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shashamane While I agree that these changes are needless (just my opinion) and silly, I do think it would be impossible for flickr to implement changes without the approval or consultation of the majority of users. Considering the millions of users, that would be a daunting task.
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"SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI wrote LU always the flickr appoligist, duh, My husband is a software QA manager. My statement above has everything to do with what I know about the industry from the many years he's worked for it and nothing to do with my feelings about Flickr. I'd like some changes to the Profile implementation too -- some of it really annoys me (though you must have missed that part of the topic) -- but that doesn't mean I believe they can be made instantly on demand.
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very true, and I did not phrase things very well in my post, was thinking more along the lines of testing public opinion and canvassing either through a poll or a questionnaire before springing these changes upon us. It is the shock of it which makes things worse imho. Just some warning, somewhere that people would see, of possible changes would have been good PR at least.
Somebody made an extremely good analogy earlier in the thread, likening it to something akin to a landlord entering one's property in our absence and re-arranging all the furniture and changing the decor. This was exactly how I felt at the change.
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"Flickr more than 80% are paying members"
33,600,000 of the 42,000,000 users are paying customers!?!? i seriously doubt that. rather, i would be shocked.. and maybe even awed.. then again, what do i know.
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My software qualifications are similar to Lù's (husband in the business since he cut his teeth on Titan in the Maths Lab in Cambridge (UK) in the 60s) and his reaction is that if the flickr techies can't revert to the previous profile page to the extent of removing the "In my own words" bit, then there is something wrong with the flickr techies or (much more likely in my opinion) the flickr management.
He can't speak for himself here because he got thrown out for refusing to join Yahoo.
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Kevin: Your email was always viewable to yourself. It still respects what your preferences are set.
But, in the old layout it also said something along the lines of not being visible to everyone. Now it gives the impression that everyone can see it and, requires a click or two to another page to verify that Y! hasn't altered my preferences on me. The revamp is just going to confuse people and, make more work for you.
Add me to the list of those who can't stand the pretentiousness of "In my own words" and, that favourites are on my profile page.
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or (much more likely in my opinion) the flickr management.
Correct, Florrie. It's easy to remove "In My Own Words" without breaking the page layout (if, indeed, that is a problem) by inserting non-breaking spaces where that current text is.
If Flickrbook® from Yahoo!® staff haven't already managed to call a meeting about this and come to a decision which takes into account the opinions expressed here, one really must wonder about their competence.
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it it's a mess it's the result of incompetence, flickr you need a new department manager for this stuff
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I would like to know if this topic ( Official Topic New Profile Page )
exists in those languages too :
Arabic
Chinese (traditional)
French
German
Italian
Korean
Portuguese (Brazilian)
Spanish
This is your list of languages used on Flickr.
There are many users on Flickr not speaking or writing English.
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myjuditz:
..There are Help Forums in the eight languages shown at the bottom of each page on Flickr (Arabic isn't listed)
..These are not translations of this English language forum, they are separate and independent forums ..For example, the German help forum does have a "hot topic" for profile changes ..There are 15 responses posted
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I switched on French and hardly found an almost similar topic,
lost amongst other topics.
It isn't posted on the top page as it is here,
and there aren't updates from staff.
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It should be a "hot topic" in the French Forum,
the majority there is having a negative feedback.
Independent maybe, but the one answering to them
is someone from staff - shamir™
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Arabic is listed in Wikipedia according to Flickr.
If there isn't Arabic on the list, perhaps 42 millions users
is also another false information.
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"Flickr is better than Facebook !"
You may read and comment, here :
www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/21/flickr-adds-people-tagging-...
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Hello everyone / Good evening for us :))
@ myjuditz : "It should be a "hot topic" in the French Forum"
(lol)
At first, I beg your pardon for my very bad English… :-)
Yes, there is a similar topic on the French forum. Until this morning, it was on the top page… but the staff removed it to put it with the other topics ??? As if it wasn’t topical (a current event) or maybe by putting it there, they think Flickr members are going to forget or to give up… ? ? ! I don't know...
