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elizabeth - american flag bikini rifle

elizabeth - american flag bikini rifle by Doctor Casino.
i think there was talk of using these for her christmas cards that year...

PLEASE NOTE: This image is copyright 2004 Addison Godel. It is pending registration with the US Electronic Copyright Office. All rights reserved. Unauthorized publication of this image, or images derived therefrom, may be subject to legal action.

Update for those folks looking for answers/statements from me, but who are understandably disinclined to read all the comments below, and at the various linked images where I've chimed in....

1) Yes, this is the real photo. Yes, the Palin one is a Photoshop job. No, I didn't do the Photoshop - that turned out to be InnocuousFun who I had never met or heard of before all this. No, it's not a "real" gun.

A concise and accurate summary of the significant facts can be found at FactCheck.org. Where other sources contradict that account, or my statements here, trust the latter. FactCheck, as far as I've been able to discern, is as dry and nonpartisan as you can expect for the internet - certainly better than you'll get from my own forays into campaign bloggery!

To be avoided: Fox News's article on the episode, which manages to be a screed against a rival news organization's ostensibly poor fact-checking, while being itself wrong on points that could have easily been confirmed by either reading the FactCheck story or contacting me. I am flattered that they think Elizabeth was my girlfriend - then or ever - but, very sadly, this was not the case.

2) No, I cannot give you any more information about Elizabeth. No, I can't tell you her side of the story. I am uncomfortable issuing statements on her behalf or taking on the role of being her "manager" or anything similar; for her part, she is mainly concerned about her privacy. Both of us are riddled with mixed feelings about the Photoshop image, which makes issuing a definitive "statement" difficult; as well, it seems clear that the blogosphere/commentosphere will inevitably find its own meanings for anything we'd attempt to say. That's the way the world works - but the main point is that both of us kind of wish this whole thing would go away, not from our lives so much as from people's inboxes. More on this below.

3) Thanks for your interest, but I am really not inclined to participate in any online fora, guest blogs, podcasts, et cetera. Major news organizations should refer to the FactCheck story. If you want to put me on national television, get in touch, but only if you are willing to pay travel expenses to somewhere I'd want to visit anyway, plus charitable gifts. What I would really prefer is to be put on "Jeopardy!" and to have this be my cutesy anecdote that Alex asks me about after the first commercial break.

My reticence doesn't stem from any hostility to anybody who's written with such requests, but mainly from a sense that I personally don't have much more to say than I'm saying here, and that everyone's time would really be better spent covering actual news.

4) I am flattered by those who think I somehow have the power to wipe the Palin 'shop off the Internet, but this strikes me as unrealistic in the extreme. Strangers on my bus to work in the morning have seen the thing. Google turns up hundreds of thousands of hits for "'sarah palin' bikini." It's out of my hands - so whether you agree with my statements on this page or not, don't hold the 'shop image's existence, or distributed reach, over my head as something for which I should be responsible.

At the same time, I don't appreciate or accept my photo being used for profit, in whatever its altered state, without my permission or even my knowledge. If you see it for sale in any context, please let me know. This may also be a losing battle but frankly it is weird enough seeing my photo (and my friend's body) all over the Internet - I really don't want to see them on a T-Shirt.

The bottom line: I'm not a spokesperson for the left, for feminism, or for Barack Obama's campaign. I'm just some guy who took a photo four years ago and posted it on this blog two years ago, for the delight and entertainment of my friends. When the Palin 'shop first broke, I was amused because, I mean, I knew it was Elizabeth and it was just...bizarre. I also figured it was just one of countless 'shops being done at that time - I really could not have imagined, when it first appeared in my browser, that it would become as ubiquitous as it has.

I rather wish it hadn't. We deserve better from this election than deception and worn-out old narratives. It's deception to keep forwarding along a fake photo as a real one. It's a worn-out old narrative to imply that a female candidate (for any position, political or not) is unqualified because she has a body and sometimes puts a bathing suit on it (the "bimbo" frame-up).

Sarah Palin is in my view unqualified to be President, and being qualified to be President is really the only qualification to be Vice President. But she's not unqualified because she's a woman, or because of what's going on in her family, or because some Internet person put her face on the photo of some other Internet person. Her lack of qualification broadcasts itself right off of her resume, and is indeed the driving force behind her narrative as "hockey mom"; if she were qualified, she would lose the glow of the Everyperson.

Similarly, I think it's clear that Sarah Palin, to the extent that she has any documented policy convictions, stands for a vision of America with which I, along with millions of others disagree. Some aspects of that vision are what, no doubt, have lent this image an air of plausibility to many. Elizabeth was donning a particular stereotype of us Southerners when this photo was taken; it would have been read by our friends as hilariously out-of-character, but clearly to many people (on both ends of the Palin love/hate spectrum) they seem in-character for the Governor. But: we don't need the perverse patriotism of an American flag bathing suit (I still wonder how the Flag Code handles this) to point out how self-righteous patriotism of the "Liberals aren't really Americans!" variety poisons the well of our political discourse. And we don't need a BB gun to point out that the McCain/Palin ticket is a pro-gun ticket, calling gun control "a proven failure in fighting crime," opposing waiting periods for gun ownership, and seeking to end restrictions on assault weapons and armor-piercing ammunition.

