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[Official Topic] Video on Flickr -- Feedback

Flickr Staff

heather says:

If you were wondering when "soon" was, it's now. You can read the announcement in FlickrBlog.

Our pro members can upload video of up to 90 seconds into their photostream. If you've feedback, this topic's for you (if you need help, head over to this topic).

The video FAQs are a great place to start for more info.

April 10th, 2:25 PDT: Please see our response to frequent feedback in this topic.

April 12th, 2:42 PDT: More staff comment here.

April 14th, 3ish PDT: And more here.

April 17th, 12:04 PDT: And here.

April 18th, 8:20 PDT: And.
Posted at 6:02PM, 8 April 2008 PDT ( permalink )
Eric (staff) edited this topic 50 months ago.

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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

zyrcster: I would imagine the Donkey would have to be schooled in picking "interesting" videos. It wouldn't be just from the visible frame, it would somehow have to incorporate the whole of the video. Donkey's not gonna get much sleep, I think.

RubyMae: like I said, I can punt on Explore. But the inequality with search defaults, will forever be an issue. They now "allow" artwork, since there are filters for them. So there's no reason the search can't default to show art, and let people choose to turn it off. Just looking for a little equality, in this new multimedia web site they've got here.

And if it isn't "video", they probably shouldn't call it "video" everywhere.
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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

I am against this. I can forsee flickr comment spam wars, stupid videos a la Youtube and flickr slowly going downhill.

I love flickr, primarily because of the community. I feel yahoo! is doing this, not for the user, but for the business.

What is to stop flickr having tons of porn etc.?

www.flickr.com/groups/flickr-forum/

A place for debate on all the issues that flickr does that irritate you.

Not a flickr hate group but just a place to air views. All are welcome.


One last thing... Explore is a joke.
If flickr really wanted to showcase users photography, which is what this place was meant to be, a photo gallery, they would begin changing the hackneyed images on the front page.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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illinichick357  Pro User  says:

zyrcster Despite my protest to video on whole. The SOE one is great!!!
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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The Lawgiver  Pro User  says:

Can you imagine the copyright violations that are going to stack up with the videos?

There's already enough copyright infringement of major media that is flooding Flickr. Just do a search for any TV/Movie star and look at all the copyrighted, unedited photos show up.

The networks are going to be all over this.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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AMDM - photography says:



Your probably right :-)
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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jacqueline-w says:

Well, I'm excited to see what flickerites can do with 90 seconds, but entirely confused as to the meaning of: "Your “beautiful wife” should not be moving." Given context I think I more or less know what they mean, but it doesn't make any more sense to me than "We don't need to see the green on your turtle" would.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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tavopp  Pro User  says:

they should change the logo
"flickr loves you" to "flickr loves 90 sec porn movies"
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

;-)

I promise I won't be deluging my contacts with video. But I also happen to love the concept, especially the 90 second part.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

"What is to stop flickr having tons of porn etc.?"

porn videos aren't allowed (geez people, read the FAQ already). So it isn't even a matter of proper filtering, they just get booted period. And as seems to get often overlooked, you need a "Pro" account to upload video.

Almost ALL of the accounts with stolen content, are free accounts. Threat of losing your cash will keep the kids out, I'll bet.
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The Searcher edited this topic 50 months ago.

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

CELESTPROF Copyright violations will be handled as they are now with the massive copyright abuse that photos have: through Report Abuse and through filing Notices of Infringement. it's no different than photos.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

tavopp "flickr loves 90 sec porn movies"

Flickr does not allow Restricted content on videos. So, there shouldn't be any porn vids, and if there are, one can Report Abuse on them.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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elementalPaul  Pro User  says:

I predict lots of videos of the sky falling in, possibly featuring little chickens. ;-)

Or possibly not as the users mostly likely to be bothered by the introduction of video to Flickr are the ones least likely to express their contempt through the medium of video!
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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hrw worcester says:

1. PLEASE do not rename my photostream my "bitstream" or "thingystream" - ugh!

2. Please don't allow videos to be embedded in comments on other photos, the way photos can be.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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the workers' opposition says:

Frankly, I am pissed off. I have nothing against video, but I became a Flickr user because of photography, and nothing else. If Yahoo is so desperate to compete with Youtube, they ought to have launched this feature on a different site. It clearly demonstrates the corporate direction of Flickr's new owners that they would seek to muddy the clear concept that was Flickr with an entirely new medium. Instead of listening carefully to the community of members and introducing features that supported Flickr as a photography site, Flickr honchos have responded to an extrinsic demand from the head office, wherever that is.

