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Provide a default pattern for noobs and IGooglize the damn thing for super users. Customization is not evil.
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I absolutely hate the combination of comments on my pictures and my comments on other pictures.
They are two entirely different things and right now with the new page the only way I see of switching between is to change the "activity settings" back and forth.
You need something like the original "activity on my photostream" and "comments you've made" links.
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Combining recent activity on your photos with activity on photos you've commented on is horrible...
It would be marginally better if there was actually some way to clearly show which ones are activity on your photos and which are activity on other people's photos but I think, on balance, combining them is still a bad idea!
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After a few days, I've decided I don't mind the comments being mixed. I like seeing it all in one place, without switching back and forth, like the old way. I realize I'm in the minority, though. :)
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I don't know if you need a 900th opinion on this, but I really don't like the mixed activity list either.
For me, it also renders the "New" indicator moot, because there's virtually always some new comment on one of the many pictures I've ever commented on, so it's always "on".
(I know that I can exclude them from the list... but I don't want to do that either. I just want them übersichtlich. Damn, there's no good English word for that!)
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I have to agree about the mixed activity. I liked it when they were separate.
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>Being able to choose this as an option would be much better.
The option is there, under Activity settings
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>I realize I'm in the minority, though. :)
Not necessarily. Objections are always voiced louder than support. A few hundred people out of 18 million have said they don't like it.
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An oddness (sorry if this has been covered above) - I'm one of the ones who hates having "comments you've made" lumped in with recent activity on my stuff. So of course I turned that off. But I *do* look at comments I've made often, so I went looking for the link. From the homepage it's not on the "You" menu... but after going to "Your account", it is. Presumably that'll be cleaned up later. But it ought to be on the "You" menu all the time, or certainly when preferenced-out of the main activity panel.
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Dito kierant. That would solve it for me.
Patrick Costello, do you think that 18 million have tried the new home page already? I don't know, just asking.
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That's the old link, which will disappear. The new link is simply "Around You" and contains both sets. You just need to click within the Activity Settings to bring up the view you want at any time. So you can decide to view one set, the other or both, depending on what you are interested in at that time. All without having to navigate away from the page. I think it's a big improvement.
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Don't change the recent activity to a mixture of photos. Split them up into yours and thiers!!!! It is important to all of us!
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No - but you can't second guess their opinion either. Just because a few hundred have complained, it does not mean those of us who like the changes are necessarily in the minority. There were absolutely thousands of objectors to the introduction of video. But apparently we were still in the minority.
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>It is important to all of us!
Errr - no it's not.
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Patrick Costello, you say there is an option where you can choose to have everything mixed up or separated. Where did you find it? I don´t see anything like that
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I just found it. There is no option to split them in two. The option they give you is to have the "comments you´ve made" or not. I want to have them, only separated.
What about let each one choose? This way Patrick Costello could choose to have everything mixed up and the rest of us can have it separated.
I'm sure that when everyone tries the new version there will be thousands of objectors
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But Patrick! A clear majority of those who have made their voice heard have had one specific complaint. That seems pretty certain to me scrolling through this thread. It seems more fair to acknowledge that than to weigh them against 18 million we know nothing about.
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But the Activity Settings will allow you to display whatever you want to see. It's designed to be dynamic. If I select only comments I've made, that's what I see. If I select only comments on my pics, that's what I see. If I select both, that's what I see. And I can change it whenever I like.
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I am sure the vast majority of Flickr users are unaware of this new page coming out. I only stumbled upon it by accident when I was checking the forum for something else when I found this thread.
For sure this is why Flickr are allowing us to see this test version before it goes completely live, and iron out any bugs or unpopular changes. You can bet if this went live like this the thread would be vast!
I am trusting that Flickr will change this as so many of us hate the new recent activity change. Although it can be changed I think the majority of us preferred the easier to navigate old style. I am just hoping it will be modified to a cleaner, simpler style, or I will get used to it, but have to say, apart from the great addition of "muting" photos commented on, I can't see what's new other than cluttering a perfectly good exisiting homepage. Stats etc were all previously available in a less obtrusive way.
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My point is that those who don't like something are more inclined to make a complaint. How often do you visit a forum to say "all is well with me today - no problems, thanks".
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I have been using the new home page for a few days now and I find my way around alright. I just cannot see the point of not having a simple and avaliable switch between activity on my own photos and comment I made on others photos.
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Well of course they are, that's the whole point of feedback isn't it! And all the feedback have concentrated on this one issue.
