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Orthodox church by decafinata.
Standing in Pristina, Kosovo. 

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arodasi  Pro User  says:

great capture! i love this color....

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VirtualSanity  Pro User  says:

It's very dreamy
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Kieran Lynam  Pro User  says:

Wow, amazing capture. Very dreamy, indeed...
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Jennifer Esperanza {Mahita}  Pro User  says:

≈ moody & wonderful ≈
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Corbeira says:

interesting effect!

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Like it's floating in a cloud.
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E|...|  Pro User  says:

questa è ufficialmente la mia preferita di oggi!!!
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i am drexel  Pro User  says:

Oh my goodness that's wonderful!!!! <333
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*atrium09  Pro User  says:

Amazing atmosphere. great shot.....
I saw this in the 10+ Faves group and Faved it.
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Philippe Sainte-Laudy  Pro User  says:

Gorgeous! Faved !
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

Thank you so much everybody for all your kind comments and faves. It really is appreciated.
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Nominated


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Nominated


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Amazing!!! Stunning view and great capture!
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shashamane  Pro User  says:

So atmospheric!

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You are invited to post this picture in Top of the fog (> 20 faves) group

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Evy'l / Evelyn says:

That fog look so scary, great shot!!

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Ojisanjake says:

Excellent moody shot.
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Fascinating shot!
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Pete W  Pro User  says:

Very ethereal looking, great capture with tonnes of atmosphere...

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.Monika.  Pro User  says:

very Friedrich like
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

Thank you, Mkeska – Friedrich is one of my favourite painters.
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James Rye  Pro User  says:

Lovely mystic shot, so appropriate for the subject.
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:)(: says:

All those “democrats” that formed their banana republics on the territory of former Yugoslavia have somehow ended up with entirely ethnically pure states (Bosnian Muslims have tried to do the same with their “minority” Serbs, but failed).
Meanwhile, the so called“genocidal” Serbs are the only ones who have preserved ethnic, cultural and religious diversity and have the most multicultural and multi-ethnic country on the entire Balkan Peninsula. And the only one with over 1.5 million refugees from all the regions of former Yugoslavia, of all ethnicities and faiths.
Go figure!
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

I don't think flickr is an ideal place for political discussion. However, some facts might be useful here. I've figured:

82,86 per cent of the people living in Serbia are Serbs, according to the Statistical Office of the Republic of Serbia. That leaves 17,14 per cent to other ethnicities.

64,18 per cent of the people living in Macedonia are Macedonians. That leaves 35,82 per cent to other ethnicities.

43,16 per cent of the people living in Montenegro are Montegrins. That leaves 56,84 per cent to other ethnicities.

83 per cent of the people living in Slovenia are Slovenians. That leaves 17 per cent to other ethnicities.

48 per cent of the people living in Bosnia see themselves as Bosniaks. That leaves 52 per cent to other ethnicities.

89,63 per cent of the people living in Croatia are Croats. That leaves 10,37 per cent to other ethnicities.

Conclusion: Serbia is on par with Slovenia when it comes to ethnic diversity.

The web site of the Serbian government says «the number of refugees and internally displaced persons have varied from 350,000 to 800,000.»
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Flemming Gade  Pro User  says:

I agree, Flickr is not as such, a forum for political discussions.
An image can have a political message, - and it that case we can discuss whether the image actually deliver the message.

I do not see this image as political in any way, - but as a wonderful moody image of a church! It's well composed, and the mist add a mystical atmosphere to it. It's great!
Well done!

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:)(: says:

Actually this one and so many other photos relating to subject of Kosovo have a political connotation, and as such must be confronted.

Decafinata, Kosovo has been raped over and over again by militant and separatist Albanians who are eagerly stretching into territories that are for centuries Serbian sacral land!

For centuries monasteries and churches over there have been wishfully covered in foggy mists, blurry presentations.
Worlds heritage - ancient monasteries built by Serbians dating back to middle ages have been destroyed or made into Mosques!!!!!

Has anyone ever seen Christian church build over Mosque!

That’s rape of tradition, culture, spiritual being of one nation by other…Are we supposed to just shut out mouth seeing injustice revile?

It’s amusing how you misinterpreted those statistics…it so ignorant…and for the sake of justice and honour you should not be lying yourself and others that don’ have time or interest to dig deeper into this subject.
And by the way, I don’t want to go deep into statistics, but it would become a real long and boring political debate.
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Reinar  Pro User  says:

Wonderfurl image! And certainly an interesting and weighty discussion. Here to the power of an image.
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

Your first entry didn't comment on my picture. You said that Serbia was «the most multicultural and multi-ethnic country on the entire Balkan Peninsula». I wanted to find out more on the subject, and those are the numbers I found. You say I have «misinterpreted» them, but you don't say how. You call me «ignorant», but you don't say why. You accuse me of «lying», but you don't correct me by bringing the truth. What are the correct numbers? I would be glad to know.

