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So I created a Gallery?
It's not on my photostream, and I can't change the layout to see Galleries
It's not on my profile.
Duh! It's in My Galleries. Kinda like Favorites only way way better.
Off to hone my curating skills.
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Hey Colleen, there is a link to your galleries from both your photostream and your You menu.
www.flickr.com/photos/me/galleries/
:)
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Cool. I just spotted the icon mid-comment. Looking forward to further investigation.
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Are you going to move this to groups as well? So we can have galleries in groups?
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I just ran to change my settings to "no, I don't want my stuff in galleries" (I was never good at sharing).
The feature is nifty, but I don't think the default should be to allow our stuff to be in someone else's gallery. The user should have to opt into that. I predict a flurry of "so and so is posting my photos in his account" threads.
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I hear you RubyMae, but it makes a certain amount of sense given that everything else defaults to arms-wide-open sharing. I think it would be more confusing if only one thing defaulted to not-share and all the rest (blog this, all sizes, etc) defaulted to share.
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I know I'm impatient, but will there be a galleries API coming anytime soon?
(The whole galleries thing is very cool, BTW)
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If the default was to opt-in for most of the features found on flickr, like commenting, fav'ing, the API etc., flickr wouldn't be as interesting or as successful.
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beautiful. i haven't even made my own gallery yet, but have been included in a couple and love the thoughtfulness and creativity of how people are using this feature.
i'm seconding galleries for groups. those would be nice to have.
RubyMae, while they're at it, flickr should make favourites "opt in" as well, right? yeesh.
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Heya RubyMae,
We do have messaging when another user adds your photos to a gallery. We sent a mail to you when that happens which also explains what galleries are, how to opt-out of them, or how to just remove your photo from that gallery.
Colleen, feature requests are good feedback, thanks.
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Feedback: Yay for the galleries, they ... rock!
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Ugh. This is almost exactly the sort of layout and organization I would have liked to see for my own sets or groups of images.
Except I can't make galleries of my own content.
So close.
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The first time a photo or video is added to a gallery, you'll receive a FlickrMail like the following:
Subject line: "Hey heather, [screen name] has added your photo to their gallery."
Body Copy:
Hi heather,
This is a quick note from FlickrHQ to let you know that [screen name] has added your photo to their gallery:
[thumbnail of your photo/video]
Here’s a link to the gallery:
URL
Galleries is a new feature on Flickr that enables the curation of other members public photos. If you haven’t stumbled across one yet, here are a few of our favourites:
www.flickr.com/galleries
You can control who can add your public photos and videos to galleries via the following account preference:
www.flickr.com/account/prefs/galleries
To find out how to remove your photo or video from any gallery, and for more info on galleries, check out the FAQs:
www.flickr.com/help/galleries/
This is a one-time message from Team Flickr. In the future, when your photos or videos are added to a gallery, it will show in your Recent Activity and via Email Notifications.
Regards,
The Flickreenos
Replies to this email will bounce. If you need assistance, please contact us via Help by Email:
www.flickr.com/help/contact/
Turn on Email Notifications to be notified about your Recent Activity:
www.flickr.com/account/?tab=email
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Members will be notified and then can determine early on whether or not they want to participate.
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Does blocking someone remove your images from their galleries? Does it keep them from adding any more of your images?
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Colleen, yes and yes.
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Does blocking someone remove your images from their galleries? Does it keep them from adding any more of your images?
Yes... and if you've already blocked them, they won't be able to add your photos or video. I've updated the "block" FAQ:
Another Flickr member is making me uncomfortable. What can I do?
www.flickr.com/help/contacts/#96
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Will stats show/reflect gallery views? i.e. If an image is viewed in a gallery will this be reflected in the stats?
Also will an image viewed in a gallery context count as a view or would it only count if someone clicked through to your image page?
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The Searcher
I'll make a gallery for you. ;-)
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Can these be embedded somehow? Similar to the way that you can "blog this" or "share this" for an individual picture?
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slideshows for galleries would be useful.
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Nice. :)
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Would be nice to see an RSS feed for www.flickr.com/galleries/
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Hey elemental Paul, you asked, Will stats show/reflect gallery views? i.e. If an image is viewed in a gallery will this be reflected in the stats?
Yes, views from galleries ought to be listed in your stats if the viewer clicks through to your photo page. Image view counts only register when a viewer clicks through to the photo page.
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coooooool !!
:~)
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I have a suggestion for the drop down menu when you click on the little arrow next to a user's avatar - you should add galleries. Right now I can click that to access their photostream or favorites, but not their galleries. Perhaps I've missed something obvious but right now, I can only get to someone else's galleries if I go to their photostream, first.
