A crop of an earlier upload for use in my upcoming magazine, World
View Two.
See all 36 images in the magazine's set as a slideshow:
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This photo was taken on May 8, 2008 in Downtown, New York, NY, US.
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daystar297, Photographer Jerry Lee, robotkasten, rosefirerising, and 28 other people added this photo to their favorites.
daystar297 (49 months ago | reply)
kaleidoscopalishes . . .
JShine (49 months ago | reply)
trippy_ =)
p0ps Harlow (49 months ago | reply)
ha!
Vilmar Tavares (49 months ago | reply)
A nossa mente deve estar assim....
shveckle (49 months ago | reply)
crazy!!!
Elisha Cook Jr. (49 months ago | reply)
It's a great pano Pops !!!!.
Eva the Weaver (49 months ago | reply)
Great. Makes me want to do something similar.
Will probably forget once I'm out there, though… haha.
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p0ps Harlow (49 months ago | reply)
I'd like to point out to those wanting to do something like this that I'm using a 2 megapixel camera. Those with larger cameras may have a more difficult time because of the quickly escalating file size as you put 30 to 40 photos on Photoshop layers. This collage is 41 photos.
Another aspect of what I'm doing, which might not be immediately apparent is that my camera has a fixed wide angle lens (probably about 30 - 35mm) and I shoot (both for these and for the stitched panos) up close. Most people think of panoramas as appropriate for covering distant scenes, I am shooting views with subjects as close as one meter combined with more distant details.
One more point is that my hand held camera does not only "pan" (turn from a fixed pov), it also "tracks" (a moving position) as well. This was a problem for me in putting the above collage together. I actually would have preferred to only deal with differences resulting from panning. What I had to deal with here, both panning and tracking was too much, altho, I'm not displeased with the "crazy" result.
I have made stitched panos from tracking shoots (recently www.flickr.com/photos/p0ps/sets/7215760153595 2151/)
I have made stitched panos from panning shoots (ie: www.flickr.com/photos/p0ps/1934136594/in/set- 721576015359...
Also in this shoot, I tilted the camera in arbitrary increments within a 0 to 90 degree range from vertical. each shot at a different tilt as well as the pan and track differences.
I've done this a few times before, as in:
www.flickr.com/photos/p0ps/2395888968
www.flickr.com/photos/p0ps/2366427698
www.flickr.com/photos/p0ps/2344617721
btw: my contact, John Melskens, has published an article in a Dutch photo magazine on panorama, using my "crazy quilt" method as one example. www.fotoapparatuur.nl/Artikelen/index.php/Pan oramafoto-s/...
I'd be pleased to see others making collaged images using any of these methods, be sure to alert me so I don't miss them.
My recommendation is to use a cell phone or other very small camera.
robotkasten (49 months ago | reply)
Very cool- think I will give it a try.
cam i am (49 months ago | reply)
this is the best one yet. me thinks.
O V E R U N D E R (49 months ago | reply)
so there is order in chaos?
looks real good pops!
p0ps Harlow (49 months ago | reply)
Thanx everyone for the responses.
robotkasten - I want to see what you come up with.
Cam - I think this method would make a good study to use in your tiled paintings. (btw: I'm definitely coming to L.A. for your next opening 7/26).
MC Hammerheadshark - thnx. chaos is only unsorted complexity.
Vilmar Tavares - Espero que as nossas mentes estão bem, espero que ajude art.
Luna Park (49 months ago | reply)
reminds me of stained glass... in any case, i'll agree this is one of your best!
bocvana (49 months ago | reply)
uuuuu trippy once again!!! :))
p0ps Harlow (49 months ago | reply)
tnx, luna & bojana :-))
olzv (49 months ago | reply)
Very good one!
6161810 (46 months ago | reply)
I like to call it Photo Cubism.. a term someone gave me...
p0ps Harlow (46 months ago | reply)
@6161810
I can accept Photo Cubism, with this reservation: strictly speaking, as I learned about it, the intent of cubism was to simultaneously show multiple views of a subject, i.e. front, sides, rear views, top and bottom views. What we have here and in most of the Hockneyesque collages is multiple shots from one vantage point - we are usually shooting up, down, side to side from a fixed position. To do strict Cubism, we'd shoot a building from both ends of the block plus a aerial view, perhaps shots from inside, as well.
But, I can put aside the reservation because the Cubist painters didn't take the theory very far - they settled on simply repeating some stylistic tricks which came from early attempts to combine multiple views. So, it's fair, I guess to simplify the concept from multiple viewpoints to multiple shoots from one viewpoint. Now, anything with a bunch of diagonal lines is called Cubist.
I first saw Hockney use multiple photographs collaged to give a panoramic view of one scene. He called it Photo Cubism, so, while I'm not enthusiastic about the connection to mid 20th Century Hockney or early 20th Century Picasso, Braque, Gris, I guess it's fair enough.
