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9 days and still no response on this issue. who do i have to send this problem / missing feature to?
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Kevin responded to you here: www.flickr.com/help/forum/22728/page4/#reply114176
Kevin indicates that he's seen your posts and that Flickr will get to it when they get to it.
If the old Organizr is broken that takes away your work around, so its probably fair for you to bring up the issue again.
When did the old Organizr stop working for you, do you know?
And can you describe more specifically the problem?
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 that reply was long ago, and i've been using the old organizer to do this. The reason i post again because the old organizer doesn't work with a new set created.
Try this. Load a couple of pictures (in private mode for test) into a new set. then load up the
old organizer See if you can spot that new set. It's not there. So basically, you can't organize a set that don't exist.
For this reason, i have to repost. For another reason, a staff told me that it will be integrated over a YEAR ago. That feature exist when i signed up for the pro account, now it doesn't.
The Batch upload date modification feature alone allow people using flickr to put a large number of photos in and move it out of the way of current photostream. It seems like flickr don't want users to do that by taking out that functionality in thew new organizer -- and then put in low piority (  as mentioned by flickr staff "eric") to put it back even though the program capable of doing this already exist. They just didn't make a link to it.
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See if you can spot that new set. It's not there. So basically, you can't organize a set that don't exist.
Just did that. Created a new set and immediately loaded the old organizr, and there it is... first one on the top row of sets.
Not sure why your new sets don't appear, but mine do.
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Okay, just to prove me wrong, I went back into the old organizr to get a screenshot... and my new set isn't shown, although there is a blank spot in the screen where it should be... it's just not loading.
So maybe that's what you are experiencing?
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 exactly! that's the problem. not only that, try make a new set in new organizr. and then switch to the old organizr.. more blank.
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Infact, the old set i made a week ago still appears in grey. I would guess that problem happens when the 'collection' features came in (not sure)
Changing upload date using new new organizer is pretty much the same program code for batch changing 'taken' date, just acting on different data feild. - so it can be easily done. The current interface screen is already made a space for it, so almost no effort there. (see below)
In practical sense the feature should be integrated in the new organizr already. I don't see a point of having to switch to use the old organizr for this funcionality.
If the staff decided to go 'correct' the problem in old organzr,it would show that Flickr do not want users to be able to do this function, that they would rather put effort and time correct and upgrade the old organizer (that almost has no use to anyone other than this functionality alone.)
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The reason this has been low priority for so long is that changing upload dates on photos subverts the whole idea of the photostream, which is a chronological ordering of the photos you have uploaded. We allow you to make changes to individual photo upload dates, yes, but a tool that allows you to make batch changes to upload dates, well, it is kind of against the design. You might not like the design, but it is the design.
This is not a final word that it will never happen, just an explanation of why a zillion other things have taken precedence.
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the reason why i need to batch-change upload dates on my photos is this:
sometimes i upload large batches of private photos (using flickr as a personal archive), but when i do that, they come at the top of my photostream, which is not what i want.
i want all my private photos to be at the bottom of my photostream so that the photostream i see is the same as other see (at least the top part of it), i.e. it's my public photos.
basically i don't want to see my private photos in my photostream, so i send them to the bottom, because there is no other way to hide private photos from my view of the photostream.
if there was a way to hide my private photos from my view of the photostream, i wouldn't need that batch-change-upload-date that much.
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Yeah, that's an understandable reason to want the feature, Lou.
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If your intent is to restrict photostream ordering why is changing upload date for one at a time allow (would it not go against the design?) I find that self contradictory.
Batch changing upload date allow efficient (fast) relocation of multiple images in photostream. It is so that pictures that are use to store image for none public stream can be put away in the back. If it is anything it would be the fear of user using it as a means to back up. it should not be a 'fear' it is a feature that was available before.
It was the feature that convinced me to use flickr to manage my photos when i upgraded to pro. Then it was taken out.
As mentioned, batch date change is the only way user can "manage" a photostream when there's a lot of photos involve.
So "it will happen" now changes to "not a final word that it will never happen" what is going on here?
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 explained the scenario very well.
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If your intent is to restrict photostream ordering why is changing upload date for one at a time allow (would it not go against the design?) I find that self contradictory.