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I think in this instance the issues in this thread probably are representative of the widely held view, as this thread specifically invites feedback and it seems that most people, if they like the new style or not, do not like the mixed activity default.
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That's kind of the point - how do you know how many users have tried it? You seem to be assuming that the majority of people posting in this thread represent all those who've tried it. Not the case - just means that the majority of people posting in this thread don't like it.
Could well be that there are a few hundred thousand who've tried it, and aren't fussed - as Patrick points out (and as a casual glance through threads will show) people most often post here when they don't like something.
People who don't like the change are more inclined to post here than those who like it, or are indifferent.
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The point is that there is one single topic that people are dissatisfied with. That's not an assumption, it's fact.
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doesn't matter how widely held (or not) the view is.
flickr heard the message way back on about page one.
everything after that is just noise.
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Generally I would totally agree, but I was just observing that in this case, the thread is inviting feedback, positive or otherwise. I have no idea how many have tried, of course I haven't, but guess from the way that some of us only found out about this from this thread that most would report back with their thoughts. It isn't a complaint thread. Just my thoughts and feedback, not making assumptions. But yes, usually we will be far more vocal when a change happens that we don't like.
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Hans, if you believe that "there is one single topic that people are dissatisfied with", then you are assuming - read through the thread again.
There's a whole stack of other things people aren't happy with - layout, centering, dropping the "new" banner, the rotating "Explore" / "Everyone's Uploads / Groups" display, the Stats display, etc. The "comments / activity" issue is just at the top of the list...
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Alright, I'll give you that. But why use the word "just" before "top of the list".
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I dont like it at all
I find that when I pass a comment on a picture; I then get everybody elses comments on those; in amongst the comments on my pictures
Too confusing for a mere BA(first class Hons), HNC, Full Tech Cert, Ex Snr Lecturer in Industrial Control and Instrumentation
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Cumbrian Lad - I don't like it, either. Yet, I dropped out of school after four years, and still had no trouble muting the "comments you've made" bit on the right-hand side of this page: www.flickr.com/activity/. Took two mouse clicks. Go figure...
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Muting everything but the "comments you've made" takes a few more clicks though. If I'm wrong I'd be happy to learn otherwise.
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Cumbrian Lad only mentioned "comments you made", so the quoted figure is correct. If he wants to mute anything else, his level of education will surely see him prevail...
Mind you, anyone who isn't prepared to make a few mouse clicks to resolve an issue they claim to be so vital, probably isn't worthy of consideration in the first place...
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I'm not questioning the figures. Just pointing out that they didn't give the whole picture.
And that second part. Do you really think so?
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They gave the whole picture in relation to the specific query to which they were addressed. Your mileage may vary.
The second bit? Yep.. See, someone's either genuinely interested in getting rid of the "comments you've made" bit, or just feels like bitching.
The first person will at least try the advice which is offered.
The second will just keep complaining. No point even attempting to help them - pretty much doesn't matter what anyone says or does, they'll just keep whining. Won't accept any potential solution, they'll just keep petulantly stamping their foot and refusing to even attempt the steps which may well resolve their issue.
The first person wins...
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Looking good!
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so flickr, what's the plan for notification of new testimonials?
the flag used to sit on the home page until you noticed it...where is it now, just part of recent activity?
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Dr. Keats,
It seem to me that most people that are complaining isn't interested in "getting rid of" anything, they just seem to prefer beeing able to switch between two pages with one click in each direction rather than two in one direction and 8-9 in the other. That's a pretty valid point I think. Wouldn't call it whining.
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I really like the "most views" thing. Very neat, and confirms my suspicions that people view really weird things on my photostream.
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Hans - I prefer it, too, and think that Flickr should restore the button. I haven't said otherwise. With any luck, they'll take the hint, and make the tweak.
However, if it's vitally important that I be able to see "comments you've made", I still can. Takes a little longer, is all. If I refuse to do it, stamp my foot and say "But now it's too hard", that's whining...
Cumbrian Lad, however, did want to get rid of "comments you've made", and was advised how...
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Haha, Dr. Keats, I think we agree on most things after all :-)
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Dr Keats, I believe the original point of Hans's was that while you can't project the opinion of a sample as skewed as this thread to the whole of Flickr users, it's still statistically valid to look at the number of complaints about the mixed activity table vs. the number of complaints about anything else.
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Actually - I believe there are two camps. One set just don't want to see the comments they've made activity. And as Dr K says there is an easy solution for them.
Other people, will continue to want to see both. And I accept that it's more work if you switch between the two views under the new scheme.
But maybe, with the help of the muting button, the new view will grow on you? :-)
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That is my point bookhouse boy!
