iPod Amnesty Bin on Flickr

idogcow says:

I wonder how many of them still work....
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

koerner_r says:

lame switchers, but funny idea!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

twenty5pics says:

great idea!

DUMP THEM ALL!

Im sick of 'em already......

Such an overrated device........
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

arielwaldman says:

I wonder how many iPods Zune bought to make a marketing point. Notice how all the iPods in there are the same generation.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

arielwaldman says:

Additional note: Only someone stupid enough to buy a Zune would be equally stupid enough to not sell their discarded iPod on eBay
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

I think it's more of a joke than you're suggesting. Microsoft isn't actually dumb enough to think that people are going to drop their iPods in the bin -- it's a way to show they have a reasonable degree of levity.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

arielwaldman says:

I know, I just find it funny that they probably purchased iPods to make a point.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Dr_Watso says:

That's funny. I was always amazed that people still jumped on the ipod bandwagon, even though there are so many MUCH better devices that cost a whole lot less... Less than half the cost for some, and in general you get double the features and storage.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

jake4n says:

Hey Dr_Watso. Apparently you still don't get it. It's the iTunes, stupid!!!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

geobfield says:

Dr_Watso -

I have a collegue that thought the way you do. He was very anti-Apple - went through three other brands of MP3 players about three years ago - all with alleged better features than the iPod - and returned them all - his words, they sucked. He finally got an iPod and now owns four of them. Turns out they just work better - what an idea.

Disclaimer - my family now has four iPods and I own Apple stock ;-)
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

karlthetruth [deleted] says:

Uh...I have a Zune. I have downloaded thousands of songs legally for $15 a month instead of $1 per song. What's wrong with that? Were you always so cynical ariel?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

twozerozerosix says:

but karl, isn't it that you just rent those songs? when you stop paying, you don't have access to them anymore?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

jdelgoulet says:

You know what ...
We should create a " Windows Amnesty Bin" ... I'm pretty sure the bin will be full in a few minutes ... full of Windows 98, NT4, XP and of course Vista ...
Karl -> at 15$ a month I'm pretty sure you don't OWN your music ... at 0.99$ a song I have it ... for life !
Watso -> well, so you think that the majority of people using MP3 players are stupid ? Let's face it ! If some much people jump on the iPod there are an obvious reasons : design and USABILITY !!!!

But you know ... windows people don't have a clue about what it is otherwise they would just switch !
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

ChunkyBasty says:

@ Dr_Watso_

Please provide a link for the mp3 player with double the storage of the 80GB iPod. I would be the first to buy one. And, as far as features go, it plays music/movies/TV Shows/games......Should I keep going?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

PortugePunk says:

desperate much?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

outlan2000 says:

If I had a Zune I would forego any kind of bin and deposit it directly in the trash can. Sorry, Microsoft's not going to win me over with their piece of junk music player... Face it, Apple just has it right on some things--who can hold that against them? Why do people get so defensive for Microsoft (or become anti-Apple), especially if they have no vested interest in them whatsoever??
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

tim5021 says:

I love this - The Zune is dead and so is Microsoft
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

 Synaesthesia says:

If the Zune had iTunes support I would consider purchasing one. Someone drop me a line when hell freezes over.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

heyotwell says:

Actually that bin started out almost full, but employees have looted it down to the three or four broken iPods you see in there today.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

damienwright says:

Am I the only one who understands that this is only a morale-building exercise for the Zune folks? Why is everyone being so defensive? It's not like they put this bin up out in the wild (on a street corner or in a store) - it's in the privacy of their own offices.

I own an iPod and I'm certainly NOT defending Microsoft; but I know of morale-building things that we do at my job all the time. The public wouldn't understand it; it's not for public consumption. There's no need to fall apart over this.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

OndraSoukup says:

Ha, funny :D
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

heyotwell says:

"Am I the only one who understands that this is only a morale-building exercise for the Zune folks?"

damienwright, I think everyone understands that perfectly well. That it was a morale-building exercise is kinda what makes it funny.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Arzaga says:

I'm with damienwright. This is pretty standard operating procedure to get people motiviated to topple a big competitor.

I would not be surprised to find other companies -- including Apple -- do something like this for their employees to get a good laugh.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

blastcap says:

If it is a morale-boosting exercise for the Zune folks, wouldn't you think that the bin would be filled to the top with iPods? I count seven iPods in there. Not a great morale-booster. It totally misses the mark and instead reinforces what most of us already know...that the iPod is king and the Zune is never going to seriously compete with it.