I am really, really disappointed.
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Flickr Staff

heather says:

Well, I'm excited to see what flickerites can do with 90 seconds, but entirely confused as to the meaning of: "Your “beautiful wife” should not be moving." Given context I think I more or less know what they mean, but it doesn't make any more sense to me than "We don't need to see the green on your turtle" would.

That's great feedback. I can see now that it might be a little confusing.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

"Almost ALL of the accounts with stolen content, are free accounts. Threat of losing your cash will keep the kids out, I'll bet. "

Stolen content, there is tons of it on here, from reading the exasperated discussions by the victims it seems flickr is pretty slow at doing anything.

In the beginning Youtube claimed, no video longer than 10mins, no copyrighted stuff. What a joke. Look at the mess of Youtube.

I feel the 90 seconds snippet is a cute idea. I love video as much as the next spammer but I am just really scared my beloved flickr is about to turn into less than the community that I really do love / really am pathetically addicted to.
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heather (staff) edited this topic 50 months ago.

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Videos cannot be embedded in comment fields; comments and discussion threads only accept simple html, not the complex sort which is found in the Embed link for a video.

So, they won't be appearing in comments or discussions.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

The Searcher Because the people posting the amateur porn are sure to read and follow the FAQs. Like all other rules on flickr, it's up to those of us who don't want to see it to report it. I doubt flickr staff is vetting every video as it's uploaded any more than they vet each and every photo.

I'll have to reread the FAQs but the penalty for uploading moving porn is just seemed to be deletion of the video, not the account.
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RubyMae edited this topic 50 months ago.

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Jean Knowles  Pro User  says:

Video? WHY? It was the photo-sharing community that attracted me to Flickr. The idea of video holds no appeal for me.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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Leaca's Philosophy  Pro User  says:

I agree it should be the account that gets deleted.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

Because apparently everyone else wanted it.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

RubyMae: Like any no-no, repeat offenders will likely face account deletion, especially since an account can't be set to "restricted" for content that can't actually BE set to restricted (oh, now that's an interesting wrinkle.)

Montgomery: YouTube is free. Flickr is not. I'm telling you, not everyone is going to be willing to drop $24 to post a clip of The Daily Show or an orgy scene from Big Butts Bite Boston 6. Just to lose their cash and account for the violation.

I think the more interesting challenge will be how the line is drawn on "moderate" content. That's a forum discussion to be had, I'm sure.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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elementalPaul  Pro User  says:

@ cjknowles711 - Flickr isn't going to suddenly stop hosting photographs.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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bosquetango  Pro User  says:

I'm quite pleased and optimistic about the addition of video to our flickrverse.
I'm very pissed off that the video thread on Flickrcentral.
A link here would have been adequate. That thread had been perfectly fine for 8 months. I resent the nanny state telling me where to read something!
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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eyebo says:

There are a lot of people that are going to love video on Flickr that have not voiced an opinion here because they're busy out taking videos (and/or never frequent the forum). ;)
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eyebo edited this topic 50 months ago.

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tavopp  Pro User  says:

This is how I see the future of Flickr
for $25 a year i can upload tons of 90 sec porn movies, under each movie I can get a link to a porn site and make lots of money
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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

Searcher: I agree that the paltry 24$ might be a deterrent to some. and I really agree with
"how the line is drawn on "moderate" content. That's a forum discussion to be had, I'm sure. "

I just do not see this turning out well. Sorry to be such a naysayer. I am actually shocked at how strongly I feel about this. Glad we have this place to discuss.

Recently I have been feeling that flickr is letting us down in a few areas and I guess this was the final shove that made me voice my opinion.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )
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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Um, all lovers of photography should note the upside of this launch to them:

You can now upload up to 20MB files. :) The 10MB limit per photo has been doubled.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )
zyrcster edited this topic 50 months ago.

