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In terms of feedback? I'm highly against this idea, but we'll see how it turns out...
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Cool, thanks heather.
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Yip yip yippeeee!!!
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Responding to zyrcster from the thread that was closed while I was typing my reply:
 If a lot of my contacts go to primarily video, so I'm skipping over umpteen video uploads to find a sporadically posted photo, then flickr would not be as enjoyable (and yes, I can already think of at least a dozen contacts that will choose video over photos). If many comment/discussion threads turn into discussions about video, then flickr will not be enjoyable for me. If groups I'm active in stagnate because everyone is flocking to new video sharing groups, then flickr will not be enjoyable for me. If every Help Forum thread turns into a question about video then flickr will not be enjoyable for me. ;-)
I can imagine many ways video will impact my flickr experience. Merely excluding it from searches is not enough for me. But I only have one foot out the door. I will wait until the feature is actually launched before following with the other.
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(I'm still here because I didn't mean I'd literally run away the second video launches.)
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YAY! Congratulations everyone.
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Well, I'm convinced that there will be video-only groups on Flickr.
Besides, admins of groups can choose to exclude video from their pools, and presumably from the group, too.
I doubt very much that video will make photography stagnate on Flickr.
That said, I'm one of your contacts that has a few vids in my stream now. But on the whole, I intend to stick with photography, by and large.
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There's a missing screenshot on the FAQ page.
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uploading first video
lets see how it looks
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Videos will show up anywhere photos do (in search results, photostreams, Explore, RSS feeds, etc)
pathetic, flickr.
WHERE ARE THE FILTERS?!
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RubyMae: we'll have to see how this will play out, but with the limitations Flickr has built in (90 seconds, pro only, "safe" & "moderate" only, homemade only, etc) I would see this as one of those "hobbies" that kick in here, less a complete takeover. Like HDR groups, TiltShift groups, FishEye Lens groups, etc. People will take those kinds of shots, but unlikely that's all they'll do.
You may find an initial spike, as everyone jumps at the chance to make a video. Then once the novelty wears off, and people realize they still have to be creative to make something good, it'll settle into a niche. maybe.
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taking forever to upload a 3.2mb mov file
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now i have an image saying "unable to process this video"
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now i have an image saying "unable to process this video"
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Meanwhile, for those who care, this link is on the landing page now, and goes off to a group showcasing some Flickr vids:
www.flickr.com/groups/video/
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Don't we get a say as to what we can do with flickr. We pay to have our photos on the website, yet all of our ideas seem to be ignored. Somebody had an idea about making video optional for people to where they could turn it off completely, will that be happening?
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You 
You can limit your searches to just photos.
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well, um, crap. I've been shunted out of Flickr for the last 15 minutes. Unable to get to the site at all. So much for not negatively impacting the rest of the site?
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Well, it's good to see it took all of what, 20 minutes for Video to Kill the Photography Star?
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LOL, I couldn't even get into Flickr Help Forum for 15 minutes.
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Great job flickr.
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 They announced a long time ago that video would be coming to Flickr. You can also exclude video from searches, or from your group's pools. Also, the videos do not load automatically when you go to someone's stream, and you can turn off autorun in You > Your Account for when you land on someone's video page.
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Wow. Massive slowdowns about 2 minutes after the launch, and still incredibly slow page loads (site wide, not video related in all tabs).
Dammit. I was hoping something like this wouldn't happen on this launch. Ho hum.
KICK THE TYRES Y'ALL!
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Thanks.
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We have been having some site problems, but we're back.
now i have an image saying "unable to process this video"
tavopp, will you try uploading again now that the site is back?
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I watched Heather's video and Flickr crashed. I assume that was the reason, right?? :)
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If nothing else video will put a whole new spin on the help forum :-)
I'm largely indifferent about video at the moment but it'll be interesting to see how things develop. The interweb is an ever changing landscape and I think there's no point in getting all upset about video on Flickr right now (or ever for that matter!).
Having had a quick look a the FAQ it seems as though video on Flickr has been well thought out. I'm getting a bit more excited about video on Flickr even as I type!
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Getting back to dbthayer's comment up there: In Advanced Search, I can choose to avoid video in results. But I don't see that option in my Account Settings?
