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Moon Rise behind the San Gorgonio Pass Wind Farm

Moon Rise behind the San Gorgonio Pass Wind Farm by Caveman / Grinch.
The wind was blowing pretty hard today putting all kinds of dust and other stuff in the air. At dusk I decided it was time to head home and as I was driving down Snow Creek Road I noticed the moon rising behind the wind turbines.

Each of these units is a horizontal-axis wind turbine (HAWT). They are called horizontal-axis because the main rotor shaft is horizontal. The blades are attached to an electrical generator at the top of a tower and they must be pointed into the wind. The units have a gearbox so the generators can turn at a speed higher than the relatively slow blade rotation speed.

The blades are about 150 feet (46 meters) long and the towers are about 300 feet (91 meters) tall. That makes them really huge and really expensive to transport and assemble in the field. Many of the wind turbines are smaller than these units.

Coolness factor aside, the wind turbines are a scam. The turbine owners make money because of guaranteed government subsidies and tax credits (i.e., paid for you and me). Most of us have a surcharge on our electric bills to pay for "green" energy. A megawatt of wind-generated electricity costs about 11 or 12 times as much to produce as a megawatt of coal- or oil-generated electricity.

The government subsidies are more vital to the wind industry than the wind is. Without the subsidies, wind cannot compete against coal and oil. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (July 9, 2008) pointed out that, "In 1999, 2001 and 2003, when Congress temporarily killed the credits, the number of new turbines dropped dramatically." When the subsidies stop, the turbines are more or less abandoned until the subsidies resume.

On top of everything else, wind turbines generate their energy at the wrong times. A quick weather lesson . . . High pressure weather systems bring cold winters and hot summers and low wind levels. Low pressure weather systems bring warmer winters and cooler summers and lots of wind. These meteorological realities mean that wind makes its biggest contribution when demand is lowest and its smallest contribution when demand is highest.

Wind was a great source of power in the Middle Ages. But we have far better technology now. If the government did not force wind power on us, we wouldn't have it. It's just not practical.

Sorry about the rant.

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Update 1: This photo was used to accompany an article by Matthew McDermott (New York, New York) on January 27, 2009: Double US Renewable Energy Generation Within Three Years: President Obama

Update 2: This photo was used to accompany an article by Paul Ryan, Newcastle wins $20 million Clean Energy Innovation Centre, on February 20, 2009.

Update 3: This photo was used to accompany an article, Careers, on the Land Agent Services LLC website on March 10, 2009.

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Cygnus~X1 - Visions by Sorenson  Pro User  says:

Beautiful capture! Amazing how lit up the near sides of the turbines are.

These are going up all over around us right now. Strangely, I live near Biotown (holding back a snicker or two), USA...and they haven't built any right around it. Then again, I think all the hot air blowing out of Biotown is enough to solve the world's energy problems.

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That is a truly excellent shot.
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john4kc  Pro User  says:

That photo blows my straight moon shot away. There's only a few items but so much to look at.
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great shot
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Absolutely totally awesome shot!
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Brilliant.
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Jeff Cushner  Pro User  says:

Great Shot! Wonderful Contrast!
I was thinking if you had the sun rising or setting instead of the moon, what a commercial for alternative power!
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Fionn Luk  Pro User  says:

Wow that is a huge moon! Wonderful.
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a very nice picture !!!
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Cygnus~X1 — If hot air was a power source, they'd need these wind turbines in Washington, DC.

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Jeff Cushner, NovaMan396 — Thanks. Maybe we could try lunar cells instead of solar cells?
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preciosa foto!
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this's awesome...awesomely beautiful....great!!!!!!!


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Brilliant capture! Love the colours and composition

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awesome capture, we have lots of these wind turbines here in Texas


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unlimited inspirations — Thank you.

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Nice! The robots are attacking the world.
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Jackal of all trades  Pro User  says:

Nice shot. The colors really jump off the screen, and the moon just looks lovely. I agree with others that it is the lighting on the turbines themselves that really set this image apart. Wonderful.

BTW, how much do you think Oil companies are being subsidized, and then add in all the economic externality, like the cost of a mountain destroyed by mountain top removal mining, or even the true cost of the oil we have burnt with no thought of the future. Then maybe wind isn't so bad.

But I digress. Still a cool photo. :-)
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Geniooooo...........
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Freddy & Daphne — They're awfully skinny robots!

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Ron's Log — Thanks. I don't know how I missed that—I often look through the Palm Springs Area group.

Serious Dr — Thank you. Right now it only has 156 views and 15 favorites.
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Stark vision of the future. Pretty Ugly! Well done.
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Ingleman — Thanks. I always liked the phrase "pretty ugly"—it contradicts itself. I use it all the time though.
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Nice catch !!

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Cool shot.
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very nice
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Oh, wow, I missed this one. Really wonderful shot, Chuck!
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southerncal88 — Thank you.

jijen — Thanks. This was three or four weeks ago when we were having Santa Ana Winds.
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F.Lee42 says:

what a fantastic shot love the colour and the moon
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ekheffer  Pro User  says:

Amazing shot!!! Probably one of my all time favorites!!! I am obssessed with the windmills, mountains in the desert and you catured the perfect picture, including the moon!!! Great job!!!
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ekheffer — Thank you.
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Chuck....Love this photo so much. Thanks,
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DesertSmile — Thank you, Barbara.
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That's a damn good shot
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Awesome.. great shot!
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Yahoo! Answers Editorial — I'm not exactly what that means, but thank you. If you could let me know where the photo was used that would be great!
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...Damian...  Pro User  says:

Yeah man, never heard it said better. Still, they make for some good photography.....
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...Damian... — Thanks.
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Hi,

Just wanted to drop you a note and let you know that your photo has been used in a travel article on Matador Network. A link back to your photostream & a photo credit has been included.

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Matthew Stewart | Photographer  Pro User  says:

Freaking wow man! This shot rocks!
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tatman blue says:

thnx for the info with that. wow :)
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DesertSmile  Pro User  says:

Being a resident of the area I truly love and appreciate this photo. Driving west on I-10 leaving Palm Springs I am always greeted by, what I think, are the wonderful windmills.
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tino.valen2009 says:

awesome picture !
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arcataberry  Pro User  says:

Beautiful. And to think Sen. Ted Kennedy didn't want wind turbines to interrupt his view from his house in Hyannisport. A man of the people, indeed.
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aaronlang says:

Beautiful shot! Love it! Although I do have a different perspective on wind power than you. Anyway, I would like to express our appreciation for your putting your photo up with a Creative Commons license, enabling us to place it at our site to show English language students along with a bit of text. Your photo was part of our topic of the week page and we are writing now to say thanks. Yes, that was a some weeks ago that we put it up. Still, better late than never.... The photo is up at aaronlanguage.com/weekly_English_topic/144_se ptember_20_2.... Your name is under the photo, which links to our credits page at aaronlanguage.com/credits.html. Your name there links to your profile here at Flickr. Thanks again for this terrific shot!
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Wow. You really captured a beautiful photo!
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