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Reverse Contacts in Groups [ revised group invites ]

Ol' Wizard  Pro User  says:

Hi Everyone:

Has this issue died? I administer ten groups and reverse contacts are the only way I can send out extensive invitations. This issue was supposed to be a programming one that was being worked on by flickr staff. I just want to know whether I am waiting in vain, or that they are working toward a resolution. It would be a shame to lose this feature entirely! Most people appreciated these invitations as they raised awareness about available and high quality groups.

Please don't refer me to the other forum threads on this topic. They died four months ago.

Thanks,

-Charles


Staff Update 12/27/09:

For now, the former interface (but without the reverse contacts) is still accessible by adding this to the end of the invite page's URL:

&no_js=1

See this comment for more info:
www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/115171/#reply735998
Posted at 9:04AM, 10 December 2009 PDT ( permalink )
zyrcster (staff) edited this topic 29 months ago.

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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

Hi Ol' Wizard,

I'm afraid we don't have any new information, but I'll poke around and see if we can find out the status of this. Meanwhile, thanks for bringing it to our attention - when we have an update, we will post it here.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Ol' Wizard  Pro User  says:

Thanks for the help. I will wait patiently for any new developments!

-Charles
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

Hey there,

So, we've changed the way group invites work, so you can now invite your reverse contacts (or anyone, really) to groups again.

There's still some messaging that needs to be changed, but the functionality is there.

Thanks for your patience.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

So, having checked it out, I see that you can now invite anyone to a group (as you said). :)

Are you going to change the wording on the Invite page that still says you are only allowed to invite people who know you (ie your reverse contacts)?


(did you edit your reply to mention the language change or am I just blind today?? :) )
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

ah, no, I do edit my comments, but not this one. :)
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

I guess I was so shocked by the change in functionality (ie, that one can now invite *any* flickr member to a group) that I didn't read any further before rushing off to try it.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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dopiaza  Pro User  says:

I'm confused. I still see the old screens that say:


Who would you like to invite into Utata?

One of your Flickr contacts?

You can only invite people who know you to join a group, so you'll see a list of Flickr members who count you as a contact to pick from.

Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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dopiaza  Pro User  says:

Oh, I see. When you say:

There's still some messaging that needs to be changed, but the functionality is there.

You mean that pretty much all the messaging needs to be changed :-)
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Rubyboots  Pro User  says:

I liked the ability to choose from my list of contacts. Now the list is not available to see and check in the invite contacts section. Any possibility in bringing that back?

Thanks
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

Hi Rubyboots,

The way it works now is very much like Flickrmail or Share This works. You can just start typing in a few characters of your contact's screen name or real name into the To: field, and we'll start displaying contacts that match those characters. If we don't find any matches, you can then choose to search all Flickr members.
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Rubyboots  Pro User  says:

Thanks for the reply but now I have to try and remember the contacts name and such. Whereas I could just look at my contact list that was right there and simply check it. Seems to be more difficult now.

Edit: I also tried to invite a contact who's screen name starts out with a heart. I can't bring that name up for an invite. I suppose this will also be the case where someone has an emblem in front of their screen name.
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Rubyboots edited this topic 30 months ago.

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Wil C. Fry  Pro User  says:

Ruby -- I've had the same problem. It was certainly easier when I could choose from a list of my contacts.
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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

What I find confusing is that even though it shows you the list of your contacts that are already in the group (or have been invited), it still lets you invite them in the first step.

It's only once you send the Invite that you get a message saying that the invite won't be sent to those people.

Not sure the best way to deal with that. I suppose one just has to look closely at the list to make sure one doesn't spend time inviting someone who has already been invited.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Rubyboots  Pro User  says:

At the risk of sounding sarcastic, " if it ain't broke don't fix it." I had to get that off my chest. I feel better now. Sorry. ;-)
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Bummer. Some of my most dynamic groups have been built through the mass invite feature/bug. Even with 1000 contacts, I only get 2-3 invites a week, so I'm not sure that whatever occasional abuse accompanied this feature was worth essentially neutering the ability to launch a new group/ project through the mass invite.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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♥ shhexy corin ♥ says:

Perhaps the problem was with rendering a page with thousands of contacts and reverse contacts, and working out who was already invited to the group?
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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buckaroo kid  Pro User  says:

The previous way worked far better, especially having a list of reverse contacts when starting a group.