...unless it was filled with iPods initially and all the Zune people have been taking them home.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

dweebert says:

Great morale boost: a half dozen iPods in a huge bin. (There's also a battery in there, indicating to me that one employee has upgraded their iPod and intends on holding onto it for quite some time to come.)

It seems rather depressing if you ask me. I presume they'd pick a bin comparable in size to their target audience, so it looks to me like fewer than 1% of the Zune team has switched to Zune. It may not be as bad as it looks, though. It could be that the team is relatively small, and this bin is for all of the iPods upgraded nationwide.

I suppose they could have seeded it 20% full or something. Then again, maybe they did and heyotwell was right.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Dr_Watso says:

@ ChunkyBasty: www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=142691
Does everything the ipod does, and more, with double the storage and a bigger screen. Next time, do your own google searches.

@Geobfield: That's a nice story. I've owned lots of other devices in the range I was speaking of, and never decided that an ipod was better... I would certainly imagine that lots of folks might prefer the operation of the ipod, but my point is, most ipod owners probably didn't even consider other devices. Thanks for the disclaimer!

@JudgeJules: They use it because of Apple's marketing. It's a fashion accessory and pop-culture thing at this point. I've got nothing against them doing so either, I was just pointing out that they should do some research on other devices with better features, more space, and more for your money overall.

Let me say that I haven't even seen a Zune in person, nor am I advocating it as a "better" device. I'm not even trying to argue here, I just noticed that a lot of folks directed comments my way on the subject! I don't think I'll be buying an ipod until it demonstrates similar value to competing devices, and I think it's silly that most ipod users don't even know what all is out there in terms of competing products. Then again, I think paying 300 bucks for designer blue-jeans is silly too, and obviously those sell quite well too.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

frogsthatmoo says:

Someone should put a windows computer in there or something.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

dweebert says:

Dr_Watso, your original post stated "less than half the cost for some" and "IN GENERAL you get double the features and storage". (Emphasis mine.) $600 is hardly half the $349 price of an 80 GB iPod, and one data point does not make a case for generality.

My laptop does way more than the Archos, and I've seen laptops for $300. Can I say that laptops are "less than half the cost [of the Archos] for some, and in general you get double the features and storage"?

Don't get me wrong, I've admired Archos devices for years. Lots of features, but they're not really competing much with iPods.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

motojourneys says:

Ha! I love the Zune and the way Microsoft integrated it so closely with their music player (Windows Media Player) much the same way Apple did...
Oh wait, am I thinking of someone else? Yep. My bad. The Zune has an additional music manager install...
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

elvisisdead says:

It's AMAZING how smug people get defensive when confronted.

Zune is just as capable as an iPod. Just like Creative and Archos. The only thing different about an iPod is the UI, and it's simply nothing to write home about. Nor is any other mp3 player's UI.

allofmp3 means that I pay about 70% less than iTunes for more music with ZERO restrictions that I OWN.

Neither is better than the other. They're different devices that offer different capabilities. People buy things based on what they prefer, not an absolute rank on the "best" scale.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

pblair says:

If someone created a Zune Amnesty Bin, it would be totally empty.

... Because no one has ever bought a Zune. :P
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Karl Gunnarsson says:

At least the poster on the bin is unusually tasteful for Microsoft.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

[alxandr] says:

if anyone is willing to throw away there iPods in favor of the crap Zune, than far be it from me to question their decision... but would anyone from Microsoft send me one of their no longer wanted iPods? I lost mine a few weeks ago. Thank you.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Dr_Watso says:

Hi Dweebert:

You're correct, in that particular case, the ipod is cheaper, but still the one I found with one google search has a bigger screen, double the space, and other features the ipod does not. The reason I used the term "in general" is because I assumed there were exceptions... Last x-mas, my sister wanted an ipod because her friends all had them. She just wanted a 4gig version, and I showed her a product that costed half as much, had twice the space, and a few other features as well... This was how it was for most of the competing devices at that time. Haven't looked for a while now, and the one she wanted didn't do video.

