Looks like the King of Copy, Microsoft,
copied OS X error screen. Too Bad they can’t
write proper code. It also looks like in the
rush for a Xmas release they did not do
proper real world testing. However crashing
at boot up shows that bad code is present in
the firmware.
"Looks like the King of Copy, Microsoft,
copied OS X error screen. Too Bad they can’t
write proper code." -- Humm would that
mean Apple can't write "proper
code" either seeing that they too have
an error screen? "It also looks like in
the rush for a Xmas release they did not do
proper real world testing. However crashing
at boot up shows that bad code is present in
the firmware." -- True and maybe
compatibility issues with components (Do you
think this error screen is native to the
firmware of the PowerPC processor PROVIDED by
IBM to both companies?)
He's probably just got a bad hard drive.
There are going to be the occasional lemons.
Unless this can be shown to be wide-spread,
there's nothing unusual about this.
The reason it looks like the same kernel
panic as the Mac OS is because both the Mac
and the playstation and the xbox use the
NetBSD operating system as it's backbone
since it's the OS that supports the widest
array of hardware platforms. (you name it,
NetBSD probably runs on it)
the problem is simple really, microsoft. they
don't know what theyre doing with the x86
platform and completely have no business with
the PPC and REALLY have no business coding
for BSD kernels when they can't even figure
out how to make a stable Windows kernel that
they "invented". They probably use
the same ideology they use when building x86
software and gave no thought to IPC
stability.
Like other dude said, just a rush for
Christmas like every other MS product.
"The reason it looks like the same
kernel panic as the Mac OS is because both
the Mac and the playstation and the xbox use
the NetBSD operating system as it's backbone
since it's the OS that supports the widest
array of hardware platforms. (you name it,
NetBSD probably runs on it)"
er, that's totally inaccurate. the only
BSD-like thing about OS X is the UNIX
userland. the stuff from the kernel downward
is not at all similar. and being as this is a
kernel panic, that's the relavant part. plus,
i doubt a XBOX 360 even has a UNIX userland..
"Looks like the King of Copy, Microsoft,
copied OS X error screen."
Okay, it's in multiple languages. Beyond
that, I see no similarities. This is what an
OS X kernel panic looks like (this is the
only time I've had the good fortune to see
one, and it was 1.5 years ago):
That error screen is almost identicial to the
error screen on the original xbox, except its
white on black, instead of green on black.
And they moved the location of the error code
from the top to the bottom. Changing the
color of text from green to white doesn't
mean anything was stolen, though it was a
nice try to slam microsoft (which is like
fish in a barrel these days).
And most of the screenshots here look like a
standard graphic device output when it
overheats, I've seen similiar effects on my
PC from time to time.
Hmm...the new console Microsoft is punting as
"revolutionary" is unstable?
Instability isn't revolutionary, it's
Microsoft's trademark!
Oh, and the OS X error screen is totally
independent of the procesor/firmware/NetBSD,
as it resides in the OS itself. OS X 10.1
used a block of text prefaced with
"Panic! We're really hanging
here...", and OS X 10.2 draws a square
on the screen telling you in several
languages to turn your Mac off because the
kernel is brainf**ked. And how MS thinks
someeone is going to be able to read the
CHinese on the bottom is just beyond me.
The screen shots look very much like the same
problem I had with a raydeon 7000 card in
some odd named motherboard. If you barely
tapped the PC the screen would go all fuzzy
and sometimes colorful like that. I had to
turn the PC off, jiggle the video card and it
would normally restart fine. That card worked
fine in another PC and that MB has another
card in it and it works great..... some kind
of incompatability issues.
Looks like faulty or overheating graphics
subsystem to me (most likely on a console by
console basis) and LMAO at Mac zealots
finding a MS bashing angle - of course
ANYTHING Microsoft does is ALWAYS COPIED from
Apple. You put an error on a screen and you
'copied' from Apple. LOL.
Speaking of which, where is the Apple games
console zealots..? I mean - surely Microsoft
must have copied that from Apple too right?
So where is it?
Apple had the Pippin game console in the
mid-ninties. So, yes, Microsoft followed
Apple into the gaming console market. But no
one is saying that Microsoft copied Apple by
creating the Xbox.
The reason the Xbox even became popular is
advertising and lack of interest from 14 year
olds in purchasing quality equipment. I
personally do not doubt the hardware inside
but in the quality of the software that runs
it. If we all remember back when the first
Xbox came out at the very first conference
they had brought several because of system
instability. Every premier of Windows
showcased how well Gates can play off the
fact he's seeing a blue screen in front of
3,000 onlookers.
Buying something from a crap company is like
re-electing a crap president, you have your
loyal hopes up but true to reputation
everything comes out retarded.
