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Bronwen and me by equivocality.
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rpc7076 says:

Asian males should get a life. Why they are so obsessed about marrying white girls? There are lots of minority ladies (including latinas and blacks) who like to marry Asian men, but those idiotic Asians try to look down on them. Don't call white males are only racists in the world, cuz you are also same kind of breed as they are.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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equivocality  Pro User  says:

Your implication that Asian males are as racist as white males is baffling. This is simply a picture of two people; there are no racist remarks, or even opinions attached to it. It's obvious that you are seeing what you want to see.

By generalizing Asians as "idiotic" and "obsessed about marrying white girls", you reveal yourself to be more racist than the people you accuse.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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rpc7076 says:

What? racist? That is totally ridiculous, dude. I am also an Asian. Have you ever dated a black girl or latina girl before?
I have done it and had a fun with em. Whenever I search this website(flickr), I don't understand why many of Asian males don't have girlfriends of color (don't mention Asians). It seems like that they have forgotten about themselves being minorities. What a double standard they have.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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equivocality  Pro User  says:

Do you know if I've ever had a black or latina girlfriend before? How can you tell from this picture? And if I haven't, does this mean I never will? The fact is that you don't know any of these things, and outright accuse me of being elitist without anything to base it on.

You are going on all assumptions here. You are seeing what you want to see. Here's an example: you say, "Don't call white males are only racists" when I never said that in the first place. Here's another example: you say "Asian males are obsessed about marrying white girls" when there's no indication of obsession or prejudice in this picture.

Have you dated a Spanish girl? A Greek girl? An African girl? A French girl? A Brazilian girl? An American girl? An Iranian girl? A Mongolian girl? A Croatian girl? By your logic, I can accuse you of being prejudiced against a certain nationality if you haven't dated one of these. Or by the same logic, I can accuse you of being homophobic because you haven't tried dating a guy yet.

It's obvious that you have some issues. Do you think you're the only open-minded Asian person in the world? Does it make you feel better about yourself that you have dated people from another race? Do you feel superior when you put down other people for no reason, or for issues that you yourself have?

The fact is that race doesn't matter to many people, and they don't even consider it when dating. That's when you know someone isn't racist. Not when they say, "Good for that Asian person, he's dating a Latina girl" (or even "Good for me, I'm dating a Latina girl"), but when it's so natural that they don't even take notice of it. Obviously, you have yet to reach that point. By taking issue with race, good or bad, you're the one making a big deal out of something that isn't there.

And yes, you can be racist against your own race. Just because you are Asian doesn't mean it's okay or even logical for you to group all Asians together and stereotype them.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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rpc7076 says:

So in your own idea, eveyone should not criticize Asians, cuz all of them are all perfect. What a total BS. Right now, I understand why other minorities including Blacks and Latinos still hate us Asians. Asians always like to live in expensive houses, riding expensive cars, and hooking up with white girls as other white boys do, but when someone other than Asian criticize them for not speaking perfect English, being racist to others, and so and so, they call those folks xenophobics. Unbelievable....
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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equivocality  Pro User  says:

Ok, I'm going to approach this logically.

People can't have a debate or discussion without a foundation of logic. It's like math. Without you and I agreeing that 1+1=2, we wouldn't be able to agree to the solutions of more complex equations. It's also like English. Without you and I agreeing that the word "racism" is "a prejudice" and not "a condition of having large glands", we can't really get anywhere.

As an example related to our discussion, you say that "Asian males are obsessed about marrying white girls." You are Asian. You are male. By this logic, you are obsessed about marrying white girls. Is this true? Obviously not. Your point falls flat, by your own hypocritical admision, because you completely contradict yourself. Do you see how it's difficult for me to take you seriously with this flawed logic, cause you make absolutely no sense?

So first, let's get some terms straight:

premise
conclusion
non sequitur


And perhaps most importantly...

fallacy


Now that we have that out of the way, let's look at your point here, which proves to be a non sequitur fallacy.


(premise) Dating a white girl means that you're racist/elitist/prejudiced
(premise) An Asian male is dating a white girl
(conclusion) Therefore the Asian male is racist/elitist/prejudiced


Your argument falls flat because the first premise is wrong, very, very wrong. There are many people who date white girls, non-Asians included, and they are not racist. For an Asian be dating a white girl does not automatically, magically, make him racist.

