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Can I see who leaves each note on the photo?
Yes. It shows up on the note
Can people lock there notes into place?
No. The photo owner can always edit or delete them.
Can I add to the text of others notes?
Only if it is your photo (and I am not sure about that)
Can there be other note shapes besides squares?
No
Can notes have links in them?
Yes
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Yes you can.
No. You can move them yourself.
Yes, you can edit other notes.
Yes, but only four sided. (Rectangles)
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Just the page the notes are on.
You can delete anyone else's note from your own photos.
Many find notes a pain in the arse. They will prevent the addition of notes, but unfortunately (for them) if the photo is posted to a group pool, notes can be added by members of that group. So it's still a pain in the arse for them ;-)
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"Can people lock there notes into place?"
No, if the notes are on your photo, you can move them (regardless of who placed them there) and whoever placed the note may move it. Or it can be deleted altogether.
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Whether or not you can leave a note is the choice of the photographer. You can decide whether or not people are allowed to leave notes on your photographs.
If the image is posted in a group, members of the group can add notes, but many photographers think notes distract from the viewing of the photo and remove them as soon as possible.
Many of the questions you ask will get different answers depending on whether you are the photographer (total control over notes) or simply a person leaving notes on someone else's image.
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So I am trying to use the notes feature of Flickr for a school project
OK, call me old-fashioned, but isn't the point of school projects to help you learn how to think and figure things out for yourself?
There's nothing you asked, nor were told, that you couldn't have figured out for yourself in less than half an hour.
Talk about wanting the world handed to them on a plate. Bah. Kids today, they want the moon on a stick. Grumble grumble.
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(I know this is sooo going to hijack this thread, but....)
These days kids learn to work together rather than independently. Since, in the adult world, very few people work in isolation, teaching kids to work in isolation wasn't very realistic.
Even in the world-renown engineering school where I was a faculty member, kids were discouraged from taking on a whole project alone, and were encouraged to make use of as many resources as they could to find answers to problems.
With the glut of information available, the tasks have switched from researching everything yourself to learning to find reliable sources for information that is already available somewhere in the world.
The OP didn't ask anything that could be found in the FAQ. (I'm hoping this means they took a look before they posted).
The OP did come to the most reasonable spot on this site to ask experienced users how to use a tool.
Yep, the internets have changed the world.
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But did the OP start at the most basic place: actually adding a note to one of their images to see what it can/cannot do?
I must be old if trial and error has flown by the wayside.
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I don't think we'd be having this part of the discussion if the OP had not initially posted that they were working on a school project. If they'd said it was for a community organization, we would have been all over ourselves to be sure they got everything straight.
We don't know what the point of this project is. If it's not about learning to use Flickr notes, why is it a problem that they took the shortest route to the information?
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why is it a problem that they took the shortest route to the information?
Because that way, they learn nothing. The shortest route is often not the most useful. It can get you the specific answer you are looking for, but render the actual point of the exercise useless.
I doubt very much that the point of the project was "learn all you can about Flickr Notes". Much as I love Flickr, I'd hardly put it in the "essential life skills" category.
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Since we cannot learn everything that is known, I think it is up to the individual to decide which information they want to embed for future use, and which information they don't need to spend time learning.
I don't really have the time or desire to know everything. I often take the shortest route to information. I simply don't agree that trial-and-error is always the best way to gather it. I budget my learning time for skills and information that improves my life.
If I can get the same information by asking some well-formed questions in a group of knowledgeable people, why should I spend the time collecting experimental data to "learn" it myself?
Its the same reason I didn't go to law school. I was accepted at a spiffy law school. I *could* have learned all that stuff myself. But, you know, I decided I could always hire a lawyer if I needed the information.
So, if the point of the project was not to learn about Flickr notes and the point of the exercise was not rendered useless, why is it bad that they didn't take the time to teach themselves through trial-and-error?