(Just to get rid of the redundant "right now")
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Ah okay, if someone is viewing a gallery featuring your image a view only registers on a click through. That makes sense.
So will there be an indication that a view came via a gallery click through in the referring domain stats breakdown then?
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RubyMae wrote I have a suggestion for the drop down menu when you click on the little arrow next to a user's avatar - you should add galleries. Right now I can click that to access their photostream or favorites, but not their galleries. Perhaps I've missed something obvious but right now, I can only get to someone else's galleries if I go to their photostream, first. That's a terrific idea :)
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And if real estate is a problem, I'd much rather see someone's Galleries than their Favorites.
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how long does it take before the "notification" flickr email is sent out?
if i add a photo to a gallery accidentally, do i get some time to remove it before the notification is sent?
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Or ditch their tags, or archives (in response to Colleen's comment about sparse real estate)
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Related to 's question; if you remove a photo from a gallery, is the person notified? (One would hope not, as that could lead to a lot of unwanted flickrmail exchanges)
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cool, just made one to test, and I like :)
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Great great great feature! Thank you very much.
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how long does it take before the "notification" flickr email is sent out?
Alas, like other forms of notification, it should happen immediately.
if you remove a photo from a gallery, is the person notified?
No, galleries behave like favourites and contacts in that members are not notified.
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Thanks, Flickr, awesome feature addition!
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Feature request: I'd like to be able to have a "pending stage" for the gallery while it's being made. It may take me a while to find the photos I want to include, and write my notes for each photo, and during that time, it would be nice if no notifications were made and the gallery was kept "unpublished". Then, when I was done, I could click "publish this" or "save this" and then the notifications would go out and the gallery would become visible on my page.
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Why only safe pictures? Wouldn't a user's preferences just sort all that out?
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I'd like to be able to have a "pending stage" for the gallery while it's being made. It may take me a while to find the photos I want to include, and write my notes for each photo, and during that time, it would be nice if no notifications were made and the gallery was kept "unpublished". Then, when I was done, I could click "publish this" or "save this" and then the notifications would go out and the gallery would become visible on my page.
Brenda, this was something that our preview members requested as well. It's a wee bit of a permissioning nightmare and as such, something that we don't see has a feature change in the near term.
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Shame, you could have had a gallery opening ;-)
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heather wrote a permissioning nightmare Maybe if there was a time limit? Say, you have 15 minutes to complete it?
But, I suppose that could still be a hassle. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to be quick! :)
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I think if you made the images faves, then you would be able to think about them and write the comments, and then finally make them into a gallery.
A different workflow, but perhaps a way to have a Grand Opening that was a bit more coherent.
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I was thinking of Galleries as sorta independent of faves... but yes, I can see how that might be a way to approach it.
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Oh, and +3 for the "galleries for groups" idea. This would be a great way to curate group pools and have the galleries shown as a link on the group page. Yes, I know you can do it now as a group admin on your own Galleries page, but a way to "assign" the Gallery to the group would be awesome.
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So do views that originate from a gallery, say that in the stats? Or is it just bundled in with "from flickr"?
It would be nice to see what sorts of views the galleries were generating.
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The exclusion of one's own images from a gallery seems like a missed opportunity to me. Sometimes one wants to pool together a photo one has uploaded with conceptually related photos by others. Can't use a set for this, since it's restricted to one's own stuff. Can't use a gallery, as it's restricted to other people's stuff. Could in principle use a group pool, but this is both feature-limited (can't arrange things) and a total overkill for pooling a handful of images.
It's a bit strange that the only way one can have a small group of images, including some of one's own, properly curated, is to 1) get a third party to do it for one (and that person would be excluded from contributing to it if ever became relevant) or 2) use a second userid as a workaround.
I don't really understand the need to have such a strong separation between one's images and other people's images in curation. It just doesn't make sense.
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Galleries look great but you should be able to add your own photos to them as well. This limitation makes them difficult to use for things like family albums or collections of photos from events like a photostroll.
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Is there any specific reason not to have context widgets for galleries, just like there are for photostream, sets and groups?
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at first when gustavo suggested it, i thought "oh, you don't need to have your own photos in a gallery" and "that would confuse new members about when to use sets and when to use galleries".
but after thinking about it, it isn't as complicated a situation as i initially thought, and the ability would be welcome. galleries are just too potentially useful to hobble in this way.
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although i do really like the 18 photo limit. that's a good hobble.