No doubt this will all blow over soon and this text will look like the overpreening ramblings of a small man trying to elevate his teacup's tempest to the status of a major news story. I would offer this, though: I didn't choose to be thrust into the brief, fourth-tier spotlight. All I chose to do was leave the photo up and link it from a version of the other image. I caught the 'shop very early in its cycle and could have very easily taken this down; eagle-eyed viewers would still recognize the tell-tale signs of 'shopping, but many more people who now know the truth probably would still be fooled. I'm not asking for a standing ovation, but to those who have their own ideas about what I could or should have done, I do ask you to imagine yourselves in my shoes. I never quite anticipated that my life's most significant contribution in either photography or politics would be that I would not deny authorship of a candid snapshot. To quote Batman's spooky growly voice: "What would you have me do?"

When the furor blows over and bloggers can again focus on, you know, the economy, health care, education, foreign policy, and energy, this blog will continue with its normal course: pictures of architecture with academic rambling that only five people care about; and pictures of days spent with my family and friends...including any future picnics at the rock quarry. It was, after all, a really lovely afternoon. 

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Xah Lee says:

Hi, may i have permission to use your photo

elizabeth - american flag bikini rifle
www.flickr.com/photos/doctorcasino/208036176/ in/set-72157...

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at my site:
xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lanci/lanci.ht ml
it's a project that collects flag related artifacts.

Thanks.

Xah Lee
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Xah,

Please do not use this photo at your site.

Thanks.
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drsteevo66 says:

You are going to be famous now...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )

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RylandSanders says:

Yup... someone photoshopped Sarah Palin's head onto the girl's body in this photo. It's been making the rounds all over the internet.
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RylandSanders says:

Like this:

img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=palinif0.jp g
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Yes - I have saved a copy of this meme to my Flickr for archival purposes here...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )

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jimgoldstein  Pro User  says:

Addison can you confirm that you are the original photographer of this image? I've written a piece about stolen photography used for political purposes on my blog. Manipulation or Fact? The Politics of Photo Manipulation I want to be sure I'm referencing the correct photographer.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )

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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Jim - yes, I took this photograph somewhere to the east of Athens, GA in late Spring/early Summer of 2004. Thanks! Nice piece btw - didn't realize Crazy Jim Kunstler had picked this up....

If you don't mind, do you think you could insert a couple of words making it clear that I had nothing to do with the Photoshopping? Credit where credit's due, after all.

Cheers!
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jimgoldstein  Pro User  says:

Will do. Making the edit now
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Appreciate it. Just glad to make my (extremely indirect and accidental) contribution to political history.

To anyone else reading - I still have misgivings about all this. The tropes being attached to Sarah Palin here - of being unserious and also of being a sexual body rather than a professional intellect - are, not coincidentally, sexist tropes about womanhood generally. The image is funny to the extent that it plays on something specific to Palin: she is a goofball and more specifically a gun nut who makes lipservice to patriotism (a la American Flag Bikini) while harboring dubious views on fundamental American principles ("Can you tell me how to go about banning a book?"). But to the extent that it's a lightweight's first resort against a female political candidate, it's odious. The proliferation of lizard-brain responses to/uses of the image is particularly telling.

I'm not quite sure whether I want to start issuing emails asking people to take the image down; at this point it almost seems futile anyway. It's a third- or fourth-tier meme; as a meme, it can't really be contained, and as a minor one, it'll burn itself out soon anyway.
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OldDogNewTrick  Pro User  says:

I faved this one and the fake version so I can show others a side by side comparision of the original to the fake.

(and aside from that, I like it)
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dhydar  Pro User  says:

Wow! You're... um ... partially famous now! Congrats!
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gvanderleun says:

"Someone clue me in, please.

"I might be suspicious of Sarah Palin because…she holds air pellet guns? Or she seems to be born to wear American flag themed swimwear? Or she has a face that looks natural when grafted on to an image of a young lady who looks good in a bathing suit holding an air pellet gun?

"I’d really like to hear from Elizabeth about this. Is she in agreement with Doctor C on all the above? Why turn down that other poor guy who wanted to post the original photo on his site, and then begin “excitedly forwarding [the altered image] to everyone she knows”? Does this, perhaps, tie in with the reasons one should be suspicious of Gov. Palin? Are we allowed to pretend Sarah Palin wore a flag bikini and posed with a pellet gun, but we’re not allowed to know as a fact that this Elizabeth person did so? What’s the prob?"

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iseewhatudidthere says:

"Please do not use this photo at your site."

...unless it confirms your political biases, of course.

Hypocrite.
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RylandSanders says:

This appears to be the source photo for her face:

flickr.com/photos/jmedkeffphoto/542389855/
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

To the last couple of commentors:

Please explain the hypocrisy. I never said that I was against my photos being used everywhere and anywhere; I just told one specific person that I didn't want the photo used by him for a specific purpose. Also, since you're apparently capable of reading the rest of the comments, you might note that I've expressed (in detail) ambivalence about this use as well.