I didn't mean to offend anyone... At this point, I'm just responding. It's very hard to claim that Apple isn't the "higher-price for what you get" category in almost all their products.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Dr_Watso says:

A lot of those look like earlier ipods that apple screwed everyone on... Not letting them change the battery after it died way too soon, with the only option to send it back and let apple swap the battery for $99.99.

Not surprised those were thrown away if that's the case.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Cole_H says:

Hey, it's the "other Rex"!

Saw the story about your picture on iLounge. Pretty funny...

--
Seen on your photo stream. (?)
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Cory. says:

@river_man1974 those 160gb video players on the archos site are physically gigantic, and not something any sane person would ever carry around with them. the audio players (and their small video players), which are closer to the size of an ipod seem to top out at 20gb. care to rethink your pov? pwnd.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

mshahdy says:

hahah. saw the story on playlistmag. very funny.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

kokopeliartist [deleted] says:

Dr. Watso & Riverman & anyone else claiming the archos is better/more storage/etc. than an ipod - you're nearly at the size of Sony Viao or other ultra-portable laptop, so why not just go all the way? Bigger in the multimedia world isn't necessarily better.

And to ElvisisDead, load up now - allofmp3 has been dissappearing from other countries and will soon be gone entirely as it's just a bunch of thieves hiding behind Russia's inadequate legal system. You can "own" cheap music in the U.S. as well, if you hide a CD under your shirt as you walk out of the store - same thing. All you've done is pay someone for access to something -they- didn't have the rights to, so what makes you think that -you- own it now? Check out some recent articles including the arrest of one of the main guys behind allofmp3. For that matter, why bother paying anything at all unless this makes you sleep better at night - why not just go right to the peer to peer services and steal it for free like an honest thief?

To heyotwell - Hah! Best one-liner I've seen in a long time ;-)
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Starbuck05 says:

Notice how EMPTY this bin is? Hmm...makes ya wonder why people aren't giving up the iPod.....I bet the Zune bin would be overflowing!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Peon Peetie says:

funny that microsoft would even dare make the comparison.

according to CBS market watch:

By comparison, Microsoft's new Zune media player, despite heavy marketing, came in only at No. 75 on Amazon's list of 100 best-selling electronics, trailing items such as Apple's $29.99 iPod USB power adapter, at No. 65.

rather pathetic if they can't even sell as many zunes as apple can sell chargers.

thanks for posting the photo! i got a kick out of it
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Catlips de Florida says:

iPods feel good. They all do. They feel good to hold, they feel good to make work. They look like something Bang & Olufsen would make if they were interested in making something that didn't cost an arm and a leg. Even the aftermarket stuff for iPods tends to want to look decent. It's obviously not the feature set that sells them, it's the esthetics.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

nanotron says:

Even if I was demented enough to buy a Zune why in the world would I throw away my old iPod? I could give it to a family member, install Linux on it, decorate my desk with it, etc.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

eyezayear says:

Next: Microsoft zPhone

Get a life, Bill Gates.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Kerry Marion says:

I have both a 5g iPod video and a Zune. I would gladly toss the iPod in there. My iPod is bigger (60 gig), but that's about the only one up on the Zune. 7k songs is plenty for me anyways. I've stuck with Apple for years and went out on limb and tried the dark side. I'm glad I did to be honest. I used to make the same comments the Apple fans here have. No I don't work for MS..lol :)
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

fbmaxwell says:

elvisisdead says:

"It's AMAZING how smug people get defensive when confronted."

We won't hold it against you, though.

"Zune is just as capable as an iPod. Just like Creative and Archos. "

No, it is not. A colleague purchased one and had nothing but problems, returning it within 3 days. I owned an Archos and the build quality was horrendous next to the iPod.

"The only thing different about an iPod is the UI, and it's simply nothing to write home about.
...
Neither is better than the other. They're different devices that offer different capabilities."

Ever consider things like reliability, physical size, aftermarket accessories, software support, or the ability to interface with car and home audio systems? Many people make purchase decisions based on more than just a list of features.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

meichow says:

Even that sense of humour won't save them now ...

iPod rocks!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

cheeseman23 says:

@Dr_Watso: "Then again, I think paying 300 bucks for designer blue-jeans is silly too, and obviously those sell quite well too."