Or perhaps this is the way you look at it:


(premise) An Asian has not dated a minority
(premise) People who have never dated minorities are racist/elitist prejudiced
(conclusion) Therefore the Asian male is racist/elitist/prejudiced


Again, the conclusion is a fallacy because the second premise is wrong. By this logic, a baby is racist because he hasn't dated a minority. Oliver Cromwell, Tycho Brahe, and Confucius were racist cause he never dated a minority (other than their own). Even you were racist at one point because there was a point in your life that you didn't date a minority. Just because someone hasn't done something, doesn't mean they never will. It's like going to someone's house to eat dinner, they cook Chinese food for you, and you accuse them of not liking Italian food. Where do you get this? By this logic, I can accuse you of being racist, because you're communicating to me in English and not Swahili, and you must think the African culture isn't good enough for you.

I never said that everyone should not criticize Asians. I never said that all Asians are perfect. I never even said that I only date white girls and look down on the other minorities, this is something you see yourself. The fact that you believe "Blacks and Latinos still hate Asians" and that "Asians always like to live in expensive houses" is much more racist than anything I've ever said or done.

For some reason, I don't think any of this will get through to you, because you already exhibit a very biased and prejudiced opinion. Nothing I say will ever change your mind, because you've already settled on your strong, closed-minded opinions. You seem to enjoy seeing things that aren't there. Anything else you say now will be somewhat pointless unless we can agree on a foundation of logic.

This foundation of logic is based on the truth of certain premises to support conclusions. And since we don't agree on certain basic premises being true (e.g. Dating a white girl means that you're racist/elitist/prejudiced), then we'll never get anywhere.

I won't argue with you anymore, as you interpret anything I say as an opinion I don't even have. I know I'm not racist. It doesn't matter if you think so or not, cause the truth is worth a million words. I just wanted to clear the reputations of the innocent Asian guys you accuse, and hopefully let you see how racist you yourself are being. Maybe one day you'll understand, so you won't be filled with so much destructive, pointless hate. Your world must be very cold, dark, and unfriendly.

And just so I have my bases covered...this is John right? You're just fucking with me right? Cause no one is this stupid, asinine, and crazy without it being on purpose. Hahahah...good one buddy. I'll talk to you tonight.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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schmearcampain says:

lol, don' waste your time with this troll
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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equivocality  Pro User  says:

I hope you're right. I hope he is a troll, because at least it would give him an excuse for being so completely idiotic.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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peroty says:

No photos. No contacts. No life. Clearly a troll.
Beautiful picture. :)
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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rpc7076 says:

Oh, so posting opposing opinion is idiotic, huh. Go ahead, equivocality, you sambo. You are just an another nice example as a white men's tool. You try to look sophisticated by only hanging around with your white friends and speak English in British Accent.
You have forgotten yourself about being Asian, a minority. Keneth Eng was right (Even though, I don't agree with him 50%). Today's Asian boys (Especially, chinese, Japanese, and Koreans) are just trying to look like too white.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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jasonshim  Pro User  says:

rpc7060, you're not idiotic because you're posting an opposing opinion, you're idiotic because you make no fucking sense. You make a racist comment based solely on a picture and then claim that you can't possibly be racist because you're Asian. Then you go on to make even more racist comments about Asian males and other minorities. Yet you don't have the balls to back your comments up with a public profile and you don't even have any pictures on your account.

So good for you for dating minorities, but it seems that it's just a way to try and boost your low self-esteem, because you feel the need to declare this on someone else's photostream. Starved for attention much? It's not like you're the poster boy for Benetton now.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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Armadilliz  Pro User  says:

thats f*cked. that stupid idiot needs to get a life. beautiful image!
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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Armadilliz  Pro User  says:

I am a white girl. My last boyfriend was half Korean, half white. My boyfriend before that was Black and Italian. I live in New York City where everyone is integrated. It's a beautiful thing. People need to stop being so closed minded. Love is not about race.
Posted 26 months ago. ( permalink )

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kiwifruit_89 says:

The frist comment totally was from a jerk. First, I came across your video "A weekend in bed", which is so inspirational, sweet and thoughtfull about men-women relationship, then I followed your home page and continued travelling to your Flickr :). Know what's my impression when seeing this photo of you guys? :) I saw l.o.v.e. How admirable, and how adorable. :)
Posted 25 months ago. ( permalink )

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vanillabricot says:

Hi. I've just opened a new group "Un monde Métisse" which means in french "An interracial world".
I invite you to join us with this or other pictures.
www.flickr.com/groups/832472@N23/

Salut.
Je viens de créer un groupe pour "Un monde métisse". Je t'invite à le rejoindre avec cette photo et/ou d'autres qui illustrent joliment le métissage.
A bientôt
www.flickr.com/groups/832472@N23
Posted 18 months ago. ( permalink )

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