Re: suspicion of Palin - I think I have covered this as well in comments above, which perhaps postdate the blog entry being linked to.

Would point out to gvanderleun (or the person s[he] quotes) that there is some confusion apparently: Elizabeth is the one excitedly forwarding things; I was the one who turned down the "other poor guy."

This also doesn't compute:

"The guy who owns it has asked that the original not be used at another guy’s site, which presumably means he doesn’t want it displayed anywhere else. I’ll respect that weird, bizarre request."

1) Again, the logical leap from turning down one guy to "which presumably means he doesn't want it displayed anywhere else." No, not the case, never stated as such - you are putting words in my mouth and basing your argument on that.
2) "Weird, bizarre request" - what does that mean? Even if I had said I didn't want my photo used anywhere else, what on earth is so weird or bizarre about that? Flickr in fact has settings built in to make it difficult to download users' photos, so this is apparently not an unpopular position. Actually, the entire notion of copyright is based on similar positions - not "weird" or "bizarre" but in fact quite commonplace, whether you agree with it or not.

It's actually pretty simple. I turned down Xah Lee because his site seemed at first glance to be mostly given towards cheesecake/softcore images of the flag. I wasn't sure Elizabeth would appreciate a photo of her wearing a flag bikini (as a joke) and posing with a rifle (also as a joke) being featured in this way.

The (unauthorized) reuse of the image by anonymous parties for the Sarah Palin project, whatever its other pitfalls, doesn't fit the same bill. It's not intended to titillate, and it's in fact considerably closer to the original intention of the moment and photograph thereof - an ironic sendup of a certain slice of American culture that celebrates both guns and superficial flag-waving. (The irony would be instantly apparent to anyone who knows Elizabeth; I would point out as well that up until yesterday, the majority of my photo-blog's readership consisted of such people!)

Elizabeth can post to this space if she feels like it; that's up to her, but don't think she owes you or anybody else an explanation of a photo taken four years ago whose fame comes from being used by somebody else, with nobody's permission, for political purposes.
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Fang Friends says:

This is my sissy! She did more than just walk around in that bikini and pose with a gun, you know.
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Vince & Dede & Natalie & Marina  Pro User  says:

Who's the Schlitz drinkin' cig smokin' camo wearin gentleman in the background. Also, where is this taken? That concrete pool looks like a pond at a catfish farm. Is that what they're "hunting?"
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

My memories of Athens acquaintances generally get hazier by the day, but I remember his name being Adam...maybe?

It is not a concrete pool but an abandoned granite quarry. See adjacent images. (I was very amused by one web comment somewhere that suggested that the "swimming pool" she was standing in front of "looked expensive.")
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

My new favorite theme in the comments against this image is that it somehow proves that conservative women have better bodies than liberals; ie "Who wants to see a feminist in a swimsuit?" Elizabeth, of course, has never voted Republican in her life, and we first became friends after I noticed her in a performance as "The Angry Vagina" in The Vagina Monologues. So, who wants to see a feminist in a swimsuit? 20,000+ internet surfers, apparently!
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judah Freed says:

I'm a firm believer in copyright, so may I have permission to use your "elizabeth - american flag bikini rifle" photo to show the original behind the Sarah Palin fake created with Photoshop that's now circulating widely on the Web and by email?

Thanks
Judah Freed
Examiner.com
www.examiner.com/x-775-Political-Issues-Exami ner
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Judah,

Would prefer you just link back here - I figure the photoshopped version has a life of its own but I'd like to control the spread of the original. Thanks!
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judah Freed says:

Not the same. It's the side-by-side that tells the story. Without that visual impact, there really is no story. Your call. Thanks
-- Judah
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lorenzotattoli says:

If this photo isn't meant to titillate, then what about this one
www.flickr.com/photos/doctorcasino/207685179/ in/set-72157...

maybe one day one of my pictures will be used to bring down a cultural figure so I can call myself an "artist" or "photographer" for a 15 minutes
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jennconspiracy  Pro User  says:

Doctor Casino, I think that it would be great to allow your picture to be printed or shown on Judah's story -- side-by-side is definitely a greater impact and I'm sure that he could still put a link back to Flickr from the web site.

Lorenzo - you got issues dude. Who would you call an "artist" or "photographer"? Are the people who qualify for that people who never take casual, fun/funny pictures of their friends?

Oh - that's right - 'artists' and 'photographers' are the people who edit all their pictures down so it looks like they only take GOOD pictures ALL the time and don't have 8,000 cat pictures up on Flickr like me (too bad I consider myself a photographer and have actually sold my own photos).

Curious - "cultural figure"? Palin qualifies more as a "red herring" than anything else - it's keeping us from talking about what matters, isn't it?
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SherrieGG  Pro User  says:

Dr C:

You said : "...Flickr in fact has settings built in to make it difficult to download users' photos, so this is apparently not an unpopular position."

