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You need to respond to the last email.
Continuing to spam the Help Forum with a personal problem will most likely lead to you being banned from the forum until you can settle this privately.
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I have to agree w/ ColleenM.
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Do I hear an axe grinding, or is that Zack closing the door on this thread.
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ColleenM, you look familiar have I seen you before? Your definition of spam is pretty lame. Two posts constitutes spam? And are you threatening me with being banned? Are you an admin? Didn't think so.
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Weird attitude, taking an honest warning as a "threat". That last thread was closed with the express instructions that you would only get an answer privately through Flickr. So yeah, it sucks if you haven't had any luck with that yet, or more likely aren't satisfied with the answers they gave you (again, what is it you're looking for? Your stolen images back? Donuts?). But there's a definition of insanity that covers when you do the exact same thing over and over but expect a different result.
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Keep in mind the response times do vary, there may be a long queue of people before you. Probably best to be patient
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Wow, a snarky remark by somebody with a Jesus Raptor icon. Go figure... Who would have thought that? I mean, wow, the internet has really sunk to such a banal level, don't you think?
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I'm sorry, it's the jesus raptor icon. Accept no substitutes.
Good job not answering the question. I mean, if you want to air your dirty socks in a public forum, then why not use the opportunity to express exactly what it is you're asking for?
I'm sure there's got to be some slim chance it's not pointless or self-serving.
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For a sympathetic response go here
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Shepherd,
I'm thinking Flickr can't/won't restore your account. Whether it was the correct response by Flickr or a gross overreaction on their part doesn't really matter-- they retain the right to delete your account for any violation of the community guidelines. It's a policy that leads to IMHO too many account deletion, but it is what it is. There have been many users with cases far more sympathetic than yours, and Flickr didn't change their policy in response to those issues either. If you want Flickr to change their policy, you'd have better luck trying a different vector.
People have been asking nicely for changes in the way Flickr handles account/ photo deletions for years, and nothing changed until a particularly egregious case made it to the Washington Post. Squeaking here didn't seem to do anything in the interim.
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The best thing to do is to use Help by Email:
www.flickr.com/help/with/other/
Be sure to quote the Help Case number you already have, as opening a new case will delay any response.
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jakerome: That wasn't an "egregious" case, it was an average case. It only made the Washington Post because there's nothing that sells papers more than the words "Obama" or "Michael Jackson."
But still, maybe it points to some hope of a better way to deal with account deletions, too. As you and I have bandied around, there are similar relatively simple options available, that shouldn't require immensely new systems to work.
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" Are you an admin? Didn't think so. "
But, for the sake of our own security, there may well be plainclothes people about.
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You mean there's a chance that someone from Flickr staff might be reading these public forum threads? Who knew!
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And the OP never did answere the question about shooting the photos about torture of prisoners. I like theives who try and hide under the apron of the First Amendment.
Is that axe sharp yet? Keep on grinding because the tree that is Flickr is tall and sturdy.
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Iansand, the Thomas Hawk references are no longer appropriate in the Help Forum. Seriously dude, he's banned from here and can't even respond, so knock it off or I hope they ban you. Shepard, you aren't helping your cause, just like you never have since the very beginning by all these attacks on the Flickr staff who are doing the best that they can. Seriously dude, stop it.
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" You mean there's a chance that someone from Flickr staff.... "
Now I meant plainclothes people on these lines .
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Hey SF_Lights? Quit stalking me. Damn, where did all these flickr sycophants come from?
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Traditionally queries in the Help Forum are phrased in the form of a question but I'm not seeing that here. I don't think any of us can help the OP and that Michael Smith's suggestion of Help by Email is probably the best way to go in this instance.
- I don't think there's any need for that sort of tone. That certainly won't help you.
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@jakerome They CAN restore the account. They required by a Federal law called the Sarbanes-Oxley Act to back up their production servers. I'm guessing that they won't, or at least it's their policy not to. Unless Heather Champ Lied to me. Which is genuinely possible. Either Heather is telling the trutch and they aren't in compliance with SOX. Or she is a complete liar.
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Shepherd Johnson: The Mighty Wurlitzer
Even one of the founders wasn't able to get his account restored. Flickr doesn't restore accounts.
Sarbanes Oxley is an accounting and financial practices act. It doesn't have anything to do with user-generated content.
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Every time I read one of these "I got deleted" rants on this board the OP goes mental and totally justifies their deletion. It supports an overall conclusion that flickr staff are generally fair. Seems completely justified to me and I wish staff would edit your responses ahem ~censor you~ here also
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Shepherd Johnson: The Mighty Wurlitzer Well, your understanding of Sarbanes Oxley is completely wrong. But hey, if you want to actually dig up the relevant bit of the act, and reference a court decision that relates SOx to websites like Flickr, I'll be glad to be proven wrong.