(mdellabitta needs to use his computer for
research instead of BBW porn, netbsd is the
base for an endless array of obscure or
proprietary hardware and there is limited
interchangability between bsdi, obsd, nbsd,
and fbsd. regardless of the exactness of
detail, it's BSD unix and microsoft + unix =
Jackass style hilarity)
Ummm matt_brown... 2k/xp isn't a kernel. I
believe you would be refering to the Windows
NT kernel. (which is what 2k, xp, and soon to
be Vista all run on)
I have a KISS DP-558 player. It's OS is Linux
and it crashes quite often. It freezes in the
middle of playing mp3s, you often cannot fast
forward in mpeg or avi files (never while
playing mp3s) etcetc. So it's not only MS
having shitty hard-/firmware. But this looks much more like an overheating
problem. Everyone having overclocked his
graphics card knows this kind of screens.
Apple This, BSD That...don't over analyze it. Homeboy here has just afforded us with a
snapshot of Bill's head after all all the
gamers run his ass down and over.
this just isnt right... i loved my first xbox
but as of this day forward, i will shit on
xbox 360 and any microsoft related product.
it really pisses me off that they released
this bug infested unfinished pile of shit
right before the hollidays just so microsoft
could make "a killing" (as if they
dont have enough money already). i hope most
people, me being one of them, will chose to
take huge steamy runny dumps on microsoft.
ps3 or revolution ONLY. Its really obvious
for anyone to see that this console was
greedily forced and rushed into finalization and production just so that every kid would
ask for one for x-mas, which i find downright
unacceptable.. ITS A CONSOLE FOR FUCKS
SAKE!!! we chose consoles over pc's to avoid
crashings, patchings and the rest of that pc
related gayness.... microsoft, the xbox360 is
simply...UNACCEPTABLE.id release some patches
to patch this piece of shit up pretty quick
so maybe you can sweep this one under the
carpet....fucking losers.
this just isnt right... i loved my first xbox
but as of this day forward, i will shit on
xbox 360 and any microsoft related product.
it really pisses me off that they released
this bug infested unfinished pile of shit
right before the hollidays just so microsoft
could make "a killing" (as if they
dont have enough money already). i hope most
people, me being one of them, will chose to
take huge steamy runny dumps on microsoft.
ps3 or revolution ONLY. Its really obvious
for anyone to see that this console was
greedily forced and rushed into finalization and production just so that every kid would
ask for one for x-mas, which i find downright
unacceptable.. ITS A CONSOLE FOR FUCKS
SAKE!!! we chose consoles over pc's to avoid
crashings, patchings and the rest of that pc
related gayness.... microsoft, the xbox360 is
simply...UNACCEPTABLE.id release some patches
to patch this piece of shit up pretty quick
so maybe you can sweep this one under the
carpet....fucking losers.
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Trachalio (79 months ago | reply)
Dude that is completely harsh. I hope you wern't standing in line for forever for this box!
pixel_attack (79 months ago | reply)
Let's rename it to crash-box.
carlosz (79 months ago | reply)
...and that's why microsoft sucks!.
fimion (79 months ago | reply)
do they call this the X-BSOD?
rspress (79 months ago | reply)
Looks like the King of Copy, Microsoft, copied OS X error screen. Too Bad they can’t write proper code. It also looks like in the rush for a Xmas release they did not do proper real world testing. However crashing at boot up shows that bad code is present in the firmware.
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e-z (79 months ago | reply)
that's one bad looking sod...
Emptythought (79 months ago | reply)
holy crap, that really DOES look alot like the mac os X crash screen
danrider420 (79 months ago | reply)
"Looks like the King of Copy, Microsoft, copied OS X error screen. Too Bad they can’t write proper code." -- Humm would that mean Apple can't write "proper code" either seeing that they too have an error screen? "It also looks like in the rush for a Xmas release they did not do proper real world testing. However crashing at boot up shows that bad code is present in the firmware." -- True and maybe compatibility issues with components (Do you think this error screen is native to the firmware of the PowerPC processor PROVIDED by IBM to both companies?)
boochstl (79 months ago | reply)
He's probably just got a bad hard drive. There are going to be the occasional lemons. Unless this can be shown to be wide-spread, there's nothing unusual about this.
Bones_ (79 months ago | reply)
I feal the pain man
chad050 (79 months ago | reply)
you're linked to slashdot this morning!
wybnormal (79 months ago | reply)
And you expected what from MS with their normal rush to market?
soujiroxiv (79 months ago | reply)
Idiots. When will you ever learn to never buy a console on release day?
mbrewer (79 months ago | reply)
This looks a lot like the Mac OS X kernel panic screen except you can typically read the one on the Mac.
docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=10622 7
mbrewer (79 months ago | reply)
"Do you think this error screen is native to the firmware of the PowerPC processor PROVIDED by IBM to both companies?"