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this school project would be brilliant if the question about notes was entirely irrelevant, and the project itself was a social experiment studying the interaction of people in online forums and how they react to questions and to eachother.
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Trial and error teaches you important problem solving skills, so when you find yourself in a situation where you can't ask someone to spoon feed you (and yes, I can think of several situations where that would be the case) you can actually figure things out on your own.
I'm horrified to learn we're raising generations of co-dependents who can't function on their own.
Also, most of us who answered the OP's question, were able to do so because we did learn how to use notes (and what their parameters are) through trial and error. I guess we'll just have to assume that in any given situation there would be at least one curious person who would learn something the "old fashioned way." If the generation of folks who learn through hands on experience die off, no one will get anywhere because everyone will always be looking for someone else to find the answer.
Choosing to hire a lawyer instead of going to law school is a cost benefit analysis. Asking to be spoon fed in the Help Forum without even giving notes a try (when the cost of doing so it relatively low with a high return rate) is lazy.
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I don't really have the time or desire to know everything.
Of course you don't. Nobody does. However, an important part of education is learning how to find out information. Back in the real world, the right answer is hardly ever posting to an on-line forum saying "Hey folks, I can't be bothered actually trying these trivial things myself, please just tell me the answers I need." The real world tends to be a little bit harsher and demands you actually put some effort in yourself. If we don't teach people how to do that, we are doing them a great disservice.
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"when you find yourself in a situation where you can't ask someone[snip] you can actually figure things out on your own.
I agree that's an important skill but, read on.
dopiaza"Back in the real world, the right answer is hardly ever posting to an on-line forum saying "Hey folks, I can't be bothered actually trying these trivial things myself, please just tell me the answers I need."
I think, in today's on-line oriented world, that often is the right answer. If the FAQ and the Help links don't answer the question, that's the next best source for "how does this software work" questions.
I'd like anyone working for me to use their time and my money in the most efficient manner. I'd much rather have them ask how to use a tool than spend the morning fooling around learning how it works by trial and error. Especially if they aren't going to be using it again in the future.
That said, I'd even more rather that they RTFM first.
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Why bother reading the fucking manual when you can just go online and get an answer?
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So you have cred.
So you don't ask n00b questions.
Because, usually, it's the fastest way to figure something out.
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It depends on the complexity of the tool.
If I have someone working for me who is supposed to go configure a rack full of routers and switches, then I'd prefer it if they didn't sit down and learn the Cisco IOS on my time.
Even if they did have the basics of the IOS down, but couldn't figure out one particular thing, I'd prefer it if they asked me or someone else on the team before mucking around in the configuration haphazardly.
But for something like notes, I fail to see why anyone couldn't go to a photo, click the Notes button, and then see, oh wow, I can stretch its shape, leave text, drag it around - Fun! And then read the FAQ if they still have questions, and then ask for help for the unanswered stuff.
It's notes, after all. It's not law school, it's not a live network, it's just a small feature with limited options.
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"I'm horrified to learn we're raising generations of co-dependents who can't function on their own."
I think that you're confusing co-dependency with interdependency. Humans have been interdependent since the first barter transaction occurred.
"If the generation of folks who learn through hands on experience die off, no one will get anywhere because everyone will always be looking for someone else to find the answer."
I don't think thats a possibility. There really are lots of us who prefer hands on learning. Lots of us who want esoteric knowledge for nothing more than the respect it commands among our peers.
Much of the open source movement (read the Cathedral and the Bazaar) is based on the idea of cred.
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I find the most irritating people are those who know the information but are too lazy to process it themselves. If I don't do it then someone else will just take care of it for me type of attitude bugs the hell out of me.
I have no idea where that fits into this conversation...so please ignore.
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zyrcster "But for something like notes, I fail to see why anyone couldn't go to a photo, click the Notes button, and then see, oh wow, I can stretch its shape, leave text, drag it around -"
Bingo!