I only have about 90 contacts, but about 600 reverse contacts, and previously used this as a way of keeping in touch with peoples work I looked at less regularly.

If these people didn't reply to an invite, it would still show that they had been invited. Now it just too difficult, and the membership of groups will definitely suffer, especially if you are trying to start a new one.
What a shame to have another feature that worked well stopped.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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DOM in LV says:

" if it ain't broke don't fix it." This new change has ruined the ability to quickly add contact - Friends, Family and contacts to specific group/ PLEASE PLEASE return the feature QUICKLY !!!
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Ol' Wizard  Pro User  says:

I concur. The mass invite feature was essential. I spend enough time screening submissions, inviting new images, and generally keeping the quality of my groups very high! I can't start doing individual invites. It will take me hours to send these messages, which frankly I don't have.

The old feature was an important tool. It did have some bugs but it was incredibly useful. I don't know about any abuses, but as an administrator, I would strongly plead for its return, or some other way of doing mass invites!!!

Thanks,

Charles
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lú_  Pro User  says:

Shoot. There goes one key method of letting people know about a new group. Sitting down and going through my contact list one page at a time to see who's local (most of my groups have been local-interest), and then inviting them one by one from that list? Not going to happen.
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dopiaza  Pro User  says:

The mass-invite feature may well have been popular with some group creators, but that doesn't mean it was equally loved by the recipients. I've never been a fan of mass invites for groups - just because I add someone as a contact doesn't mean I'm interested in hearing about every crazy new group they decide to create. I pretty much never join a group because I received a blanket invite - it's the quickest way ever to turn me off the idea. It's also a good way to get bumped off my contact list.

On the other hand, I do approve of a system that encourages the personal touch, that lets people choose members individually and send a personal invite that explains why you think a particular group will be of interest to *me*.

You don't have time to send out individual invites? Well, I don't have time to sift through the spam inviting me into groups I have no interest in. Or is it just that you care more about your time than you do about mine?

[Just for clarity, that's a generic "you". It's not targeted at any specific individual here, but at the mass-invite mindset in general.]
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Chungking Express  Pro User  says:

This change is a really bad idea.
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daboogieman says:

As I said here: www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/115655/

Thoroughly fucked up.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Tanya-Dawn ( 'Tish' ) Hughes says:

I don't want to get drawn into an argument about 'mass invite mindsets' but having tried this, it is not just a bad idea - it doesn't work well . After inviting quite a few new contacts & composing a message I was offered the option of changing it. So I spot a couple of typo's and hit the 'change' button, and bingo, all the contacts that I had laboriously put in dissappeared.
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teh resa says:

Oh crap!!!

This is the stupidest thing ever. I just started a new group and I need to see the list!

I never invite all my contacts to any group - not even new groups because the group is always a rarified topic. I need the damn list!

OK, I started in alphabetical order to see which names came up and if I could remember right off if their pictures would fit. It didn't even show all the contacts under each letter! And I generally don't invite reverse contacts who haven't added me. I don't want to bother them.

How stupid this is! By the time I get to the bottom of my list there will likely be some who have rejected the invite and will reappear as if I haven't already invited them.

When I get an invite I don't want I generally just ignore it so that I won't accidentally be sent another one.

Christ this is stupid
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teh resa says:

And it would make sense to edit the topic of this thread so we can find it, instead of being bounced to all the other locked threads on this topic.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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teh resa says:

And I am the LAST person to mass invite people. Furthermore, some of my contacts didn't come up when I typed in the letters of their names because they have weird characters in their names. This is just the stupidest change ever.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

I've updated the title of this thread to include 'group invites' so that it might be more easily found.

Thanks for your feedback, everyone, we're passing it along to the team.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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ecco9494  Pro User  says:

I think this change should have been more thought out and tested. Now when creating new groups I have to spend hours putting in several letters of the alpha just to maybe get a contact invited. Many of my contacts change their account names so this is very confusing!! Put it back to the old way!!!
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teh resa says:

arrrgh. Now in my annoyance I've forgotten how I worded the invitation to the first batch of contacts. This is going to take all day.
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teh resa says:

What we really needed was a change so that mods could invite photos. Hunting for the right kind of photos is time consuming. Or better yet, let us make galleries that can include our own photos so that we can have mini-groups for quirky themes rather than have to make a group and figure out who to invite.
Posted 30 months ago. ( permalink )

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jakerome  Pro User  says:

You can check your sent mail to see what invite text you used. at least you used to be able to-- that may have changed as well.