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Video is not why I am on flickr. I hope it becomes a very small niche. Don't get me wrong...I like a good video and often go to YouTube to see one. Just sorry flickr has made this decision.
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www.flickr.com/groups/vids/
Here's that group you were talking about.
Might as well embrace it.
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 The Searcher
It's in Privacy and Permissions
But all it does is stop the autoplay.
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Why would I ever want video on Flickr? :-(
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And did the FAQ actually say video will be in Explore?
God I can't wait for the "interestingness" balancing insanity among the Explore-followers over that.
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3 years on flickr and I've never been unable to access the site (aside from scheduled "massages."). 3 minutes of video on flickr, and the site crashes.
A fair number of my contacts have uploaded videos. The upshot to that is I have a lot less new stuff to check tonight because I won't be watching videos. I may actually get to be on time tonight.
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I am staying with photo uploads, and due to only having a dial-up connection, not possible for me to include videos, even if they are just a few seconds. And I worry about the security of videos.
And will there be an FAQ relating to Videos?
EDIT - Thanks for the FAQ on video, Heather.
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Hmm, I think video is excluded from Explore, no? I don't see in the FAQ where it says it will be in Explore. Sort of like how art is excluded from Explore.
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Colleen: I know that one. I'm talking about the same function as in Advanced Search. Just like for non-photos and screenshots. So I don't have to get video in search results permanently, instead of having to use Advanced Search for each individual search always. Where's that one?
[edit: from the FAQ: "Videos will show up anywhere photos do (in search results, photostreams, Explore, RSS feeds, etc)"]
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Jesus, Ruby. We get it. You don't like it.
Gorblimey.
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Chrisser Heather posted the link to the FAQ in her opening post of this thread.
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Can you tell a video is a video from the thumbnail, at least? I haven't seen one yet (thank goodness my contacts haven't all jumped on board... yet). I did set them to not autoplay, but I'd rather just skip the whole thing if I can tell from the outset.
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"Videos will show up anywhere photos do (in search results, photostreams, Explore, RSS feeds, etc) "
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People are entitled to their own opinions.
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I want to exclude video from search results (in Account Settings), and photostreams.
Can live without Explore completely, so never mind that.
have you heard anything we've been saying about wanting to filter out video, flickr?
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worcester: they have a little triangle in the corner, even in thumbs. And if you click on it, the thumb will actually play.
dbthayer: I don't think they have anything for excluding seeing them on people's photostreams, just from searches.
However, considering the content filters can hide content on streams, it does seem like a feature option that they could add. Depending on interest, I suppose. So you may have to wait for a bit more backlash for that one.
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The Searcher . So I don't have to get video in search results permanently, instead of having to use Advanced Search for each individual search always. Where's that one?
That's one they chose not to allow us.
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@ The Searcher - I missed the bit about Explore on the FAQ; that'll be interesting! ('scuse the pun).
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Just when I thought Flickr couldn't get any better you go and add video. I guess I'll still be using Vimeo for longer videos but Flickr will be perfect for short clips I want to share with friends.
As for everyone's moaning and groaning over the addition of video, well... it's something thats there and can be used if you want or need it but not something that is going to be bothersome. You can even restrict your searches so you never see any video if you're so inclined. For those only interested in the artistic side of photography... well I'm sure most would agree that video can be every bit as artistic as photography. And for those that want to share baby's first steps... well... there's no substitute for video, is there? :)
I do have a question though... is video going to start showing up on the Explore pages too?
Nevermind, I see the bit in the FAQ now. :)
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ive tried 3 different formats mp4 avi mov, all of them worked with horrible performance, besides there's nothing new that will make it better than other video sites...
a sad day in flickr history
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dbthayer Apparently not. But now we've become the vocal minority. Does this mean we have to make a tacky protest avatar now? I sure hope not.
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isn't it ruining flickr's own branding?
From flickr site:
About Flickr
Flickr is a revolution in photo storage, sharing and organization, making photo management an easy, natural and collaborative process. Get comments, notes, and tags on your photos, post to any blog, share and more!
From meta description
Flickr is almost certainly the best online photo management and sharing application in the world.
What will the meta say now?
Why blur the line?
what made flickr successful was the community of photographers and the photos.
not the second youtube.
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I agree with wanting to filter.
