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In the Shadow of a Flower

In the Shadow of a Flower by Hamed Saber.
Just a try ;)

Added to Flickr Explore (Interestingness) of the day 5 June 2006

I couldn't see the LCD or finder koz the flower was about 10cm tall (1/3 foot), and I'd put my cam close to the ground. So just tried to adjust the lens inside the shadow of the flower first center of it, to lock the AF, and then by the rule of the thirds to catch a good cadre. All exposure adjustments are automatic. 

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gwilmore  Pro User  says:

A successful try, if you ask me! :-)
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nothing special  Pro User  says:

this is cool!
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strangemagee  Pro User  says:

perfect glow
1-2-3n
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majeczka_majeczka says:

Interesting macro!
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Olivka says:

Ah! How beautiful!
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stephen_pix says:

Very unique. Very cool!
From the Flower macroism group.
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29cm says:

So lovely!
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Renata Diem  Pro User  says:

Wonderful angle!

(123 Nature)
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AlexYoung  Pro User  says:

Great photo.
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Danton pix  Pro User  says:

It looks like the flower itself could be the sun! Terrific job! (1-2-3 Nature)
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The Naked Artisan  Pro User  says:

I love how it glows.

(1-2-3 Nature)
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ALLIZ in Wonderland [deleted] says:

Superb photography
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J Gilbert  Pro User  says:

That's a good idea. Well done.
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CurveTo says:

oh! this's so great!.. the flower seems like the sun!
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S n o R k e l says:

Hey Hamed!
It seems like we have so much in common...
DSC03248
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Harold Davis  Pro User  says:

Great backlighting!
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pigoritm says:

Beautiful composition! Great work...
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Nazanin Banani says:

Vaghean Mesle Khorshid Shode ... !! Wonderfull !!
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xenonb. (in Christmas stress)  Pro User  says:

Superb light and great angle, love it!
1-2-3 Nature
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girloblique says:

so very pretty.
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catmadogma [deleted] says:

I had one very similar today but without this fabulous lighting. Beautiful shot!! Macro 1-2-3
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Atry  Pro User  says:

WOW
Great idea and good job Hamed!
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Merly *Sunflower* On and Off  Pro User  says:

Great job Hamed! I like how it transmit the iight into the flower!
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

Thanks everybody
@gwilmore Of course I ask you ;)
@Olvika Welcome to my photostream :)
@Flirtsalut Welcome back, sorry if I injured your heart...
@Snorkel It seems I should traverse your photostream before making any shot decision, koz with a probability of more than 50%, I could find what in my mind in your stream ;)
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Aidin mahmoodi says:

vaghean fogholade ast
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boshra says:

Well done...it's so crispy
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giddy_lyn says:

Absolutely beautiful!! I love the angle you chose for this.
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Dricota © says:

Wow!!!!
Wonderful shot!
The colors are beauty!
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S n o R k e l says:

:)
...Add to the line of our common interests, my passion for the sea, and diving (although I had only the chance to snorkel from time to time)
Which way Up?
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Sharon Taylor Photography of Kettering  Pro User  says:

wow another fav.
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Tahereh! says:

very cool
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

@Aidin, giddy, Dricota, ddam, baamieh: Thank you all for your nice comments.

@Boshra تو به اين قرار فليكر تهران مي‌رسي؟
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Cajie  Pro User  says:

Superb work done here. And your explanation of how you took the shot only makes it that more interesting.
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James "Busdriver" Scott  Pro User  says:

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Technical 2/5

Impact 3/5

Achieved Aim 3/5

Opinion 2/5

TOTAL 10/20

(from the Critical Masses group)
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Technically, it's somewhat overexposed, and marginally out of focus. The leaves and stems in the foreground are distracting to me. If you want to capture these sorts of shots, it's usually better to wait for late afternoon when the sun is at a lower angle and not so harsh. Your photos will come out less glaring and garish if you wait for the warmer evening light. If you insist on taking the shot during the day as you have, I would suggest changing to TV and setting your shutter speed much faster so that the sun isn't so blinding.
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ugii says:

beautiful!!
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

@theXenon: Thank you for your totally revenge scores. BTW, your comments are constructive, even I'm not agree with you in most of them. But a question: What is "TV"?
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Serge Marx  Pro User  says:

tv = time value

we used to called shutter priorty until the people who know better than us changed it.

essentially, you select the shutter speed - the camera selects the aperture. Commonly used to capture fast moving objects.

