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Unless staff sees this (which they may), you might be better off sending a Help by Email using the link at the foot of the page to ask for your account to be reverted back to a free one.
Or, you can stay, restrict the download setting, and use this 3rd party application to automatically put a link to the large size in the descriptions of all your photos:
www.urspark.com/flickrquicklinks.htm
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Thanks Zyrcster, but I really don't want to install more apps or do extra work just to get the functionality I had with my free account. I'd rather just have the free account.
I have already sent my email asking Flickr to downgrade my account from Pro back to the free account. I just posted this in hopes that they will fix this and maybe to help prevent someone from wasting the money like I did.
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As long as everyone realizes that with a free account, even the photographer cannot access the original size.
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yes, that is a good point.
That isn't an issue for me because I have the original size on my computer (and a back up drive). I guess there are people who would use Flickr as a way to have a backup location for their images and/or would want to be able to have access to their original uploaded version from the web for other reasons.
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Question for you , ColleenM:
why do you have the "all sizes" link turned off on your photos? Is it because there is no way to hide the original size image with your pro account?
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same question for you , zyrcster:
why do you have the "all sizes" link turned off on your photos? Is it because there is no way to hide the original size image with your pro account?
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sirshannon The website I linked does not require you to install any software. While you're waiting for the downgrade, why not go to it and try it out on on of your sets and see how you like it?
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 sirshannon "Is it because there is no way to hide the original size image with your pro account? "
Nope. You'll notice I don't have links to large either.
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sirshannon Because I only want friends and family to download my photos (as far as that's possible). It really has nothing to do with the original for me, since I don't even upload the originals.
That said, I would also like to see this functionality added for Pro accounts (be able to allow viewing/downloading of the large while restricting access to the original). There is a thread in Flickr Ideas for this feature request.
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FYI, here's the open Flickr Ideas topic requesting more control over which sizes can be accessed under "All Sizes" here: flickr.com/groups/flickrideas/discuss/72157600727889685/
(My own approach is to restrict general access to All Sized but to occasionally link to a larger size.)
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Lú_ :
Thanks for that link. I am sad to see that the topic was posted a year and a half ago. That doesn't bode well.
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My favorite solution (which I think I laid out on that Flickr Ideas topic or another one) is a simple checkbox next to each size. I can choose which ones I want visible, and above the photo maybe the wording changes to simply "more sizes".
But I first put this out there a couple of years ago, so I wouldn't hold your breath it's high on their list.
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I'm confused a bit. Why do you upload original sizes in the first place knowing you can't actually access them? Why not keep the Pro and have the Uploadr set to resize to 1024px and turn "all sizes" on?
The only reason to have original files with a free acct is if you use flickr for printing.
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zyrcster :
I went the Flickr Quick View Link Creator link and tried to add links to one of my sets but it didn't work.
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I upload the original files because those are the files that I have. I do not use an uploading program that resizes them, I use the browser. I do not wish to install software and have to use that software just to get the same functionality with a paid account as I was getting with my free account. I would rather have my free account back.
Printing is not the only reason to have original files. I have original files because I don't want to make a seperate, smaller version of the files and have 2 copies just so I can upload the small one to Flickr. That is extra work, extra files, and not something I feel I should have to do with a paid account. Things should be better and easier with a paid account, not harder with more steps.
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Then I suppose you'll just have to wait for Flickr to downgrade you if you don't think it's worth using the Uploadr tool to take advantage of your $25 investment in Pro.
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sirshannon "just to get the same functionality with a paid account as I was getting with my free account."
Just so other people are not confused: you do not get the same functionality. With a Pro account, the photographer has access to the original size. With a free account the photographer does not have access to the original size.
The functionality is very very different. Many people find that not having access to their own original size photograph is quite frustrating.
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sirshannon I just used that app to make links on my most recent set. Did you click the links at the bottom of the page and authorize Flickr to use the app?
www.urspark.com/fql.php
What part did not work?