If you want to read a political connotation into the picture, that's ok, but to me, it's simply a beautiful motive. I don't really understand why it «must be confronted». It's a picture of a Serbian Orthodox church standing in Kosovo. What better way to show that the Serbs have a right to be in Kosovo – which they have. I hope for a Kosovo where Serbs and Albanians live peacefully together.

It's true what you say that the Albanians have done horrible things to Serbian houses, churches and monasteries, and I hope nothing have happened to the church in this picture.

Yes, I have seen Christian churches built over mosques, in Cordoba (the Cathedral inside the Mezquita), Granada (Iglesia de San Juan de los Reyes is built over the Mosque of La Alcazaba, and Iglesia del Salvador is built over the Great Mosque) and Sevilla (Iglesia de Santa Catalina, Iglesia del Salvador, Iglesia de San Marcos, Iglesia de Omnium Sanctorum and the Cathedral of Sevilla are all built over former mosques).
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:)(: says:

Decafinata, wasn't my intention to insult you, but when someone gives me vague answer that shows of with few numbers from such -and -such source that is claiming to have real statistic data, then I (if I have time) ask, where is that information collected so I can see for my self those numbers...

I want to explain why I mentioned your ignorance...to understand those statistics you have to know land, culture, history and habits of people who live there...Your data is saying that 82, 82% of population in Serbia are Serbians, and only 17, 14 are from other nationalities…and that’s shockingly strange, because, if you have lived there as I have, you would be stunned by these numbers too.
Those referendums have always been messy, especially because until 16 years ago people were declaring them selves as Yugoslavs, not really knowing what a difference to some people it was to be separated as Muslims, Serbians, Croats….and that’s the misery of EX Yugoslavia…while the whole Europe is uniting, Balkans are separating on a verge of religious, narco mafia, political, economical explosion which all erupted initiated by forces much greater than any of us can comprehend. When you find the reason who is supporting this conflicts and giving away someone else’s country to others, separating families (that are so blood mixed that they can’t possibly know what nationality they are 100%) and leaving Albanian narco mafia to lead Albanians to territories with such great material potential- than you are going to start finding out more and more.
But in all that mess one nation - more that any other- has been up and ready to live in ignorance of it’s own nationality for the sake of peaceful life in unity. Those were Serbians…that’s why you can see so many mixed marriages in Serbia and so few in other ex Yugoslavian republics (exclude Macedonia, they have too many problems of there own since they were so hasty to catch the separation virus , that they regret so much, but can’t go back) - …oh, I don’t want to loose the line…while we are talking about Macedonia, statistics say 64.18 % in Macedonia are Macedonians and huge 35.82% are other nationalities…Actually the number is that huge , guess why - Albanians are making a similar mess in Macedonia as on Kosovo (but it’s going to be worse, as soon as the Kosovo story unravels, unless someone stopes Albanians).

You red that No. of refugees in Serbia have varied from 300 000 – 800 000(is that a small number????(does it sound more in $$$$ that in is human lives)…Was it explained when this No. varied from when to when, when were fluctuations of this No…? That information is not enough.

Statistics from 5th Jan 2007 say that in Serbia lives 110 000 refugees…that’s NOW…but If we know that since 12 years ago number of refuges that fled from 35% of it’s general ethnic territory was 2 000 000 ( 2 MILLION PEOPLE), that only from Croatia where ( 750.000)- now there are only 70.000(mostly old people who came back to die on there land after living in refugee camps in Serbia for 5-6 years(more-less when EU made an ultimatum to Croatia to fulfil those requirements if they want to be excepted in the EU), you have to bare in mind how many people after a while have been granted visas in other countries of the World…so subtract big number…of those refugees, that came , stayed, lived for some time in great poverty (Serbia was under sanctions!!!) and live now in Canada, Australia, America…

Then there is statistic from October 2006 that said that in Serbia lived 1.145.667 refugees...then from end of May 1991 to July ’95 the Number of registered refugees dropped to 451 124, and from August till late dec’95 the number was 354.498…the reason was among others also a change in birocratic status of the refugees when they were actually getting Serbian passports, and being officially citizens of one new country and not the former republic they used to live in. Also then there was Bosnia… towards the end of October 1991, Croatia began an organized elimination of the Serbs in the districts of Grubisno Polje, Moslavina, and Slavonska Pozega. Hundreds of Serbian families fled to Bosnia, on the road to Banja Luka, leaving their villages, homes and all other possessions in Croatia, never to return. Bosnia was only a temporary refuge for them. The same columns of people headed towards Serbia when the war began in Bosnia.

