In Renaissance paintings God and other important religious figures were painted larger in scale to show thier importance.
Beth: Careful! This is a medieval characteristic, since it's not very real for some figures to be larger than others right? I mean George Bush isn't 5x the size of everyone else - ha112_andreamena
This dark figure looks like it is floating in space and not actually standing on the rock, which i think is a characteristic of the medieval or proto renaissance period. There is a lack of realism to it - jbonsanti
This is end of the 13th century because western society began to refer and become inspired by Roman work i.e. the Doric Chiton/ Byzantine Pallium (toga) that Jesus and Co. have draped. www.bible-researcher.com/headcoverings3.html - nicholasmoncada
This painting is probably from the Renaissance. It's landscape and buildings are three dimensional and show more depth than earlier paintings from the middle ages. - hhuttema
Another reason this is an early Renaissance painting is because the human forms shown (although enlarged) are still a much more realistic form than the way they were being painted in the middle ages, which was much more free flowing and off scale. - hhuttema
Is Christ's body in proportion? Or is it elongated like the figures in the medieval mosaic?
Do these feet look like they stand on the ground and support the weight of the body?
Jesus appears to be slightly floating above the rock instead of standing on it. - arringtonamanda
The buildings in this painting is a great example of modeling. They look very 3d, especially in comparison to the "human" figures. - arringtonamanda
even the sky above the being is darker compared to the angels behind god in the upper right corner. - shakirabateman
I think this painting has MEDIEVAL style. It lacks realism, images and its proportions aren't balanced. The scenario; from times where people were very much intimidated by the church or religious believes. see the fear of the people behind jesus. And jesus between the good & the bad. Medieval style - diana_latorre06
Right under his eyebrow, there is very rich dark shadow. There is also on his lower cheak. Those shadows on his face make it more smooth, round, and real. In fact, this is the most realistic part of this paiting. - kumestar
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It looks medieval. The artist barely knows how to do the drapery, all the figures including the castles are floating because there's no foreshortning and no shadows underneath them, the theme of the painting is religious and not humanistic, and the people are bigger than all the castles. Plus, the shapes of the bodies look a little awkward, especially Jesus's. His upper body is so small that it seems his intestines can't fit in there.
However, I can't say this "must be" medieval, because it's not totally flat and the castles in front are bigger than the ones in the back. And even though the perspective isn't right, we can clearly see that the castles are 3 dimensional, and there are various lights and darks on the rocks. So I should say it's between Proto-Renaissance and Middle Ages.
This painting appears to derive from the Middle Ages. Becuase of the specific details of this painting, I would say that it was painted somewhere in between the middle ages. The dark angellike figure reflects the Middle Ages, ecause this Middle Ages were often desribed as the Dark Ages. This was because of the decline for 'human achievement.' I feel like this piece of art is almost associating Christ with the dark rhelm. In the painting you can see Christ lending out a hand to a figure that is almost looked down upon. This piece can also be considered from the Middle Ages, because it focuses on the teachings of Christ and the church. Christ standing on a rock above town almost creates an illusion that he is empowering and above all. This artwork creates a powerful statement and force forseen by Christ and the people of the town who look up to him. The Middle Ages also are where medieval was dervied from. The buildings and cathedreals in this painting reflect the medieval sense in that they have the large windows and oversized architecture. When one typically things of medieval, castles are usually a forward thought and this painting seems to display castle like buildings.
This painting seems to be done in the Middle ages. The first thing i realize when looking at this painting is the scale of the figures to the buildings. Artists from this time used hieratic scale in paintings, making saints or members of the family of God larger in scale. The unimportant figures were drawn smaller. Humans are not even shown in this painting. The middle ages concentrated on the relationship with God. It seems as if God or Jesus in the painting is shunning the demon and pointing him to leave. People during the middle ages did not understand the world. They prayed and had faith that everything would work out. Although the painting does have depth and space, if you compare it with a painting from the Renaissance it has much less space and three dimension depth.