Maybe you can get Newsweek to write a follow-up story after you're kicked out of the Help Forum for describing Flickr users as sheep, including yourself, using vulgar terms.
Hey, I have an even better idea. Why don't ya start posting more photos of Abu Ghraib abuse in the comments section of "safe" photostream and see if Flickr deletes your account again. Then we could at least figure out if Flickr thought they made a mistake the first time.
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ColleenM, if you believe that little folk tale of Flickr's founding then I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might also be interested in.
jakerome? Are you in IT? Because every single one of my friends who works in IT( and I have a lot of them), tell me that if Yahoo! doesn't have back up servers then that is a major violation. That doesn't even matter anymore. The relevant issue is that I'm not going away until this issue is resolved and Flickr/Yahoo! will have to deal with my complaint on a daily basis until it is resolved. Period.
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Oh dear, I think that violates the "don't bore the brains out of other members" clause.
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Is Flickr some kind of cult? What is the deal here? Is this not an official flickr forum? I know that word "official" likes to be thrown out a lot on flickr without any weight, but seriously. Are the flickr staff monitoring this Help forum becuase it damn sure looks like they are, when they locked my previous post. Is the gist of this forum that other users try to solve problems? Damn, this is laughable, seriously that sheep metaphor is apt.
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Yep, that's exactly what it says on the Forum home page
"The Help Forum is a great place to start if you need help with Flickr (just like our extensive FAQ). Our community is full of helpful, clever people who know more about Flickr than we do! "
Posted 33 months ago.
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Can someone delete this idiot.
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ColleenM, weren't you commenting on the "Official Whitehouse photostream" a while back when this was going on? Wow, jakerome too. Where is the clarion to rally the flickr troops? It sure looks like it's been called. Is it in Heather Champs cubicle?
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Baaaaa!
(Sorry..but yes to the poster above re: some people *totally* justifying their own fates...)
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- I think if you continue to insult other members in an open forum then you will almost certainly find your new account gets deleted too.
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John© judging by your buddy icon, I'd say the same of you. So it's okay for you to personally attack me but, I can't say anything back? Are these the flickr imposed rules?
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elementalPaul , wanna bet? Not gonna happen. If it happens, I'll just start another account, Heather Champ told me that was within the Yahoo! TOS and it's perfectly Okay. Right Heather?
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But you need to consider that being a total nuisance here isn't going to further your goal of generating publicity for yourself. I mean hey it's fun to watch some fool go down in flames on the flickr help board, but what will they be talking about at the water coolers tommorrow morning?
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How is this a nuisance? One post? Two Posts, I've posted in the Help Forum. Why don't you ignore it? But you can't can you? Internet addiction is a sad, sad, sad thing. I'm a fool? Again, your buddy icon reveals more about you than any derogatory comments I might be able to slap together. So I'll just defer to to your little picture of you.
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Shepherd Johnson: The Mighty Wurlitzer Johnson,
Sarbanes-Oxley are rules governing the accounting of publicly traded companies. The backups they must keep have to do with things like accounting statements, financially relevant information and so on. Thankfully, our country doesn't require the Orwellian backup and archiving of everything that's ever taken place with a particular company.
So yeah, your friends in IT are either wrong about this, or you've misunderstood what they meant. They may need backups of their own data (emails, phone call records, and so on), but they are certainly not required by the government to keep a permanent log of everything we've ever done on their websites.
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"I'll just start another account"
It amazes me why anyone that is so dissatisfied would start another account. There is nothing forcing you to stay here. If you don't like the way Flickr runs THEIR site you are free to find another that suits your needs. Unless of course you just like to whine.
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elementalPaul Good lord, I really hope that the Flickr standard for deleting accounts is nowhere "insulting other members." If that were the case, there wouldn't be any Flickr left.
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Agreed. A flame war in a discussion thread is nothing new. I believe the designated punishment is time spent on the naughty step :-)
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- no I was over egging the pudding a bit! Certainly a ban from the Help Forum would seem to be on the cards.
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I am thinking about changing my little picture. It does say internet junkie dosn't it. Maybe I need a hat
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I think we're done here.
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Shepherd, as noted previously, the help forum isn't the place to work this out so I'm giving you a time out from the forum. You are welcome to continue to communicate with us directly.
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You mean there's a chance that someone from Flickr staff might be reading these public forum threads? Who knew!
- I don't think there's any need for that sort of tone. That certainly won't help you.
elementalPaul Good lord, I really hope that the Flickr standard for deleting accounts is nowhere "insulting other members." If that were the case, there wouldn't be any Flickr left.
Agreed. A flame war in a discussion thread is nothing new. I believe the designated punishment is time spent on the naughty step :-)
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