And if mass invites were a problem and led to this solution, then I'd suggest limiting invites to 50 per day.

But yeah, Flickr staff might not realize how hard it is to create a large group quickly. While staff can blog about official groups and quickly get tens of thousands of members, the rest of us have to scrap and scrape to get critical mass at times.
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davе  Pro User  says:

"I have to spend hours putting in several letters of the alpha just to maybe get a contact invited."

this made me giggle. i thought i was a slow typer. ; )
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ecco9494  Pro User  says:

Dave, I was just setting an example. : )

But it is upsetting, who can think of all the nicknames people use, then they change status on the name so its hard to find them!!
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Painintheace2003 says:

Please Flickr change this back to the way it was before as this way seems to be very confusing and will have people forgetting to invite someone that they wanted to and in turn inviting someone that they really did not want there.
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Hollywood BLVD says:

Flickr you've made changes before that I didn't like .. But THIS is horrid!

I usually invite people who are friends or family to all groups that I belong to & think they will like . I've received messages from many contacts weekly than king me for inviting them the a group. That was easy - just to go down the list and check their names - I know what my contacts like ... This new way is going to take so much time that I'm just going to stop inviting people to all these groups - period! I won't have the time to do it this new way ( and I'm in a LOT of groups) .

If others do the same it will make the groups grow much slower and be less effective in sharing their subject with others. Shouldn't you system help the groups grow instead of stagnate?

I join these others comments above and ask you to put it back the way it was ... No matter what you thought was wrong with the old way it couldn't be as bad as this! I'd really like to know why it was changed - what was so wrong with it the way it was.!!!
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teh resa says:

The thing is I don't want tens of thousands of members. I have various circles of people on my contacts and lots of them won't be working on the same kind of things and won't get it and I don't want to find myself booting their pictures. I want to be able to look through the list and choose the ones that I know will have the right kind of images. Also, I don't want to invite people who haven't reciprocated contact. It's not so easy to remember without opening another window and checking the "who calls you a contact" list. Also, I'm having problems with finding people who I know should come up when I type in the first letters of their screen name - they don't always come up. For example, one contact named area with an accent over the a comes up at the bottom of the alphabet. Others who have a period after the first initial are hard to find too.

You see this fix doesn't work for people who want to create large groups quickly and ALSO is a mess for people who want to create small groups with specific kinds of images.
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dopiaza  Pro User  says:

This is the stupidest thing ever. I just started a new group and I need to see the list!

Hmm. Yup. I can see that's a problem.
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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

This is really really difficult to use.

I've resorted to printing out the list of contacts in order to see them all at once.

I wouldn't mind a list of people who listed me as a contact, or even a list of people who were mutual contacts. But having to print 5 pages just to see who might want to join "Ephemeral Folk Art" (a small fraction of my contacts, at best) is silly.
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teh resa says:

colleenM: printing out is a good solution. Might try it. The only problem is the people with the weird characters in their screen names.
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Hollywood BLVD says:

I just tried this for 30 minutes and was able to invite 4 people in that time - I had to keep going from the invite page to my contact list - and then check the name to see if it was on the list of members or already invited people - then next I go and type in the names and - I find about 4 steps to do what used to take 1! Rediculous - SO I won't be inviting anhyone to any groups - it takes too much time.

I don't expect to see it changed back - I don't think I've ever seen flickr give in to the complaints, requests and pleading of the members. They won't change it back. Best not to waste my time here - I'll just accept the situation & stop inviting people to groups.

Buy the Way - printing out your list of contacts might work if you don't have too many - I have 52 pages of contacts.!
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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

Unfortunately, hobbling groups is a much more serious issue to the building of community than any of the cosmetic changes (purple Yahoo! logo, ads on Pro accounts, etc).

If you make it harder to create and nurture communities on Flickr, there becomes a point where it's easier to do so on other social networking sites. Especially if people are already flocking to those other sites.