I agree that this painting was done in the Middle Ages. As others have pointed out, Christ is the central figure of the painting, towering above all the others literally and figuratively. The Renaissance is when people started to gain knowledge of the world and not to only look to God for everything; this painting contradicts that. The figures to the right are looking to Christ, pleading that he will make this demon-like creature leave; they believed that asking help from God was their only option. The architecture of the buildings down below is also an example of this being a Middle Age painting, since they are done in a gothic style.
I think this painting is from the Middle Ages. The painting is focusing on God and the angels The painting has a religous nature which is a characteristic of the Middle Ages. The castles in the painting are a sign of medieval times. It shows the power of God as he stands on the rock above the city. He is protecting the city. I don't see the evil that others have mentioned. It looks to me like God is sending the angel down to proctect the city.
In my opinion, this painting has a strong quality if fresco painting, and I can relate that to the painting in the arena chapel from the module. In fresco painting, the quality looks very ancient, almost cracked and peeling away which is most evident in the sky of this painting. I feel it may be a painting from the Renaissance era mostly for the usage of space in this painting. We can see landscape. There is foreground, middle ground and backround, we can feel the dimensions, and different proportions lead me to believe it tends to want to look the most realistic possible. True the proportions are sort of unrealiztic considering the size of figures, but I know that there is plenty of symbolism behind the objects and everything is intentional. Another reason why I am led to believe that this is a Renaissance period is due to the expression of the faces of each character. For example in this painting we see the devil frowning, upset at the arrival of Jesus, who apparently seems to have saved the cities. Jesus' face is full of tranquility and harmony and the angels, to me at least, seem to look up to him in a sense of admiration. These expressions are also noticed in the painting we reviewed called the Lamentation, as Mary's expression and the surrounding people, becomes significant.
This painting looks Medieval to me – the Medieval Art was reflecting a relationship with God and religion , which was of an interest of people back then big time. The proportions of the people shown on the picture are strange- they are not made as regular people on purpose – their size is huge compared to the castles around. This is an evidence of this painting being a Medieval painting – in Renaissance the scale of people should be different. Jesus that’s is painted on the picture point out to the demon as if he orders him not to do something again or tells him to leave. Jesus is also can be seen in full, when the angels are a little bit on a side .I think that the painter clearly pointed out on two most important figures in this painting- Jesus and the Demon. Draperies show the form of the body underneath a little bit .We can also notice modeling (chiaroscuro) when looking closely at the castles at the bottom of the painting. The artists creates a sense of 3D picture at the bottom of the picture , it is almost a line that divides the picture into 2 parts , though the rest of the picture remains mostly flat, except the Jesus’ feet .
This painting appears to be from the Middle Ages to me. Paintings of the Middle Ages are more focused on peoples relationship with God then the actual form of the body. As you can see, Jesus' body is out of proportion and we do not see the Angels full bodies. I also think that this painting could be early renaissance because of the three dimensional buildings and landscapes. Also on the dark angel, the human form is shown more.
I think that this painting is from the medieval era. It is clear that things are not painted in a accurate scale to real life. The body is not in proportion, however the anatomy of the body does make sense. there doesn't seem to be a sense of weight because Jesus appears to be kind of hovering above the rock. The figures are not arranged porportionaly to the background. There is foreshorting with Jesus and the dark angel, however Jesus is the figure that stands out the furthest. There is a sense of space. This is caused by the peaks and valleys in the rocks and with the shadowing. Also, the buildings and "mountains" appear 3d and Jesus and the dark angel appear flat. Its looks like the painting was painted and then Jesus and the dark angel were pasted on top of it.
I agree with my classmates this painting appears to have been made during the renaissance. During this period religious figures were drawn larger to display its importance. As you can see the picture is three dimensional along with great depth and detail because you can see more of the town in the distance behind and in front of the major figures. A technique further expressed during the renaissance rather than the Middle Ages. Another characteristic of the renaissance was the use of drapery and the life like figures. In the painting it appears that God is banishing a fallen angel or evil. For example in the painting God is pointing at the dark being, further more the dark being is in all black, even the sky above the being is darker compared to the angels behind god in the upper right corner. The dark angel appears to be afloat while God is grounded with his feet firmly on the mountain. In contradiction God hand looks to be not pointing but touching the being because his face appears merciful.