It's a question of degree, as so many things in life are.
So it will happen now changes to "not a final word that it will never happen" what is going on here?
What is going on is just the normal ebb and flow of feature priority setting. Nothing nefarious. We just have to balance our development time with the features that we think best serve the most people, as best we can.
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Yeah, that's an understandable reason to want the feature, Lou.
thanks.
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Eric, you stated that the purpose of the photostream is to be "a chronological ordering of the photos you have uploaded", but that's actually not the case. Photostreams are not ordered chronologically, instead they are arranged in the order the photos were *uploaded*. If a photostream were ordered chronologically, it would actually reflect the sequential order in which the original photos were taken.
If someone else wants their photostream to be in the order the photos were uploaded, that's great. I just want to be able to organize my photos as I see fit on my paid account. So if you could bump up the priority of integrating this feature, which many of us have been waiting for, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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 Does the word "uploaded" in what you quoted not make you think that maybe he meant that the design is to show your photos chronologically by when you uploaded them? In any case, that's how the Stream is designed, and this was clearly a conscious decision on the part of the developers that was made for specific reasons that lots of people actually agree with.
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Why not making the "owner" to choose this by himself? Can't be that hard to add this feature...
I would like the pictures to be presented as taken rather than uploaded...
But thats me!
K
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Wooble: I understand that's the idea behind the design, but why force subscribers to organize their photostreams this way? Why not give us the choice to organize our photostreams as we see fit? That's the point I was getting at, at least give us the option to do so, if we would prefer it that way. I think it would be in Flickr's interest to allow this, otherwise subscribers may get fed up and start searching for other photo hosting sites that are more accommodating to their paid subscribers. I don't want to do that because I like Flickr otherwise, but I don't appreciate the lack of choice we're being given here.
On a related note, it seems like the old Organizr is no longer available at the link www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?old=1. All I'm seeing is "asasd" at the top of the page, and no interface is loading. Could someone please look into this and get it back up ASAP? Thanks!
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The old organizr loading problem has been fixed. Sorry about that, it was a result of some unrelated changes I made yesterday.
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Thanks Eric! That explains why it worked fine when I posted my first reply but then didn't when I posted my second. Bad timing on my part, I guess. :)
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@Eric
i know you understand the reason why i would like the batch-change-upload-date feature.
We allow you to make changes to individual photo upload dates, yes, but a tool that allows you to make batch changes to upload dates, well, it is kind of against the design.
i don't really think it's against the design. i understand that the photostream is (by default) ordered in the upload order, with the most recent at the top. this is nice to show people new work, since they see your latest upload first.
but... in many cases, the order in which you upload is based on your own convenience, and it is not always the same as the order that you want people to see your latest work.
of course the example i gave, i.e. when i upload bunches of private photos that are completely unrelated to what people see from my work, it makes sense for me to place them where it is convenient. e.g. maybe near the public set that i uploaded before for those photos.
in other cases, i might want to upload a bunch of public photos, but i don't want to "break" another public sequence that i was in the process of unloading in my stream. so it makes sense that we have the option to batch-set the upload time on photos, not just for one photo at a time.
BTW if the design was to make the photostream be really some chronology that makes sense, it should be based on the date-of-photo-taken, but in that case, clearly, when a photographer processes batches of photos taken in the past, they would never appear at the top of the stream. so the way it works, based by default on upload date, if fine, as long as we get some control on this when needed. and manually changing the upload date on 300 photos is really a pain.
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One thing that is kind of related is that i'd like photos to be public, yet not show up in the stream, but still show up in sets. Say i take a long series of very similar photos, from some event, and want to showcase only 3 or 4 of them. Those 3 or 4 i would like to be in my stream, but the other 20 I'd like to just put into a set. i don't want all those similar photos to dominate the first 1 or 2 (or more) pages of my stream. If I had this feature i wouldn't need the changing of the dates as much.
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yes, same for me. if i had this feature, i would not need to batch-change-upload-date as often.
but implementing batch-change-upload-date is probably easier than adding a new feature.
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Yeah, I'm not very happy with this new Batch Organize which is lousy. I can't seem to do anything here. Almost everything I click is not working at all. And it's so annoying to see my photos not in sequencebecause of the idealogy of the so-called "order of sequence".