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♥ shhexycorin ♥
Why only safe pictures? Wouldn't a user's preferences just sort all that out?
I'm was asking myself the same question right now.
As for adding our own material to the galleries, I think it's a good idea also.
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Where is the Flickr-Twitter ???
You develop too slow !
Where's the "Publish-this-gallery"- Button ?
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I would like to request Slideshow mode with good res. This would make a good option for displaying on a TV. Thanks.
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galleries are awesome. Sometimes pictures are just more powerful set in groups than they are alone.
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why a setting for just this
kind of "sharing" and yet not faves (unless i missed something)
opt-in/out whatever, it should follow my current share settings.
things are getting cloudy in that regard.
in fact, they've been cloudy for quite sometime.
is that EVER going to change?
but, yeah. i rate this an "almost a feature"-feature in that it's 'hobbled' like someone else already said; "why can't i create + add my own photos to my own gallery"
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that would confuse new members about when to use sets and when to use galleries
That's the rub: there is no fundamental conceptual difference between a set and a gallery. Both are tools for curating a set of photos, annotating around them and commenting on them.
For long, people have asked for the ability to add other people's photos to their sets, and the typical answer was "you can't use other people's photos like that!" Now flickr has the tool to do exactly that - curate other people's photos - but it excludes one's own. So now there are two different sets of code for managing the same kind of stuff, based on a rather artificial separation.
Here's a thought on what could have been done instead. Flickr could have improved the existing capabilities for managing sets, adding all the goodies that were implemented for galleries (including the ability to include photos by others). Then, they could have defined a set of criteria for highlighting certain sets as "galleries". The criteria could have been, for example: 1) number of photos doesn't exceed 18, and 2) number of items from own photostream doesn't exceed 25% of the contents of the set. Any sets matching those criteria (or some clearly specified variation on them) would be dynamically considered "a gallery" and included in the person's galleries page.
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I think there's a opt-in/opt-out setting for just this because it's displaying larger images than the thumbnails that favorites display.
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While this is not something that was on my wish list for Flickr, I know that people have asked for something like this in the past. I'll have to see how the Flickr user community decides to use them before I form an opinion. It is an interesting idea.
In the meantime, it's an honor to have a photo from my humble photostream in one of heather's galleries.
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@juadreho - until flickr staff allow slideshow to work, you might like check-out www.cooliris.com/
it's certainly improved the way i browse any photo based web site.
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Here's a question about the removing of an image from a gallery (via the little red "x" on the image). If I do that, is it permanently blocked from being added in that gallery? Or can they just re-add it regardless of my initial disapproval?
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I hope it works like Faves: You can remove your image from someone's faves, but unless you block them, they can add it back again, with the same notification process.
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ColleenM, a fave-o-war!
sounds like fun.
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A minor observation. As things stand, the headline stats line alongside an image on the activity page does not include galleries - it would be nice if it could be amended.
All in all, Galleries looks like a reat new feature - many thanks for the innovation.
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so galleries are like organized fav's, good :)
but limited to safe-only, and limited to 18 max :(
it's a good idea, i just don't see why it should be limited to "safe only" photos, since each user's safe-search filter will hide all the boobs they don't want to see.
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I have so many beautiful favorites it's hard to sift through them to find the ones that fit a gallery I've created. Is there a way to organize/search favorites to easily find ones related to what I'm looking to add to my gallery?
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Here's a 'virtual set' hack I did a while back. Its laid out like a normal set so its not as pretty as a gallery but there aren't as many restrictions. For example, you can mix your own photos with other people's.
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Honestly I'd rather see the Galleries just replace sets. In theory, it gets rid of something more limited such as sets, and allows you to put not only your photos, but the photos of anyone else on Flickr inside of the galleries. An even better idea, for help in distinguishing content, would on the bottom of a page be put links to all the members that there are photos from in the bottom of the gallery (I think it's a fairly easy AJAX code). Or they could just go next to sets...but either way I'd much rather create a gallery than a set for my own photos.
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Terrie K: there's a "search within your favorites" box at the top of your favorites. There's no way to organize them however.
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Honestly I'd rather see the Galleries just replace sets. In theory, it gets rid of something more limited such as sets, and allows you to put not only your photos, but the photos of anyone else on Flickr inside of the galleries
i don't like your idea of allowing people to put other member's photos in their sets. because if you allow that, there is no way to see the work of the member. sets should be only for the photos that you have taken.
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Is there/ will there be a way to search for galleries by topic?
If there is already, I can't find it, and if there isn't I think there should be.
