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If I recall correctly, the queued changes are run off-line in batches. If your changes go into the queue, it won't matter how "small" they were.
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 is correct. Tag change is an offline task and it can take a while for everything to synch itself up.
So keep an eye on them and if the changes are not updating by tomorrow, bump this up and I can report it.
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Still hasn't gone through, nor has the third attempt from this morning. That's three attempts about 12 hours apart. The fourth from a few minutes ago hasn't worked yet either.
Did something change in the way Flickr's plain HTML pages work yesterday? The photo edit page (photo_edit.gne) also changed; the text boxes got very narrow.
Posted 19 months ago.
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Hi there,
We has a CSS issue with that page earlier that has since been resolved - if that page still looks weird to you, can you please clear your browser's cache and try again?
Which tags are you trying to edit and what edits are you trying to make? That info can help us look into the issue. Thanks!
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Edit page looks normal again.
For the tag edit, I load
www.flickr.com/photos/31715949@N00/tags/tag20101108a/edit/
and edit the original text
"tag 20101108a"
to read
"tag 20101108a" Pholcidae Spermophora "Spermophora senoculata"
and submit. (The added words are the scientific name of the spider to which I attached the original tag as a unique identifier.)
Note that I have a very large total number of tags on my photostream. This causes performance problems, as discussed here: www.flickr.com/help/forum/72157624556435995/ . It may or may not be related to my current problem.
Posted 19 months ago.
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Hey there,
So, our offline task system decided to be belligerent - we're just now coaxing it out of its fit, so things should be looking better with that particular task soon. We'll keep an eye on it, anyway, so thank for your patience until all these tags are fixed up.
Posted 19 months ago.
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Ignore the square brackets. If you had [tag 20101108a] as the tag and then edited the tag and entered ["tag 20101108a" Pholcidae Spermophora "Spermophora senoculata"], you will not actually change the tag. That will leave the original tag alone and add 3 new tags wherever you already had the tag [tag 20101108a]. Quotes are used to group tags, and have special meaning when editing tags.
You can use single quotes inside double quotes and submit this:
["'tag 20101108a' Pholcidae Spermophora 'Spermophora senoculata'"]
But maybe I misunderstood your problem.
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Still no luck. Yesterday's edits never went through and after a half hour the ones I made tonight didn't happen. A tag edit of something attached to only 4 photos (non batch) worked fine.
henrylyne -- I should have said adding tags instead of changing tags. I think of them as the same (A => A B C feels like changing A) even if the magic donkeys see them differently.
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Now it is still not working and some tag operations are also timing out. The first tag edit I did this evening gave me a blank screen a few times. After that I tried loading my alltags page to warm up the servers. First time I got a 504 error, second time it loaded and after that the tag edit just didn't work instead of giving me a blank page.
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I found this through a Google search of "flickr tags not changing" because I'm having the same problem two weeks later. I just spent a couple of hours on Flickr last night working to lowercase a lot of tags that Aperture had exported in title case (I've spent hours and hours to fix tags in Aperture, but that's another story). Some of the tags on Flickr had both title case and lowercase versions, and in those I changed it to the lowercase version. I know that this has worked in the past, but it's been about 24 hours now and I haven't seen any change, even in tags that are only attached to three or four photos.
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HI Daniel,
Actually, that's by design. On the backend, the tags Apple and apple are the same term, so trying to batch change them isn't going to work (since it thinks it's the same thing and won't make the change.
You might try deleting the tag altogether and then waiting a bit to ensure the offline task has run, then re-tagging with the case you want to be displayed on the photo page.
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Really? But it gives you the option to use the lowercase or title case version, if that's what you've entered at various time in the past. Why would it give you the chance to change to the version of your choice if it weren't going to make the change for you? I'm pretty sure I've done this type of change in the past and it worked. Are you sure about this?
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"Why would it give you the chance to change to the version of your choice if it weren't going to make the change for you? "
The choice is how it's displayed on the photopage. The tag itself will always be lowercase, without spaces or punctuation.
On my photopages, you'll see the tag:
Killeen, Texas
But no matter how I type it, it will always be the same tag: killeentexas
It's just displayed the way I like it.
"it's been about 24 hours now and I haven't seen any change"
That happens often when making batch-edits to tags. Sometimes, trying it again the next day will work. But it's faster to do as zyrcster suggests (if you're dealing with only a few tags): delete the incorrect form and replace it with the form you want.
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I understand that the tags shown in the 150 top tags are always lowercase, and I understand that to Flick tags with the same letters resolve to the same tag on a database level regardless of capitalization and punctuation— and thank God for that, because I have a mess of tags in Aperture!
Nevertheless, the way the tag editing is supposed to work on www.flickr.com/photos/danielgreene/tags/accessibility/edit/, for example, is that if you tagged some photos with the keyword Accessibility and you want all instances of that keyword to be accessibility, Flickr will show you Accessibility in the text entry field and below that, if will offer "Or, use a different format: accessibility". If you click on that lowercase version, it populates the text entry field. When you Save, it should make every single instance of that tag lowercase, and you should no longer see any version but the lowercase one listed on the All Tags page— or, needless to say, on any of the photo pages with photos tagged with that keyword.
Flickr tag editing is simply not working as it should, and that needs to be acknowledged and fixed.
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 Good point about the "Use a different format" suggestion. If it doesn't, in fact, change the capitalization of the tags, then it shouldn't be offering that option. If the option to change the case is explicitly offered, it should do that.