Just like Safe Search lets me avoid Moderate or Restricted, I also want to be able to avoid Video.
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tavopp The frame rate conversion to Flash is 12 fps, if that helps or doesn't. Just sharing info.
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Can you tell a video is a video from the thumbnail, at least?
Yes. There's a little play icon in the bottom left of thumbnails to indicate that it's a video. Look in the Video! Video! Video! group to see what these icons look like (though these are all videos on this page).
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ColleenM Technically you can. Just don't click on the little play button on the videos in the photostream. View them as you would any other (crappy) thumbnail and move on to the next.
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"Videos will show up anywhere photos do (in search results, photostreams, Explore, RSS feeds, etc) "
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 Well, that ought to make Explore interesting...
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Very cool!
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RubyMae
I want more. When I search with Safe Search on, Flickr doesn't even show me the stuff. That's what I want to be able to do with video.
Not 'choose not to click through the fuzzy black' or 'choose not to click the triangle.
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tavop (and cathycracks) you should both read the FAQ before assuming you know what it is first. They're trying to do something the other sites do not. It isn't meant to be a video site like YouTube (which would suck) thus the limits on content and time. I also haven't seen any other video sites that do "portrait" video, which adds an odd photo format element to it.
Maybe you should wait for the YouTube videos to get here, before assuming that's where it's going.
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I had not even thought about explore.
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@zyrcster: we've increased the frames per second to 30 now that we've launched. We think you'll see the increase in quality right away from videos that you uploaded during the beta.
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Well, I have been wanting to cut down on the number of contacts I have, any that upload video will be on the list to go. Count me as a naysayer, obviously.
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This is very interesting...
I think that eventually, if possible, it would be nice to select a portion of a video longer than 90 seconds and upload only that, since I don't have a free editing program or anything (yet). It would just be a lot easier to do in flickr, similar to what the Picnik program does to editing photos.
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Excellent news. :)
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I'm nervous to see how this will impact my personal Flickr experience. I am probably in the minority with RubyMae and dbthayer.
However, I will be looking at zyrcster's videos that are in my contacts photos. At least I know they will be tasteful. Not sure I'll be checking out any non contacts videos.
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Guys/Gals,
Great job all around. Cannot wait to see how people use this stuff. This is huge!
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@ ColleenM & zyrcster - "Secrets of video" group then?! :-)
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Oh, I can just picture what Flickr Ideas is going to look like for the next week or two (or three...)
Idea - longer video; 90 seconds is not enough
Idea - why limit video size, 150 MB is not enough
Idea - why can't I just have video on my home page, I don't need a photostream.
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I am excited about the video. I don't shoot video but there are so many creative people on flickr that do. It should be inspiring to say the least.
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 I was going to add my Secrets of Explore video to the group, but Colleen and Ruby's responses here have me frightened....
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( 1 ) Will there be a safety net to stop your video from being downloaded by others and re posting them else were ?
( 2 ) will you be able to import your video off youtube to Flickr ?
I mean there are a lot of ARR infringement with photos as it is already. Has Flickr put settings to protect a members video ?
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if I only have one photo in a set now, below it says "1 thingy" :)
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Why not - if video can make Explore. (Trying not to make snarky comment about Abby videos) :-D
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My feedback is, yay! it's here! :D
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There's a lot of "feedback" on here already. What about those of us who work on short independent films and want to put them on here as well. Most of the shorts I've done are much longer than 90 seconds. Is there any plan to make the length restriction longer? Say, 20 minutes. I mean, even YouTube (who I'm not a huge fan of) has a 10 minute limit.
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cut down on the number of contacts I have, any that upload video will be on the list to go.
AustinTX:
exactly. guess we'll have to implement our own filtering system.
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The idea of video on Flickr really depresses me. I'm sorry to see it happen.
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illinichick: I wouldn't assume you or RubyMae are going to be in the minority. This a pretty major change/transition/addition for a photo site. Change is scary, and considering the insta-break Flickr experienced just as this launched, often rightly so. I'm benefit-doubty, until I see the bad, instead of going by my assumtions.
However, I am now miffed that video is going to be allowed in Explore, yet artwork is still banned. Kind of breaks they're whole "you're not allowed because Flickr is a PHOTO sharing site" argument.