That said, yes... the French people are as angry as you (for the same reasons). Maybe even angrier (we are Latins and we are hot-headed / have a short fuse ? :-))
(I'm not sure for that expression ("avoir le sang chaud" in French))
Of course, there are less comments / complaints than on the English forum... but it's logical because there are less French-speaking ;)
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Not a huge fan of the profile changes. Seeing as it's an "About Me" page to give people who are interested a little more information, why then delete all my interests?? My two cents...
1) Get rid of the "In my own words" heading. It's silly.
2) Put the testimonials back where they belong on the right side (why mess with a brilliant use of space??)
3) Bring back the "interests" section!!!
4) Get rid of the favorites and groups on the profile page... it makes it too cluttered (while there's miles of empty space on the right)!! The way you had it before was fine, so why mess with it??
I think you guys need a huge banner on your wall to remind yourselves: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!"
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@myjuditz :
"mostly artistic photography.."
have you "ever" randomly browsed random users streams? i think not.
"you don’t have a pro account – $24.95, you won’t be able to delete your photos if you want to leave"
i have a paid as well as free accounts, am pretty sure i have deleted entire streams and shut shop...
"Flickr will soon lose many of its loyal photographers users, to become another common “social” site"
yes, we keep on hearing this mantra everytime anything comes up.. yet, here we are, people still threatening, not actually leaving...
i am puzzled at why someone purporting to like flickr basically badmouths flickr else-where on the internet, and even at that, with some seriously wrong facts...
this really irritates me. i can think of 10-15 things right off the bat i really dislike abt flickr, yet, i still think it's the best site for me out there, and constantly encourage others to join. if i designed my own personal site, i probably would think of 10-15 things i would dislike at any given time.
why spread falsehoods?
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yes, we keep on hearing this mantra everytime anything comes up.. yet, here we are, people still threatening, not actually leaving...
Many German users I know left to go to Ipernity when internationalization was introduced because of the restrictions imposed on their accounts. Many have not come back to Flickrbook® from Yahoo!® (or visit very infrequently).
Also see this comment.
Quite a few Brazilian users who came over here from Fotolog went back there when Yahoo!® bought out Flickr, and haven't returned.
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OK -- So, if you are now also using any happier but similar group, do add this to your profile too.
We CAN create an en-masse 'vote' with a personal PROFILE PROTEST: -- About 1/4 of my PROFILE page is now my PROTEST at flickr's latest authoritarian redesign dictates. -- www.flickr.com/people/melcir-selfportraits-2006/ So ... create your PROTEST, and add the URL here to your page.
If users en-masse all do something similar it will be a mighty gesture of protest, -- Then the flickr team must listen! -- Invite the world's media to visit our PROFILE PROTESTS!!!
Not only is the "in my own words" a nonsense, and the enforced re-modelling of 'testimonials' is tyrannical , but dear flickr -- you have forced upon all customers an actual lie with the FAVORITES issue. ... Hence:
FAVORITES FARCE: No, I do NOT 'choose' which FAVORITES will appear here. -- This is an UNTRUTH!!! -- These are just my most recent FAVES. [Again, flickr this is downright dumb! -- Do you want loyal, and happy members who appreciate and adore you, or downtrodden flickr-members who seek greener pastures? -- Please, go back. You need a 'Let's all live happily ever after' sign. Don't become "FREE RADICALS" whose design is to damage and destroy customer joy.]
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Here's just a general observation not aimed at any one person, but based on the many posts I've read in this thread over the last few days.
So, you don't like the wording Flickr has put on your profile because it, what? might give visitors a bad impression? Might make any of your potential clients think you aren't a good photographer or something?
So, a visitor comes to your profile and instead of seeing information about you, they see a big negative post (rant?) at the top. And that is not going to turn them off MORE than seeing the words "in my own words" at the top?
Let's say you are not sending people to your profile in a professional manner... just some random person happens by because they've seen your photos and want to know more about you. But what they see is some long diatribe against Flickr. Will that make them more likely to want to 'contact' you?
It seems that self-saboutage is not really an effective method because it just makes you look bad. If I wasn't a member of Flickr and I saw a big protest on a profile, I'd think, why are they using a site that they hate so much?