No, don't be silly.
DjArcas (79 months ago | reply)
...and that's why you shouldn't jam something in the exhaust fan of your 360...
sirenbrian (79 months ago | reply)
Snowcrash! well, almost...
Brenden D (79 months ago | reply)
Well, now that 'silly' Revolution controller looks pretty good right about now...
0wen (79 months ago | reply)
Does this look like the old NES to anyone else?
juanschoonover (79 months ago | reply)
Any of you heard of Open Firmware? Also, the garbage overlayed over the game and the firmware screen look more like a hardware QA problem to me...
malicious_code2002 (79 months ago | reply)
The reason it looks like the same kernel panic as the Mac OS is because both the Mac and the playstation and the xbox use the NetBSD operating system as it's backbone since it's the OS that supports the widest array of hardware platforms. (you name it, NetBSD probably runs on it)
the problem is simple really, microsoft. they don't know what theyre doing with the x86 platform and completely have no business with the PPC and REALLY have no business coding for BSD kernels when they can't even figure out how to make a stable Windows kernel that they "invented". They probably use the same ideology they use when building x86 software and gave no thought to IPC stability.
Like other dude said, just a rush for Christmas like every other MS product.
mdellabitta (79 months ago | reply)
"The reason it looks like the same kernel panic as the Mac OS is because both the Mac and the playstation and the xbox use the NetBSD operating system as it's backbone since it's the OS that supports the widest array of hardware platforms. (you name it, NetBSD probably runs on it)"
er, that's totally inaccurate. the only BSD-like thing about OS X is the UNIX userland. the stuff from the kernel downward is not at all similar. and being as this is a kernel panic, that's the relavant part. plus, i doubt a XBOX 360 even has a UNIX userland..
mikewarren (79 months ago | reply)
OS X uses "Darwin" which is Apple's BSD based on FreeBSD. It uses the Mach micro-kernel.
developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/darwin/fa q.html
jvansanten (79 months ago | reply)
"Looks like the King of Copy, Microsoft, copied OS X error screen."
Okay, it's in multiple languages. Beyond that, I see no similarities. This is what an OS X kernel panic looks like (this is the only time I've had the good fortune to see one, and it was 1.5 years ago):
www.flickr.com/photos/jvansanten/66305338/
Note that it's a profoundly tasty bitmap, instead of a console dump.
unr3alchi3f (79 months ago | reply)
Looks like everything that u would get from Microsoft will get the BSOD at least once...
Still wanting to get a 360, but now thinking if i should really get it...
stairmaster401 (79 months ago | reply)
That error screen is almost identicial to the error screen on the original xbox, except its white on black, instead of green on black. And they moved the location of the error code from the top to the bottom. Changing the color of text from green to white doesn't mean anything was stolen, though it was a nice try to slam microsoft (which is like fish in a barrel these days).
And most of the screenshots here look like a standard graphic device output when it overheats, I've seen similiar effects on my PC from time to time.
oboreruhito (79 months ago | reply)
"Taken with a Sony Cybershot."
CLASSIC.
someguy805 (79 months ago | reply)
Hmm...the new console Microsoft is punting as "revolutionary" is unstable? Instability isn't revolutionary, it's Microsoft's trademark!
Oh, and the OS X error screen is totally independent of the procesor/firmware/NetBSD, as it resides in the OS itself. OS X 10.1 used a block of text prefaced with "Panic! We're really hanging here...", and OS X 10.2 draws a square on the screen telling you in several languages to turn your Mac off because the kernel is brainf**ked. And how MS thinks someeone is going to be able to read the CHinese on the bottom is just beyond me.
madmaxneo (79 months ago | reply)
The screen shots look very much like the same problem I had with a raydeon 7000 card in some odd named motherboard. If you barely tapped the PC the screen would go all fuzzy and sometimes colorful like that. I had to turn the PC off, jiggle the video card and it would normally restart fine. That card worked fine in another PC and that MB has another card in it and it works great..... some kind of incompatability issues.
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macnaru (79 months ago | reply)
It's not a bug, it's a feature ! ;)
myzeta (79 months ago | reply)
Microsoft should use Intel x86 architecture..
justinnash (79 months ago | reply)
That's a surprise to find that overpriced MS trash crashes.
lukas_y2k (79 months ago | reply)
Well, not really overpiced, but trash anyways :-)
Skinfitz (79 months ago | reply)
Looks like faulty or overheating graphics subsystem to me (most likely on a console by console basis) and LMAO at Mac zealots finding a MS bashing angle - of course ANYTHING Microsoft does is ALWAYS COPIED from Apple. You put an error on a screen and you 'copied' from Apple. LOL.