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Yes, ColleenM, as I stated the last time you replied, Pro users get access to their Original files. There are also several other differences between pro and free accounts, there has to be a reason to pay for an account so there are many additional features.
The features I am talking about in the part you quoted are the features that I, as a free account user, loved so much that I decided to become a paying member. Yes there are added features in the pro account, yes there are different features, but the feature I am talking about is ONLY available in free accounts: web-based uploading of images that you can share in all sizes except the original size. That feature was the main reason I loved Flickr so much and that feature does not exist in Pro accounts and is literally impossible to get back without cancelling my pro account. I'm not talking about added features, I'm not talking about extra, changed, or bonus features, I am talking about the feature I used, the feature that does not exist in the pro account.
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Most people see that as a problem, not a feature. Not having access to your own original size uploads is not usually seen as a benefit.
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I still don't understand why you don't just use the Uploader (desktop client), which will resize your photos on the fly to the large size.
Or why the website I linked doesn't work for you.
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He doesn't want to use Flickr software designed to solve the "problem" he's having with being able to access his own original uploads.
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zycster:
I did the entire process from start to finish with no apparent results.
1. clicked www.urspark.com/flickrquicklinks.htm
2. scrolled to the bottom of the hideous page, clicked "Flickr Quick View Link Creator"
3. allowed the app access
4. on the Louise - Paisleys Quick View Links page, I chose the first set of photos listed, chose Above, Everyone, Large, and In the same window/tab, clicked the submit button, and got the "Quick Linking Has Now Completed" page.
But I don't see any results of this; I don't see any "quick linking" or other changes/additions at all.
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ColleenM:
I don't want to use additional software. As a free user, I didn't need to. That is a big part of why I loved my Flickr account so much that I decided to pay for a pro account.
The featureset for a pro account is different than that of the free account and I prefer the free account to the pro account.
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sirshannon It does not appear that you even have a large size for the photos in your Portrait set.
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Yea, you do not have photos in the large size on your photos in your Portraits set. So, that app didn't provide a link since there is no large size to link. So, you do have some means to resize photos?
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flickr.com/photos/sirsha/2328610197/in/set-72157611551062... this photo has a large size.
I also tried this again with the other 2 sets, didn't work for any of them.
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I have the "all sizes" link turned off. Otherwise, why would I need the "view large" link added to my descriptions?
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Maybe it's failing when it encounters any photo in a set that does not have a large size. I can use the app, but then I know I have at least the large size on all the photos in the sets I'm trying.
Which begs to question, if you have some photos that are not the large size, you're doing something to them?
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All Sizes is trivial. Anyone can get to the large size of any photo they can see on Flickr if they how or use the API Explorer (and if the large size is available).
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"Which [raises the] question, if you have some photos that are not the large size, you're doing something to them?"
Yes, I do post production on my images before I upload them. Some of them are cropped to a letterbox ratio that flickr apparently doesn't consider "Large" because the height is shorter than expected, maybe? The first image in the Portraits set has Original dimensions of 1024 x 576 but there is no Large version listed.
You're probably right about the Links app failing when it hits the first photo and there is no Large available. Strange that Flickr wouldn't consider 1024 x 576 to be the Large version.
Thanks for all of your help.
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"All Sizes is trivial. Anyone can get to the large size of any photo they can see on Flickr if they how or use the API Explorer (and if the large size is available). "
Yes, I know. I only have the All Sizes link off temporarily until my account is downgraded to a free account again.
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Flickr does not create a "large" size from your original unless the original is at least 1280 pixels on its longest size.
And it doesn't matter whether or not you have All Sizes turned off. As zyrcster says, anyone can get the large size of any photos they can see on Flickr, as long as a large size exists.
The All Sizes (who can download) setting is simply meant to discourage people.
By "discourage" we do mean simply "discourage". Please understand that if a photo can be viewed in a web browser, it can be downloaded. The transparent image overlaid on the photo will not keep your images safe from theft, and is intended only as a slight hindrance to downloading.
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Wow, that is interesting info. Thanks.