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@stoneßu∂∂ha :
You have two contacts in your profile
and you belong to not one group.
You are asking me if I ever browsed users streams ?
I have 242 contacts, I am in 161 groups,
and administrate 6 groups.
34.772 favorite photos in 3 years on Flickr.
I browsed much more streams than you could ever imagine.
And if you are puzzled and irritated ,
please find someone else to stalk here.
Regards.
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Let's say you are not sending people to your profile in a professional manner... just some random person happens by because they've seen your photos and want to know more about you. But what they see is some long diatribe against Flickr. Will that make them more likely to want to 'contact' you?
Why not, Brenda? At least it shows that I'm able to form my own opinion and have the guts to stand up against large organizations who foist unwanted changes on their users. Some people value people who stand up for their principles, and, if they don't, then, frankly, I'm quite happy if they don't contact me.
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I support any & all Flickr protests as long as it doesn't involve sending obnoxious protest schlock art*** to hundreds of groups where it doesn't belong.
*** By definition, donut art is never schlocky.
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Jim Skea wrote Why not, Brenda? It depends entirely what is written on the profile, methinks. One can (and some do) express disagreement without ranting.
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It seems that where I see somebody with passion for their photography, a concern for their presentation, and a defence of principles, you prefer to see "diatribe" and "ranting".
[Excuse me if I'm "ranting".]
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"Arabic is listed in Wikipedia according to Flickr."
myjuditz, anyone can edit Wikipedia. You can edit Klingon or Elvish into that list. No one "owns" Wikipedia content so it's not official information. The list of languages supported is at the footer of this page.
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Of course, the ultimate protest, would be to delete your pro-account and leaving flickr altogether.
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No Elvish language support?!
*runs off to form protest group*
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Of course, the ultimate protest, would be to delete your pro-account and leaving flickr altogether.
Like removing Windows from your laptop even though it came with the computer and the price you paid includes the licence?
Cut off my nose to spite my face?
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Jim Skea wrote [Excuse me if I'm "ranting".] as far as I'm concerned, you aren't ranting here or on your profile.
Let's just agree that everyone has different ideas on what may or may not leave a positive impression on visitors to one's profile.
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Remember Jim, it's OK to mock people to get upset over Flickr site changes as long as that site change doesn't bother you. But if you're being mocked for complaining about a site change, then the mockers are bullies that should be tarred and feathered.
Once you understand that, everything makes a lot more sense. Me? I'll stick to passive-aggressive mocking and satirical protests interspersed with genuine advice.
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I cannot understand why so few are so desirous of garnering such meagre attention to themselves for the sake of belittling all those who dislike the changes being made to the Flickr site.
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How about belittling those who like the changes being made to Flickr site?
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Brenda, your comments are never belittling. But there are others who seem to enjoy baiting the many people who have (to my mind) very legitimate complaints about the changes being made to the site.
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As I already said Kevin, probably all information there is
wrong or false, Flickr records included.
Thank you for the link to Elvish, I am sure
it solves our complains here.
Perhaps we all need to speak
Klingon to make ourselves clear ?
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same as lot of people up here
the mention "in my own words" really sucks big time
people might really think I wanted to display it
everything else rocks (not to mention the people in photo stuff wich is really good)
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And finally the topic devolves to the point to where Flickr staff doesn't care about us anymore.
Honestly, I have never paid for my own pro account, so I don't feel as if my opinion really matters, but if I did ever happen to have to pay for one, I sure as hell would want the changes made to the website to be ones that I don't look at and think "Really, Flickr?" I'd like them to be much more useful (tagging people is a good example of that)...but when I see these useless changes like the adding of the phrase "In my own words..." to the top of my profile, that makes everything else that I've come to designate my creative abilities in making my profile seem like worthless crap that Yahoo needs to tell everyone in bold font. It's totally not needed, just like the Yahoo in the new logo.
The worst part is that since none of us can ever agree on these decisions because some of us are only out to get Flickr and other people are afraid to say anything bad about Flickr because they want that dream job that they know that their version of helping out would give them, they aren't going to care about what we have to say. Honestly people, if we really want to make Flickr into what it was in the first place, a place where the input of all the users was taken into deep consideration and the website was made into something that we created ourselves, then we have to stop fighting against each other for petty reasons. If we can't do that, then we've already lost the battle and and Flickr will never listen to us.