Flickr is so stuck up in their own idea and keep insisting that we should not change the order of sequence.
Who is Flickr to tell me what's in sequence or not???!!! I'm downloading photos by batch and now all my photos are not in sequence! Is Flickr here to give me a moral lesson on keeping photos in sequence or did Flickr existed to satisfy their customers in the first place???
I like Flickr and initially I wanted to continue to be a Pro Flickr since my Pro member expiry date will be in a couple of months, but now I guess I have to think twice. If the management is not going to do anything to make us happy, many of your customers will move on to some other photo web.
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@kitliew
the best way to order your photos the way you want is by putting them in a set. it's easy to order photos in a set with organizer.
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 I agreed with that option to put it away in a set, so it doesn't interfere with current stream view. However, by flickr's design, the the only way to organize photostream's sequence (by flickr's design) is to modify upload date. And so happens when there are many photos to organize at the same time, you need a batch tool to completes it.
Yes, if the design take into usage problems as pointed out, we wouldn't have to use this tool.
What is going on is just the normal ebb and flow of feature priority setting. Nothing nefarious. We just have to balance our development time with the features that we think best serve the most people, as best we can.
The old organizr loading problem has been fixed. Sorry about that, it was a result of some unrelated changes I made yesterday.
I had this problem more than 10 days ago(see reported date 10 july). and thanks for fixing it.
I still think 13 months is a long time to implement a feature that was promised to be integrated (and used to exist and have a nescessity).
It also seems like you would rather spent your precious development time to correct the old organizr (which won't serve most people) rather than implementing it on to the new one, which would take about the same amount of effort?!
Can you please talk to the management about how user can perhaps choose the order of how images are to appear? or at least allow batch upload-date change so we can get on with organizing? thankyou.
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i didn't see your post, strange that your first reply and the second is only a few minutes apart. The program didn't work for more than 10 days before that. It was ignored until i start to ask for attention from another forum topics.
i went to check, the old organizr which is now working. That brings me back to the orginal question, why would Eric spent time to correct old organizr instead of putting such needed feature in the new organizr. when the reason is clear that such feaure is needed.
The reason can be that they don't want people to use this feature, because it may encourage using flickr as a way to 'archive' picture = more diskspace. but hey, that's why some people paid for pro account.. 2 gig transfer a month. Imagine you upload 2 gig without this tool, how do you manage your current photostream? batch change date so it goes in the back of photostream somewhere and make them private so it won't clog up your current photostream.
If people don't use this functioin much, thats fine, but when it is needed, it should be there in a common interface, not in an old program hidden away somewhere. It is rediculous having to load old organizr everytime to do this single feature.
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To be fair to Eric, it's actually very unusual for any software company to fix an issue in a deprecated product such as the Old Organizr. If they don't want you to use the feature they will have plenty of easy reasons to avoid it such as "That feature isn't compatible with the new app, sorry." and so on from there. If they wanted to lie to you they could easily come up with a better lie. :)
The fact that Eric fixed the old Organizr is a sign that Flickr isn't trying to deliberately be obstructive in my opinion. I'd almost bet Eric fixed it "under the table" just to help you out.
I doubt Flickr cares what Pro users use their accounts for or is trying to obstruct the use of the site like you suggest AraiGordai
I certainly don't think they care about disk space. If I want to archive photos I can create a new account and upload the images there in the order I want,
Other possible reasons I can imagine for fixing it in the old but not fixing it in the new Organizr include:
--The way the new Organizr works underneath is different, so while it looks the same, batch operations are different.
--Usage of this feature was so low that there are other high priority features ahead of it in the current product. If only a few users need it, then it gets treated with less importance. That's life.
--Some other blocking issue we don't know about.
EDIT - Or as Eric said, this is a design decision made to help enforce the ordered-by-date-uploaded nature of the photo stream.
It bugs me too for the record, but only on occasion. Say for example if I upload photos from my vacation a year ago there's no way for me to batch push them back in the stream so that they are with the rest. Highly annoying.
But then my stream is not where I should be constructing that time-taken-based view. I need to do that in a Set.