Not a step forward for Flickr, in my mind.
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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

Hey there,

Just a quick update:

We do appreciate the feedback, really, it helps to understand how users use the site. And we are listening.

The former interface (but without the reverse contacts) is still accessible by adding this to the end of the invite page's URL:

&no_js=1

Just load up the invite page, copy/paste that to the end of the url in your browser's address bar, and you'll get the list and check boxes back. We're sorry if that's inconvenient. :/

The team will be exploring ways to address the problems you've brought up, but please know that we're about to enter a moratorium on deploys for the holidays. That means if we do decide on a different presentation, we won't be able to get to it until after the first of the year.

Hope that helps, and please do continue to provide us feedback. :)
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davе  Pro User  says:

one of the things i like about flickr over other social networking sites is i dont get spammed with new groups / events / fan pages(?!) every hour. you could argue as i've made these people my 'contacts' i've in fact signed up to them but that would just make me less likely use contacts at all.

i'm trying to work out what's changed. it seems people are annoyed by the fact that they have to think up a recipients name before sending them an invite. it doesn't seem to me to take away any community aspect but merely as a useful check to stop people gettin annoyed because the sender hasn't really given any thought to the invite.

i would have thought creating a group solely for the purpose of people to join if they wanted invites from any particular sender would be the best way to go. then a new comment in a discussion there would alert the members of a new group less intrusively plus it would be mutually consensual.
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clickykbd  Pro User  says:

PROTEST GROUP! (ohhh crap... how do we invite people?)

Sorry... couldn't be helped.
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teh resa says:

dave: did you READ the comments in this thread when you were trying to figure out what was going on?? I DO give thought to the invites. Start a group and try to invite people and you will see the problem.

I do agree that it is good to not encourage people to spam their contacts (or worse, their contacts who haven't reciprocated). Jakerome's solution of 50 per day would address that. This other thing of being forced into a game of "Name That Contact" is ridiculous. Its like forcing people to solve math problems or walk a straight line before they can be considered sober enough to start a fun flickr group.

A limit of 50 per day would allow new admins of large popular groups to begin inviting their contacts. It would allow people like me, starting small niche groups to get on with it. I would still prefer at least see my list.

I think for the sake of people who may want to start a large group, we should have the option of inviting all of our contacts at the time of the creation of the group. After that, 50 per day will allow new admins or mods to help grow the group.

zyrcster: I haven't tried it yet, but your solution should solve the problem for now. Thanks.
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teh resa says:

BTW, Name That Contact is a very fun game from Big Huge Labs. I didn't realize how fun it was until I tried it.

Being tested in the same way before starting a flickr group was NOT fun though.
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davе  Pro User  says:

Apologies Therrr i didn't mean it about anyone specifically. rather if everyone, including people less thoughtfull than yourself, are able to do this it does seem a bit spamerific.

the problem about getting any group going is always going to be an attention game, much like getting people to see particular photos or read particular messages you might want to convey. yet in both those other instances you can't just tick names off of a list and send away and i think for obvious reasons. i just think the same should be applied to group invites that's all.

(agreed... name that contact is great bar the spoilsports with their watermarks!)
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teh resa says:

Have you tried starting anything with just 3 or 4 people? a party maybe? doesn't work. No scene there.

Also, if as you say, you like flickr because you are not constantly being spammed with invites then it makes sense to assume that the system was fine before they brought in this change. You weren't getting spammed with invites.
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davе  Pro User  says:

but then i wouldn't be able to look forward to the day you make me a contact Therrr
: (

no, you're absolutely right in that respect (i even realised it when i was writing) and i shall maintain my silence now.
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Rubyboots  Pro User  says:

Well since my last post it's good to see I'm not alone in my preference to the old way of adding contacts to a group. As far as mass invites go, I learn to recognize those who do it and simply delete the invite. Hope to see this problem get resolved once the staff is back from their break.
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*mydiverdown*  Pro User  says:

I see that I'm not alone in disliking the new way, just late to the party
.
I read zyrcster's last post and see that I can add characters and get back to the old way of inviting contacts, I really don't care about inviting reverse contacts but when I want to invite new friends I don't want to have to remember some obscure code so I can see who the hell to invite. Yes it is Highly inconvenient.
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♥ shhexy corin ♥ says:


I do agree that it is good to not encourage people to spam their contacts (or worse, their contacts who haven't reciprocated


You have never been able to invite someone who doesn't count you as a contact.
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Neely, Ken says:

I agree, this is very frustrating when I need to invite a specific list of people to a private group. Please change it back or allow an option, the ability to invite an entire group of "family" would be nice also.