Have you ever even tried on a pair of expensive jeans? For the most part, they are expensive for a reason, not just to take money from rich folk. If you have tried on a pair then you would know why $300 or even $150 pairs of jeans continue to sell well, and that is usually they are priced that way for a reason. Good denim does in fact cost a lot of money (please tell me you understand that a company has to cover cost of production), and high priced jeans usually incorporate both high quality denim and also very high quality stitching. You can feel it when you touch the seams of the stitching. You can immediately tell that a pair of $150 jeans are going to last a lifetime whereas a pair of $20 jeans from Old Navy are going to last about 2 months. Literally. I (used to) own a $20 pair of pants from Old Navy and they were in threads in about 2 months. And that is from just wearing them to work, nothing crazy.

The same thing goes for an iPod. Like what was mentioned before, when you hold an iPod, you can immediately feel the quality of the construction, and when you use the UI, you can immediately tell that it works how you would expect it to work. Not how you would expect a super geek to think (attn super geeks: sometimes it's nice to think how everyone else is designed to think).

Unfortunately, the saying "you get what you pay for" usually stands true. Usually. In the case of apple, it basically always stands true. Apple will never rip you off for the sake of making money. Don't get me wrong, Apple is determined to surpass profit expectancies in order to please stock holders, but they still hold the consumers above the stock holders. Microsoft on the other hand comes up with 900 versions of its operating system in order to make money and meet profits. The Zune is only a byproduct of their greed.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

ty2umeda says:

It is quite ridiculous.
ZUNE doesn't sell by such a thing.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

gpbakalov says:

Folks, this is a cheap and stupid marketing campaign. The best thing is to continue ignoring the brown piece of crap as we have done until now.

As for the poor people out there who fell for it and actually bought themselves a brown, what can you say... another one bites the Zune!??!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

paolo91 says:

ROFL ROFL.
i bet microsoft planted those ipods... haha.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

m*folio says:

zune suxx!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

karlthetruth [deleted] says:

If I live another 60 years that gives me 720 more months. At $15 a month that means I will pay $10,800 (with the obvious caveats). As long as I keep my account active I will have access to all the music I've downloaded (legally). I bet I can download more than 10,800 songs in 60 years. I'm half way there.

I don't know about you, but music is kind of transient for me. Tastes change over time. So, what is the benefit of "owning" the songs? Am I going to to pass them on to my grandchildren?

Bravo to kerrymarion1 for being objective.

This unqualified* hatred is scary. And it's only a media player.

*I would fully understand the hatred if a Zune killed someones family.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Arzaga says:

Most of the comments here are just too obnoxious and smug. (Disclaimer: Mac user since 1984. So, I'm no Apple-hater. But the fanboys are getting annoying.)
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

karlthetruth [deleted] says:

And another bravo to kokopeliartist for knowing and telling everyone what allofmp3 is about.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

halfamitten says:

Jesus, can't people have a sense of humor, in the end, the product war will be won by Microsoft, just by how much money they have.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

xxdesmus says:

Really quite funny. It's nice to see Microsoft take a rare jab at Apple.

Who else is sick of those Apple commercials that are nothing more than blatant lies?

*raises his hand*
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

kyle.hobie says:

It's funny to me how many of you are clearly brand-loyal, and that's the first, and sometimes only criteria you use when making a purchase. GM lost it's foothold on being the largest car company in the world as a result of this! It allowed them to sit back and build same-as-usual products and still stay afloat, while other car companies were thinking innovatively and building better stuff.

It's also funny how, the subject of this thread is music players, yet somehow the OS debate becomes a major point of debate (I know, I was just talking about cars for some reason!). Microsoft's biggest problem right now is that they are trying to answer innovations made by Apple and Google, instead of leading the industry.

Because you started the OS thing, I guess I'll say it...I've used OSX some...it seems to be a pretty good OS. I think people who want to use it should use it. I've used XP more than I really wanted to...it's the best OS on the market (for people who don't have to be protected from themselves ;-). I've used Vista for some time now...it's not a step forward for MS (maybe it's OK for people who need to be protected from themselves).

I do have a question for all of you who use the Zune and the IPod...do any of you actually watch movies on them? I guess news might be okay, but I think I would reserve time for movie watching for when I could watch it on something bigger than a deck of cards! Opinion: I think one would have to be pretty desperate to escape some reality of this world to have to plug into Pirates of the Carribean on a 4:3 sub 3" screen.