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Billyterr  Pro User  says:

Great job Flickr! I've been waiting for video to be added, even though I shoot very little of it. The 90 second limit, which might be occasionally frustrating, is a great idea. It will force creativity and, hopefully, authentic moments. Constraints can be good!

A few items I think would improve the user experience:

1) Allow users to exclude video from popping up in searches, recent contacts photos, etc. This would be a preference that would either be on or off, not just a filter when searching.

2) Allow a personal photostream to split up into photostream or videostream or both. This should be option instead of just always set to both and mixed together on the page. A simple link/tab across the top of a photo page would allow for users to switch back and forth. This would be my number one request right now.

Again, great job. I can't wait to see what is next!
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )
Billyterr edited this topic 50 months ago.

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Flickr Staff

heather says:

Flickr honchos have responded to an extrinsic demand from the head office, wherever that is.

Actually, video has been on the road map from the very beginning. It was important to us that video complement the existing flickrverse and that's one of the reasons that it's taken so long.

If you don't want to see video on Flickr, a great start would be set your default to not auto-play:

www.flickr.com/account/prefs/autoplay/?from=privacy
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

tavopp Except that in theory porn video is not allowed.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

tavopp: what part of "video porn isn't allowed" don't you get?
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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villy21  Pro User  says:

I dont like the idea of videos in Flickr , photography is what i love about it, and i m having problems sending my pictures to groups now because of the new addition:videos

Frustrating
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

tavopp You really are missing the point that porn videos won't be allowed and that commercial accounts get terminated.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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MurphyZero says:

Great -- Flickr should merge with YouTube just for good measure and finally kill this site once and for all.....

Very disappointing......
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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Kevin (KtecK)  Pro User  says:

The upload function seems to work well... The only thing that im not too sure about is the 90 second limit. Personally i even find 10 minute limit too short even but its preferable over the current 90 seconds.

i understand the idea is not create another video site and i know others will have issues with the short time frame limit.
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Lali° says:

Watch this turn into "PORN FEST" in a week, just like "regular" Flickr did. Ugh.
Oh how I miss the good old days, when Flickr was a place for pro and amateur photographers to share their work... Those were the days.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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Werewolf Puppy says:

Observation: the video plugin requires Flash. No problem, I'll just use another browser that has Shockwave Flash. Now Flickr reminds me of Youtube. lol. The interface is easy to use. I think the interface is easier or less crowded than YouTube's interface.

Now all I need to do is figure out how to use my still camera as a video camera. lol

Bye
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Lali° says:

I just read what MurphyZero wrote and I TOTALLY AGREE.
Flickr has TOTALLY sold out. It was perfect just how it was in the beginning. Now they're just destroying it.
FLICKR ADMINS: You are killing something that used to be great. Video-Flickr is the beginning of your swan song.

You used to be cool. What happened?
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Lali° edited this topic 50 months ago.

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the workers' opposition says:

Oh, and look...

Instead of waiting to let group moderators decide whether or not they wish to include video to the group pool, the Flickrocracy has made the inclusion of video a default setting on groups.

Shitty, you guys, really shitty.
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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

yup. instead of comment fishing to get on the hallowed algorithm powered "explore"

I see too much work from the users nowadays and very little from flickr. The community makes this place great., flickr does nothing bar host the pics and sometimes fall asleep at the desk while contacts new picture ,recent groups "we've noticed" all turn into disaster zones.

oh, and sells us out now and then.

big bucks yahoo!, thanks.
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tavopp  Pro User  says:

I think they're trying to make a lot of money before the microsoft take over
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Lali° says:

I don't care what they say about "video porn" not allowed! It's impossible to police these videos once thousands of people start uploading them.

And why is photo porn ok, but video porn not???

There should be no porn on flick PERIOD. And that's nothing against porn, but there are OTHER sites for that.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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Soubrause says:

Can we expect an option under content filtering for video? I shouldn't have to dig through videos in my search results if I can exclude drawings & paintings.

Very disappointed that this couldn't have been implemented on a "Sister" site instead.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Can we expect an option under content filtering for video?

In advanced search, you can filter out video.
Posted 50 months ago. ( permalink )

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Pacdog  Pro User  says:

One thing I think this could provide is a Video Profile members could place in their profile page. I'll work on one tomorrow..

It would give my (or your) friends and contacts a new way to get to know me(or you) instead of just reading about me (or you).