Or at the very least (since Explore isn't really my issue) make images flagged as "art" show up in searches by DEFAULT, instead of hidden by default, as it is now. Considering Video appears to be defaulting to visible, that seems only fair.
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 Wow, it sure didn't take long for someone to note that 90 seconds wasn't long enough.
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Go ahead. I think pioneering videos belong in the pool. Just make sure they have comments at least 1 week old.
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Photojunky - AMDM - photography
( 1 ) Will there be a safety net to stop your video from being downloaded by others and re posting them else were ?
You can restrict downloading of your videos just like you can with your photos in You > Your Account > Privacy and Permissions
( 2 ) will you be able to import your video off youtube to Flickr ?
Like content anywhere, you will have to download your vids from YouTube, edit them to 90 seconds if needed, and upload to Flickr.
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And I see when I was checking the groups I am an admin for, the Additional Information changed to include the video option along with which content is permitted and content that is with the Safe filtering option.
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I'll let you decide about my vids in the SoE pool. One I made over a week ago, the other I made just yesterday in prep for the launch.
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The Searcher If you're read the blog and the FAQ, we're not supposed to think of it as video, but rather a long moving photo. So the distinction between between drawing/illustrations and photos still exists.
(Besides, if we let drawings into Explore you'd dominate and that wouldn't be fair to all us poor non-videographing photographers, who will probably never make Explore again at any rate.)
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OK, I am appointing RubyMae as my official spokesperson! I've agreed with everything she's said in this thread and the old one! And she's said it better then I ever could!
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we've increased the frames per second to 30 now that we've launched.
That's brilliant!
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Actually, I don't think vids belong in Explore, either, at least not until the cover frame is able to be chosen. Right now it just grabs a frame a few seconds in, and one has no control over the frame it grabs.
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Photojunky: it will likely be more difficult to take video off of Flickr than images, since it needs to play to be snatched. Video can be embedded, but odds are that's a control you have like "all sizes" for who can and can't do that.
But like YouTube, there will likely be 3rd party tools written shortly that can "strip" out a video while it's being played, and copy it elsewhere.
So with everything else, self-policing will be an issue. Of course, the "value" of 90 second video clips, may make that not such a big issue.
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You have intriduced another bug with the changes.
Now all groups can flag acceptable safe, or moderate or restricted content. Probably a good idea however, even private 18+ and public 18+ groups are restricted to safe content only by default. Surely if they are flagged for 18+ only, the default should be to set the group to all safety levels?
The end result is that now I cannot upload any of my shots to any group I belong to.
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I hope this lasts about 2 days. I'll be out if this gets out of hand. I personally think YouTube is a pointless waste of server space, and this'll most likely be no different. I'm quite disappointed :/
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Other than a few failed attempts at uploading it's working brill! Ta
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I am now miffed that video is going to be allowed in Explore, yet artwork is still banned.
as if we didn't need another reason, fuck explore.
at least now you can do a video pan of your artwork, 45 secs. down and 45 secs. back up, and get it into explore that way.
if you really cared, which of course you don't. ;-)
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There needs to be an mp4 transcoding option, so we can view on iPods, iPhones, etc. This is especially important for rss feeds.
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The Searcher I agree. I have always thought that Explore should be open to artwork as it is a part of Flickr. (And I'm a fan of yours). If Video is going to be allowed then I see the argument behind opening it to artwork also. I doubt that will ever happen, and am not happy about video being so at all. Not that I personally give a damn about Explore, but in that I'm concerned about what posts may be coming to the help forum about it. Our little vomiting panda may be on overtime.
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When I search a particular photo stream, I have no way of filtering videos out of the results.
I can go to Advanced Search, but then I can't limit my search to a particular photo stream.
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Cool thanks for the answer. Though I give Flickr a congrats on their new video feature I will probably keep Flickr just for my photos. My youtube just for videos. Simply because I wouldn't want to lose any of my contacts just because I upload a video or two. I read farther up some will remove their contacts if they upload videos. I have come to know my contacts pretty well. Sure wouldn't want this to happen. But Go Flickr and congrats to the staff .
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I uploaded my first video and it got squashed from widescreen to 4:3: www.flickr.com/photos/amanzi/2399211403 and there's strange horizontal bars in the video. This file was straight from my Sony camcorder, no software editing.
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