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FWIW- there is a third party web app by a resourceful Flickr member which has one of it's features as bulk upload date changing-
www.h4ppy.com/h4ppier-photos.php
A number of Flickr members use it and are h4ppy with it as well. (As a third party app it's not endorsed by us, but I just wanted to mention it is available to anyone to use.)
@kitliew- the problems you were having have been fixed- it was a bug causing the menus to not work but only on Internet Explorer. Please Organize away again. :-)
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the program to change batch change date on old organizr effects the same datafeild as that of the new. it means that batch operation program is very much the same. it is an interface to link to it.
Usage for this feature, if it was low but needed, and already had exist, why take it out? remember, it is needed to do this function. and they don't need to write a new program. the point is.. it already exist.
and here's the proof that it can and still being done. yes, i do consult programers that develop sites, and they all know how easy it is to apply it to the new interface when the core functionaly already been done.
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Ok for the sake of argument let's withdraw technical problems as a barrier. That still leaves a host of other possibilities, including the ones explicitly given by Eric and Kevin.
araigordai You've already got answers to all your questions and you just keep asking them over and over because you don't like the answers you've got. Which is fine. I'm not saying you should stop.
But unless something else changes somewhere I doubt the answers you have got are going to change so you might be exerting your energy for nothing...
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And thanks Kevin for the link to the other app.
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perhaps you didn't read the earlier posting from other users as well. If the answer has been replied, then there's no need to ask a question.
loupiote (Old Skool) said: "sometimes i upload large batches of private photos (using flickr as a personal archive), but when i do that, they come at the top of my photostream, which is not what i want.
i want all my private photos to be at the bottom of my photostream so that the photostream i see is the same as other see (at least the top part of it), i.e. it's my public photos.
basically i don't want to see my private photos in my photostream, so i send them to the bottom, because there is no other way to hide private photos from my view of the photostream.
if there was a way to hide my private photos from my view of the photostream, i wouldn't need that batch-change-upload-date that much."
how do you do that aside from using batch upload-date-change?
Bagel! said: "If someone else wants their photostream to be in the order the photos were uploaded, that's great. I just want to be able to organize my photos as I see fit on my paid account. So if you could bump up the priority of integrating this feature, which many of us have been waiting for, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!"
how do you do that aside from using batch upload-date-change?
that explains the need for such feature. it is a feature to organize, which is why it was in organizr and should continue to be. once again, it isn't something new. it was a feature taken out, mind you. integrating it to the current organizr makes the most sense, and thats the answer i'd like to hear, and that was an answer promised to be done 13 months ago.
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In all seriousness. You have answers.
13 months ago Eric said:
"It is low priority, but it will happen."
"will" as a verb in English is used to express futurity. That something will happen in the future. It doesn't specify a date or a level of importance.
If there was an explicit deadline by which they promised you the feature, I didn't see it.
I'm not denying there are other users who want it, I've never denied the usefulness of the feature. I've even said I'd use it myself.
I was taking exception in my previous posts to you making up reasons why it hasn't been done other than the reasons that have been stated by Flickr staff. I should have just said that. I apologize.
In all seriousness I hope this change gets done, I'll use it if it does.
I just don't see the point in claiming you have been promised something when no timeline was given, or that Flickr has malicious reasons for not giving you the feature.
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in all seriousness, considered this possibility.
benrobertsabq Have you ever wonder why a feature that already exist, and user have been known to need use it (otherwise why would it exist) was taken out and reluctant to put back in when it doesn't cost an organization that much claimed 'development time' ? Doesn't it make you wonder that it perhaps cost an organization something else.
One of the main reason given for not putting it there is:
We just have to balance our development time with the features
The argument(repeated) is that there's hardly any need of development time because the program is already working, and it is actually simpler to put it on the current organizr that everyone can use it rather than spend development time to FIX the interface error from old one that is hidden away and don't serve mainstream user. When you see this kind of contradictory action, it raises a question.. - it may no longer be about the development time.
Back to the original point, cost factor. As you probably aware, two main issue that effects operation cost of this type of business: time(staff) and asset (hardware, disk space, network bandwidth, etc). balancing this with revenue is how you make profit.