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I’m pulling on my asbestos underwear to bring you an update regarding the new member profile:
1) It was never our intention to make you all sound "exactly like the same artfag wankers": (except maybe you, Shexy) and you'll be pleased to read that "In my own words..." will be scrubbed from your member profiles sometime either late tonight (Monday) or tomorrow (Tuesday).
2) We're working on a tool/page/utility that will give your "interests" information back to you. We'll provide a link to it either this or next week.
3) We're looking into how groups are ordered and we're going to turn a few knobs and levers as it's a little clunky. Stay tuned.
4) For now, "Photos of you", “Your favorite photos from other Flickr members" and your "Testimonials" will remain as they are.
Onward!
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Can't you even consider giving users the possibility of whether or not they want their favourites or photos of themselves that other have tagged to be displayed on their profiles?
Just a little on/off configuration option?
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Thank you so much for listening to us Heather. You give me hope in Flickr.
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note the "For now" in Heather's reply... they have 9+ pages of responses that i'm pretty positive guarantee they are at least "considering" those points, the harmonious implementation of a compromise between all the views may be on the horizon "soon". (glass is half full).
I just looked. "In my own words..." is gone... let the revelry begin! *buys a round*
;-)
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Any word on Luddite.Flickr.com? I'm dying for that option.
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It's gone now! Oh joy that horrid term "In my own words..." is gone. I wonder if it's going to be added to the list of commercial debacles like "New Coke". Thanks!
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Now if we can get rid of those favorites. I think I might be pushing it.
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[my joke might be taken personally, so I've removed it so as not to cause offense to anyone]
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Brenda, do let them be...
This is wonderful news!
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Thanks Flickr! For deleting that “in my own words“ weird thing.
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Wonderful. Thanks for listening, and thanks for acting. It is truly appreciated.
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Thanks Heather & tech staff for removing "In my own words..."! (The 3 dots were the icing on the cake.) I appreciate that you've acknowledged our complaints and taken them seriously.
I still don't want my favourites on my profile page. A choice at the very least.
And I'd like to see my groups back to a double column format, in its entirety on my profile page.
Looking forward to getting my interests back.
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I am sufficiently displeased with the changes to speak up here. I didn't care for the "In my own words" and am happy to know that it's getting the boot. Regarding the things that bother me most, the outlook is not so bright:
"4) For now, "Photos of you", “Your favorite photos from other Flickr members" and your "Testimonials" will remain as they are."
If someone wants to identify me in a photo, that's fine. Just don't plop it onto my profile against my wishes. I could get rid of it by deleting myself from their photo, but I don't necessarily want to do that. I just don't want it in the middle of my profile.
With respect to favorites, they aren't my photos, they don't need to show on my profile. I could go and bookmark them all and then delete my favorites, but I'd rather not have to resort to that.
I find that having the favorites in the middle of profiles drives me away from that person's profile and photostream. I take a look at the profile to learn more about the person. Right away, a favorite catches my eye, then -- click -- I'm gone.
My suggestion: allow users to turn off "Photos of you" and favorites in the profiles.
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I still hold firm on demanding an opt-out for having photos of us and favorites on our profiles. But thanks ever so much for removing "in my own words..." :)!
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It's nice not to see "in my own words..." Thank you, Flickr admin, for removing it and for "working on" the groups issues. However, I don't understand why you insist on retaining "for now" (forever?) the other changes that so many object to: the "photos of you," one's favorites on one's Profile page, and the location of testimonials at the bottom of the page instead of on the right side, where they are easily visible. Can you explain why you won't act on your customers' requests?
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I like those things on my profile (photos, faves), so I would support a ''user setting" for determining if they appear so those who don't want it can have it removed.
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I'm all for spreading the good word of my friends and favorite flickr users, but i'm really not a fan of the new thumbnails of "favorites" added to user's main profile page.