While the explore idea is a cool way to find new stuff, I would like to be able to find galleries of a topic in the same way you can find groups or individual pictures...
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are there new Flickr API functions for Galleries?
does flickr.photos.getAllContexts now returns also the galleries containing the photo?
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Is there/ will there be a way to search for galleries by topic?
well, before doing that, they should first implement a search for Sets and Collections!
currently there is no way to do a full-text search that search sets titles and description... and collections titles and description.
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well, before doing that, they should first implement a search for Sets and Collections
I would like to search galleries because they are a collection of other people's images. I can find sets by looking at the user who's photos I want to see. You can't do the same for galleries.
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so you're only notified the first time an image is added to a gallery? would be nice to be notified each time, that way it's easier to find them.
i love the gallery feature though.
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idog~ wrote would be nice to be notified each time, that way it's easier to find them. It shows up in your "recent activity" each time. The one-time notification is via Flickrmail.
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thanks Brenda :-)
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I can find sets by looking at the user who's photos I want to see. You can't do the same for galleries.
no, that really does not work well when you are looking for sets with a particular subject. the set title and description is not usually duplicated in each of the photo in the set.
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Regarding the limitation to "safe" images only, I expect it's like that because some people wouldn't want their images included in a gallery that also included non-safe images.
Am I right?
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So, question about content moderation and the guidelines and how the current rules will apply to Galleries. If someone collects a bunch of say, "voyeuristic" content from other photostreams, that as a collection appears to cross the "don't be creepy" line of the Community Guidelines, what then?
Is their entire account subject to deletion, even though they just collected other folks' images? Is there a "No Galleries For You!" lockout for people who can't play nice with the feature?
It seems like we're traveling into some new territory that's not really covered in the rules, which are almost entirely focused on our content.
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I think the issue for Galleries is no different from the issue of Faves.
If someone is going to create a creepy set of Faves, there's already processes in place to report that person, and have staff review the account.
I don't see how Galleries create any new territory.
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Feature request: I'd like to be notified somehow that my contact has created a gallery. Another section in Recent Activity perhaps?
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Nobody ever asked me if they could take a photo of mine until I received an email today from flickr. In fact this person has another one already in her gallery.
Where are these settings...?
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We need to be able to share galleries ala "share this" like one can do with other's sets and your own sets.
hb19: How is it a bad thing to have your photo in another person's gallery? It's not really that much different from a fav - and in fact it's better for *you*, comparatively.
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*hb19 wrote Where are these settings...? Check this FAQ: www.flickr.com/help/galleries/#938190
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Colleen: I think this is (or will be) different. A set of faves that creeps you out, is still just a collection of thumbnails. Flickr would likely tell you to block the person as a remedy, and maybe look and see of other elements of their photostream raise the alarm for misuse.
But a gallery has the potential to be completely by itself, something that could violate existing guidelines, except those guidelines are written based on our personal content, not the content of others.
Galleries have text available next to each image, so it's creating something new with the images of others. A gallery could be a full narrative, using public, safe images, that could become "creepy".
But if no other element of their photostream is similar, where does it fall, as far as Flickr's remedies?
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It seems like we're traveling into some new territory that's not really covered in the rules, which are almost entirely focused on our content.
Obviously we will have to monitor who puts what photos of ours in galleries, and in what context they are shared. But that's not really any different than paying attention to faves.
The spirit of what you bring up is my concern, though. I wonder in what way my photos might be used. I suppose it's a matter of whether we want to categorically deny people the ability to use our photos to create galleries through our account settings, or use the block feature.
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I'm still not seeing it.
Creepy collections of faves could be reported using the Report Abuse link. You simply explained that the faves, taken as a group, were voyeuristic, or creepy or whatever. Flickr staff often acted on these accounts by deleting them.
Creepy galleries can be reported using the Report Abuse link. Now there's a lot more than just pictures lined up side by side. There are gallery titles, there are the comments added. Much more evidence for Flickr staff to evaluate. And they can still delete the account for being creepy.
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I guess I'm asking if the existing remedies are going to be exactly as harsh for this borrowed content, as it would be for personal content. It seems some new lines are being drawn that could be crossed in new ways. And not just creepy, but somehow warping the context of images and making them appear not "safe".
For example, how about a gallery of breast feeding women, with frat-boy text accompanying? Breast feeding images are considered "safe" on Flickr, but that's mostly because the context they're in is almost universally benign.
Now Flickr has created a way to make an entirely new context around the images, which can change the viewer's perception of them, and turn them from safe to oggling.