You've claimed that they hardly care about disk space? Are you kidding, staff might not but organization do, particularly in photo or media related site, ask them what's the major asset cost. DATA. more data, more backup, more bandwidth, more management program, etc etc. Multiply by millions of potential user using this feature as a way storage? What happens, increase growth in consumption but no real growth in revenue (payment same, consume more) that's not such a good business model.
It isn't that they don't 'allow' people to put in loads of image as promised.. of course it is allow, but you can discourage such activity through restriction in user interface design. ie: If you do put bunch of fotos in the way the current photostream works, your stream will become almost un-usable to do your normal social activity (imagine 100 backup files in front of your public foto. Your organizr will be fill with rows of pix u don't want to manage.) This simple interface clutter would discourage such activity.
For 13 months i use old organizr, no complaint because i trusted what they say until this recent action to fix old organizr. Had they add it to the new organizr then i would not have brought out this scenario and find proper business reasoning to support it. The longer they delay the better for the business.. as more the mass will not know that they were able to do this, thus will not do potentially 'costly' activity.
Yes, i do IT consultation like many users here, and we all know that there are ways to discourage or encourage type of activity through interface design. I didn't think this kind of action would happen in a big organization like this. And when it does, at least i would expect them to do what was promised. it is after all, a feature that user needs, and we all paid for. do the right thing, put it back in - it doesn't take long.
Obviously, not all user are going to do this, which is why many web host promotes "unlimited storage" can survive, because only a small fraction of user does it like so. Community website usually try to discourage activity that cost money like storage and encourage more social activity, because it put less data on to the system = will cost an organization less while gain 'marketing' value more as 'active' and popular community will lead to more membership. That's a basic business model for many community website.
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the problem with third-party tools is that you need to trust them.
and i don't trust them with my original (private) photos.
they could get access to my (private) photos, download them and do whatever they want. i don't like this idea.
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how can you batch-change-upload-date with the old organizer?
i can't see this feature in the batch commands of the old organizer.
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I'm so confused ... I used the old organizer and it changed the order of my main photo stream by date - which is how I want it. How do I get it to transfer to my actual site? I've also tried to change the each individual photo - clicking the upload date. But it doesn't change the order.....
help me out here - is it possible or not?
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AraiGordai - Ok. I never questioned whether you or anyone else had an understanding of website development, hardware outlay costs or any sort of business model.
Apparently we both have our beliefs as to the answer for why the current Organizr issue exists, and I will leave it at that.
I won't argue with you any more. I apologize if I have offended you, that certainly wasn't my intention, although I do like to argue more than is good for me sometimes. The Help forum probably isn't the place for that in any case.
I hope Flickr fixes it.
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how can you batch-change-upload-date with the old organizer?
It's one of the "set" batch commands. So if you put all your photos you want to move back into a set, then double click the set, and choose batch dates. You'll get a screen like shown above in this thread. Tick the "Change Date Posted" box and put in the date you want to move them to.
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oh, ok, so to do that i must place the photos in a set, first. thanks, good to know that the option exists, even though it's a bit convoluted.
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loupiote (Old Skool) correct, say you have bunch of fotos you want to put away in the back, you upload in a set and make them all private. then you go to old organizr and press change date of that set.
Right now the old organizr don't work again. the sets won't show up.. it worked for a moment yesterday, but no longer does.
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the old organizr works for me, i can see my sets and they load. so maybe it's a problem on your side.
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Hi lou, all my sets loads fine in the new organizr, but some of them (new one) will not load up on the old organizr with firefox. Maybe a bug with this browser, cuz i have 120sets and it would just freez the organizr.
Right now i tried to switch to IE, now the old organizr set loads up. What browser do you use, may i know?
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i use both browsers, but i tested the old organizer only with IE and my set loaded fine.
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@ Kevin: Thanks for the quick fix. Now I seem to have another new problem. I can't seem to press the SAVE button in any of the Organize page. I tried to change the upload time or trying to type other things and it doesn't work. The only thing I can press is CANCEL button. Could you pls fix that. Thx!
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i should be thankful that there's alternative software that i should allow to it have full access into my hahoo account ?