It's just too confusing for people not familiar with flickr. Anyone who comes to my page looking for my images will most likely click on my "favorites" thinking they're my images and be redirected to another user's profile. Honestly, I'll probably just stop favoriting images and delete my currents to fix this if this is a permanent change.
I hope this is the place to comment on this.
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jublin wrote most likely click on my "favorites" thinking they're my images Just for reference, when people visit your profile, it says:
jublin's favorite photos from other Flickr members (530)
So, yes, if they don't read the heading they might very well think they are your photos, and yes, a user setting whether to display them or not would be nice.
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There's an old Brazilian story that goes something like this.
A landlord has a tenant who is a real pain in the neck, always complaining about how he pays his rent on time, but there are always little problems around the house that never seem to get fixed.
One day the landlord decides to sort out his tenant, and, while the tenant is out for the day, he puts a goat, a cow, a sheep and a chicken in his house. The tenant returns to find the collection of animals and, every day, calls the landlord to complain. After a week, the landlord returns to the house and takes away the goat.
"Thank you! Thank you for taking the goat out of my living room!" says the tenant. And he lived happily ever after with the cow, sheep and chicken.
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Heather said: "For now, "Photos of you", “Your favorite photos from other Flickr members" and your "Testimonials" will remain as they are."
Might this change in the near future? I really don't like my favorites being in my profile. An opt-out would be a great option. And that giant unused white space on the right wants its Testimonials back.
It's nice to not see the "In my own words..." at the top of the page.
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heather Thanks for the update and thanks for removing that needless "In my own words" from the profile page. As for the "For now...." part of your update, I hope that the Flickr staff is seriously considering placing options to toggle things on and off or other applicable options on the profile. That would solve most of the issues aside from the placement of the testimonials.
Change doesn't happen overnight, but for now....thank you.
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Finally! THANK YOU HEATHER & TEAM!
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i hardly think responding to people is "stalking". except maybe when one person does it to others, it's ok, but when others do it to them, they find it.. difficult.
although stating numbers may have the potential of making one look clever, it is no guarantee...
@Brenda Anderson: i have been wondering abt the self-sabotage myself... seems if i owned stock in a company, unless i was selling short, undermining or bad-mouthing that company would seem counter-productive.
but i am clearly happy they got rid of the silly "in my..", can put my profile text back up.
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I finally removed my lengthy protest comment in my profile! It had been there since the first hours of the initial change 5 days ago. The top of my profile is back to normal now.
Thank you Heather and staff for removing the awful, very invasive and inappropriate
以我的文字表達...;
In meinen eigenen Worten...
In my own words...
En mis propias palabras...
Qui suis-je... (which means Who am I...)
자기소개
A parole mie...
Em minhas próprias palavras...
People kept talking about "In my own words..." but most did not know that it was actually worse. Each person looking in the Flickr language version saw a phrase in THAT language which often did not even match the language in which the profile description was written. For example, a person using the Spanish version would see "En mis propias palabras..." atop words in another language. That made no sense.
Most importantly, we are now in full control of what is written in the description part of our profile, as it should be.
As for the rest, I will assume that our negative reaction to all of the changes is too overwhelming for the moment. I think that Flickr staff needs to take time to digest and plan for new changes before even letting us know that they might be considered in the near future. If you understand that the very best service you can offer us is to give us the choice of how we present our own profile, you will plan a new profile filled with options. That will take time. For the moment, you cannot make promises so you say nothing that will encourage us. If I am guessing correctly, then that is fine.
As long as we eventually get what we ask for, a profile with several options instead of an imposed layout, we will be happy. Consider our Flickr account and especially our profile as our own book. We each want it to reflect who we are.
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Yay! Dear Flickr ... you are returning to the family of humanity!
Still a way to go, but you're on the mend and your fever is dropping.
Need lots of fresh air and community fun to bring you back fully.
Meantime, thanks for removing the stranglehold on our Profiles.
Next, it would be wonderful if the revered testimonials are
returned to pride of place -- as before, to right of Profile text -- please.
And the FAVORITES should state they are just the one's most
recently FAVed. -- Or provide option to delete this altogether, for
those who want them off ...