Patrick, the mute fuction is fine, a great improvement per se. But in most cases I don't want to mute the comments I made, I just want to deal with them separatly from the comment on my own pictures, and I'd like to be able to switch between them without too much hassle. I would be surprised if Flickr wont "take the hint, and make the tweak" as Dr. K so eloquently put it :-)
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bit busy on first glance. like all things, will adjust, but jsut seems very cluttered
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Patrick, et al: the problem with having all activity together is that it becomes very cluttered. I sometimes comment on popular photos, and I'm tempted to delete my comments now, because I don't want to read lots of other praise of somebody's work every time I look at activity on my own!
The problem would be improved if there were just summaries of the comments on other people's work (like "three new comments") rather than a chunk of the comments themselves. But best of all remains the option to remove other comments without losing easy access to a link to them.
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Some additional work certainly needs to be done on the "Recent Activity" issue... I do like the new layout! Thank you very much!!!
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>I'm tempted to delete my comments now, because I don't want to read lots of other praise of somebody's work every time I look at activity on my own!
That's why there's a mute option now. It's not a new problem, but there is a new solution!
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If anyone is keeping tabs on this ..... I vote against combining comments made and comments received.
Keep 'em separated!
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Is there a way to turn off comments I have made on other people's photos, when all I really want to see are the comments made recently on my own photostream?
The new set-up has made me very inefficient at following the postings to my photos.
Thanks.
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But there is a new problem Patrick, namely the merging of "comments on my pictures" and "comment I made". Why are you denying that?
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Imagine all those cool new features (mute button, explore pics etc) in the current home page as it is with separate comments activities. Wow, that would be a great "new" home page.
Flickr you could simply enhance the good old home page instead of delivering this poorly prepared page and you would hear only praise.
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Instead of "rearranging the furniture" we've had some walls knocked through, and the intstallation of a new tv showing all the wrong channels and the remote has been left in the wrong place ;))
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I was responding to kierant who was going to delete his comments to avoid seeing the same old picture appearing in comments he has made. That isn't a new problem. If you configure your Activity Settings to see the comments you have made, then at least you can mute the pictures that subsequently attract 100 sparkly GIFs. If you don't want to see any comments you've made, then it's easy to turn them off completely.
I've already accepted that if you want things to work exactly as before and switch between the two sets of activity, then there is additional work to do. I'm happy to use the site a bit differently than before, so it isn't a problem for me.
I'm not suggesting people aren't free to complain if they don't like the changes, I'm just trying to point out the new options available to them. I'm pretty sure there's a subset of the unhappy people here who just haven't realised you can just turn off comments you've made. See the post above yours.
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Liking it so far, but can I just voice one gripe please...?
I REALLY dislike looking at the 'recent activity's section on the home page and seeing activity on other people's photos I've previously commented on rather than just on my own... can there be an option to switch to only viewing activity on your own photos in the 'recent activity' section?
(OR, if I'm being a dunce and that facility already exists can someone please tell me where to get to it please? Heh.)
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*EDIT* Ahhh, I've now read through some of this thread and worked out how to 'mute' it thanks to other people's posts, ta!
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But I do want to see the comments I made. I just don't want them merged with the comments on my own pictures. Many find this to be a problem, and that is a new problem. Why belittle this issue?
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I like the remodel! And I am in the camp of people liking the mixed comments better than the separation. Several others, like ~Jelly~ right above, say they don't want to see what they've "previously commented on" - that sounds like they're done with one comment. Case closed.
I view it quite differently: To me, a lot of the comment threads are conversations back and forth, and I am happy to see how they keep going. Whether the conversation takes place on a photo that I have taken, or someone else's, makes no difference to me whatsoever.
Also, I really like getting to see "Explore" pictures, and images from my groups.
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I'm not belittling any issues. I am responding to people who have different issues than you. Again, see the post above yours.
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I love it!
It saves me some clicks and everything is right there for me to see!
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Don't like it! D= Is there any way I can change it back to how it was since it's just a neak preview?
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Patrick, you are helping many people that in fact have missed some of the finer points in the remodelling. I can see that. That's great!
But you are belittleing the issue that I'm talking about. I'm not saying you're responsible for it. But the fact that it's not a problem for you is no help for those who are not ok with it.
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I think the old design was more sleek somehow and I find the new one a bit distractive actually. I wish it has LOTS of customizing options, and if it hasn´t I hereby suggest that flickr make some available.
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HEY PEOPLE!