At first glance, I strongly felt that this painting was created in the Renaissance, however, after looking at it again, I can now see some of the medieval features of the piece. Although there are few Renaissance features, such as the modeling on the castle, the vast majority of it does portray medieval features. Clearly, there is not a Humanist point of view in the painting as there was in the Renaissance. Medieval paintings were almost always religious in their purpose being that most of Europe was illiterate at that time and used paintings to understand the stories in the Bible. Also, after looking at the painting again, the figure of Christ appears flatter and slightly less life like than before. I found it slightly confusing to decipher the time span when this was created being that I see medieval and Renaissance aspects in it, however, now I can more clearly see the Medieval features.
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At the moment when I first looked this painting, I thought it was made in the Renaissance because I saw some space behind the Crist, and the infront of him. Comparing to the painting in the Proto-Renaissance in mini-lecture, this painting has a lot richer shadows on the Crist's face. Those rocks look rugged, and also their heights are different from each other, so I can see the distance between those rocks. All those buildings' heights depths are various, and their lines look like drawn by rulers; in other words, those buildings are accuracy three dementioned, although they themselves don't look very real. There are certainly the body line of the Christ and evil. Christ's right leg seems bended, and his weight seems mostly on his left. The evils thighs look heavier than his calves. However, more I looked, more I realized that there were also some charactoristics from the medieval era. Forexample, I guess the larger figures of Christ, evil, and angels than those cities are showing how important to human beings the God's world was. So, I think that thinking God more importantly is the feature of the medieval era. Since people in the medieval era did not know how to describe people's figure in three demention yet, I beleive this painting is made some time in very early Renaissance when artists were still using the medieval features, but trying new Renaissance features as well.
Careful -- just because this painting is a religious subject, does NOT mean that this is medieval and not Renaissance. Western art is primarily religious in subject matter until the 1700s! And I want to talk not about the subject here, but how the artist painted space and the body etc.
Looking at the figure of Christ, can anyone tell me if there is a sense of the body underneath the drapery here? I think only one or two of you did that, and that no one gave me examples ("I can see the knee pressing through the drapery") That is one of the FIRST questions you should ask yourself -- and it is a question I listed for you in my silly "BAD FEMS" document.
Related questions are: 1) Is the body in correct proportion? If not, how can you tell -- you must explain what you see that makes you say that. 2) Does the figure have a sense of weight?
In case you can't tell, the background here is flat gold (yes, literally gold leaf). Any differences that you see there in light and dark are just the reproduction or the results of aging.
Now, do you think a flat gold background is a medieval or a Renaissance characteristic?
Oh...I did not mean that Christianity is not important after Renaissence. I just thought Humanity is more about human than thinking about God. Since even in my English-Japanese dictionary, I could not find any clear difinition of Humanity, so I might have miss understood. Anyway, I was thinking like this; in Medieval era, the world did not care about personal existance. The lords, kings, and Gods were what mattered at that time, and they were also the only subjects for Arts. But in Renaisence, people realized their own lives, and as a result, artists started to draw subjects in scientifically correct way like Foreshortening so that those works of art had some reality. I'm not sure what I'm thinking is right for how it was in both eras, so if Beth could make me clear, that would help so much. By the way, in this painting, the God, evil, and angels are drawn bigger than cities where actual people existed. Therefore, I see some sense from Medieval era as well as the feature from Renaissence; for example, the spacing between all those objects in the paintings like buildings, rocks, etc. About the propotion of the Christ, I see the sense of his body line. For example, his left elbow looks out and down a little bit since his left twist is bended down. As Beth mentioned, I could also see his knee bending under the robe which looks curvy. I also see his left leg is pretty much straight and from the way the drapey is spreading from his left to right, so his weight is almost on his left leg, but it's moving toward to his right leg since he is trying to catch the evil. I am sorry if I wrote too much.
