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    A cold trip in Prague (-22 degrees C)

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      Dave in Tejas, karavelov, atbutler, jheine, and 32 other people added this photo to their favorites.

    2. Modular (71 months ago | reply)

      That's a beautiful view over the city. This picture has quite a Rodinal-like look.

    3. jsuominen (71 months ago | reply)

      Is Fomapan T200 same film as the former Paterson Acupan 200?

    4. Fotohuis (Robert) (71 months ago | reply)

      Yes it is. Paterson is/was doing some OEM business also with Foma. Before 2001 there was also a T800 film, sold under Acupan 800.
      Freestyle is doing the same under Aristo. There are only two manufacturers on the world market with iso 200 B&W films: Foma and Forte. Bergger is also Forte.

    5. jsuominen (71 months ago | reply)

      Thanks again. I'll buy and test the T200 in future. Have you made any comparison between Foma and Forte 200 ASA films?

    6. Fotohuis (Robert) (71 months ago | reply)

      The Forte Q.C. is on a very low level. Sometimes they have a lot of failures in their emulsion.
      The Dutch representative, who I know very well even stopped selling it (film) in fact. It can be of some interest for U.L.F. photography.

      Foma did a lot of Q.C. improvements last years. They have also an ISO certificate for some years. Further they are open for suggestions bring up by their distributors and customers.
      Here you can find the detailed specs of this film:
      www.foma.cz/Upload/foma/prilohy/F_pan_200_en. pdf

      Foma had to drop the T200 name under pressure of Kodak because they have patentet the name: Tmax for their Tgrain films.

      If you look at the specs carefully you can also see it's hard to reach E.I. 200 for this modern technology film. You can see already (in my example) it's nor looking like Delta or Tmax because this film was made in coörperation with Fuji, more or less some Acros technology.

      Here you can find more developing data for the Fomapan films:
      www.fotohuisrovo.nl/documentatie/Ontwikkeltij den.pdf

      All Fomapan films can be developed without any problems in AM74, also the T200. Another good combination is also Xtol and HRX-2. For both developers you have to pull the film.

    7. jsuominen (71 months ago | reply)

      When Paterson was marketing Acupan films, they recommented naturally Paterson developers for those films, too. So Paterson developers may suit also for Fomapan T200, if they are still available...

      I looked at the "Ontwikkeltijden tabel voor Foma film" pdf-file and it was strange, that Agfa Rodinal was not on the list for Foma T200 film developer. It was just for Foma 100. Maybe it's a marketing strategy, because Fomadon R09 (1+40) was in the "FOMAPAN 200 Creative" pdf-file. :-)

    8. Fotohuis (Robert) (71 months ago | reply)

      Paterson developers are partial bought OEM products and custom made following the receipture of (I forgot his name) the Paterson goeroe chemist.
      FX39 is about Champion Promicrol and the FX50 is in fact a liquid version of Xtol. But also Foma copied Xtol in their Excel developer.

      The developing table in my web site are partial known and tested developing times and data we collected and tested ourselves. The Rodinal times we tested ourselves, for T200 you can go for 1+50 and about the 9:00 Min. but for grain it's just acceptable (or maybe not) that's why I have not put it in so far. The Fomapan 400 is much too grainy to use with Rodinal (and also the R09 in my opinion). This film is like the APX400. Rather big grain and difficult in push processing. (I am talking now specially for 35mm). For 120 roll film and sheet film (T200 is by the way, available in 4X5" for the USA only) it's another situation.
      Sheet film is very weak on the Dutch market, same for the Paterson chemicals. I know only one store in Den Hague where you can get it.
      For most films the conversion between Rodinal and R09 is not so difficult. 1+25 = 1+20; 1+50 = 1+40 and 1+100 = 1+80. I have some negatives which I am not able anymore to tell you it's a Rodinal or R09 development. So far we have rather easy acess to Rodinal which is very heavy in weight so expensive in transport but if A&O should pull out the power on their Agfa chemical plant in Vaihingen we are going to import the Fomadon R09 from the Czech Republic. It's about 3 times in transport costs compared to Germany. Further R09 looks like 5 y.o. Rodinal so very brown because it's slightly different and not packed under nitrogen gas in the factory and will be also more difficult in marketing. Rodinal is a very famous and well known name.
      We have in our Fotohuis program different types of developers and not one duplicate of something which is in fact (almost) the same:
      www.fotohuisrovo.nl/documentatie/filmontwikke laars.pdf

      I still have to translate this to the English version.

      Depending on the film material, slow or medium speed, type of film: classical or modern technology, staining or non staining, speed enhanced or ultra fine grain (specially for 35mm) or two bath partial temperature independant we have a balanced program in choice.

      For the small market in the Netherlands it's already quite unique what we are offering.

    9. jsuominen (71 months ago | reply)

      Thanks again for thorough and good answer! An I'm sorry, if I was a bit sarcastic in my pervious comment... By the way, the Paterson chemist is Geoffrey Crawley, I think.

      About grain. If someone wants it, he can always try Ralph Gibson's style with Rodinal and Tri-X @ 100 to 400 ASA: 20C/68F, 1+25, 11 min., agit. 10 sec. in every 1½ min (from book "Darkroom", Lustrum Press, 1977). :)

    10. Fotohuis (Robert) (71 months ago | reply)

      Exacly, that's his name.

    11. somnium! (52 months ago | reply)

      I loveeeeee prague, nice

    12. 0zzie (50 months ago | reply)

      Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Decisive Moments... Classics in B&W, and we'd love to have this added to the group!

    13. dastpor2008 (47 months ago | reply)

      very ,very nice.

    14. alex-malex (45 months ago | reply)

      oh that's really good!

    15. Fotohuis (Robert) (45 months ago | reply)

      Thanks Alex, that's very kind.

    16. Keith Yeung (44 months ago | reply)

      Robert, very beautiful shot! I have seen in Leica forum and refer to here!

    17. Fotohuis (Robert) (44 months ago | reply)

      Thank you for your comment and other ones on my Flickr photo stream.

      Regards,

      Robert

    18. renaizzance (22 months ago | reply)

      Very nice photograph Robert.

    19. jhdesigninc. (3 months ago | reply)

      Beautiful

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