To change your RECENT ACTIVITY option to just comments in your photostream go to YOU then go down to RECENT ACTIVITY. in the RIGHT SIDE of the SCREEN there's an OPTION for SHOW COMMENTS YOU'VE MADE! UNCHECK IT!
Then voila..
go to home page and there you go... it's only your activity!''
ps Flickr.
you rock and I love you!
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I like it. Clean, but has lots of details. Loved the intro to the new page :)
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It looks good to me, but I I really don't want to see the "photos I've commented on" mixed up with the activity on my photos.
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Jon Bradley I followed your instructions and couldn't find my way there.
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Click this link, and make the changes
www.flickr.com/activity/
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And if you want to see the comments that you made you have to check again the stupid boxes and go back to your home page and voila!
And if after a couple of hours you want to see again the recent activity on your photos only, you have to go again to the stupid boxes and uncheck. And check and uncheck to infinity.
It's just not practical and a big step backwards to the perfect, simple actual home page imho.
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In the box which pops up if you want to sneak a peek at your new home page, it's a shame the link to the Flickr Blog doesn't link to the permalink for that post. It's a bit of a scroll away and will drop off the bottom soon.
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hate 'comments you made' being lumped with comments ive received. hate it hate it hate it. i love change, but this feature frustrates me to no end!!
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I've switched back now, the animated gif brigade swamped up the front page, and most of the "more" section so I missed out on loads of comments.
Muting isn't a solution - it's a workaround. A key difference.
And as soon as you comment on another picture that becomes popular and populated with gifs the problem comes back.
Also, I don't want to not view what I've commented on! Another workaround that isn't a solution - It's like cutting off an arm because I can't see my legs.
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So far, I like it.
I am at work though and have not tested it thoroughly yet.
Will post again after testing...
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A public THANKS to Jon Bradley for his assistance in customizing my "Recent Activity." I didn't even realize the option to turn off my comments on other people's photostreams even existed.
I am a happy camper again.
Thanks, Jon!
And thanks, Flickr. Love the site!
Sheree
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i would liek to come back :/
to the old one by now :/ i didnt get the new one
pls someone help me :/
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flickr.com/publicbeta/homepage/
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Most of us want to see both but not at the same time. What you refer to is not a solution, it's eliminating one activity for the benefit of the other.
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understanding that you can't please everyone, a question...
once the change is implemented across the board, will
www.flickr.com/photos_comments.gne
still be available if we were to bookmark it? it is a workaround, true.
thank you, in any case.
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@dbthayer: ♥ shhexycorin ♥ also alerted that to us to he problem with the testimonial notification as well; we're going to be revisiting that soon. Thanks! :)
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Still nice and simple. Awesome!
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I've not read everyone's comments, of course, but here's what I think all the same...
- I like the instant view of photos recently added to my groups, but I'd prefer to see one or two photos per group (as I've set to show for my contacts on my old style homepage) rather than a load from one (randomly selected?) group.
- Like the general layout, but perhaps the 'Explore' bit could be moved up and right to sit where the current 'Flickr blog' photos are, to save quite so much up-and-down scrolling?
- I agree with the comments I've seen about the comments on my photos being lumped in with comments I've made on other people's. If I see a link titled 'recent activity' in a section titled 'Your [My] Photostream', I expect it to refer to recent activity on my photostream, not on other people's. Having these both combined is by a long way the thing I dislike most about the homepage...
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TOTALLY agree that I would rather see the explore stuff on the right. Absolutely a fantastic suggestion.
Also, I know this has been mentioned, but once I mute the "so-and-so added you as a contact" out of my recent activity stream, I would so love for that email to then become "read." I feel like I have to address this issue twice now. I have to mute it, THEN go to flickrmail and open it to get it to go away. It's redundant.
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Another way to handle it is to only look at the new contact information when you get Flickr mail. You can set the activity page not to show you 'new contacts' when they are made.
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thanks Kevin.
of course email notification for testimonials would also be helpful... ;-)
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can i specify which group only to monitor?
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No, there's no way to hide a group.
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@Artwerk..
perhaps I'm talking to the people that dont give a rats about activity on others photos...and by reading the comments in here, I think I can justify myself by saying that there are quite a few.
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Flickr does not need to guess at what percentage of us like or don't like the merged activity section.
Flickr can count how many accounts switch to the new home page. They can count how many accounts that switch also make comments in this thread. It's pretty simple for them to calculate how many people make the switch and don't have any complaints. And its equally simple for them to figure out what percentage of the people are complaining.
I suspect the reason video came to stay is that they had data proving that far more people were using video without complaint than the number who were here in the Help Forum expressing their indignation.