In point of fact, I just right-clicked on the photo and clicked "save as" and it is sitting on my desktop. Whatever settings Flickr has apparently don't stop anybody from doing anything.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Lorenzo: That one is - obviously - meant solely to show off the craft and skill of this very well-made bathing suit! Jeez, what some poeple will think...

More seriously: If you (or anybody else reading this) recognize no difference between the possible contextual meanings of photos being posted by a close friend, versus a total stranger, then we have very different ideas about, among other things, the possible ways someone might choose to use a photoblog. A charitable reader would assume that, given that these are photos of my friends, I might be bound by subtle, complicated personal standards not easily reducible to ironclad principles that conveniently reveal LIBERAL HYPOCRITES when violated.

I'm not obligated to let Xah Lee, or anybody, use any of my photos, period. My photos ain't much, but they're mine. If it seems to you that I'm inconsistent in my standards that's really not my problem.

(Although, for the record, I actually did have a semi-legitimate motive in the shot linked: trying to get the quality of light under the surface of the water. In the same vein, there are a couple more shots from the same day, not currently online, of random junk at the bottom [tires, old bottles, etc]. The suspicious crop of the image in question was honestly unintentional; I'd hoped to get her face through the surface of the water, but frankly those little point-and-shoot underwater cameras from the drug store aren't really ideal for careful composition. [The reflection on the surface would have probably doomed that anyway.]

As with the rifle photo, though, I figured [correctly] that Elizabeth would find the results hilarious, so there it is.)

One more thing: When did I use this occasion to proclaim myself an "artist"? "Photographer" I've claimed for quite some time, of course, but that strikes me as self-evident: we're looking at photographs that I took, so....

Jenn - thanks for the defense. I would add, though, that even these images of casual social whatnot are subject to pretty rigorous editing, as anyone who's ever gone with me to pick up photos from the drug store knows all too well. ("This is a yes, this is a no, this is a maybe...")
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

SherrieGG: I spoke imprecisely; what I was trying to convey is that Flickr makes it possible for users to set any or all of their photos to be non-downloadable. I haven't historically used this feature, but its existence supports my contention that it's not particularly "bizarre" to turn down requests for use of one's photos.
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benrobertsabq  Pro User  says:

You rock. My own personal amusement at the Palin meme aside, it's nice to see someone acting like a decent, intelligent human being, capable of writing sane and intelligible answers to a fairly mixed set of comments. Kudos.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

benroberts: Aww, thanks Just the good old-fashioned values I learned hanging out at rock quarries in the deep South, shooting cans with BB guns.
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judah Freed says:

For the record, if you do give permission, I naturally will link back to your Flickr page. Unlike others, though, I will not use your photo without permission. Please appreciate that the side-by-side visual comparison is critical for the point I want to make about the abuses of Photoshop and similar tools to make political mischief. Otherwise, I'd just be spouting words, and there's already enough folks doing that.
-- Judah
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Judah - Well, now I'm just plain curious what you're going to do! OK, go ahead, and leave a link here for all the fans. ;)
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judah Freed says:

Cool. Will do!
-- Judah
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judah Freed says:

Please check it out:
www.examiner.com/x-775-Political-Issues-Exami ner

Thanks for the photo use!
-- Judah
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structurefall says:

judah: article's good, but dude- spellcheck! editing! you misspelled "barack" and "nemesis", and put an S on "imageshack"!

THIS IS WHY I IGNORE THOSE DUDES TRYING TO PASS ME FREE COPIES OF THE EXAMINER AT THE BART STATION. okay not really, but still.
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judah Freed says:

Good catch on the typos (now fixed), yet don't blame Examiner for my own haste in wanting to get it posted before I left for a meeting.
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collyer_david says:

I do hope that Doctor Casino's polite, reasonable and intelligent response to the bizarre situation he finds himself in somehow make it into the story that seems set to run for a news cycle or two around this image.

As has been said before, kudos to you sir. Kudos.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Collyer: I'm flattered, but I'd like to hope that some guy explaining the decisions he makes posting photos on his Flickr doesn't quite rate for national coverage. ;) I'm really hoping that the entire wave of Photoshopped Palin images dies down now, at least to the level we associate with any typical public figure in this country. I don't have any real reason to hope for that, but it would be nice.

Her speech last night was not helpful in this regard. To the extent that anything can be done to stem the tide of Photoshops, it would be to define Sarah Palin's policies, so she becomes understood as a politician and candidate and not as some person you've never heard of. After Wednesday, she remains very ill-defined on policy issues, but has added "cheap-shot haranguer" to "hockey mom" in terms of her main qualifications for the job.

Without turning this comments thread into a referendum on Palin, I'd just like to state for the record that I'm insulted on behalf of Barack Obama for Palin's shameless attempt to diminish his record of service, and by extension anybody working to serve her/his own community outside of the electoral process or military service. Organizers, union leaders, petition drivers, volunteers, people working the bake sale for new bleachers at the elementary school: these people are, apparently, nothing compared with being the mayor of a Waffle House. She had "actual responsibilities."