I don't actually agree with the xenon here. i think the way you've composed the sun behind the flower is pretty cool - although the darker areas of the shot are distracting. Maybe some very softly diffused fill flash could have given us some highlights up front while retaining the glow around the flower. Maybe try the same thing again, but with a single flower, and no other distracting elements. this way you might demonstrate the concept you were going for better.
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

@21st fotojux! ;)
Thank you for your complete description.
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James "Busdriver" Scott  Pro User  says:

Just for the record Hamed, I don't revenge score. The criterion I base my scoring on can be found on the front page of the Critical Masses group which I help to administer just because I LIKE constructive criticism, and I LIKE tough scoring. I am not part of the group to have my ego stroked and my hand held. I am here to learn, participate and socialize with my photographic peers.

Here are the guidelines I use:

1 - bad
2 - amateur
3 - average
4 - almost there
5 - perfect

I consider your shot amatuer, and I don't think you achieved your aim, or at least what I understood your aim to be. Sorry that you don't like my score. If you want a better score, go back, follow my suggestions and/or 21st's suggestions and re-post the photo. I'm sure you'll get a better score the second time around if you follow the constructive criticism rather than accusing me of revenge scoring.
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

@theXenon:
Thank you for your explanation. However I thought your score (not your comments) is some kind of revenge. If you claim that it is not, okay, i'll accept!
FYI, I accept the focus problem, but I think there is no lighting or exposure mistake. The sun light and the colors are exactly what I wanted to be. About the bushes, I think it's about opinion and may change people to people. You know, in my opinion, I like them, I have another shot in my computer without them, but I don't like it and prefer this one.
Anyway thank oyu for coming back with smile ;)
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James "Busdriver" Scott  Pro User  says:

No problem Hamed.

I appreciate harder scoring on my own pictures because it challenges me to be better. I realize not everyone is like this, and yes, even in this group many people come so that they can have a bunch of strangers tell them how wonderful their shots are.

Criticism can be hard to take, especially if you feel it's unjustly deserved. However, once you accept that even the most "unfair" criticism holds some truth, then you can apply what you've learned and create better images. At least, that's my own opinion. :)

I think one thing people forget is that while there is a definite technical side and technical scoring to this group, there is an equal amount of subjective scoring as well (impact and opinion). By necessity, no matter how objective you can be on the technical side of things, at least half of everyone's score is going to be the scorer's personal opinion.
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jocieposse (aka skid ho)  Pro User  says:

I like the composition and the idea of using the sun in this way. I have to agree with some of Xenon's comments. The brightness doesn't so much bother me - I like the effect around the head of the flower and the the colors are nice. But there's just no focus to this at all. If you set it on shutter priority (I still call it that =P) at a rapid speed, it should still give you a nice big aperture so that you keep the DOF (if you reshoot)...I would think...someone correct me if I'm wrong. You might lose some of your color, though. Personally, I like it the way it is with the exception of the lack of focus...which ruins it, unfortunately. Sorry! Great idea and a hard shot to do, I'm sure.

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Technical 2/5
Impact 3/5
Achieved Aim 3/5
Opinion 2/5

TOTAL 10/20

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Hengam says:

Great great shot!

* Curious, the word "Saber", your last name, in spanish means knowlege !
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Serge Marx  Pro User  says:

Technical 3/5
Impact 3/5
Achieved Aim 3/5
Opinion 3/5

TOTAL 12/20

Firstly - great title! Secondly - great idea!

Next... well, I made some comments above which I stand by. If your foreground is to be a part of the picture, it should hold our interest a bit more. Understand you intentions with the focus - not sure if it worked here though. I also understand why you lioek the shot - I would too.