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Hi Daniel Greene,
My apologies - I'd actually not seen that option yet (and it looks like it appears if you've entered both the upper and lower case version of the tag).
Batch tag edits are run as offline tasks, but I'm not sure about these case changes (and have verified that it's not working just now if it's not an offline task). I'll file a bug, but we're on a holiday schedule until next week, so the devs will get a chance to look at it no earlier than then.
Sorry and thanks for the report!
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That's okay, Criz. Bugs happen. Glad you understand what I'm talking about now and will file a bug report. And I understand about the holiday schedule—Happy Thanksgiving!
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Tag change for more than ~6 photos at a time has continued not to work for me since I first reported the problem. Does batch tag changing via form (not organizr) work for anybody these days if it goes into the queue? Is it just me?
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I just tried it again just now and I didn't even see a change when I batch changed the same tag with differently capitalized formats on only four photos.
Posted 18 months ago.
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Hi there,
We do have a bug report in for batch tag updates not working, so thanks - we're hoping to resolve it soon.
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I was redirected from the other topic... (Thanks, Criz.)
Hope to see an update soon. :-)
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same here!
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Hi folks,
We think we fixed this, so please do let us know if you still see problems changing tags in batches.
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Thanks for the note, Criz.
The previous changes I attempted never showed up, but I'm doing my test batch again to check. :-)
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It worked! :-)
(In under a minute.)
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thanks!
i'll let you know how it goes.
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Worked for me 1 out of 1 tries this afternoon.
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I tried to change just a few tags attached to just a few photos. I gave it all night. They didn't change. This problem is not resolved.
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Daniel Greene edited this topic 18 months ago.
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Just tested this myself, and I updated a few tags, with the changes appearing correctly after a few minutes. Thank you for the fix.
Posted 18 months ago.
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Hi Daniel Greene,
Instead of posting screenshots, can you please just let us know which tags you tried to change and what you tried to change them to? That's what we need, so we can take a look when you post that info. Thanks!
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The very tags shown in the screenshot: acacia, accessibility, action, and actor (all those showing except acmenollmeyer). As I said before, I tried to change them to their lowercase versions. That was all I tried to change, and it didn't work. In fact, another five hours later it still hasn't worked. Please don't be too quick to deny this problem or claim it resolved.
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In fact, I just tried changing Ablutions to ablutions in the all tags page, and it didn't even change that tag, which is only attached to one photo. Believe me, this used to work.
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Thanks Daniel,
We have a bug report in for the lowercase changes you mentioned to us earlier, however that bug is still outstanding so yes, it's still broken but that's not the same bug as batch changes not working globally.
When we have an update on the upper/lower case part of this issue, we'll be sure to provide you with an update.
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Oh, okay, thanks. Is there a separate thread for case changing issue? I would like to keep tabs on it so I know when it's been resolved.
Posted 18 months ago.
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Hi Daniel,
The problem was reported by you in this same thread:
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157625351179240/#reply7...
We will provide updates in this topic when the bug get fix.
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OK, I am now noticing that a tag I changed earlier today has reverted to its old state, as least when I select it from my tags list.
"35mmf18" was changed to "35mm f/1.8", but is still "35mmf18" in my list of tags to choose from on my photo page.
On my big list of tags, "35mmf18" is listed, and when I click "Edit", it's displayed as "35mm f/1.8".
I am confused.
Posted 18 months ago.
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Hi there,
The Tag "35mm f/1.8" is the same as ""35mmf18" as far as we're concerned because we ignore some characters like "." and " /".
For example, "f/1.8" and "f18" is the same tag in our database, not two distinctive tags.
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"my list of tags to choose from on my photo page."
My understanding is that the "choose from you other tags" list on the photopage will always present the tags in their simplest form ("35mmf18"), even if that tag was previously entered in a formatted form ("35mm f/1.8").
I've found it easier to use a separate app for stuff like this -- search for "Texter" on LifeHacker's site. It allows you to set up a text replacement list.
Now, I only have to type "1020" and Texter replaces it with Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM (for example).
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"is the same as ... as far as we're concerned"
As far as tag searches go, yes Flickr treats them the same. But Flickr has always given us the choice to display them one way or the other, so there is *some* difference, somewhere. :-)
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OK, thanks for the info. So I cannot display a tag on a photo as "35mm f/1.8" without using a separate app as Wil suggests?
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OK, thanks for the info. So I cannot display a tag on a photo as "35mm f/1.8" without using a separate app as Wil suggests?
you can display a tag on a photo as "35mm f/1.8".
but if you already have this tag (formatted differently, but internally the same tag e.g. "35mm f1.8" or "35mmf18", then you need to remove the tag first. then add the tag "35mm f/1.8" and it will display the way you want.
note that this has no effect on tag search, since flickr makes no difference (when doing tag search) between "35mm f/1.8" and "35mmf18", since internally, all punctuations are ignored in tags.
however, this is not the topic of this thread, so please continue the discussion in your other thread (do not hijack threads!).
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 No worries.
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eMiLy:
Since this is the only thread in which the problem of case not changing is reported, and since changing the case of tags is a problem of "batch tag update not working", and since the problem is unresolved, then the title of this thread should never have been marked "[resolved]."
The screenshot I posted above has had 5,717 views in the past 5 days, so maybe I'm not the only one experiencing this problem.
Daniel
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OK, thanks for the info. So I cannot display a tag on a photo as "35mm f/1.8" without using a separate app as Wil suggests?
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