Granted, she was considerably more restrained than Rudy Giuliani, who devoted his speech to attacking a straw-man version of Obama, employing virtually every available trumped-up, baseless smear against the man. If I had an expressly political blog I would do a point-by-point "What Rudy Said" versus "The Facts" type entry...hopefully someone else is doing that.

Off the top of my head, an example - Giuliani tried to work the "Obama voted 'present' 130 times in the Illinois State Legislature." This certainly sounds weasely compared with 'yes' or 'no,' but it just reminds us how inexperienced Rudy is in legislative politics, as opposed to bullying people from the mayoral office. As this Associated Press report notes,

It's true that Obama voted "present" dozens of times, part of the thousands of votes he cast in an eight-year span in Springfield. Illinois lawmakers commonly vote that way on a variety of issues, and he has countered that many of those votes were cast because of technical or legal considerations about the underlying legislation.

Often, Obama voted "present" with large groups of other Democrats to protest what they saw as Republican trickery or abuse of power. Other times, voting that way sends a message that a lawmaker supports a bill's intent, but has concerns about how the legislation is drafted. Voting this way also can be a way to duck a difficult issue, as McCain charged, although that's difficult to prove.

There are also cases where legislators vote "present" as part of a strategy. Obama did this on some abortion measures, voting "present" to encourage some wavering legislators to do the same instead of voting "yes". Their "present" votes had the same effect as "no" votes, so getting them to vote present helped defeat the bills.


"Present" votes are a well-established legislative tactic. It's not weak-willed at all; it represents a person willing to actually read legislation, and principled enough to not play into the tactics of add-on riders. At the national level, such riders are particularly abused to add pork-barrel tags to popular bills, so that someone would look bad voting down the bill.

Instinctively, you know this tactic: "Senator Personman voted AGAINST children being allowed to live past the age of five." How could that possibly be true? Even in your worst fears about Personman or his party, are they really trying to murder all children? Well, no - it inevitably turns out that he voted against the bill (or voted "present") because he was waiting for a version to come along that didn't include, let's say, $500,000 for transit in Wassila, Alaska. Or $1 million for a redundant emergency contact center in Wassila, Alaska. Or $450,000 for an agricultural processing facility in...Wassila, Alaska. "Wasilla received $11.9 million in earmarks from 2000 to 2003. The results of this spending are very apparent today. "

McCain, as a Senator, kept Palin on a pork-barrel watch list because of all this. He knows the legislative process and he knows all about how this works. He has to be aware of what Obama's "present" votes might mean. To allow attacks on them to go forward in this manner is deeply irresponsible.

So all in all a very nasty night for the GOP. The laugh lines played to their crowd (except when Rudy fumbled them) but it struck me as all in bad taste and in bad faith; the American voter can be trusted to make up their mind with the truth - the whole truth.

In a perfect world, we'd hope that inconsistent arguments and factually untrue statements would be immediately called out by an attentive press with obligations to the truth. I have slim hope of that happening; already the narrative surrounding Palin's underwhelming, awkward and tendentious speech is that it was "better than expected," which means "awesome." Great.
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judah Freed says:

Alaskan housewife Anne Kilkenny is another person who's become the center of attention due to public interest in Sarah Palin. Here's her story:
www.examiner.com/x-775-Political-Issues-Exami ner~y2008m9d...
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Brash Lion  Pro User  says:

Dr.C - I'm really impressed with your unwavering conviction surrounding the protection of your work and your friend. Good on ya!
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Innocuous Fun says:

At the risk of public humiliation, I'm coming forward.

I was the brazen Photoshopper that doctored the image. I created the image this past Saturday and posted it to my Facebook blog. From there, it apparently took off like wildfire, morphing into this bizarre internet meme.

I had no intention of spreading any rumors or having the photo come off as authentic. In fact, at the bottom of the image, I fully disclosed that this was the consequence of being bored as sin on a Saturday afternoon with Photoshop at my fingertips.

I don't harbor any crazy liberal agenda. Just a twisted sense of humor.

I still have the .psd sitting on my desktop.

Doctor Casino - If you want to see the original blog post, I'd be more than happy to share it with you.

To be honest, I didn't think ANYONE would see this photo except my friends. Imagine my surprise when my brother calls me at 3am to let me know the photo made it to Huffington Post, Examiner and Snopes.

I'm just a recently laid-off soul with way too much time on her hands.
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dylanandelisa  Pro User  says:

who is the guy smoking in the background? Is he famous now?
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matt cohen  Pro User  says:

This was very interesting! Go Doc Casino.
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gwano93 says:

your face isnt like sarah palin's. everything else is exactly the same as the sarah palin picture
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squidpants  Pro User  says:

Whoa Dr. C, well put there! And kudos on the cool original photo, even if it was photoshopped and sent all over the place.
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goofiuss says:

"I'm just a recently laid-off soul with way too much time on her hands"

and good photoshop skills.
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karmatics says:

here are the two morphing into one another: karmatics.com/palin/
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rbleib  Pro User  says:

Doctor Casino: I admire your thoughtful, eloquent commentary at least as much as your evident -- and very clever -- photo skills. And as a labor organizer (and occasional shutterbug) I appreciate your impassioned defense of those of us who work to strengthen our communities through grassroots mobilization. Sarah Palin's callow jeers on Wednesday night reflected, for me, the sense of entitlement so common among the wealthy and privileged. They demonstrated how completely out of touch she and Senator McCain are with the lives of ordinary Americans.
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bORjAmATiC  Pro User  says:

Civility prevails. Cool snaps there, DC. And nice work, too, IF.
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MYSSK75  Pro User  says:

Thanks for your commentary on the subject. I've urged people to stick to the issues and not make this about Palin's sex or parental status. The issues are scary enough, in my opinion, without using sexist tropes.