If you just look at the Feedback thread, you would expect that Flickr would have collapsed from losing so many unhappy customers when video was introduced. But that's not what actually happened.
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i really love the new 'recent activity' page, now i don't have to waste time to read activities on my photos and then on photo i commented on seperately.
and the Mute button is fantastic :)
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An update to Jon Bradley's instructions - on the right side of the page click on "Activity Settings" (which was collapsed for me) before you can select the different options on recent activity.
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Ok, now that I've used it for a few minutes, I absolutely love the changes.
The changes are very functional, and I really love the new ability to filter the recent activity, including when people marked me as a contact, and being able to quickly reciprocate all of them is so nice. I just reciprocated over 100 contact requests in a matter of minutes. So I'm very thankful for that.
One suggestion: If I reciprocate adding someone as a contact who added me as a contact first, it would be nice to have the flickr mail that was delivered notifying me that they marked me as a contact automatically deleted.
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Josh Sommers edited this topic 45 months ago.
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ColleenM:
video was here to stay when they made the development investment. what any of us had to say after the rollout (other than bug reports) was irrelevant.
and I hope they are planning to separate recent activity again too.
but if they do, pretty sure it won't be because a few hundred/thousand users demanded it--it will be because it meets their own goals and schedule.
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Hey Guys, read this!
If you go to the full recent activity page you can setup what is shown there in the Activity Settings menu on the top right, and what you setup there translates to the homepage, so if you set that up to show just comments on your photos, that is all you will see on your homepage.
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Hi Flickrites,
Just wanted to post my 2 cents' worth about the new page -
LOVE that it has everything close at hand! But.....
DON'T LOVE the way that everyone's activity is all jumbled together! Is there a way that you can sort out comments and things on my photos? I have a limited time in the a.m. to thank people for commenting and I can't really sort through everyone's comments! Does anyone feel the same?
Thanks for listening! :)
*Mel's ATCs*
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I hate the combination of comments on my pictures and my comments on other pictures. They are two totally different things and should remain as such.
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Yeah just like what ~fatkitty~ said.
I quite like the format except I would like a button that would allow us to see activity on our stuff and activity on other peoples stuff separately.
It just seems easier to review the comments on your own work separately to the other comments and notes on other people's items.
I like the mute activity option too, but it doesn't solve this issue entirely.
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Joriel "Joz" Jimenez edited this topic 45 months ago.
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Here's my feedback for the new home page!
Wonderful work with displaying 5 images form my photostream.
I love the activity next to your photostream. I just fell for this one :) amazing feature
10 from my contacts; this is great, specially when you have more then 100 contacts.
Finally groups get to display pictures!
Can I have a snapshot of the groups that I administer. I get annoyed when I have to go and monitor my groups and the only way possible is after clicking Groups > My Group link - 2 clicks to see whats going on? Bad usability.
I love the Explore / Groups section at the bottom, a bit of help if there is a way you can explain what this section is about?
Have noticed on a lot of websites, moving all the action items on the right...!
Good usability feature this one, since about 84% of the users keep their mouse pointers on the right... :)
Would like to see more action items from here! Cant think of any at this moment, will get back to you once i have it with me :D
Hope the feedback helps!
- Vandan (UX redefined)
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I like it except for the comments thing...that's so not what I want from Flickr...please keep the comments separated. Please.
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That's kind of the point - how do you know how many users have tried it?
Indeed. And on top of that, we do not have any idea how many users are there who do not even know that a change is going to come and that they can have a sneak peek on it already?
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>Being able to choose this as an option would be much better.
>I realize I'm in the minority, though. :) 
That's the old link, which will disappear. The new link is simply "Around You" and contains both sets. You just need to click within the Activity Settings to bring up the view you want at any time. So you can decide to view one set, the other or both, depending on what you are interested in at that time. All without having to navigate away from the page. I think it's a big improvement.
No - but you can't second guess their opinion either. Just because a few hundred have complained, it does not mean those of us who like the changes are necessarily in the minority. There were absolutely thousands of objectors to the introduction of video. But apparently we were still in the minority.
>It is important to all of us! 
But the Activity Settings will allow you to display whatever you want to see. It's designed to be dynamic. If I select only comments I've made, that's what I see. If I select only comments on my pics, that's what I see. If I select both, that's what I see. And I can change it whenever I like.
Totally agree! :)))))
You can revert back to the old one with this link:
Most of us want to see both but not at the same time. What you refer to is not a solution, it's eliminating one activity for the benefit of the other.
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