90 seconds is just about all the time I'll need for this. =o)
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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

I don't think the profile page can handle the html for video embedding.
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dbthayer says:

If you don't want to see video on Flickr, a great start would be set your default to not auto-play

done, for a start. what's the next step for filtering video?
will you be implementing real filters any time soon?

for example, I want to hide videos from my groups, so that I don't get duped into clicking through to one. at minimum, videos in groups should be blacked out like restricted photos.

edit: typo
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Flickr Staff

heather says:

I would to hide videos from my groups, so that I don't get duped into clicking through to one

If they're groups that you administer, you can elect to not allow video. If you're not an admin, then the small white arrow in the bottom left is a visual queue that it's a video.
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

Lali: Flickr has always had porn photos, in fact it used to be considerably more "wild west" than it is now. So if you have a problem with that, you have a problem with the site you signed up for, lo those many years ago.

And until you or anyone can show that video porn is going to run rampant on here (again, read the FAQ!!! Video is only allowed from paying members. Are you going to risk your entire account just for a porn clip?) you're just making things up in your heads.

There are plenty of true things that video on Flickr can make bad. How about sticking with those, before inventing made up ones?
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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

videos in groups should be blacked out like restricted photos.
videos have little arrows in the corner, so you can see that they are videos... no need to black them out.
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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

It's pretty hard to get duped into watching a video. Even on the thumbnail you see the video play icon.
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striatic says:

' I would to hide videos from my groups, so that I don't get duped into clicking through to one.'

if it is in the pool, it has a "play" thumbnail on it.

so how would you be duped into clicking one?
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ashur says:

Although it breaks the analogy of working like photos do, it would be nice to Fave a video in its thumbnail/embedded state after it stops playing rather than having to click through.
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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

The Searcher Yeah, I actually unhid Everyone's Photos for a moment to see if video porn was going to pop up. Surprisingly, none. Even more surprisingly (or perhaps by design) no video at all was showing in Everyone's Photos.
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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

great discussion guys, you are getting me through a dull day at the office.

Well, I guess we shall see. Flickr clearly has the controls in place to make sure these mini-vids do not upset too much.

Good luck to you all. Thanks again for a nice rapid debate. Im going for a walk to ponder some more.
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striatic says:

i think it is hilarious that the first thing people bring up about video is .. PORN!

as if there wasn't already 16 kabillion pornographic photos on flickr already.

thing is, it is pretty easy to overlook the 16 kabillion pornographic photos, since flickr filters them pretty well.
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the workers' opposition says:

Heather, you wrote:

"Actually, video has been on the road map from the very beginning. It was important to us that video complement the existing flickrverse and that's one of the reasons that it's taken so long."

If video has been on the roadmap from the beginning, that comes as a surprise to me and many others. After all, Flickr has billed itself from the beginning as a photography site. Tout court. It has never, ever billed itself as a convergence multimedia site.

With all due respect, the fact is that video does not belong to the Flickr environment. If you people had listened to the community you would have known that the best way to proceed with this would have been to launch a "sister" site as was suggested above.
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

RubyMae: Even tho they've opened the floodgates, that may just be from not enough video uploaded, yet. I think my prediction will hold, there'll be a sudden spike in videos as awareness grows and people try out the novelty. But then once they do (and a browsing through the existing video groups bears this out) many will realize they have no use for it, that shooting video of opening and closing a fridge door or your elevator rides just isn't funny or interesting. Then I think it will calm down to a less in your face level.

maybe.
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Dave Palugyay says:

Videos...on Flickr?
Why...because they can? Because they want to be Youtube? Because MS will have to offer more $$. I am not convinced this is a good idea.
They better not screw up a good thing.
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striatic says:

'It has never, ever billed itself as a convergence multimedia site.'

digital cameras with video capability don't bill themselves as convergence media devices, either.
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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

^^^^ I agree. just snorted while trying not to snigger at your description of the types of vids we may see.
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Lali° says:

The Searcher: You're right about something: I DO have a problem with the site I signed up for...They've sold out.