But is making such a gallery "creepy"? Is it against the rules? which rule? What is the punishment if it is against the rules?
new territory.
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The Searcher: How about thinking of ways to use it in a positive context rather than knee-jerking to alarmist possibilities?
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The Searcher wrote But is making such a gallery "creepy"? Yes.
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Before galleries, you could post pictures of little boys in swimming suits. Universally considered safe, and usually in family accounts.
Someone could fave photos of little boys in swimming suits, so that there was nothing in their faves except half naked little boys. Doing so put your account at risk. Your account could be reported for being creepy. Flickr staff were known to delete accounts that only had faves of little boys, or women's butts.
There always have been rules against creepy behavior, which included creating a selection of faves that, in and of themselves, were benign, but when gathered together totally changed the context. It turned pictures of little boys from safe to sexual. And it could get you deleted.
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I think the galleries are really cool!
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kediwah: Since this is the thread to discuss a new feature, I think it's fair to ask questions. Especially since the results of people misusing this feature, are going to show up in this forum before too long. Might be nice to have some answers and strategy in preparation for that.
Colleen: But it may not all BE creepy, is my point. Taking something out of context and changing it, isn't always going to be that lowest common denominator, like kids swimming. There are answers all the time in this forum, when it comes to someone being "on the line" for their content, that context counts. A girl in a leather outfit for halloween, is "safe." An account full of girls in fetish wear, is not.
So if someone takes all those "safe" images and posts them together, what then? It isn't creepy, but the context now puts it into a "moderate" catagory. So what happens then? Is the gallery deleted? Is their photostream set to "moderate"? Is their account deleted?
I'm not trying to be alarmist. I'm just suggesting that the rules as written, don't cover this stuff.
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The same sort of issue arises if, say, I'm a t-shirt designer, and I gather together a gallery of photos of people wearing one of my shirts. In the description, I say where you can buy them and how great they are etc.
What would be the "penalty" for that? It's commercial usage via a Gallery. Setting my account to NIPSA won't actually help because it may be that I have no photos of my own anyway. Does my account get deleted then? What if all my photos are perfectly fine and work within the guidelines? I would think that account deletion would be a pretty harsh penalty. But the gallery can't be made NIPSA because it's not searchable anyway. It can't be made "unsafe"... what are the possible "penalties"?
(ps. just thinking out loud... I would hope that Flickr staff have thought of these scenarios and have a plan in place, even if they don't want to share it)
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Regarding the limitation to "safe" images only, I expect it's like that because some people wouldn't want their images included in a gallery that also included non-safe images.
Am I right?
but then, your safe public images can be faved by people who also have unsafe faves. so it's not very consistent.
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Faves are just tiny thumbnails... Galleries are large size images. So there is that difference of scale.
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personally there is a feature that i would have preferred before they implemented the galleries:
it is the ability to fav sets (and collections), rather than just individial images (and members, by adding them to contacts).
very often i really want to bookmark an entire set from a member, but i don't want to fav all the individual photos in their set, nor do i want to ad them to my contact.
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loupiote (Old Skool) edited this topic 33 months ago.
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Faves are just tiny thumbnails... Galleries are large size images. So there is that difference of scale.
well, when i click on my favs or play my favs slideshow, i see them larger than thumbnails.
so?
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actually it would be nice if my fav's could be presented the same way sets or galleries are presented.
i'm not convinced that it's a good idea to multiply the different presentations of the various "collections" (in the broad sens of the term) of photos on flickr.
currently we have at least laready 5 different presentations:
- photostream presentation (various size options)
- sets presentation (thumbnails + set description and set comments)
- groups presentation (thumbnails + discussions)
- favs presentation (thumbnails)
- gallery presentation (thumbnails + large images below
they all look different (except when viewed in slideshow. is that really necessary?
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loupiote (Old Skool) edited this topic 33 months ago.
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Thanks for this cool new feature. Just one quick question though, is there anyway I can "fav" a gallery? I've just came away from looking at a beautiful gallery on "Tea", and would love to be able to fave or bookmark that gallery in some way so that I can come back to it again. I have already made that person a contact, but realised that s/he has quite a few galleries going even at this early stage, and I would really like to be able to link directly to a gallery I love within Flickr rather than bookmarking through my web browser.
Thanks a mil' in advance for your help, this is really a great feature and is already unleashing the curator in me!
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The Searcher 
's question; if you remove a photo from a gallery, is the person notified? (One would hope not, as that could lead to a lot of unwanted flickrmail exchanges)
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