I've adjusted my PROFILE to reflect your reflection on our requests,
ie. there is one less protest there now.
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Thanks!
Only TESTIMONIALS WILL FIT MUCH BETTER ON RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE BEFORE.
Than site will look more ELEGANT than now.
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Thanks flickr! :o) !!!
P.s. I've removed my ugly profile protest too and am a happy flickrite again!
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Woo hoo :)
It may only be four short words - but boy it makes the page look better. Thanks for listening! And blast you, Jakerome! :)
Now - if we could have user choice as to which of the units we display on our profile - that would be very cool.
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Mags_cat edited this topic 32 months ago.
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Four words, but who's counting?
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Thank you Heather and Flickr as a whole!!!
looking forward to what can be done about the faves in the next go-round of alterations...
it is a start and the "listening" is appreciated...
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Thanks for doing some of what people have asked here.
The favorites-on-profile really need to be optional.
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Hi. Could you please tell me how i can remove the favourites thumbnails from my Profile?
Thank you.
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Thank you Heather - for listening, for the update, and for removing that phrase. A much better day for Flickr.
Ps: these are my own words ;)
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heh heh heh
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Hmmm... I miss In My Own Words...
It looks like something is missing!
BRING IT BACK!
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Ah, I fixed it.
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♥ shhexy corin ♥ edited this topic 32 months ago.
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I really dont like being directly underneath Shexy. But oh well. :-)
Thanks for at least doing a tiny bitof what was ridiculous in the first place Heather.
But please tell us if your going to give us a choice for favourites to be displayed there, or tell us if your not,or tell us if you havent decided yet.
Just let us know which way your going on this.
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:(
bullying!
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And now im sandwiched between her! :-)
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I'm curious why people don't like their faves on the profile page????
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For me its partly cos flickr announces them as my favourite photoson flickr, when in actual fact its MY photos which are my favourites. I know it sats from other flickr members, but i have already had people ask me why i dont put my favourite photos there! Cos Flickr wont bloody allow it!
Have a look at my faves, there is nothing embaressing about them as such. Its just that the impression it gives is that i think those photos are well done or particularly good. When in actual fact there are numerous reasons why i fave others shots. Whats happening now is that im bookmarking them on my cmp rather than faving them anymore here. So now the persons whose shot it is doesnt know im interested in it unless i leave a comment (which of course i often do)
I just want my profile to be about me, and not what i choose to fav on flickr for whatever reason.
Others may have different reasons of course.
:-)
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Thank you for removing the "In your own words..."
I want to repeat that I feel it would be good if the faves could be made optional, possibly along with other sections, but I realise that a change like that is not as simple as removing some text.
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I'm curious why people don't like their faves on the profile page
Pretty much what austenhaines said - it's my profile and I think the information there should be only about me. I'd like to control the content on it as far as possible.
I don't think faves necessarily convey anything useful or relevant about me. And anyway, they have their own page already if anyone is interested in them.
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why i dont put my favourite photos there!
You can put your favourites of your own pictures in your profile though, lots of people already do that.
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Not under the heading where people look to see my favourite photos
My favourite photos on flickr are in fact all of my shots before anyone elses.
Their photos are often better but certainly not more favourite than m own.
There is already a link to photos i have faved on flickr, so why are they displaying them now on my profile?
Just want to know the reasons why, as well as given staff my reasons why not.
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heh, okay.
my favourite photos inevitably belong to my contacts, I guess that's where we differ.
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And thats cool of course. :-)
I really wouldnt mind if there was a link on my profile pages, or even if it was a drop down that i could close (though i would prefer this being down the bottom of my profile page, as i think the testomonials someone writes about me says a lot more about me than the photos which i have faved).
Im trying not to just say eerrghh i dont like it, but i would like to understand why flickr have put them there, and im also trying to find a middle ground with flickr to keep most people happy
:-)
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I acknowledge that the silly In my own words ... bit has been removed from the profile pages. I'm with Jim in likening this to goat removal, and I'm disturbed by the fact that it makes nonsense of all the stuff we were told about nothing being changed until after a big consideration of all the feedback etc etc. Why on Earth does flickr say things if they're not going to stand by them? I try to believe what people say - I like to trust people. It just doesn't help if they then make a monkey out of me by revealing that I was taken in by their hogwash.