Enough said...can't wait to see how many of you cuss me out for not picking a side!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

alexandersantosPT says:

Someone kept their ipod, they threw the skin and kept the ipod.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

mendonca_costa says:

cara.. muito ridiculo isso!
PERDA TE TEMPO!

VAI A MERDA A MICROSOFT
E VAI A MERDA A APPLE

DUAS BOSTAS... VIVA O LINUX!

passar bem a todos...

obs: se querem traduzir isso digita no google.com tradutor para portugues... rs
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

offtheobt says:

A couple of silly questions:

Are the iPods shown glued down, like the coins in the restroom contribution dishes?

Is there a security guard watching to make sure donations are one-way only?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Brad_Price says:

i have a playstation portable.

it plays movies, tv shows, music, and games (even multiplayer) on a bigger screen (can also plug it into the tv. I can look at pictures, surf the web. my storage is not limited (i can buy new duo sticks from newegg). did i mention i can surf the web, get rss news feeds connect to other psp systems using the wi-fi. there is even new junk i can buy that does other stuff i don't care about but it is there. Just like with every device it has its cons. the speakers on it suck but that is what headphones and external speakers are for i guess (speakers take ther personal out of it i would think)

i figured since everyone is talking about how great the ipod is (my friend has an ipod and he has had to take it back over several generations for problems). I would throw out the system that seems to be getting overlooked as a choice to me. because at $170 you are less limited to just a music player (music and small pictures is all you get from ipod for that low price).

Granted psp isn't 80 gigs. How much music can you listen to or movies can you watch at one time. Having a choice while out is good but why carry your whole media room with you? get a couple of 2gb or 4gb sticks when they are on sale and you are set (not to mention as the duo memory sticks grow so does your storage space).

Sony needs to pay me for the advert. lol

anywho... that is my 2 cents and the things i looked at when trying to actually put money into something like that.

and i am VERY sick of apples commercials. I have pc, mac osx, some linux stuff... it is all the same... whatever you are most comfortable with. but those commercials are just overly false.

ok 3 cents...
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Schroppyo says:

Zune Bin ^
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

sandrino says:

I wonder how many Zunes would be found in a similar bin were it not for the evil Microsoft overlords. The Zune is so shitty Microsoft even made one turd colored, is that mere coincidence, I think not. :P
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

boraselinturan says:

Right, I wonder how many of these belong to Microsoft employees (Zune division)?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Kurt Alan says:

zune, rhapsody, and yahoo have it figured out for music lovers - $15/month for unlimited downloads is the future. $500/year for my itunes purchases no longer makes sense. 'renting music' sounds insane - but since i first purchased the yahoo subscription last year, i'll never go back to buying tracks. however, if you're not passionate about music and only purchase a few tracks per month - probably makes sense to stick with itunes.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

_002 says:

Did anyone read the part on this picture about this bin being in "Zune headquarters"? It was probably targetted at Zune employees with old iPods. Screw eBay - this is Art!

Oh, and subscription is not rental.

Rental is where you go to a store, pay money to take one title out for some period of time, after which you return the title. You pay per rental, not per month. This exists online for movies, and does work to some degree because we're used to the idea of renting movies - movies are bigger, and in many cases, you might just watch one once and never watch it again. Would you rather pay $15 for a movie you are only going to watch once or $3? It works better in some cases than others - the best I've seen so far at this is XBox Live because it is so tightly integrated with the XBox movie player, it gives that impression of "it just works" better. I've never seen music rentals and hope I never do.

Subscription is where you pay a flat monthly fee to access ALL the content you want. So take the idea of a gym membership, but instead of going into a gym when you swipe the membership card at the door, you go into a gigantic music store where you can just take whatever you want. This only exists for music, so far as I know. All the online movie download stores I've used are either pay-per-download and/or rental. Without getting into a big sales pitch, I'll just say that URGE is my current fav on subscription because it just Rocks.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

prowebapps says:

They look so lonely in there.
Like kittens that need a home.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Dr_Watso says:

Back @ Cheeseman:

Moral of your story, don't shop at old navy. Instead, go for a tried and true brand like levi, and spend about $30-50 on a pair of jeans... They will last you just as long as those $300 designer jeans, and you don't get ripped off in the process. I suppose next you're going to tell me that a $3000 handbag holds makeup better than a $50 one. Sheesh, most of those $300 pairs of jeans come with freaking holes in them when you buy them, you don't even have to wait!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

rubso [deleted] says:

simply put, Microsoft Zune *is* AWESOME !!!!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

dacresni says:

It seems this thread has made it on ITworld.com

www.itworld.com/Tech/5051/070525amnesty/index .html
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

sandrino says:

“simply put, Microsoft Zune *is* AWESOME !!!!”