Speaking of which, where is the Apple games console zealots..? I mean - surely Microsoft must have copied that from Apple too right? So where is it?
mbrewer (79 months ago | reply)
Apple had the Pippin game console in the mid-ninties. So, yes, Microsoft followed Apple into the gaming console market. But no one is saying that Microsoft copied Apple by creating the Xbox.
malicious_code2002 (79 months ago | reply)
The reason the Xbox even became popular is advertising and lack of interest from 14 year olds in purchasing quality equipment. I personally do not doubt the hardware inside but in the quality of the software that runs it. If we all remember back when the first Xbox came out at the very first conference they had brought several because of system instability. Every premier of Windows showcased how well Gates can play off the fact he's seeing a blue screen in front of 3,000 onlookers.
Buying something from a crap company is like re-electing a crap president, you have your loyal hopes up but true to reputation everything comes out retarded.
(mdellabitta needs to use his computer for research instead of BBW porn, netbsd is the base for an endless array of obscure or proprietary hardware and there is limited interchangability between bsdi, obsd, nbsd, and fbsd. regardless of the exactness of detail, it's BSD unix and microsoft + unix = Jackass style hilarity)
dustin5490 (79 months ago | reply)
DAAAA thats why you don't buy the core system. NO graphic card. What a dipshit!!!
dustin5490 (79 months ago | reply)
sweet game it's space invaders thats why you put only xbox 360 games in the drve and its in fuck jappanesse it hasn't come out to the public yet!!!
Damdam (79 months ago | reply)
That's why I'll wait for the Nintendo Revolution.
morpheuz615 (79 months ago | reply)
Damn, what the hell is THAT? Lousy, just plain lousy....take it back!
matt_brown (79 months ago | reply)
malicious_code2002, what the hell are you talking about? XBox's run on a modified Windows 2k/XP kernel.
larsonkid50 (79 months ago | reply)
Ummm matt_brown... 2k/xp isn't a kernel. I believe you would be refering to the Windows NT kernel. (which is what 2k, xp, and soon to be Vista all run on)
drugstercom (79 months ago | reply)
I have a KISS DP-558 player. It's OS is Linux and it crashes quite often. It freezes in the middle of playing mp3s, you often cannot fast forward in mpeg or avi files (never while playing mp3s) etcetc. So it's not only MS having shitty hard-/firmware.
But this looks much more like an overheating problem. Everyone having overclocked his graphics card knows this kind of screens.
instatiate001 (79 months ago | reply)
Apple This, BSD That...don't over analyze it.
Homeboy here has just afforded us with a snapshot of Bill's head after all all the gamers run his ass down and over.
thrax_invictus (79 months ago | reply)
this just isnt right... i loved my first xbox but as of this day forward, i will shit on xbox 360 and any microsoft related product. it really pisses me off that they released this bug infested unfinished pile of shit right before the hollidays just so microsoft could make "a killing" (as if they dont have enough money already). i hope most people, me being one of them, will chose to take huge steamy runny dumps on microsoft. ps3 or revolution ONLY. Its really obvious for anyone to see that this console was greedily forced and rushed into finalization
and production just so that every kid would ask for one for x-mas, which i find downright unacceptable.. ITS A CONSOLE FOR FUCKS SAKE!!! we chose consoles over pc's to avoid crashings, patchings and the rest of that pc related gayness.... microsoft, the xbox360 is simply...UNACCEPTABLE.id release some patches to patch this piece of shit up pretty quick so maybe you can sweep this one under the carpet....fucking losers.
thrax_invictus (79 months ago | reply)
this just isnt right... i loved my first xbox but as of this day forward, i will shit on xbox 360 and any microsoft related product. it really pisses me off that they released this bug infested unfinished pile of shit right before the hollidays just so microsoft could make "a killing" (as if they dont have enough money already). i hope most people, me being one of them, will chose to take huge steamy runny dumps on microsoft. ps3 or revolution ONLY. Its really obvious for anyone to see that this console was greedily forced and rushed into finalization
and production just so that every kid would ask for one for x-mas, which i find downright unacceptable.. ITS A CONSOLE FOR FUCKS SAKE!!! we chose consoles over pc's to avoid crashings, patchings and the rest of that pc related gayness.... microsoft, the xbox360 is simply...UNACCEPTABLE.id release some patches to patch this piece of shit up pretty quick so maybe you can sweep this one under the carpet....fucking losers.
jonytk (78 months ago | reply)
Soon you'll have to install some service packs into your X-box.
XDDD
godsmakurface (70 months ago | reply)
yep going on 4th console had the lines and a loud screaching noise coming from speakers did that 4 about 5 min. then got the fucing 3 red lights
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