I teach photography and this is how my students communicate their projects to me. Thank you very much!
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teh resa says:

♥ shhexycorin ♥

I KNOW that. Did you read the fucking thread and who I was responding to before jumping in with your judgement, Jesus why are you even in this thread??? do you have an issue with the topic or do you just like to troll the help forum for comments to make judgements about??
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Neely, Ken says:

I just figured it out by adding : &no_js=1 when I want to invite people. Doesn't this seem like a major step backwards ?

I do appreciate the use of Flickr and all the great work Flickr has done for the public but it just seems very awkward.
Thanks and I hope the old system comes back or a way for one to be able to get their friends or family in a check list style. Thanks.
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*mydiverdown*  Pro User  says:

zyrcstr, are you saying if we want to use the invite feature like we have for years that we have to go to some place like yahoo notepad and copy the code every time we want to send invites or are we supposed to just keep it ready to paste at all times.

I run many groups and sometimes I'd like to invite some or all of my friends or family to a new group I inherit or get invited to and now it is a major pain in the a**.

Maybe I'll just come back to this thread and find the code.
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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

Hi *mydiverdown*,

For now, you can just copy/paste that code to the end of the url, bring up the page, and then bookmark the page if you like.
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*mydiverdown*  Pro User  says:

That would work for one group but I'd have to bookmark so many pages.
What was the reasoning behind this unneeded change?
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melcir.meri says:

Ohh no! Not another dreary and pointless battle of words and wits
with non-indulgent flickr demigods???? Boy they must love their
ivory tower, and rubbing it in whenever they can. Did ALL the good
guys jump staff ship already? -- Zyrcs are you the only voice crying
in the wind between us and the rest? What became of Kevin?
He had some humanity left. I don't know much about the others?
But it seems they love hating our needs goals and contributions?

THEY WOULDN"T DREAM OF CONSULTING FIRST
Look before you leap?

This nonsense is probably the death-knell of flickr.
We've already had more than enough to endure with all the
recent nonsense of Profile disfigurements from flickr.
Now they want to torment us further by deconstructing groups...!!!
A nest of strange goings on ... going ... going ... G!

Lets mass hive to a happy new home, but where?
Can't stand FACEBOOK. Too boring.
What are the other good options?
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Daisy A says:

Yes - A step in the wrong direction - why not make it a a checkbox option if you wish to see your invite list the old way. This change didn't appear to be made with much forethought. How long before the &no_js=1 directive is remove??
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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

Daisy A wrote

why not make it a a checkbox option if you wish to see your invite list the old way.
That would require them to reprogram the page, which takes time, translations, etc. The &no_js thing is just a workaround because the old page still exists but is not part of the user interface anymore. It certainly isn't intended to be the "new way" of getting the old method back. :)
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Texas Image Pro  Pro User  says:

Seriously -- it was a lot easier to see at a glance who I did not want to invite to the groups.

Maybe a better solution to all of this would be membership history? That way an admin could see which folks had been a member and dropped out of a group.

Keep me from having to constantly avoid invites for groups.
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teh resa says:

The code seems like a good temporary solution for now. It's a new change and it's nice to have some quick temporary way around it this soon. Hopefully when they have time to look more seriously at it a new solution will be well thought out. There is no rush. Better to wait and do it right.
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daboogieman says:

It wasn't broke, so they just HAD to go meddling with something.
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Patrick Q says:

I love the sense of community flickr has had in the past - This decision to ROAD BLOCK group invitations not only risks the continuity of what we've built here - it makes me question if the people who own flickr even remotely get what being a part of flickr is all about.

Therrr - thanks for what you said to dave.

Of course, I occasionally get an invite to an uninteresting group. Getting rid of that minute annoyance is not worth trading it for the MAJOR PAIN of inviting contacts to groups one contact at a time without a reference list.