I just assumed that anything over the 1024px Large size would have a Large sized image.
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"And it doesn't matter whether or not you have All Sizes turned off. As zyrcster says, anyone can get the large size of any photos they can see on Flickr, as long as a large size exists"
Yes, I know. I only have the All Sizes link off temporarily until my account is downgraded to a free account again.
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Anyone can still get the large size. What good is turning off All Sizes doing for you?
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"anyone can still get the large size. What good is turning off All Sizes doing for you? "
as stated in my original post, the "all sizes" link gives everyone access to the Original files now that I have a Pro account.
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how big are your originals anyway that you're worried about someone downloading them?
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They don't need access to the original if the original is smaller than 1280. They can just use whatever size you uploaded. It's the same size as your "original".
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most of my pics are ~2000px wide.
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How many photos are we talking about? If you really just have 23, and half of them are at 2000px, it'd be pretty easy to just replace them all with a size smaller than 1280px, then use the Uploader to resize on the fly your future uploads to be less than the original size.
I mean, you're out the $25 anyway -- why not just make it work for you?
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Yeah, what zyrcster said. Probably take about 20 minutes to do via Picnik.
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"you're out the $25 anyway -- why not just make it work for you? "
The free account worked perfectly for me until I messed that up by purchasing the pro account. I'd rather be out $25 and have a free account that worked just the way I liked it than be out $25, have a pro account, and do extra work to get it kinda close to the way it used to work for me.
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Then just wait to be downgraded again. Everybody's happy.
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OK, but that seems to me to cut off your nose to spite your face. You already do some post-production, right, so those will be fine going forward. And the Uploader can be set once to resize on the fly all future uploads to the large size.
So, you do about 30 minutes worth of work now and you're set for all time and have the benefits of a Pro account for a year. I mean, in the time this thread has run, all of that could have been and over with.
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"Probably take about 20 minutes to do via Picnik. "
but would take 0 minutes with a free account!
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olivepix wrote Then just wait to be downgraded again.
Yeah. That was my advice 3 hours ago. :/
sirshannon wrote but would take 0 minutes with a free account! Or, maybe 2 or 3 weeks, depending on how long it takes Flickr staff to reach your help message in their queue. if you'd just got on and done it yourself by resizing the handful you have, you'd be finished by now.
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I know... *sigh*
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Brenda Anderson says:
olivepix wrote
Then just wait to be downgraded again.
Yeah. That was my advice 3 hours ago. :/
Yeah. That was my advice to myself 6 hours ago :/
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sirshannon Yea, but you have the benefit of a Pro account, right here and right now. And for all we know, in the next year they might actually do something with the sizes (given that they're revamping the photo pages, who knows). And you've invested an entire day in this thread, when for 20-30 minutes of work, you "fix" it, it's done, you never have to worry about it again, and you're not waiting for 3 weeks until staff gets back to you via mail.
OK, usually it's 3-5 days, but they seem a bit backed up.
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Yeah. That was my advice to myself 6 hours ago :/
sirshannon
Haha! I hope you've enjoyed your time here then ;-)
Personally(even though I know you don't care to hear it), I'd set up Uploadr to scale my images and enjoy other benefits of pro account. But that's just me, you do whatever makes you happy. You can't say that people didn't try to help you though.
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zyrcster, I added a new set of images just to test that Quick Links app again but it still didn't appear to add any links to my images. I made sure the images had full-sized originals (and thus Large-sized images) beforehand.
Still doesn't appear to have worked.
I know it isn't your app, just following up on my assumption that the previous failures were due to the missing Large images.
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sirshannon How odd. I don't know why it's not working for you -- works fine here.
However, if you just quickly blip through all your photos and re-size the ones that are too big, you won't need those links anyway. ;-)
Sorry that app didn't work. I don't know of a similar one, but I'll keep my eye out.
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olivepix said "...You can't say that people didn't try to help you though."
that is absolutely correct.
thanks again to everyone.
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What good is my gallery (defined as images plus titles, and comments) if a free member cannot see "original images"? Public viewing of my gallery is primary idea for me. Maybe, I wasted $25.