I agree with the details of how this particular set of questions might have been handled. But, I disagree with the global statements about "kids today" and "co-dependent".
Yeah, the OP lost cred when he asked dumb noob questions about the shape. But some of his questions could not have been answered in a few minutes of playing around.
And, I think it's a stereotype based on our perception of the age of the person, not the actual questions.
We've answered similarly dumb questions over and over without starting to make global statements about how lazy women are, for example.
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Maybe it was just a clever ruse to promote the website linked to in the OP...
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"to promote the website linked to in the OP... "
Well, that probably failed. I didn't even click that link. Did you? Did anyone?
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Believe me, it takes an inordinate degree of strength on my part to not snap at people who come here and ask:
How does Interestingness work...
(look, there's a new one now!)
Why can't I see all of my photos anymore, I had 4000, now I only have 200...
Why don't my pictures show on Yahoo 360!
I can't find my photos!
It's getting to be rather typical for members to not bother using the search feature when they have a question, let alone read the FAQ.
I can forgive the not reading the FAQ bit, I bet many members have no idea at all what FAQ stands for.
But not using search?
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Why am I still typing?
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I clicked that link, and you do not want to know the thought that went through my head about it.
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I didn't click. I'm way too cautious. 'Specially when I've got my kids around.
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It goes exactly nowhere.
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Lol, when I looked at it I saw that it was not typed correctly. So I typed it in my browser myself.
Our "kid" has this to say on his website:
I design and fabricate sculptures for architectural facades and interiors of buildings.
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My driving ambition is to create collaborations with architecture that builds community. I am currently designing and fabricating steel models for architectural enlargements."
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Perhaps you all haven't understood and he's the teacher :-)
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That makes it even worse! ;-)
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Yeah, Luis, I think so. And I think a lot of the drama was because people made stereotypical assumptions about the OP.
I wonder if the questions are OK, now that we know he's a busy grown-up.
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Heh. I didn't notice the [dot] missing 'til just now.
I have to say that I dislike the "spoon-feed me information" attitude as well. I know someone who in school was taught "creative spelling" and never learned how to use a dictionary to find out how to spell a word. Forever I was being asked "How do you spell this?" and if I didn't tell her, she'd find someone else who would. (I never told her... heh.)
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Let's pretend the OP started by saying:
"Hi! I'm teaching a classs of {whatever} and I'm recommending Flickr to my pupils for a project we'll do. I need to know how notes work, just in case they ask me [etc.]"
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My attitude doesn't change. Play around with the thing, and then ask questions. RTFM if you can find it.
If anything, that the OP may be an instructor makes it even more troubling.
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Under no circumstances should any of you go anywhere near a thing called Yahoo! Answers. Your heads will explode. Trust me on this.
And none of you are entitled to ask why this is so.
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I ventured over there once. It took 3 vodka tonics to recover.
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ColleenM "I wonder if the questions are OK, now that we know he's a busy grown-up."
Nope, even worse. Why is my time any less valuable than his?
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(Mind you, I initially answered his question - at least partially; as I do all the idiotic questions posted in the Help Forum. But since we've hijacked the thread, I see no reason to refrain from the debate.)
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"why is my time less valuable than his?"
I don't think your time is less valuable.
I do think you get personal enjoyment out of learning and knowing this particular kind of information, and my guess is that the OP does not.
If I had a question about metal work, I'd ask someone like the OP. Not read a bunch of books about it, or even try my hand at it.
OP had a question about how this software/site works. He asked here. Those of us who *already knew* the answer from whatever previous research we had done on our own behalf shared information.
I'm going to learn and dig into this stuff just for my own curiosity. I make use of other people's innate curiosity about things that don't interest me.
We're all volunteers here. If my time is too valuable to spend answering dumb questions, all I have to do is spend it on some other activity. We budget our time based on the value returned for spending that time.
So, I think that your time is exactly as valuable as the OPs, and that you each chose to spend your 24 hours a day on activities that have high value for you personally.