I thought the background was the contrast in coloring going from light to dark. I am still not sure if the painting is a medieval or Renaissance charateristic but if i had to take a guess it would be Rnaissance. The reason i chose that era is because the symobic character used int the picture such as Christ
Are you saying that because Christ is in the painting it is from the Renaissance? I am asking for an examination of how the painting LOOKS in terms of the treatment of the human figure and the treatment of space and those kinds of issues that I raised in my mini-lectures and audios.
although I don't know much about paintings and history... for me, this picture belongs to the Medieval period due to the perspective used, the body is out of proportion and the forms and shares are out of proportion as well...
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DUCOBI 83 months ago | reply
It looks medieval. The artist barely knows how to do the drapery, all the figures including the castles are floating because there's no foreshortning and no shadows underneath them, the theme of the painting is religious and not humanistic, and the people are bigger than all the castles. Plus, the shapes of the bodies look a little awkward, especially Jesus's. His upper body is so small that it seems his intestines can't fit in there.
However, I can't say this "must be" medieval, because it's not totally flat and the castles in front are bigger than the ones in the back. And even though the perspective isn't right, we can clearly see that the castles are 3 dimensional, and there are various lights and darks on the rocks. So I should say it's between Proto-Renaissance and Middle Ages.
courtneyregele 83 months ago | reply
This painting appears to derive from the Middle Ages. Becuase of the specific details of this painting, I would say that it was painted somewhere in between the middle ages. The dark angellike figure reflects the Middle Ages, ecause this Middle Ages were often desribed as the Dark Ages. This was because of the decline for 'human achievement.' I feel like this piece of art is almost associating Christ with the dark rhelm. In the painting you can see Christ lending out a hand to a figure that is almost looked down upon.
This piece can also be considered from the Middle Ages, because it focuses on the teachings of Christ and the church. Christ standing on a rock above town almost creates an illusion that he is empowering and above all. This artwork creates a powerful statement and force forseen by Christ and the people of the town who look up to him.
The Middle Ages also are where medieval was dervied from. The buildings and cathedreals in this painting reflect the medieval sense in that they have the large windows and oversized architecture. When one typically things of medieval, castles are usually a forward thought and this painting seems to display castle like buildings.
tapemymouthshut3 83 months ago | reply
This painting seems to be done in the Middle ages. The first thing i realize when looking at this painting is the scale of the figures to the buildings. Artists from this time used hieratic scale in paintings, making saints or members of the family of God larger in scale. The unimportant figures were drawn smaller. Humans are not even shown in this painting. The middle ages concentrated on the relationship with God. It seems as if God or Jesus in the painting is shunning the demon and pointing him to leave. People during the middle ages did not understand the world. They prayed and had faith that everything would work out. Although the painting does have depth and space, if you compare it with a painting from the Renaissance it has much less space and three dimension depth.
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shopaholic925@sbcglobal.net 82 months ago | reply
I agree that this painting was done in the Middle Ages. As others have pointed out, Christ is the central figure of the painting, towering above all the others literally and figuratively. The Renaissance is when people started to gain knowledge of the world and not to only look to God for everything; this painting contradicts that. The figures to the right are looking to Christ, pleading that he will make this demon-like creature leave; they believed that asking help from God was their only option. The architecture of the buildings down below is also an example of this being a Middle Age painting, since they are done in a gothic style.
janinemas 82 months ago | reply
I think this painting is from the Middle Ages. The painting is focusing on God and the angels The painting has a religous nature which is a characteristic of the Middle Ages. The castles in the painting are a sign of medieval times. It shows the power of God as he stands on the rock above the city. He is protecting the city. I don't see the evil that others have mentioned. It looks to me like God is sending the angel down to proctect the city.
myoyostud1227 82 months ago | reply
In my opinion, this painting has a strong quality if fresco painting, and I can relate that to the painting in the arena chapel from the module. In fresco painting, the quality looks very ancient, almost cracked and peeling away which is most evident in the sky of this painting. I feel it may be a painting from the Renaissance era mostly for the usage of space in this painting. We can see landscape. There is foreground, middle ground and backround, we can feel the dimensions, and different proportions lead me to believe it tends to want to look the most realistic possible. True the proportions are sort of unrealiztic considering the size of figures, but I know that there is plenty of symbolism behind the objects and everything is intentional. Another reason why I am led to believe that this is a Renaissance period is due to the expression of the faces of each character. For example in this painting we see the devil frowning, upset at the arrival of Jesus, who apparently seems to have saved the cities. Jesus' face is full of tranquility and harmony and the angels, to me at least, seem to look up to him in a sense of admiration. These expressions are also noticed in the painting we reviewed called the Lamentation, as Mary's expression and the surrounding people, becomes significant.