I'd love to see this theme explored as a series - a whole range of different flowers backlit by the sun. how cool would that be!


(from the Critical Masses group)
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

@Hengam: Knowledge?! I didn't know! Thanks a lot :)
FYI, Saber means some kind of fence in English (also Sabre). But the original meaning of my family is "Who has patience".

@theXenon: I didn't understand yet that how the Shutter Priority (S Mode) can help this shot. As you can see in the EXIF, the shutter speed was 1000, I think it's a fast shutter speed! (At least the fastes of my camera). How it could help the shot if I increase the shutter speed, I don't know!

@jocie: You know, if the problem was DOF, I should choose the Aperture Priority, not the Shutter Priority mode, koz the shutter speed does not affect the DOF, but the aperture will affect it! I know this, and as you can see again in EXIF, I choosed F/4 for aperture, the largest one I could select because of shutter speed limit (my camera has F/2.8 to F/8). I didn't choose a thighter aperture because I wanted to blur the foreground bushes. If I tried more on the focus, the shot should have less problems of course. But if due to theXenon's suggestion, I increase the shutter speed, the DOF would be shallower and shallower, so the focus should be harder and harder, exactly the reverse of what you said.
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Serge Marx  Pro User  says:

what was suggested was that you can select a super high shutter speed and a super wide aperture. But since you only go to 1/1000 - maybe drop your iso as low as it can go... which it may have been. I should probably read your exif before making comments like that! ;-)
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jocieposse (aka skid ho)  Pro User  says:

right, that's what i was saying - you want that large aperture for a good shallow DOF. i like the DOF you have here, so my concern was with using the shutter priority, would you lose your DOF if the aperture is set automatically. I would think with a really high shutter speed the camera would give you the large aperture you want. when i say large aperture i mean the size of the hole, not the number. is that where you're confused?
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Sniper Adams [deleted] says:

Well what can i say. Very original. Great photo. But of course you need as the above comments stated. Shallow DOF. Super-wide aperture. Very small ISO. And of course super-fast shutter. If I were you I would take a film camera with 50iso velvia transparency. Film would work very well here in these extreme conditions. Also, Hamed, if you use a telephoto lens with an extension tube for macro you will get a really shallow DOF and you don't have to close in on the flower. But you may find the DOF a bit too shallow. The other way is to use a telephoto lens woth a macro setting. Telephoto's would give you a shallower DOF and a flatter background. Also, I don't think theXenon gave you a revenge score. We all love our photos but we have to understand sometimes that they may be not as good technically as we'd like them to be. I think this photo still works as a very small one. This way you can't see that its overexposed and out of focus. Might be a good postcard. Oh yes, almost forgot. Although a polarising filter may kill a stop it works real good in sunny weather -)

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Technical 3/5
Impact 4/5
Achieved Aim 4/5
Opinion 3.5/5

TOTAL 14.5/20

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Jake Lowe says:

Technical 3/5
I'm assuming you wanted the focus on the petals however it doesn't quite get there (really only a fraction out). I think you could have used a slightly smaller aperture so that the yellow part of the flower was also in focus as well as the petals. I do like the exposure however, I think the glare works quite well.

Impact 3/5
I think that the busy foreground detracts from this piece and diverts the viewers attention from where it should be (the flower)

Achieved Aim 3/5
See the comments for technical and impact.

Opinion 3/5
This shot does have alot of potential and at first glance. Before I full viewed it, it really did look great. However when the finer details came into place there were a few things that just weren't quite 'there'

TOTAL 12/20

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T O K T A M  Pro User  says:

this is amazing.......... so beautiful!
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martellobrasile says:

so nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ehsan Khoshsirat says:

zibast...
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Corgiflore  Pro User  says:

Beautiful !
(looking like one of my pic, but yours is better)

Thank you to make me laught, Hamed ! ;0))
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*Brunna Peretti* says:

Gorgeous!!!!
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PhotoLab XL says:

Great shot!!
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mirkazemian says:

You are professional photographer.
very very nice!
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Esmaeil Äzhdahak  Pro User  says:

Beautiful. Gaze to the Sun
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sarradana says:

It is amazing! great shot!
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nascity  Pro User  says:

Owww the strong light looks great...fantastic shot...
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Damgaard, (TheObsessivePhotographer.com)  Pro User  says:

Great shot, wonderful composition!