"By authorizing this link, you'll allow the h4ppier photos service to provide:
* Access to your photos (including private photos)
* Editing of your photo information via h4ppier photos
* Uploads to your Flickr account via h4ppier photos
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i think not, private photos means private.
it amazes me that a staff would suggest to use a third party software (which you say flickr do not endorse) -- to do the functionality that WAS and should continue to be on the organizr. The feature that was said to be put back a year ago and never did with the excuse of development time and piority, yet willing to spend time fix the old organizr(which most people will not get to use) rather than putting that old eature backin into the new organizr. at least be truthful about the thing you say, / do, honor what was promosed and deliver them. that's how you gain / loose trust. honesty.
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Old Organizer stopped working for me a few weeks ago. It simply will not load my first page of photo's. Or, maybe it will load one photo; half hour later, five. (Before, using Firefox or IE, OO loaded lickety split.) This is something I depended on daily to organize my stream. Going photo-to-photo is agony, so time consuming, infuriating. I have a pro account and have paid for the pro accounts of several friends. Having my first couple pages in the order I want is important to me. It's just important, O.K.? Insisting that streams stay in order of upload--dates that actually signify nothing--is just a sourceless policy, not one indicated by logic.
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"i think not, private photos means private."
In this case, it's most likely asking for the permission because many of the images that you want to manipulate information may be set to private- if it couldn't access them, the application couldn't do it's job.
"staff would suggest to use a third party software"
AraiGordai- there are a vast number of 3rd party applications that provide functionality that are not present in all the tools that we have on our site or software. That is why we have an open API and there are some fantastic developers out there who do truly amazing things with them- Dopiaza's Set Manager, FD's FlickrToys, the 1001 uploadr for OS X- the list of amazing software goes on and on. We regularly suggest other applications that do different things to inform people that they do exist. Many of these ask for the same permissions to do the work they do. I say we don't endorse, because we don't provide support for them- but it's there if you like.
kitliew- sorry, I'm not having problems in IE using the save button on various things I've tried in Organizr, can you tell me specifically which tasks in Organzir the save button is not working on?
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i like the idea of having third-party applications.
but unfortunately, when you have private photos that you want to keep 100% safe and protected from any unauthorized access and use (e.g. original versions of your photos), giving access permissions to un-trusted third-part tools is not an reasonnable option.
as long as i did not used flickr to archive my some of my original photos, i had no problem using third-party tools, because what those tools could access was basically what anyone could access through my photostream. not the case anymore.
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Dear Kevin,
there are a vast number of 3rd party applications that provide functionality that are not present in all the tools that we have on our site or software.
The point was the tool we are talking about had existed(and still does) in the old organizr, and it was taken out from user access in the current organizr. It was promised to put back in 13 months ago, and up until now, it still has not.
This is not the same case as other API.
My concern is the same with lou, i dont' want third party to access all my private file. Your team has already developed this tool, please put it back in the current organizr. thank you, much appreciated.
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please put it back in the current organizr. thank you, much appreciated.
yes, and it would be nice if it could apply to any batch, not just sets...
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@Kevin : The SAVE button in Batch Orginze > Edit Photos > Tittle, Tags and Desciption is not working at all. Could Flickr just retain back the old Batch Organize where everybody will be much happier and lesser complain. I will be very glad to pay for the Pro Flickr account for the older version than this newer version eventhough it's not a very smart program where now a days you can just drag pictures and arrange the way you want it to be instead of changing the upload time one by one. This latest Batch version just doesn't work for me and the rest of the world.
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I can only imagine the lack of batch edit feature will become more of an issue for yahoo.photos users who just migrated here.
Yahoo photos users uses their account for storing and sharing photos. - they don't have this photostream thing. The concept of public photostream in flickr when mixing with archiving private photos will be problematic without the mentioned batch tool. I'm that kind of "mix" user and i totally rely on batch date modify feature.
suddenly the issue has been given a silence treatment by the staff. It is a simple request, to put back what was taken away.
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I don't see why this is such a big issue for you guys Flickr. Aren't you ment to be keeping your users happy? Please? Most of the code would be there from the previous uploader, so it wouldn't be too hard to re-insert it.
I'm currently on a 1 year round the world trip and obviously want my photos to be shown chronologically. Due to circumstances I could not avoid, I've had to upload a few sets of photos out of order, which means they don't show up in date order. This is a pain for me and the hundreds of people that are viewing my blog.