Natalia_Shaulova 82 months ago | reply
This painting looks Medieval to me – the Medieval Art was reflecting a relationship with God and religion , which was of an interest of people back then big time. The proportions of the people shown on the picture are strange- they are not made as regular people on purpose – their size is huge compared to the castles around. This is an evidence of this painting being a Medieval painting – in Renaissance the scale of people should be different. Jesus that’s is painted on the picture point out to the demon as if he orders him not to do something again or tells him to leave. Jesus is also can be seen in full, when the angels are a little bit on a side .I think that the painter clearly pointed out on two most important figures in this painting- Jesus and the Demon.
Draperies show the form of the body underneath a little bit .We can also notice modeling (chiaroscuro) when looking closely at the castles at the bottom of the painting. The artists creates a sense of 3D picture at the bottom of the picture , it is almost a line that divides the picture into 2 parts , though the rest of the picture remains mostly flat, except the Jesus’ feet .
annamaria_vitale 82 months ago | reply
This painting appears to be from the Middle Ages to me. Paintings of the Middle Ages are more focused on peoples relationship with God then the actual form of the body. As you can see, Jesus' body is out of proportion and we do not see the Angels full bodies. I also think that this painting could be early renaissance because of the three dimensional buildings and landscapes. Also on the dark angel, the human form is shown more.
arringtonamanda 82 months ago | reply
I think that this painting is from the medieval era. It is clear that things are not painted in a accurate scale to real life. The body is not in proportion, however the anatomy of the body does make sense. there doesn't seem to be a sense of weight because Jesus appears to be kind of hovering above the rock. The figures are not arranged porportionaly to the background. There is foreshorting with Jesus and the dark angel, however Jesus is the figure that stands out the furthest. There is a sense of space. This is caused by the peaks and valleys in the rocks and with the shadowing. Also, the buildings and "mountains" appear 3d and Jesus and the dark angel appear flat. Its looks like the painting was painted and then Jesus and the dark angel were pasted on top of it.
shakirabateman 82 months ago | reply
I agree with my classmates this painting appears to have been made during the renaissance. During this period religious figures were drawn larger to display its importance. As you can see the picture is three dimensional along with great depth and detail because you can see more of the town in the distance behind and in front of the major figures. A technique further expressed during the renaissance rather than the Middle Ages. Another characteristic of the renaissance was the use of drapery and the life like figures. In the painting it appears that God is banishing a fallen angel or evil. For example in the painting God is pointing at the dark being, further more the dark being is in all black, even the sky above the being is darker compared to the angels behind god in the upper right corner. The dark angel appears to be afloat while God is grounded with his feet firmly on the mountain. In contradiction God hand looks to be not pointing but touching the being because his face appears merciful.
jeaninefajardo 82 months ago | reply
At first glance, I strongly felt that this painting was created in the Renaissance, however, after looking at it again, I can now see some of the medieval features of the piece. Although there are few Renaissance features, such as the modeling on the castle, the vast majority of it does portray medieval features. Clearly, there is not a Humanist point of view in the painting as there was in the Renaissance. Medieval paintings were almost always religious in their purpose being that most of Europe was illiterate at that time and used paintings to understand the stories in the Bible. Also, after looking at the painting again, the figure of Christ appears flatter and slightly less life like than before. I found it slightly confusing to decipher the time span when this was created being that I see medieval and Renaissance aspects in it, however, now I can more clearly see the Medieval features.
kumestar 82 months ago | reply
I'm sorry I'm late. I had really hard time to log on to SLN.
At the moment when I first looked this painting, I thought it was made in the Renaissance because I saw some space behind the Crist, and the infront of him. Comparing to the painting in the Proto-Renaissance in mini-lecture, this painting has a lot richer shadows on the Crist's face. Those rocks look rugged, and also their heights are different from each other, so I can see the distance between those rocks. All those buildings' heights depths are various, and their lines look like drawn by rulers; in other words, those buildings are accuracy three dementioned, although they themselves don't look very real.