Let's see what happens when Microsoft takes over.
(Queue evil laugh)
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striatic says:

'If you people had listened to the community you would have known that the best way to proceed with this would have been to launch a "sister" site as was suggested above.'

who anointed you "speaker for the community"?

good grief.
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Dawn Endico  Pro User  says:

I've uploaded 3 videos so far and even though i tell the uploader to make them public, they show up as private. I guess this is a leftover feature from the beta.

I'm very happy with this new feature. Cameras nowadays shoot both stills and video and its great to use tools that don't make pointless distinctions between file types of stuff they find on my camera.
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dbthayer says:

striatic:

um, haven't seen one in a group yet, thankfully.
[runs off to not allow video in my groups.]

edit: should be some good video fireworks in groups with multiple admins.
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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

What about all the people here that shoot film, or digital that doesn't have video capability? And who appointed you as speaker for the community?

Why is the opinion of those who want video somehow more valid than those who don't think it improves the site?
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patchattack  Pro User  says:

absolutely against this. i chose flickr only because it was a photo-only site. i was looking for a photo forum. still photography and crappy 90-second videos are 2 completely different things. and bandwidth? is the entire site painfully slow tonight because of this?
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

By the way, whoever suggested it waAAyyy up there; I think a "how I set up my photoshoot" would be a great group/use for video. Have the beautiful photo on the stream, then a link to an accompanying video of the setup. Any of that "behind the scenes" that compliments photos, I'd be all for.

"I'm SOOoo Drunk!!" vids, I'm not so look forwardy of.
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the workers' opposition says:

Hey Striatic...who appointed you as Flickr ho?
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Flickr Staff

Eric says:

If you people had listened to the community you would have known that...

O man, when I think of all the things we people would have known if we had only listened to the community... the mind boggles.
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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

Searcher, we seem to be in agreement again. Porn, banned. Im sooooooooOOOO drunk...... not excited about that.

@the workers opposition... no need to get nasty. this is, so far, a fairly decent debate.
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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

We need to keep the discussion civil or this will get locked up really soon.
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Flickr Staff

heather says:

With all due respect, the fact is that video does not belong to the Flickr environment. If you people had listened to the community you would have known that the best way to proceed with this would have been to launch a "sister" site as was suggested above.

Given that we've been live now for only about two hours, I think it would be far too soon to make that call.

I would encourage you to take a tour, upload a video (if you haven't) and see how well video complements photos.
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striatic says:

'What about all the people here that shoot film, or digital that doesn't have video capability?'

then they can avoid video, and continue to use flickr as the primarily photographic site that it is.

'Hey Striatic...who apponted you as Flickr ho?'

you're hilarious. i've written plenty of highly critical posts about flickr in the past.

they do plenty of things i think are ridiculous, but i'd never claim to speak for some mythical, monolithic "community"

flickr is built out of "communities", plural.
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majomo-photography  Pro User  says:

@heather, I shall take your advice and give it the full tour, also, is the group you mailed me about now named in a suitable manner?

I dont want to get banned. :(
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Flickr Staff

heather says:

the workers' opposition, You need to dial back the agro.
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Ledio (mostly away) says:

i guess since yahoo couldn't buy youtube, they think it's a great idea to turn this into a video app? pathetic. the reason youtube was/is successful is cause it doesn't just one thing, videos. flickr needs to stick with photos.
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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

There is a comment by Stewart, from 42 months ago:

"We're still thinking about video, but it'll probably happen in the longer term. "

So I'd say this has been on the drawing board since sometime in 2004.
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

Ok, here's one. A video on my main photostream page, the top menus display fine. However, inside the photo page itself (I guess the "video" page), the menus open up BEHIND the video (like "you", "organize" etc). I'm in Firefox.
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Chrisser  Pro User  says:

For removing the option of videos for groups, if you are an Admin, click on Administration of the group, then click on the Moderating your Group link, scroll down, and select Photos Only under Media Types. You can also choose the Content Type that is permitted, along with the Safe Level option of items permitted in the pool.
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matt  Pro User  says:

What about all the people here that shoot film...