I am relieved that you, the original photographer, did not create the meme.
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HMSredGecko [deleted] says:

www.cafepress.com/against_palin

Just leaving a link to show how these images, both of the Palin headshot, and elizabeth body, are being used. I love the image for its humor, but not the way it is employed here. I don't know about copyright issues, but it seems if people are using your image, then you should be credited. Any word on the creator of the shop?

Congratulations on hitting the cultural zeitgeist lottery, famous on teh Interwebs!
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

HMSredGecko - thanks very much for the tip. I just spoke with the owner of womenagainstsarahpalin.org and she politely agreed to "take it down." I sympathize with the opposition to Palin, particularly the observation that it's insulting to suggest that one woman politician is as good as another...however, I draw the line at unauthorized money-making off of my photography, regardless of where the money is supposed to be going.
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deonte4242 says:

Okay Look at the left shoulder of this picture! also there are some other things that are strange, does this photo take place at the residency? Who is the supposed photo shopped girl. Is there a tatto or mark on sarah palin where the imae has been obviously distorted. There is reverse photo shopping which could be happening in order to protect her. Investigate this! after all it is strange that her children are in numerous photos with alcohol and guns which is a problem in itself.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Oh, for Pete's sake, you've got to be kidding me. I took this photo in 2004 and uploaded it to Flickr in 2006! The "supposed photo shopped girl" is my friend Elizabeth, and this weekend I will upload some more pictures from this same day to make it clear to any remaining doubters. I dislike Sarah Palin tremendously but there is no need to muddy the waters of truth here.
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dakiwiboid  Pro User  says:

I appreciate your calm and reasoned responses to some often provocative messages. Thank you for keeping this original photo available to us!
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inner_castle says:

Hi, can you please grant me a permission to put the original photo on my website? Just wanted to show what photoshop can do because it looked so real. Thanks.

chikademanila.blogspot.com
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koka_sexton  Pro User  says:

So funny, this was posted on a local blog mayorofconcord.com/ and a reader identified it as a fake with a link back here. Cheers and thanks for giving me something to laugh at!!
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brianisinyou says:

Just thought I'd let you know that snopes is using your photo with no attribution whatsoever.

www.snopes.com/photos/politics/palin.asp
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Jewbacchus  Pro User  says:

Just a brief word of appreciation for you stating your views eloquently and strongly, and leaving the picture up.
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illicitstupidity says:

Dr. Casino,

Congrats on your new-found internet fame! I am going to add another request to the list of "Can I have permissions". There is an academic journal which is doing an issue on the "media treatment of Sarah Palin" and they're interested in my doing a piece on the movement of the Photoshopped image of Elizabeth, but as part of this, they'd like me to include both the original and the Photoshop. I can send you the official call for papers if you'd like. Cheers!
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

inner_castle - I note with some surprise that you have already used the image at your page without permission. Please take it down. A link here is fine.

Illicit - I'm intrigued; send the CFP via FlickrMail if you don't mind.
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IPv6Freely_ says:

The true definition of 'hick'
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budderflyman  Pro User  says:

Doctor, I posted the fake photo on my Photostream and referenced this page of yours for the original. I hope you don't mind. I took the fake one from the Huffington Post which apparently does not block uploading of their images.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

budderflyman - Seems fine - thanks.
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budderflyman  Pro User  says:

Thanks, Doctor.
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msspurlock says:

With all of your Photoshop involvement, you're saying you weren't behind this?

www.photoshopvids.net/tag/photoshop_reproduce
www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-old/2004/01/
www.ummagurau.com/art/russia/

It's not at all convincing work, so I believe you, but it's quite a coincidence.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Note, the first link doesn't seem to have anything to do with me at all, so I'm not sure what you were driving at; the latter two do have to do with the efforts of myself and several others, back in the year 2000, to work with turn-of-the-century Russian photo archives provided to the public by the Library of Congress.