As the wave of refugees(nonalbanians) from Kosovo and Metohia after NATO bombing , when 320 000 Serbs, Montenigrienas, Muslims, Gypsies, Egyptians….rushed into Serbian centre…the number of refugees again changed. and Serbia was troubled with another sad story of poverty and desperate struggle to provide jobs, place to live…After NATO bombing the number of refugees raise to 1.150.000…and than gradually stepped in to number 800 000…(same stats as in 1997)…
I don’t know if this is going to fit…I am trying to explain…you see is not easy…number is always changing...
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:)(: says:

And, sorry, you counted Catholic churches...when I asked have you ever seen a Christian church built over a Mosque...I meant Orthodox church...my mistake.
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

Hi :)(:

It's ok, I was not insulted. It's nothing personal here :-)

I should have given you the sources for my statistics. They are all from Wikipedia, except for the refugee numbers that I got from the Serbian government's page:

www.arhiva.serbia.sr.gov.yu/cms/view.php?id=1 017

If you go to the «Facts» section of the same website, you will see that the Serbian government also estimates the number of Serbs to be 82,86 per cent of the population:

www.arhiva.serbia.sr.gov.yu/cms/view.php?id=1 015

I agree with you that it's the misery of former Yugoslavia that people stopped seeing themselves as Yugoslavs. Many wanted to continue with that, especially those of mixed heritage.

The question of refugees is, as your numbers make clear, a very complex one. I only know what the Serbian government says, and that's why I reacted to your first entry.
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:)(: says:

Decafinata, I applaud you...people like you are rare, even if we have different opinions, I admire individuals who are willing to dig deeper into subjects that are influencing other peoples lives.
That’s a good quality, because in today’s world “small” people need to be informed or else we will be moved around and around with out any approval or notion why, by who ore even where.
Cheers!
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Steiner62 (An Animal & his Anima)  Pro User  says:

Minimalist splendour...
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Steiner62 (An Animal & his Anima)  Pro User  says:

"...so called“genocidal” Serbs."
I calike to call a spade a spade. SOME Serbs - Radovan, Ratko, Arkan, & thier ilk can be accurately described as genocidal bastards, imho, as a neutral observer...sure there were plenty of Croats too at it, & a lesser number of Bosnians, but then they wer the ones most sinned against, by any objective analysis...as for Kosovo...get ovewr it for God's sake...you lost a battle there in the 14th century, big deal, if we Irish adopted this retrospective Martyrdom Complex, Nothern Ireland would still be drenched in blood, just get over it!
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audreyjm529  Pro User  says:

So beautiful!
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beautiful misty blues
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

Thank you so much for all your attention and the invitations, Radonić. It's appreciated :-) However, since I'm a non-pro member, I can't upload it to more than ten groups at once …
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Clayd Liverpool LFC  Pro User  says:

why do you call it "Standing in Pristina, Kosovo. "
as far as i know there is no danger of it to fall is there?
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karolina michalowska says:

wow.

stunning
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Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Envy of Flickr! Invited (and Envied) Images Only, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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algo  Pro User  says:

Full of mystery -- appearing out of the mists.
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mark.os says:

fantastic atmosphere!

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Imapix  Pro User  says:

WooooooooooooWhat a shot!

You must be proud of it!
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Amazing shot.
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silen†ium says:

great picture!!
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ChrisAC  Pro User  says:

Gratulerer! Bildet ditt er på Boing Boing.
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Form<->Function says:

Ethereal is the only word that I can think of that covers it.

It looks like a beautiful old church. Would be nice to see in person.
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infomaniac says:

Hope you don't mind!
Your picture has been added! :–)

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Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Dark Days, and we'd love to have your photo added to the group.
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

Chris – takk for at du sa fra. Det er jo virkelig moro!
Form – big thanks! Hope you get to see it one day.
infomaniac – please, it's an honour.
Guav – thanks for the invitation. What a great group.
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Wow. Awesome shot.

(seen linked at boingboing)
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Hope it lasts.
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beautiful pictures!
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Glad you like the group. Add to it whenever you like :)
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isihija says:

It's the most beautifull and yet saddest part of Serbia.

Nice capture.
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fusion-of-horizons  Pro User  says:

beautiful!
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InterstellarSky says:

The beauty of mystery and the symbolism behind it!
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decafinata  Pro User  says:

Thank you, InterstellarSky. Finally I have 100 faves :-)
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Fjola Dogg  Pro User  says:

Just stunning.

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101 :-)
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Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Orthodox Church Architecture, and we'd love to have this added to the group!
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