I shoot film. Video on Flickr doesn't change that. I can't even see why it would change that. If all those new-fangled electronics and pixels and things were that frightening to me, I wouldn't even be on Flickr in the first place.
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striatic says:

'i guess since yahoo couldn't buy youtube, they think it's a great idea to turn this into a video app? pathetic.'

why do so many people say video+web=youtube?

youtube isn't the only model for sharing video.

youtube video is subscriber driven, not contact driven.

the default navigation is "related videos" not "more from this user".

it caters to low res, low quality clips, where flickr caters to higher res, higher quality.

i could describe many other fundamental and profound differences between flickr and youtube, but i guess in the minds of some:

video=youtube

is some kind of absolute equation.
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

I've heard some forms of moving pictures used film, too..
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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

The Searcher I'm not seeing that in Firefox 2.0.0.13. Have you tried a cache clear?
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illinichick357  Pro User  says:

I think "how to video" is a good idea, especially for those (like me) who are relatively ignorant about how to set things up, etc...

But I still have this huge fear of it being overrun by college kids running through the quad naked, or how many tequila shots some asshole can down off a girls tits before his 90 seconds run out.

Be it a valid fear or not...we'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully I'm completely unfounded and it will be wonderful.
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

zrycster: yeah, and it doesn't matter if it's on my page or any new video I check out. It is Firefox 3 beta4, though.
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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

The Searcher Oh, I haven't tried the new version yet. Good to know.
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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

The Searcher I'm not seeing that either on your video page.
Firefox 2.0.0.13
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matt  Pro User  says:

Searcher - you may want to drop a note in the bugs thread; could get overlooked in here, what with the sky falling and all. Don't forget your OS details, either, or any greasemonkey scripts or extensions et alia. All that can add up to "weird" pretty easily.
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hrw worcester says:

Oooh, now I know what to shoot for my first video that Heather is imploring us to create and upload before deciding if we like to see video on Flickr. ;-)
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Flickr Staff

Kevin says:

Hey there- for feedback on technical problems (meaning: bugs, etc.), can you please post to this topic?

Thanks!

(edited to be clearer)
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bealluc  Pro User  says:

Well, this part of the flickr community can do without vids. It feels like a cheap, opportunistic accessory to the entire site.

Still photography. That's what we signed on for.

God, those animated comment icons are bad enough without letting every bored Johnny Camphone or Suzie Cybershot out there litter the landscape with their fell cacophony of How They Look Like Standing in the Mall, or How They Look Like Hanging Out in Their Room.

Bollox.

(edit - how do you get the person's buddy icon to go easily little like that in responding? dat's coo)
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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

My comment was made in response to Striatic's repeated assertion that the reason video is on flickr is because digital cameras can shoot video.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

I think the wording has been changed to much to emphasize videos. Really, it doesn't need to be "more photos and videos from jakerome." More photos is fine, thanks. If folks want it to say "more illustrations, screenshots & videos from jakerome," then should be an opt-in.

Also, having the link for group pools say "more photos and videos" is not only the incorrect emphasis, it's just flat-out incorrect. This message appears even in groups where I have disallowed videos.

I like videos on Flickr. I've been looking forward to having a Flickr-friendly way to share videos w/ my friends & family. But really, Flickr is a photo site first, last and always, and the photo features should be emphasized.

IMHO.
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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

As for the brilliant idea of how-to videos - check out some video blogs or video podcasts and you'll see just how "wonderful" a tool it is.
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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

bealluc "cheap, opportunistic accessory to the entire site."

Um one of the FOUNDERs of Flickr said 3 and a half years ago they wanted to add video.

That hardly counts as opportunistic.
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matt  Pro User  says:

every bored Johnny Camphone or Suzie Cybershot out there

They'll get along just fine with Jehosephat C.S. Photoshop III and Sheila Aitchdeeare, I figure. Probably good they all have someone to play with.

Ruby: I know that. I just don't see how your comment makes any sense in that regard. It's just a rhetorical question. So enlighten me: What about people who shoot film?
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applec2400 says:

the real reason for video: Flickr is trying to stay ahead of Picasa! Lo and behold the answer!

And I don't think anyone can deny the truth in that.
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RubyMae  Pro User  says:

Exactly, it makes as much sense as Striatic's repeated assertion that video belongs on flickr because digital cameras can shoot video. 35 mm cameras don't shoot video. So an owner of that camera could say that video shouldn't be here because cameras don't shoot video. Yippee that your camera shoots video, not everyone's does.

Yes, I understand that there are things called movies, which occasionally (although less and less often) are shot with film.
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