Is it actually "quite a coincidence"? You're basically saying that if I've used Photoshop to do anything else, ever, it amounts to some kind of proof that I'm involved in this. How many copies of PS are out there? The Prokudin-Gorskii stuff is from eight years ago for crying out loud. Of course, I've used PS since then - I'm an avid photographer enrolled in a design program, after all - but it's not exactly the airtight chain of damning evidence you seem to be perceiving.
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dr.Ozda  Pro User  says:

The important thing in all of this, and it may have been covered because I mean who has time to read all of this, but the important thing is, When Sarah is raptured, will Elizabeth be ready to step up as VP?
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Donnie_Darko_88 says:

You've handled this situation eloquently Doctor Casino.
Elizabeth is pretty & it's nice that she has a sense of humor about this situation.
Thanks for leaving the pic posted, I think it's cool!
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photobotanic says:

Dr Casino - Hope you are using your new found fame to your advantage. I see you have embedded some xmp data into your alt tag but should do more to protect your copyright. I browsed your image at your location
farm1.static.flickr.com/68/208036176_05fcaef8 6c.jpg?v=0
and brought it into Jeffrey's exif viewer
www.regex.info/exif.cgi
to see no info.

I suggest you quickly embed more info into your file

good luck - Saxon Holt
Stock Artists Alliance
www.stockartistsalliance.org/
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hpanovska says:

oh my goodness, you weren't kidding addison. this thing has gone haywire. let me know if you need some legal advice...
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markparsec says:

Doctor Casino, My name is Mark Parsec and I wrote an article on September 3rd, at SearchWarp about the "Palin Bikini Photo" in which I linked to your site. I never imagined the amount of attention this subject was going to generate. You may visit the article at: searchwarp.com/swa369770.htm and if you would like me to shut it down just let me know.

Mark Parsec
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Ms Risch says:

Is that a BB gun or a Pellet gun you are holding? Just wondering.

Good Luck to you,
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faithmouse says:

Why did you photoshop your head onto Sarah Palin's body?
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Oh, Laceypaws...
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foto_werk says:

the most incredible thing is that at least one CNN anchor didn't realize it was a doctored photo and was discussing it like it was real.....and made reference to the assault rifle she was holding! Assault rifle in the battle against starlings! What boneheads!
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shark92651  Pro User  says:

Is that an air rifle or a .22? It certainly isn't an "AK-47" like the clueless reporter from CNN reported it.
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foto_werk says:

it looks like an air rifle with a top feed......a Crosman I think.....
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wrcfanintx says:

Compare the photos, it may be a Crosman 664SB:

www.crosman.com/site/listing/1067

You'll shoot your eye out!
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wwodanny says:

I would love to have the model in the photograph as a guest on my crummy little local podcast. Please contact me if interested:

dannydoesduluth@live.com
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rockymountainadam  Pro User  says:

yikes... your image is on the front page of foxnews.com today.
here's a screenshot in case you miss it.
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amishius says:

Imagine my shock in finding that the guy whose recording of "Where There's a Whip, There's a Way" inspired...dozens...is the original photog of the now infamous Sarah Palin shot.

I read "Doctor Casino" and nearly passed out!
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jack_tar69 says:

What a bunch of left wing kooks. I guess everyone would be happy if I photoshopped Barack's head on the body of a jackass...(mmm..donkey)...
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Racist tangents, whether or not they mention Photoshop, are not on-topic. Deleted.
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the_wolf_brigade  Pro User  says:

As someone from Australia who has a very limited understanding of my own countries politics, and even less understanding of US politics, it has been interesting reading your responses to the random selection of comments.

I've never been privilege to the process of how a photoshopped image becomes viral, so I'd also like to thank you for leaving the original up.

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Seen on jmg-galleries.com (?)
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Stew Stryker  Pro User  says:

Dr C.,

I totally agree with benrobertsabq's comment. You rock.

Your patience here from boobs (dolts, not breasts) is exceptional. Great explanations. You give New Englander like me reason to wonder if our conception of Southerners might be mistaken! ;-)
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salguodbocaj  Pro User  says:

FYI you may want to aware of this discussion:
blog.chasejarvis.com/blog/2008/09/sarah-palin -photoshop-p.... He does not even link to this photo but refers to the photoshopped one.

If you've seen it already, please disregard.

RE: comments on this photo, interesting reading.
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bluesalt1 says:

The photoshopped version is being sold in magnet form on ebay by some guy in Canada.

cgi.ebay.com/Sarah-Palin-VP-Beauty-Queen-Biki ni-NRA-Funny...

If you jump through enough hoops you can get him suspended or at least warned.

pages.ebay.com/help/tp/vero-rights-owner.html

This is sour grapes on my part because I wanted to make a T-shirt of it.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Thanks to everybody who's been pointing these things out. Ugh... I really may end up calling up some legal help on this thing, the sales are getting way out of hand and I just don't have hours in the day to fill out forms and email people about each individual case...
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williambilliams says:

Here's another article about your photo and the alterations.
www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049, 24299301-501...

Just n case you're getting a lawyer and stuff.
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fetching  Pro User  says:

i prefer your original image to the photoshopped one. :)

and yeah, it's bullshit people are making money off your image.
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r3son8tr says:

I'm amazed that Innocuous Fun posted this on Facebook, thinking that no one would see it. "To be honest, I didn't think ANYONE would see this photo except my friends." Wow, that's really naive in this day and age. Aside from being a really asinine thing to do, it really illustrates - no pun intended - the danger of putting your image on a web page. Any idiot can photoshop it just for laughs, and other idiots will think it's the truth. Because photos don't lie, do they?