Please! Next you are going to insist that Steve Ballmer has charisma.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

hemna says:

I'm sure everyone that dumped an iPod in there just upgraded to a newer once, since they are all old models in the pict....and well....the Zune sucks ass.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

tmkerr says:

Seems very childish to me.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

jharr says:

Dr Wato you answered your own question...double the features half the cost...doesn't sound like a good combo to me. More bloat and more crap to complicate the experience done with less attention to design and poorer quality materials. That's how you get double the features for half the price, a doubly bad proposition.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

raymck says:

Whatever
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Luciano Candido says:

because instead of you to play except its ipode, do not donate they to me? I am a young Brazilian man, with 23 years of age that dreams to have one ipod, and that nor if it wants tera possibilities to buy so early, due to financial conditions exactly, this because still work. I thank if somebody to consider itself to give its old ipod to me. it sends for my house in.

Rua: 32 Quadra: 55 Casa:19
Cpa: 3 Setor: 5
Cuiaba - MT - Brasil

Cep - 78058-378

on behalf of: Luciano Candido Abadia

Thanks a lot, and I wait a donation.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Enrique T says:

LoL
I would never surrender my ipod.

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Seen on itworld.com (?)
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Ls³ says:

Zune, iPod -- eh.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Dr_Watso says:

jharr:

I used to work at best buy as a tech when I was younger, and I can tell you just from the sheer ratio of failed units to purchased units, ipods are not "better quality" than a comparable competing unit. They screwup/fail the same as any other similar device, especially the disk-based ones. Unless of course, crashing and locking up is a feature! As to your preference for the ipod interface... Great! I'm glad you like it! I never did. Certainly wasn't enough to justify paying more for less features and space.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

kokopeliartist [deleted] says:

Everyone has their own preference. Have I tried a Zune? Nope, probably never will. For the better part of two decades I've worked with both PCs and Macs, since the days of Windows 3.1 and Mac OS 7. Always preferred the Mac OS and so became an early iPod fan (after a horrendous attempt with Iomega's HipZip player about 7 years ago). Zune just doesn't offer any reason to switch away from an iPod. Maybe someone going for their first player will be more likely to consider both and balance the +s and -s, but it's hard to sway me from a product I love. That I prefer the MacOS is also part of it - and my friends and I put our Macs through their paces with photography and film & music editing (as well as script-writing, and accounting spreadsheets), which put some high-end demands on our systems.

Disclaimer: 6 people in my immediate family. 3 Mac users + 3 PC users = 6 iPods & no Zunes between us.

(btw, thanks for the props, KarltheTruth).
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

ice_mage_99 says:

Ok, there is definitely brand loyalty to iPod here which clearly prevents people from looking at the features of the zune.

Actually one GIANT feature!!! The ability to share music/photos/video with other Zune users wirelessly!!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

tarkwyn says:

Oddly enough, this was on the other side of the hallway...

flickr.com/photos/tarkwyn/513911705/
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

OndraSoukup says:

If Zune worked with Mac and it was a tad bigger (60GB would do), I'd get one. I love the sharing thing....but the limits ? Hey, I DJ and I want to spread my promosets...so ? Only 3 plays ? Come on!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

leechio [deleted] says:

If only I'd saved my scratched/broken/crashed/incompatible iPods (yes, I was a fashion-victim and bought TWO different generations) I could have used that bin!

I wonder if Microsoft will have a seperate bin for memory? After all, if people are giving up their iPods, they won't need that extra 2GB to run CoverFlow in iTunes ;)
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Jill_Gates says:

It's probably empty because the few working models that were going to be upgraded anyway were raided secretly after dark by the rest of the team.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

divebus says:

Somebody at Microsoft is an optimist, looking at the size of the bin. At least they're optimistic about something in Zune world.

I'm keeping my iPods, thank you.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Pachilles says:

iPod lovers, I am glad you are happy with them, but you need to chill with your reactions. iPod has been king for a long time, because they were the first to get their sh** together and make a decent product. Well, just like the XBox was a late entrant, so is the Zune.
Give it time.