(Why is all this zoology creeping in to my message?)
And I hope that lù has learned that all the mumbo-jumbo that surrounds software changes in big corporations isn't part of core software activity.
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@ austen
No, i understand.
i'm sure at some point they'll make it possible to personalise profiles in the same way Face Book does (i never got to grips with it there though)...but it does seem that they're going down that route.
And I'll probably opt out of most of it and keep it as simple as possible :)
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Yes I agree, testimonials on the right, get rid of the faves and groups! Waste of space.
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thanks for removing that phrase ... I think it was my biggest gripe of the new layout ;) hopefully the testimonials can be returned to their place and the faves we can have a choice about.
not really bothered about the groups, to be honest, and the font size with dates for testimonials was definitely an improvement, just a shame that they then felt devalued by the placement at the bottom of the page. personally, I am more proud of my testimonials than anything else on my profile and it feels direspectful to the writers to have them stored away at the "back of the cupboard".
maybe these changes will come, but for now, thanks where it is due, for listening to the overwhelming view of those that expressed an opinion here on "in my own words ... " ;)
there was no need to redesign the wheel is simply what a lot of us felt .... ;)
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I'm glad some sanity prevailed and "In my own words..." is now banished.
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Thanks for removing 'in my own words'.
Still not crazy about having to have the favourites though.
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raggle taggle edited this topic 32 months ago.
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Hey FLICKR people!!!...THANK YOU for deleting the "In my own words" thing! We appreciate you listening and being responsive.
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removing a few words doesn't make the page look any less amateurish,
a primary school kid could come up with a better looking layout than the one we have been forced to use. next we will have galleries on it as well i suppose,it's the only thing you have missed. who needs your own pictures in your own profile,lets totally fill it with everyone elses. yeh great idea guys ,doing a great job there.
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*nacnud* - I completely agree.
We win a battle, not the war.
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glad that "in my own word" is gone! :)
Found a fun way to use "favorite" as a message board though. You can write two lines and 12 characters - or blank it all out.
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That you for taking away the "In my own words"
But please give us the option to not display favorites on our profiles. Why am I forced to display other people's photos on my own profile?
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Let me add my voice to the choir of happy - and thankful - people.
It's all too easy to bark when unhappy, and forget to say anything nice when happy, so - thanks for listening.
I've suddenly have got high hopes for the favorites-in-profile thingy. either make it optional (best, imho) or replace it with interesting-in-profile (a cool replacement idea.) As said earlier, I *love* accessing others' favorites - it is my most-used feature here to discover cool images, by *far* - but maybe not straight in the people's profile itself.
Still - thanks for lending an half-ear, it's a good start.
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*nacnud
i think the problem is flickr was started as, and has always been, a photo sharing site, and however much some of us may treat it as our own personal website, it's not...i figure they're just trying to encourage exploring other people's pictures, that's all.
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Thank you for removing the phrase that so many objected to...
I still really hope that the profile will be more customizable or modular - deleting or moving sections around as we may see fit. Plenty of websites allow this, and as paying members, I don't see why this can't be accommodated reasonably. I understand when free sites like Facebook make changes and users have to learn to live with a lot of that, but Flickr is a bit different.
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shashamane While I agree that these changes are needless (just my opinion) and silly, I do think it would be impossible for flickr to implement changes without the approval or consultation of the majority of users. Considering the millions of users, that would be a daunting task.
very true, and I did not phrase things very well in my post, was thinking more along the lines of testing public opinion and canvassing either through a poll or a questionnaire before springing these changes upon us. It is the shock of it which makes things worse imho. Just some warning, somewhere that people would see, of possible changes would have been good PR at least.
heather Thanks for the update and thanks for removing that needless "In my own words" from the profile page. As for the "For now...." part of your update, I hope that the Flickr staff is seriously considering placing options to toggle things on and off or other applicable options on the profile. That would solve most of the issues aside from the placement of the testimonials. 
I'm curious why people don't like their faves on the profile page
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