There are certainly the body line of the Christ and evil. Christ's right leg seems bended, and his weight seems mostly on his left. The evils thighs look heavier than his calves.
However, more I looked, more I realized that there were also some charactoristics from the medieval era. Forexample, I guess the larger figures of Christ, evil, and angels than those cities are showing how important to human beings the God's world was. So, I think that thinking God more importantly is the feature of the medieval era.
Since people in the medieval era did not know how to describe people's figure in three demention yet, I beleive this painting is made some time in very early Renaissance when artists were still using the medieval features, but trying new Renaissance features as well.
beth h. 82 months ago | reply
Careful -- just because this painting is a religious subject, does NOT mean that this is medieval and not Renaissance. Western art is primarily religious in subject matter until the 1700s! And I want to talk not about the subject here, but how the artist painted space and the body etc.
Looking at the figure of Christ, can anyone tell me if there is a sense of the body underneath the drapery here? I think only one or two of you did that, and that no one gave me examples ("I can see the knee pressing through the drapery") That is one of the FIRST questions you should ask yourself -- and it is a question I listed for you in my silly "BAD FEMS" document.
Related questions are:
1) Is the body in correct proportion? If not, how can you tell -- you must explain what you see that makes you say that.
2) Does the figure have a sense of weight?
beth h. 82 months ago | reply
In case you can't tell, the background here is flat gold (yes, literally gold leaf). Any differences that you see there in light and dark are just the reproduction or the results of aging.
Now, do you think a flat gold background is a medieval or a Renaissance characteristic?
kumestar 82 months ago | reply
Oh...I did not mean that Christianity is not important after Renaissence. I just thought Humanity is more about human than thinking about God. Since even in my English-Japanese dictionary, I could not find any clear difinition of Humanity, so I might have miss understood. Anyway, I was thinking like this; in Medieval era, the world did not care about personal existance. The lords, kings, and Gods were what mattered at that time, and they were also the only subjects for Arts. But in Renaisence, people realized their own lives, and as a result, artists started to draw subjects in scientifically correct way like Foreshortening so that those works of art had some reality. I'm not sure what I'm thinking is right for how it was in both eras, so if Beth could make me clear, that would help so much.
By the way, in this painting, the God, evil, and angels are drawn bigger than cities where actual people existed. Therefore, I see some sense from Medieval era as well as the feature from Renaissence; for example, the spacing between all those objects in the paintings like buildings, rocks, etc.
About the propotion of the Christ, I see the sense of his body line. For example, his left elbow looks out and down a little bit since his left twist is bended down. As Beth mentioned, I could also see his knee bending under the robe which looks curvy. I also see his left leg is pretty much straight and from the way the drapey is spreading from his left to right, so his weight is almost on his left leg, but it's moving toward to his right leg since he is trying to catch the evil.
I am sorry if I wrote too much.
beauty4cuty 82 months ago | reply
I thought the background was the contrast in coloring going from light to dark. I am still not sure if the painting is a medieval or Renaissance charateristic but if i had to take a guess it would be Rnaissance. The reason i chose that era is because the symobic character used int the picture such as Christ
beth h. 82 months ago | reply
Are you saying that because Christ is in the painting it is from the Renaissance? I am asking for an examination of how the painting LOOKS in terms of the treatment of the human figure and the treatment of space and those kinds of issues that I raised in my mini-lectures and audios.
lina_kinthiseng 82 months ago | reply
It looks more renaissance to me. I was googling some other renaissance paitings and the style looks very similar, with the same concepts.
Tania Bortolotti 42 months ago | reply
although I don't know much about paintings and history... for me, this picture belongs to the Medieval period due to the perspective used, the body is out of proportion and the forms and shares are out of proportion as well...
verticelli 31 months ago | reply
Mi piace questo modo di utilizzare Flickr.! Complimenti!
Sì anche per me l'immagine proposta è decisamente medievale per l'ingenuità nell'uso dello spazio e per l'accentuazione della gestualità nei corpi