XBox360 is now king of the new generation (Wii is not a new generational product, it's a GameCube on caffeine with a great innovative controller - gotta love it, but not NextGen).

The Zune, has a few bugs and is trying to gain some traction. It will eventually be running ahead of the pack. Maybe not THIS generation, but it will.

Innovation is what makes a product a winner. iPod basically hasn't changed much. Apple has always tried to keep a firm hold on it's IP. That's why Apple computers are a minority. Given time, iPods will be too (although with such a lead, it might be a LONG time).

iPod fanatics: Enjoy your products, but don't put down the competition, or you may find yourselves sulking right next to the PS3 owners (they'll get back on their feet, but never be the leaders again - just like Sega).

Moral: Enjoy being in the majority with a product you like, but don't be snooty, keeping your nose in the air - you just might trip. If a product meets your needs, and you like it, buy it... be it iPod or Zune, XBox360 or PS3, PC or Apple.

Personally, I don't own an MP3 player. I own an XBox360, Wii, PS2, and 4 PCs. If I want music, I know where to go... usually my car radio.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

karlthetruth [deleted] says:

No problem kokopeliartist. Dr_Watso has also been fighting the good fight against thoughtless statements. I have to say, I'm not a regular poster of comments to Flickr photos. I ended up here by clicking a link on my "list-o-links" website of choice. I started to read the comments and was taken aback by the venom some of them contained. Being a Zune owner I felt qualified to put in my two cents.

I followed the links to the blogs that fimoculous has on his blog. I just can't believe that from the iPod crowd there is such a "my way or the highway" attitude: The iPod is the only good media player. The counter-point seems to be (dare I even go here?) pro-choice of music players.

Did you know that the current Zune is really just a slightly revised Toshiba gigabeat. The player isn't the draw. The $15 a month to subscribe (thank you _002) to the library is the draw. If you don't want the Zune device you can pick from a number Urge compatible devices. It's essentially the same service. I used that with a PocketPC before I got the Zune. And that was after I got tired of changing the XM radio staion after every song.

I wouldn't expect anyone that has $1000's of dollars invested in an iPod and iTunes to go out and get a Zune. But, if you paid a couple hundred dollars and bootlegged all your music, and own a Windows PC already it might be something to consider.

Prediction: That box won't be around for long. It wasn't a crafted advertising strategy (like the Mac commercials). Just someones idea of a joke that didn't really work out.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

DouglaBryan says:

Wow....8 whole iPods. Good job Microsoft!
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

AF-Design says:

Can I trade an old iPod for one of the newer (than mine) models in there?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

andrewjvv says:

The ironic thing is that like 80% (if not more) of the people making posts bashing Microsoft are making the posts using Windows XP or Vista and 60% of you are running Internet Explorer. I'm also going to go ahead and guess that like 30% of you bought iPods without even checking small (but important) stats like battery life and backlight intensity, rather you just bought what everyone else was getting.

My personal opinion is that the iPod is way overrated, hyped up, and "cool" to have. I personally do not own an iPod because I was one of the few who actually looked at the specs for it along with the price and realized it was weaksauce because I value the quality of a product over its "cool factor." Also, how many of you were anti-Microsoft before you saw other people making a fuss about it? And how many of you run Windows everyday? Apple has good design and good quality (that is way overpriced), but they also say their products "just work."

How many of you have had your iPod freeze, your Nano scratch, your MacBook overheat, your battery explode, your fan moo like a cow, your scroll wheel lose sensitivity, your laptop case discolor and deform, your disc drive stop loading, and yet can still manage to follow a crowd into a well designed, shiny, acrylic piece of shit which apparently "just works." Get a life and think for your self.

Quick story: I have a friend who just bought a new MacBook, he claims it was because it was "awesome" and "ran well" and he agreed with the "ease of use" and "quality design", but for the first month all he did on it was download pirated movies with Limewire (after a frustrating and difficult install) and take pictures with photobooth. After that first month his disc drive broke, and now his Mac can't even properly load a CD. [sarcasm] That's ok though, because it's still what everyone wants and it still a shiny, acrylic photobooth. [/sarcasm]
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

erin dahl [deleted] says:

i WON my ipod and i STILL don't use it. POS. I'd rather be tuned into life, thanks.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

kokopeliartist [deleted] says:

Heck, I typically don't post to most articles I read, but I've been bored lately ;-)

Are Mac users cultish & defense? No doubt. For years the Windows world seemed to write off the Mac world as insignificant, and indeed Apple was nearly run into the ground before Jobs returned. Still hasn't managed to reclaim much more than 5% of users.