At the very minimum, I'd like to see a list of contacts NOT invited rather than a list of those already invited....duh!
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Patrick Costello  Pro User  says:

I've been an active part of the Flickr community for many years and my pet hate was getting unsolicited SPAM group invitations. I'm quite capable of finding groups that interest me without them. Seems to me a sure fire way to break the Flickr community - I know I've dropped many contacts because they abused that facility.
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corchi24lh says:

I don't like getting so many invites. But I don't like this new way of sending invites. It would be nice to go back to the other way and be able to categorize your contacts some how so you could invite only your contacts that might be interested a group.
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Tinker*Tailor loves Lalka  Pro User  says:

I'm not the sort to mind getting an invitation...Are you?

I'm concerned that admins will never find the time to invite me individually to groups - that I'll be late to the party, if they invite me at all. It will make groups grow much more slowly - and some people (myself included) will be excluded from groups they would have enjoyed but never got invited to and never thought to search for it themselves.

My personal experience isn't the same as Mr. Costello's I'm not psychic - there are lots of new groups being started by my contacts about subjects that interest me - and I DON'T know about them and I don't think to look for them without getting a group invitation. The rare spam is worth being in-the-know. I appreciate notification when they start new groups - and I look forward to knowing what they are doing, even if I choose not to accept the invitation. It's fun to know somebody is having a party, even if you choose not to attend!
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Flickr Staff

Kevin says:

corchi24lh, for now you can append this to the end of an invitation URL- &no_js=1
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*mydiverdown*  Pro User  says:

Tinker*Tailor: As an Admin who has many groups I can understand where you are coming from, Since this change has happened I have sent exactly 2 invites and those were to a friend whose pictures I was inviting to a group they didn't belong to. I have several new friends that I haven't invited because it is such a pain and I don't have all day to spend inviting although I will be using the work around later today.
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j_pidgeon  Pro User  says:

I've just heard about the new one-at-a-time contact invitation feature. It's doesn't sound great from my point of view, but I don't get a lot of invites. I have a lot of contacts, and when I do start a new group (which is rare), I invite all of them to join.

I could understand limiting the number of invitations per day, but one-at-a-time seems a bit drastic, not to mention really inconvenient for group builders.
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melcir.meri says:

Kevin It's a nice suggestion, in theory. But my clunky system does not permit me to access or add to my URL line directly. I tried to cut and paste, but then I need to begin my lift-off from google. When I try to add-in your suggested add-on, google did not like this, and so it does not work, so google says:

Your search - www.flickr.com/groups_invite.gne?id=348618@N21&no_js=1 - did not match any documents.

In fact, I can only directly access my group home page, in this manner.

Hope you can work something out for overseas people on older equipment. With many new contacts per week, and no time to waste on slow, time-consuming tasks, many admins will throw in the towel.

If your team holds a discussion BEFORE doing a new project, on the problems which changes might cause, perhaps none of this angst and dissatisfaction will in future be an issue. Fingers crossed ...
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Lú_  Pro User  says:

melcir.meri wrote

When I try to add-in your suggested add-on, google did not like this, and so it does not work, so google says:

Your search - www.flickr.com/groups_invite.gne?id=348618@N21&no_js=1 - did not match any documents.

Don't use Google to find it -- put the URL directly in the web address bar of your browser. Google is a search engine and can only find pages it can search, not pages created for a particular task.
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Kevin says:

This is an address bar of the web browser we are talking about, this is not a hidden feature or a browser plugin.

Simply go to the group invite page where you get to type in the names of the people. in the address bar, add this at the end of the URL:

&no_js=1

then hit enter
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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

Kevin, melcir.meri is saying that the browser she uses does NOT have an address bar, so she can't access anything on the internet unless she clicks an existing link on another page.

Hmm... wonder if this has any bearing on the "group description lost after hours of editing"problem. An antiquated system that doesn't support direct entry of URLs is probably not one that Flickr even supports?
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Flickr Staff

Kevin says:

Brenda, the browser is IE8- I can't even find out how to remove the address bar.
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corchi24lh says:

Kevin Thanks. I had seen that before. It works good. Its just a little more hitting buttons. Its going to take awhile before people learn this. I can understand why it was done. I just think there can be a better way. Im sure you guys will do something. thanks again
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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

melcir.meri wrote

Your search - www.flickr.com/groups_invite.gne?id=348618@N21&no_js=1 - did not match any documents.
There you go. Click that link to open the page and then bookmark it.
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davе  Pro User  says:

But my clunky system does not permit me to access or add to my URL line directly.

are you in prison?
add the link to your group frontpage. it'll only work for admins presumably. you can make it look like this ( . ) for discreteness.
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melcir.meri says:

Guys, thanks!!!
Lu : Thanks -- see all below!!
Kevin: Didn't realize my ISP is so antique. I use a local server which is cost-effective. Needless to say, it is now obviously VERY antiquated. Working as a volunteer I can do no more.
Brenda: This does the trick!! Muchas gracias.
dave: [I'm stuck in paradise, dave. -- But it's no prison!!!] Thanks for your cool suggestion for very discreet link on page. It works fine if I click here on your version. But when I paste it into my group page, it does nothing ... What did I do wrong?

[Later, it's all figured out and working now. Thanks!!]
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Patrick Costello  Pro User  says:

Actually Kevin was pointing out that you have the latest version of Internet Explorer (IE8) and he doesn't know of any way that you won't have an address bar visible.
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davе  Pro User  says:

if the IE8 shortcut finishes with -k in the location. e.g. “C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE” –k

try pressing ctr-O to enter URLs.
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2mnedolz  Pro User  says:

thanks zyrcster - very helpful! i'm glad i tried it before getting upset about this change.

The former interface (but without the reverse contacts) is still accessible by adding this to the end of the invite page's URL:

&no_js=1

Just load up the invite page, copy/paste that to the end of the url in your browser's address bar, and you'll get the list and check boxes back.
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FRJunkie1981  Pro User  says:

Gosh this is a drag! they would make it much easier if u could access group members through the group itself and be able to send bulletins to the members of that group! and now it's gonna even be harder to do a bulletin. I hope flickr staff realizes there is a need to communicate with member of your different groups even if u don't add them all to your contacts.
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Weirena(MOSTLY OFF)  Pro User  says:

oh my god ... I have the same problem ..
I am admin in 40 groups and can no more invite from my contacts !!
help please !
thanks :-)
Irene
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♥ shhexy corin ♥ says:

I KNOW that. Did you read the fucking thread and who I was responding to before jumping in with your judgement, Jesus why are you even in this thread??? do you have an issue with the topic or do you just like to troll the help forum for comments to make judgements about??

Woah there, Therrr.... I wasn't judging at all, just saying. Maybe I misread what you were trying to say but there was no need to get all aggro (and, strangely enough, judgemental) on me.
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PitsPerv 2 says:

I agree with other members who have commented on the change in process for inviting contacts. It was a bad change and makes growing group membership nearly impossible. I need to see a list of my contacts. Please change back to the old way. This is the worst change Flickr has made, in my opinion.
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WoofSD says:

I hate this change - any Flickr customer service we can complain to?
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teh resa says:

donuts are great!
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armuss says:

do invitations makes the group a quality group then?
at least should have on a free internet, i eblieve all of them just to satisfy an ego of a megalomaniac
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Flickr Staff

zyrcster says:

Hey folks,

Thanks for your continued feedback on this topic.

Please do, however, refrain, from getting into personal attacks, namecalling, and the like. We will be giving time outs to users who cannot be civil toward one another on the Forum. I can understand angst directed at staff, but please let go of the back and forth ugliness otherwise.
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FRJunkie1981  Pro User  says:

Agree with zycster, took me a while to read it all up, hope flickr staff can switch this or make it more efficient, or at least back to what it was. How about a way to communicate with people in your groups? like an inter group advisory/flickrmail??
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daboogieman says:

Therrr

Be careful, telling the truth in this forum may lead to "unsafing" ,"temporary(PERMANENT) banning" and or deletion.

This forum is reserved for smart a**** er, alecks and psychophants.
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

And donut lovers!
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melcir.meri says:

I think it was the 'naughty corner' that was being hinted at!! :-))
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

[edited at the request of user, who has removed their comment.]
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jakerome  Pro User  says:

Please do, however, refrain, from getting into personal attacks, namecalling, and the like... please let go of the back and forth ugliness.
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The Searcher  Pro User  says:

Sorry jakerome, couldn't help it. I'll leave the rest of the back and forth to you.
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teh resa says:

fourmilex: indeed
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