John Melsken calls these "Patch Panos", I like that better.
goldsmithexile [deleted] (45 months ago | reply)
Interesting comments on "coobizm" Steve
As I see things, cubist vision is like a goldmine that was abandoned too soon. It still has a lot of mileage in terms of looking at the physical world, rather than some of the self centred, introverted inner vision/inner journey type stuff, surrealism, psychotic stream of consciousness automaticisism etc (the outcome of which is abstract abstraction).
I once read about some people from the far north, they lived among ice and snow almost continually. The concept of a map was alien to them as they had developed the ability to navigate by intuition. "Sophisticated" western scientist researchers marvelled that they studied a map that they were shown, by simultaneously reading from all 4 sides (and were able to understand it), they didnt have that fundemental fixed point baseline aspect in their aproach to the world. I think its the same with the cave paintings at Lascaux and similar places. The poor old primitives who did them must of been crude (mozart wasnt born then, LOL!!) because they didnt have plumblines, set squares and spirit levels. We must be super clever nowadays because we have satellite GPS.....
Your right, cubism has been misunderstood and misrepresented, its really simple. No offense, but go on so called "cubist" flickr groups and ask "how is your composition cubist" you get those responses "well its got squares in it hasnt it.....?" I had to laugh, watching Yo Yo Ma on a TV show, listening to "primitive" african musicians, feverishly trying (and failing because their sense of rhythm and timing was too sophisticated) to notate what they were improvising. The Africans thought it highly amusing-to them they were just playing pretty much as most of their forebears had done for hundreds of years, yet Yo Yo had this irational urge to "fix" it in time and space, couldnt trust his own intuition? Miles Davis was happy to let people get on with it (get up with it!)
As for David Hockney, well we both come from Yorkshire, so he's one of the lads LOL!! And it was reading his books which made me realise in a positively reaffirming way, that art is a visual activity, you look at art, like you hear music. This was very exciting and refreshing after the crushingly dreary goldsmiths experience.
Re your question about your composition here, it has elements of cubism and fauvism but does that tag ultimately matter? More importantly its also your vision; glowing centre, assymetry in the foreground, surface divided up with meshes or lattices etc etc....Its a nice loose visually interesting composition.
Cheers Jonathan
p0ps Harlow (45 months ago | reply)
Good discussion, Jn8 - this is very similar to my attitudes and interests. Renaissance perspective became a standard reference which squeezed out previous, more intuitive and interesting ways of depicting the world. The Cubist vision, in it's best sense, exploded perspective capturing an intuitive display by going forward from perspective.
Your examples, the far north map readers, the African musicians being too sophisticated for notation, and Miles' hands-off, catalytic method are all examples I appreciate.
I will add one that has been important to my way of thinking, I have not checked out its validity, but the way I remember it, in the '60s some western explorers in Borneo or Java introduced color Poloraid photos to a previously isolated society, who seemed not to recognize photo prints of themselves, neighbors or family, they seemed to see them as bits of color on a shiny piece of stiff, mysterious material. They were as interested in the backs of the prints as the so-called image area. It didn't represent any aspect of the world to them. This gave me an appreciation for how we've learned to read images.
As for Hockney, tho I know where he was raised, I connect him with my home area, Los Angeles - maybe it's all the swimming pools. I like him, I appreciate what he's done for me and us, but, I'm not really thrilled with his work. He's better than the average artist for me, but not a god. My god is David Park - even tho, it's hard to see any influence from him in my current work, if I ever take time to make a retrospective, I will be proud if Parks' inspiration shows as my life-long guide.
RasMarley (41 months ago | reply)
This is very nice. I like Hockney.
mikewallis99 (38 months ago | reply)
Hi, I'm an admin for a group called Iphone art, and we'd love to have this added to the group!
flickrolf (36 months ago | reply)
Hi, I'm an admin for a group called # The Coll/Stitch/Patch/Merge-Age #, and we'd love to have this added to the group! THANKS !!!
rockczar (36 months ago | reply)
Whatever you call it, it is a great collage.My favorite part is the ceiling.
eat your veggies fotos [deleted] (32 months ago | reply)
def cubism! love it
goldsmithexile [deleted] (31 months ago | reply)
I just saw this again after a long time, man what a cracking composition, so fresh and daring.
jelii64 (26 months ago | reply)
Nice discussion. I appreciate your process and your work is very creative. I too believe Cubism has considerable potential yet to be explored or shared. I'm looking forward to what's coming...
I am a fibre artist and am working on a knitted piece with Cubist influence. Exciting time for this genre, eh?
Thanks for sharing!
Cat Girl 007 (16 months ago | reply)
Great job!