up for yourself. (I threw that poll in there just for you Chas)
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Oldmanchas says:

Irony. You have no idea what I think or what I want. And I don't need you or anyone else to stand up for me.

And whether you choose to believe the polls or not, this next election should be very close. So I suggest you and Doris both get out and register to vote. The first time for both of you I'm sure.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

I vote. I have voted. I will vote again. We can agree on the necessity of voting.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

dorisdaynyc says:

Oh, it'll be my first time, but only on account of the iraq war and my aversion to selective service.

and besides, how much faith can an yone have in the process after the last 8 years? this country is knee deep in BULLSHIT and after the Ohio/Florida mess can you blame people for doubting democracy?
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

dorisdaynyc says:

close election my ass.

When white males in louisiana are saying they gonna vote obama it gives me hope for the human race.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

-MissG- a.k.a. -Glau- says:

can I just say that this is an amaaazing wall ?!?

And that´s what I think that should be (and it was at first) the whole point of graffiting on the streets, public places...to express yourself... and create discussions and make people think about it like this one did...like you´re all doing now ! ;)
Keep on ...!

so thumbs up for the ones who did it !

and for *irony , for putting this up ! ;D

thx for adding! :)
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

5150: Have You Seen?: TMNK says:

very 5150
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

Shield says:

Wow. Where'd you see this? Pls post location.
Posted 20 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

I found this wall in Bushwick, walking distance from Kings County Tavern and Archive. I'm not sure what the street was. I will check it out and post it when I have more information.
Posted 20 months ago. ( permalink )

Perfecto Presents says:

68% of all statistics are wrong...
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Some information on the current polls:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/huffpollstr ology-candid...
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Polls and statistics for the 2008 election cycle:
www.realclearpolitics.com/
www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/53771.html
Posted 15 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Oh so close:
www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/senate-projec tions-111.html

Election anxiety is driving me insane! I so need this to find it's conclusion. Go Obama Go!!!
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

Hoping for transformation...willing to settle for change! Go Obama GO!
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/02/election-pr edictions-pu...
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

This article details what to look for when watching the election results written clearly from the perspective of an Obama supporter but I'm okay with that:
www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15243.html
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

YAY!!!!! OBAMA!!!!!!
scoreboard.dailykos.com/map/
Whew!! Now we can take a deep breath and step forward together.
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

dorisdaynyc says:

so sorry i didn't make your election party. i got dragged into some craziness in park slope. there were people of all ages, races and occupations just screaming and happy and cars honking and the bars were packed tight with people watching the final speech, and I was just like "fuck yea, history in the making."
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

ironyspeaks says:

It's all good! The place was packed. It was so insane to see soooo many people excited, and scared about the outcome of a presidential election. It felt good to be on the right side of history with so many others! It was awesome. i couldn't have imagined a better outcome. 2008. We won't forget it—that's for certain.
Posted 14 months ago. ( permalink )

5150: Have You Seen?: TMNK says:

This art has been OBAMA HUNTED , please post it on the
OBAMA ART HUNTER GROUP

Posted 13 months ago. ( permalink )

Vinylone - check the profile - stops tradeing says:

masterpiece!
Posted 3 weeks ago. ( permalink )

Vinylone - check the profile - stops tradeing says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Grafitti Outside Amsterdam 2009, and we'd love to have this added to the group!
Posted 3 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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