The World Through My Eyes
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KC, says:

nice shot
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Amy Eileen  Pro User  says:

Oh wow, the lighting here is amazing and what fantastic color!
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saldous  Pro User  says:

Wow..!! Turned out great, should be hanging on a wall somewhere. =-) 1-2-3
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kajo55  Pro User  says:

Well, I'm not a photgraphy expert or anything. I only know what I like when I see it. I love this shot. You have a different perspective and composition than I've seen and it works for my eyes. :-) I also like the lighting of the petals... nice work!

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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

Thanks a lot for all your comments

@kajo55: And thanks for your invitation

@saldous: Due to the copyright statement I selected, you can print it and use it for any non-commercial purpose. I posted the original size just for this reason ;)
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California Grandma K says:

Interesting effect. looks like viewing thru thick glass.
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Sabspecks  Pro User  says:

this is wonderful!! an instant fave..

The World Through My Eyes
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randyand23 [deleted] says:

magic light...instant fave !

The World Through My Eyes
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urish  Pro User  says:

great angle
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Rafał S  Pro User  says:

Interesting angle and nice use of strong backlight. A little blury though.
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broadcasterTR  Pro User  says:

Excellent use of light, very good job.
Congratulations.
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Yeganeh Khoie says:

Like a sun on the earth. Similar to the suns drawn in the childhood....
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

@Yeganeh Khoie: Thanks Yegi jan :)
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Coren@ says:

Great composition. I love the simplicity.

>>>seen on
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Sasaki Makoto  Pro User  says:

beautiful colors!
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Nuno R.  Pro User  says:

This is great! You got lucky with this one, but it is absolutely fantastic!

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Southcoasting  Pro User  says:

Lovely shot (1-2-3)
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fdecomite  Pro User  says:

nicely done !
twtme
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strawman* says:

Beautiful lighting. Very nice capture.

1-2-3
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Mahboop says:

great, fantastic colours
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Just...Sierra. [deleted] says:

i love this picture!
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miranda4flicker says:

perfect
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[bastian.]  Pro User  says:

That´s very cool! Excellent composition.

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sverrelerre says:

that's amazing man - cant wait for spring to try that out here in Norway as well!
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den_dijk  Pro User  says:

Nice catch.

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Puur  Pro User  says:

a Spectaculair view !

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elbud  Pro User  says:

very nice
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Britta's world of photos  Pro User  says:

A fantastic picture with a wonderful play of light and shadow. I have to try that, too, as soon as spring brings flowers and sunshine.
Marvellous!

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hazeleyesx14 says:

thats a good photo. i took a picture like that too!
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The crazy Colombian  Pro User  says:

Just wanted to drop in a quick 'Thank You' for making this beautiful photograph available under Creative Commons; I have used it as an introduction into my blog post entitled Wise advice from Dan Millman: “Just fit in until you find out where you stand out”

-The crazy colombian
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Hamed Saber  Pro User  says:

You are welcome diegovv
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The Challenge  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Flower in the sky (1 post = 1 comment), and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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Chloe Clay says:

Wonderful dof here and the lighting is just perfect...
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cipria7 says:

complimentiii...bellissima foto
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ⓙasminⓕlower has been blessed!  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called The UnderSide of Flowers, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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allr1  Pro User  says:

Beautiful beautiful beautiful. Wonderful perspective,
Wonderful light. Unique shot of your camera.
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Dead Air  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Weekly Theme Photography, and we'd love to have this added to the group!

This Week's Theme is Shadows!
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Thøger  Pro User  says:

Very nice composition!

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viajvia  Pro User  says:

Wow, this transparent flower looks almost magical!

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Lauren Elizabeth07  Pro User  says:

Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Every Natural Wonder, and we'd love to have this added to the group!
flickr.com/groups/nature101/
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