- look at that body language. lean away! - bryan campen
courtesy of Rick Smolan
Steve and Bill together on stage at D. it was like watching your
divorced parents talking about the time they took you to the zoo....
They won't get back together again, and you can still remember the
fights, but somehow it's a validation of all that they created
together.
Thanks, Rick. Thanks, Walt and Kara. And thanks, Bill and Steve!
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TheAlieness GiselaGiardino²³ (61 months ago | reply)
awesome. (and very well described the feeling)
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bryan campen (61 months ago | reply)
har! awesome description.
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Tom Lord (Berkeley) (61 months ago | reply)
That elevates the whole matter in a silly way. "parents" -- sheesh.
Alternative caption: they remind us that the real debate between them is a lot more rarified and genteel than is suggested by many popular portrayals of it.
nothing ever satisfies me :-),
-t
TheAlieness GiselaGiardino²³ (61 months ago | reply)
www.technologyreview.com/Wire/18806/
(just one article among the many, nothing special)
About brian´s note on body language, while the first impression could be that ("lean away!") for what I know, they are actually very harmonic, which means that they are making rapport between each other -mirroring postures-. Beyond that they both look quite relaxed. I should see a video to tell you more on body language (for example to see who is following who in making the bodies keep the harmony dring the conversation... my bet is that bill might be more fond of making empathy (Filiatory type - make bonds) than Steve (which is the Power type - differenciates from the rest))...
Perhaps Esthr can enlighten us...
Tom Lord (Berkeley) (61 months ago | reply)
Alieness: a lot of it is that they both have good public manners and a mutually understood and respected flair for mild drama. So, one is making a point and sitting up to portray "The Speaker" while the other is reinforcing that portrayal by playing audient. They go back and forth in these roles. The downside, of course, is that in so doing they assert in the "subtext" their agreement that, whatever differences may exist between them, the locus of hegemonic authority is nevertheless on that stage somewhere. (imo) Perhaps "parent" was about right, descriptively, even while no less disturbing a characterization than I suggested.
It's not obviously bad. When one starts tossing around words like "hegemonic" it's too easy to get pegged as the relentless dissenter but, no. There is a genuine dialectic in play. Those two men are reporters.
-t
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Marjorie Lipan (61 months ago | reply)
The Apple Start page has a link to a podcast called "Steve Jobs and Bill Gates at D5." The podcast is of their interview by Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg (The Wall Street Jounal columnists who have been responsible for D5: All Things Digital conference since its inception in 2003).
You can also read a transcript of the interview.
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