I also think that if getting information would require you to spend time on a low-value activity, that you'd look for the solution that used up the least amount of your time.
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OMG! Yahoo Answers!!! *shudders*
I'm wondering... what would happen if none answered the idiotic questions here?
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I don't mind helping people and answering questions here either, even when it's ones that are asked repeatedly - depending on the attitude of the person asking.
For some reason, this one just struck me wrong (which is why I let you all fill in the answers, hehe. ;) Maybe it was the "I want all the answers, even to questions I haven't thought of or asked yet" kind of wording. Like he wants us to actually *think* for him and/or read his mind.
Or maybe I'm just tired after a long day of teaching my own kids about stuff. *shrug*
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I think you nailed it. Attitude matters.
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Or maybe I'm just tired after a long day of teaching my own kids about stuff.
Yes, I see how that's almost te same than answering in the forum.
:-)
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Um, kerberethan............got the gist of notes yet ;-)
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BTW kerberethan when you get totally sick of having people put notes on your photos because you can't seem to make the wretched things disappear then there's this great script here www.flickr.com/photos/dwardu/2142291133/ which hides the little beast for you ;-) It hides notes on other people's photos too and is easily reinstated by a mouse click if you are optimistic enough to think the notes will say something useful :-º
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I disagree with the global statements about "kids today" and "co-dependent".
To be fair, it was me who used the phrase "kids today", and it was in meant a rather tongue-in-cheek grumpy old man sort of way to justify my late-night ramblings. I do, however, find the whole argument about dependency both interesting and disturbing.
Yeah, the OP lost cred when he asked dumb noob questions about the shape. But some of his questions could not have been answered in a few minutes of playing around.
I stand by my original claim that you could find out the answers to all the questions asked to a reasonable degree of certainty in less than half an hour.
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Only if you set up two accounts using two different Yahoo! IDs, or had a willing accomplice with their own Flickr account and simultaneous access to a computer.
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Ok folks. I've just got to open my mouth on this one. You are sitting here criticizing someone for going to a forum to ask a question. Yet, you seem to be sitting on this same forum WAITING to answer a question for someone. What's your point? I came to this thread because I have a dreaded noobie question. I'm doing what I should be doing and looking at the resources that are available to me. I didn't find the answer to my question in Flickr's documents so I made the mistake of coming here. I won't dare ask my question now. I can't believe you people have nothing better to do than to bash a student who is working on a project. Leave the kid or teacher or whoever it is alone. I followed the same path here and I'm certainly not a kid and certainly not stupid or inexperienced. I just had a question.
So, now, consider yourself bashed and criticized for mucking up the topic and going off thread. You have committed a worse infraction in my opinion and I've now wasted 10 minutes on you! No More! I'll run the other way the next time I see your names in a forum.
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"I'm doing what I should be doing and looking at the resources that are available to me. "
Yes, you are doing what the original poster didn't do. OP went straight to the "ask for help" mode before trying the "self-help" mode.
And, BTW, the OP was an adult, not a child, and apparently is not a student.
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MJ'sPics Instead of wasting your breath ranting, why not just ask the question. If you're not looking to be spoon fed, you'll get an answer.
Or just be stuck with your issue. It's your choice. Plenty of people survive asking a question here, however.
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RubyMae On the other hand, MJ'sPics has a point. The mob formed early and nastily here. Not one of our finest hours.
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Actually I see 5 good answers before the drift began.
Without any further input from the OP, we'd pretty much given all the relevant information.
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I second (third?) MJ'sPics and RubyMae. Any help forum on the net is plagued by repeated questions and people who ask before they search/rtfm.
Surely one reply to the OP -- a basic cut and paste "you can find info here here and her, try using the search and FAQ next time" -- would have done the trick here?
This thread just degenerate into a gratuitious attack on the original poster for asking "dumb noob questions".
Well done for putting the intruder in their place.