Flickr is just another rip off artist; I should have known before I did a lot of hours work on pictures that need "original images" to enjoy the detail.
"ColleenM pro says:
As long as everyone realizes that with a free account, even the photographer cannot access the original size.
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You might want to find out the basics before publicly imploding. Free members can't see their OWN "original" sizes. They can see YOURS just fine, if you allow them...
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What good is my gallery (defined as images plus titles, and comments) if a free member cannot see "original images"? Public viewing of my gallery is primary idea for me. Maybe, I wasted $25.
Members with free accounts (and logged out users if you allow that) can see your originals if you have a pro account. What Colleen is referring ot is a limit applied to free accounts on stuff that they upload to their accounts :)
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pabear: Yes you should have known. Maybe if you read the rules and instructions before giving your money to them, you'd understand what Flickr does and does not do. Instead you're just getting angry and ranting a bit, about something that's actually not at all true.
As it is, any family-friendly public image you post on Flickr, is available to the entire internets, including your original sizes. But you might want to catch up on how Flickr works, before something else surprises you.
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Wow, that took forever (and 2 addition replies/requests) but I have my free Flickr account back :)
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The flickr quick links app had an IE7 bug preventing it from working.
I can only appologise for any confusion or frustration this may have caused, at the time I put the app online I was using IE6 / FF3 /Flock 2 and it worked fine in those.
Anyway, if anyone still needs it, or wants to try it out, its at
www.urspark.com/fql.php
To display large size links the original upload must be >1280 pix on the larger side (as far as i know)
If anyone has any issues using the app, please contact me and let me know so I can look into it :)
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I still don't get why I can't choose to let people view my 'large' images. It's either Original size (all sizes) or none... I just want people to see sizes up to 'large'.
But this isn't what the application Louise is talking about is used for, right?
I definately want to keep my pro account, but can't Flickr add these options for us paying users??
Or am I missing something....?
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yes that is what the app lets you do..
You can hide all sizes and set your pics to ARR then add the link to large AND/OR original size for specific pictures or sets of pictures.
Obviousely it would be better for flickr to enable this directly, but it is a workaround until they start listening to people ;)
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I wrestled with this issue of access as well when deciding on the Pro account... what I finally decided (or came to realize) is that basically anything you post to the web can, and probably will, be able to be accessed by others, even without your permission. It would be nice if Flickr gave Pro users more control over what size was made publicly available. But they don't. The thing is, from what I've heard people can still access all sizes of any image that they can see at least one size of, if they monkey with the URL in the right way. So what I've done (which also makes uploads faster) is just to batch resize all my images before uploading. I just created an action in photoshop that resizes them and saved that to a droplet (which appears as an executable file icon). I just put all the images I want to upload into one folder, drag that onto the droplet icon, and photoshop opens and resizes and saves copies of all those images for me. Then I post those. Sure it's a couple extra steps, but maybe not much more than waiting for the much larger files to upload anyway. But hey, do what feels right for you.
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Not entirely true.
You can monkey with the url to get other sizes, except the original size. The original has a different 'magic' number which cannot be guessed, so if you hide all sizes and set your photos to ARR no one except you can access the original size.
If you want to override this for specific pictures, then YOU can create links to the original size and include them in your photo description, which is what my Flickr Quick Links app does.
My latest play with this area of flickr deficiency is View On Black links, which you can paste into the description to view med/ large/ original on a black background, but this will not over ride the original protection so original size will only show if you have your flickr account set to allow it.
more info on my flickr hacks at
www.urspark.com/louiseapps.html
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basically anything you post to the web can, and probably will, be able to be accessed by other
except if you make them completely private and don't post them in any group, and don't issue any guest-passes.
in that case, unless someone gets access to your yahoo password, they cannot access those other than by guessing a very hard to guess URL that contains a long pseudo-random string.
i upload hi-res version of all my photos and set them "private", i.e. i use flickr as a secondary backup for my photos.
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