So far, Elizabeth is lucky that this is relatively harmless for her (how many people can identify her from her body?) but where is her head now?:-o Someone could have photoshopped it onto some other body. One day she goes looking for a job, and her "image" appears in a search in some less-than-ideal setting.

Doctor C, if I were you, i would take her image off of here now. Although it's probably too late.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

r3son8tr, I appreciate the concern, but as far as that goes the damage is done, and I do think there is some civic value in providing continuing proof that the 'shop is not Palin. I'm leaving it up to Elizabeth.
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csimpkins  Pro User  says:

The photoshop is so famous now that Tina Fay (as Sarah Palin) pulled the pose in the opening skit of SNL tonight:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nMuR1TFq1s
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Saw it, thanks! Tina Fey is on-the-money enough as Palin that I kind of forgot the headache of the whole thing. "I can see Russia from my house!" And of course:

"So please, stop photoshopping my head on sexy bikini pictures!"

The only letdown is that there was no reference to Palin's "Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America [...] the voters will shatter that glass ceiling once and for all" comment, which still makes no sense to me - is Palin planning to personally bump off McCain after the inaugural? Seems like it would have been ripe for some kind of exchange between her and Amy Poehler...
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mkfreeberg says:

It seems you're living in a completely different world in a number of places so I won't try to explain Palin's comment to you...and the lawyer thing is *really* out there. But congratulations on the new found fame, and super-congrats on the SNL thing.

Yet *another* article attempts to set the record straight, but says the picture was taken "poolside":

elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/05/top-7-myths- lies-and-unt...
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

mkfreeberg: Thanks for the link. This is notthe first time Fox News has been too concerned with defending Palin to get the facts straight. What makes my Flickr blog so awesome is that you get my partisan heckling of Palin with facts!

Speaking as a feminist, a political nerd, and a logic/grammar pedant... the "glass ceiling" remark is nonsense on its face, so I'm not sure what there is to explain, but I will try to address it as painstakingly as I can. Here is the larger context of the statement (from her first public appearance with McCain, when she was revealed as the VP nom):

I think as well today of two other women, who came before me in national elections. I can't begin this great effort without honoring the achievements of Geraldine Ferraro in 1984, and of course, Senator Hillary Clinton who showed such determination and grace in her presidential campaign. It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left eighteen million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America...but, it turns out, the women of America aren't finished yet and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all. (my transcription, from video)

Shattering the "highest, hardest glass ceiling in America," the one in which Hillary left "eighteen million cracks" - hmmmmm, what could that mean? When Hillary used the phrase it was fairly apparent that she meant the office of the Presidency. Certainly, most people would say the Presidency is "higher" than the vice presidency.

1) Palin doesn't understand what a glass ceiling is, or what the word "highest" implies in this situation. Neither of these seems particularly likely in a woman of her rich, deep experience, so let's just rule those out.

2) Palin recognizes that the "highest, hardest glass ceiling" refers to the office of the Presidency, but believes that being elected Vice President amounts to the same thing. This may have to do with her stated confusion as to what it is that the V.P. actually does. Another way to resolve this doublethink is by way of the Constitutional order of succession. This reading suggests that Palin intends to shoot, poison, garrote, or otherwise murder John McCain sometime during his prospective term, thus becoming President and shattering the "highest, hardest glass ceiling," albeit in a roundabout way that probably would not serve as a viable inspiration working women struggling with similar barriers. I think we can go ahead and say that this is an unlikely scenario, which I bring up on rhetorical grounds.

3) Palin considers the glass ceiling to simply be the barrier keeping women from being in the White House at all. Either a female President or a female Vice President would qualify as shattering the "highest" glass ceiling. This makes some sense re "hardest," but rather strains the definition of "highest." If we unpack it further, it suggests that no female President would ever be necessary in order to shatter the highest glass ceiling. Women could be vice presidents in the next fifty administrations and this definition would still be satisfied. This would amount to a de facto glass ceiling between President and Vice President, which is in fact the exact way glass ceilings are understood in most workplaces - you can work in this division on this kind of stuff, but you can't advance beyond position X.

Palin invokes Hillary's remark, and by extension Hillary's supporters. Are any of these three things what the Clinton campaign had in mind? Setting aside the implication that a woman in the White House, regardless of her politics, would be in and of itself a benefit to all women - I think it's fairly clear that a female Vice President, from either party, would not qualify as shattering the "highest" glass ceiling. It would not have counted for Geraldine Ferraro twenty-four years ago (the actual "historic" nomination in this category, if anyone's keeping track) and it will not count should McCain/Palin take it in November.

That's not to diminish what significance this pick does have - it just irks me when people make these lazy public statements that play fast and loose with facts, logic, and the meanings of words in order to get a big applause line.
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Doctor Casino  Pro User  says:

Oh, and as for "the lawyer thing," what exactly would you do if a photo you took of your friend was being sold on T-shirts, coffee mugs, fridge magnets, et cetera? You wouldn't be at all weirded out? Wouldn't want the people to stop?
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