Now, with iTunes & iPod, Apple has turned the tables and owns the lion's share. Maybe it's the idea of "payback" that gets us going, but on the flip side it's remarkable how the non-Mac crowd is just as quick to dis Mac products and users and in the same breath call Mac users fanatical. Don't believe me? Read andrewjvv's post (actually don't, as it comes across as one of those thoughtless statements). Anyone remember when the Windows world was critical of Jobs for initially making iTunes and the store a Mac-only deal and not offering a PC-compatible version? Every Mac user laughed because for one small moment the other 95% suddenly got it.

And now we're just back to the fanaticism of both sides. To andrewjvv - I'm running Mac OS X 10.4, my browser is Safari, and I still have my 1st-gen iPod, though I prefer my 5th-gen for the storage & video. Of your list of "problems," the only one I've had is a deformed alumninum powerbook case - which is what happens when I decide to drop it onto the sidewalk. Aside from a dent on one corner, no problems in the year since (nor any with the other three powerbooks I've owned since 1993). Leave my life alone and just learn to think.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

capt.offline says:

what is a zune?
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

sandrino says:

@andrewjvv, All computers manufacturers put out lemons, despite quality control efforts a faulty computer sneaks out of manufacturing every so often. This happens to HP, Dell, Apple etc. That is one of the reasons there are warranties. In the 23 years I have owned Macs I have had many an occasion to take advantage of my Mac's warranty. I am sure that Macs break no more often than other PCs. The people who track this sort of thing have usually rated Macs as more reliable than most other PCs.

As far as the iPod goes, you seem to be missing the point. Many other players have more features, some are even cheaper that is not at issue. What makes iPods so great is the ease of use and the integration with iTunes. Other music players may have more storage and better features but none are as easy to use. You may have time to tinker with some other player to get music onto it, good for you. I rather have one that just works.

It's easy to come up with stories about problems with iPods. Simply because their market share is in the 70-90% area you are going to have more problems reported than all other players combined. The question is do iPods break more often than other players when you look at incidents divided by market share? How many of these incidents are the fault of the owner as opposed to manufacturing defect. I have owned many iPods since they came out and a couple have broken and were fixed or replaced by Apple under warranty. Most have worked and continue to do so to this day.

You also dismiss Apple's design. You may be one of those lucky owners of a turd brown Zune. For some people good industrial design is not important. For me and many other people it is. We used to have to pay extra for it, now we don't. Macs costs as much as equivalently featured PCs. My MacBook Pro runs WIndows as well as Mac OS. If I cared to, I could run it from the terminal window as a UNIX machine or even run X11. I have yet to see any PCs that work as well or do as much as any of my Macs. Good design is more than just a list of features, else Dell may have better designed PCs. Design means how these features work together to help you get things done. Sometimes it means leaving some features out in order to streamline the operation of the device. Maybe this doesn't matter to you, which is fine, use whatever PC you want. Its a little infantile, don't you think, to put Mac users down because they happen to like how their computers are designed better than other brands. Yes we think Macs are better, that's why we buy them. It would be very stupid to buy any product when you don't like it or think it doesn't work well. A product cannot both be well designed and a piece of shit, those two states are at opposite ends of the usability spectrum. you can claim that iPods or Macs are pieces of shit but you cant also complain about them being well designed. Seems an odd sort of complaint. Next you are going to argue that if we buy iPods the terrorists win.

In short, live and let live. Buy and use what you want but don't put down other people who have different tastes.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

Matt Lee (Boston) says:

I just want a player that stores a lot of music, and plays Ogg Vorbis.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

garwaymatt says:

I See the apple fanbois are out again. The ipod is not better than every other device, its just that apple have loads of mindshare. My views are much the same as matt above, in that I am not getting another ipod as they do not play oggs.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

juancnuno says:

My iPod plays oggs. That's because I hacked it with Rockbox.
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

mokata0617 says:

i want to put mine into this box too!!><""
Posted 31 months ago. ( permalink )

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