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I love it - people want free help on demand, and they'd like us to be pleasant all the time, too.
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people want free help on demand
Wanting free help the The Help Forum. Outrageous!
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They get help, lots of it. It's just the "pleasant all the time" that we fall short on.
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Pleasant all the time is a big ask. But maybe refraining from actively being unpleasant would be ok.
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Except... except... the thread was two weeks old! It was over already!
Even still - the attitude of the OP is what for the most part will determine the tone of the thread. Notice how they never even came back and acknowleged any of the posts? I mean geez... not even so much as a thanks. (And the first replies were helpful...)
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Well, the two week old bump was from someone whining about how mean we are. Thank goodness he/she bumped the thread for that.
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Im happy to help with out giving you a lecture.Open a photo at the top left you will see things like add to fave,download full size etc and add not.Just click it and your away...Enjoy!
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Thanks for your help!
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Ive been roasted on a fire the whole time my attention was averted
Not really. Do keep in mind that we are human too and sometimes--most notably when the forum is at low ebb or the thing is interesting--we play at generalization and carry on a conversation inspired by but diverted from the original topic at hand. It doesn't really mean making fun or disparaging the OP--in most cases--but keeping on a side issue after the primary question has been answered to anyone's heart's content. Just people interacting: nothing more, nothing less.
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kerberethan Luckily I can now ask everyone. and everyone can answer. and I can forget to check those answers Now I am annoyed with you. How dare you treat people with such a cavalier attitude?
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If you don't have time to answer well thats alright because I didn't ask just you.
No, but *just you* asked a collective body. It's generally courteous to reply to the collective body and to read the answers. Why bothering asking if you aren't going to read responses?
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i followed this link to read the responses to kerberethan's Q.
...because after searching in the Help forums/FAQ, i STILL cannot find a clear answer to my question and hoped to find my answer HERE. it *might* be buried somewhere on this page, since he did ask that Q, but since i do not have time to sift through the dozens of off-topic bickering "responses," could someone PLEASE HELP by answering my question.
Q: i've noticed that adding a link within a note is common, how does one do this? also, i've noticed that some notes are green, as opposed to yellow. why is that?
thank you for your ON-TOPIC responses to this question.
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One adds a link by using the <a href='URL' > < /a > format, substituting the actual URL in that bit of HTML code.
Yellow notes are added by the owner of the photo. Green notes are added by everyone else.
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ColleenM, thank you for a prompt, accurate and ON-TOPIC response.
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Wow. I'm an elementary special education teacher, and I am amazed at how negative some of the comments here have been. I TEACH my students to ask questions, telling them that NO question is a stupid one. Then this poor child (?) posts a question and gets ripped apart. As if the people complaining have NEVER IN THEIR LIVES asked a question of somebody on how to do something? Please!! We have all done the very same thing, but because this is a student we make generalizations about how "lazy" today's youth are.
Perhaps if more people, adults and children alike, were kind, considerate and generous, our world would be in a far better place than it is today. Lighten up, please, and help a student learn. We are all teachers in one shape or another! :o)
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The OP wasn't a child. We were having a discussion and thanks for bumping the thread to add your two cents worth.
Do you have anything to add about how notes work?
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"when you find yourself in a situation where you can't ask someone[snip] you can actually figure things out on your own.
dopiaza"Back in the real world, the right answer is hardly ever posting to an on-line forum saying "Hey folks, I can't be bothered actually trying these trivial things myself, please just tell me the answers I need."
zyrcster "But for something like notes, I fail to see why anyone couldn't go to a photo, click the Notes button, and then see, oh wow, I can stretch its shape, leave text, drag it around -"
"to promote the website linked to in the OP... "
I clicked that link, and you do not want to know the thought that went through my head about it.
That makes it even worse! ;-)
"I'm doing what I should be doing and looking at the resources that are available to me. "
The OP wasn't a child. We were having a discussion and thanks for bumping the thread to add your two cents worth.
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