I'd really appreciate it if the situation could be fixed.
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Err, just found this thread: www.flickr.com/help/forum/33491/?search=organize+date+taken dunno if anyone has used this H4ppier Photos, but I was able to use it to batch change the upload dates for my photos. (http://www.h4ppy.com/h4ppier-photos.php)
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gangrenetriplets yes, the feature to ororder the picture in batch used to exist in the old organizr not the uploadr.
H4ppier Photos would be the third party software that Kevin(flickr staff) said we can use but not endorsed by flickr. (see above post and response)
i don't want to use that as it involves letting external software reads and writes all my private photos.
This is a program that should be inside the organizr itself as its function is to MOVE and reorder the sequence of photostream.
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By the way, your argument about wanting private only photos to be at the bottom of the stream can be made stronger. I am in the process of uploading thousands of pictures I took from 2001->2006 (when I got my flickr account). I feel that I have grown quite a lot as a photographer and these earlier photos are more just "snapshots". I would prefer my better work be at the top of the stream.
A nifty idea would be to have an option in account setting as to whether you want your stream in upload, reverse upload, taken or reverse taken order.
Reverse taken order would simply put your most recently taken photos at the top of the stream based on the exif data - I think many people would prefer this.
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Just showing my support. I also really would like the option to use this feature... I'm tired of sending people to my flickr home page and having them look at my photos backwards. All I want to do is organize my photostream chronologically, BUT so that it is chronological in the order in which my photos were taken by set (trip)... not the backwards order that flickr uploadr insists on. In the meantime I guess h4ppier photos will do.
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> not the backwards order that flickr uploadr insists on.
well, it seems logical, when people who are coming back to my flickr photostream, to show them my latest photos, rather than always the old ones from 3 years ago. so what you call "backward order" makes sense, to display the most recent photos of someone.
and when people come for the first time, the best way they have to see samples of my work is to go to my Sets page.
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Maybe I am mis-reading some of the concerns, but you can easily change the order of your photos in SETS. You can have them show up either in the order they were uploaded or the date they were taken.
However, I keep having the same problem over and over with the Uploader -- it uploads my pictures WAY out of order. It doesn't make any sense the way it sends them to Flickr. Which is a problem for big batches, because then I sometimes have to delete and upload again one at a time to put them in proper sequence. Is that a known issue? Or is there a solution?
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Have tried all your suggestions but I still can't change the uploaded dates of my pics (if this really is the only way I can change the order my images appear on my stream!)
I have tried both the new organizer and the old one, but with no success...can anybody help?
I do think we should be able to decide what pics go first on our stream though...
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I still want to batch edit the upload date too... That third party cr4ppy page is not working at all. If you have the feature, than cut the cr4p and add it guys! Pleaeaease...
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I am editing the posted date of my pictures...individually! I don't think we should go through this process, really....
In this way we really are cheating, changing legitimate info because is the only way we can customise our photostream.
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This is probably a very stupid question, but all I can find is people telling they are editing the posted dates individually.. but how do you do this? I've been reading through FAQs, read the forum questions and answers, etc etc, tried everything that I could find, but I don't manage to find where you can change the upload date.. even if you have to do it manually one by one..? Please help?
EDIT: 7 mins later... of course I finally found it just after posting this, sorry!
Anyways, 'd love to have the option to choose if my photostream will be organised by the upload date or the shooting date.. Shooting date would make so much more sense.
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Arco-Iris Take a look at this. This is a convenient way to see when photos were taken.
But suppose you wanted to share some more photos from months ago. Where would it be be more convenient for your friends to find these new to them photos - at the top of your photostream or buried back on the date they were taken?
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well I have a pro account and I am shopping NOW for another site that will offer the flexibility to set easily whatever pic we choose on the first page!
The design that show on the first page the most recent posted pics is cataclismically stupid in my opinion and at the very least not fulfilling my need.. we should have a way to choose our best pics on the first page and it should be an easy way....
THE CURRENT DESIGN IS NOT USER FRIENDLY
If enough people here start doing the same thing this will attract SERIOUS attention from the staff.
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